Y chromosome and mtDNA from Louis XVI found?

[Grynda]

Abstract
A text on a pyrographically decorated gourd dated to 1793 explains that it contains a handkerchief dipped with the blood of Louis XVI, king of France, after his execution. Biochemical analyses confirmed that the material contained within the gourd was blood. The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) hypervariable region 1 (HVR1) and 2 (HVR2), the Y-chromosome STR profile, some autosomal STR markers and a SNP in HERC2 gene associated to blue eyes, were retrieved, and some results independently replicated in two different laboratories. The uncommon mtDNA sequence retrieved can be attributed to a N1b haplotype, while the novel Y-chromosome haplotype belongs to haplogroup G2a. The HERC2 gene showed that the subject analyzed was a heterozygote, which is compatible with a blue-eyed person, as king Louis XVI was. To confirm the identity of the subject, an analysis of the dried heart of his son, Louis XVII, could be undertaken.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/10/y-chromosome-and-mtdna-of-louis-xvi-of.html

Well to prove if it's really Louis XVI:s blood, let's hope that Louis XVII then really was his biological son and not the son of a Swedish nobleman as rumour had it.

[Karhunkynsi]

Cool. King of France turns out as Avar (or perhaps Hun, or Khazar), Turko-Iranian steppe nomad ;)

[Haplogroup G2a3b1]

Cool. King of France turns out as Avar (or perhaps Hun, or Khazar), Turko-Iranian steppe nomad ;)

Luis XVI is G2a3b1a as me that haplogroup came in Central Europe during the Indo European expansion nothing to do with the Turko Iranian Avar etc ... this a Germanic marker of the first rulers among the Frankish tribes Avars Huns are mostly R1b1 or J G2a3b1 in Caucasian from Caucasus the Dutch people are G2a3b1 they are not Turkish

[Karhunkynsi]

Luis XVI is G2a3b1a as me


How did you work that out ? Article only speaks about G2a.



that haplogroup came in Central Europe during the Indo European expansion nothing to do with the Turko Iranian Avar etc


I dont believe you.

[El Andullero]

Well to prove if it's really Louis XVI:s blood, let's hope that Louis XVII then really was his biological son and not the son of a Swedish nobleman as rumour had it.

The cases of infidelity against the Bourbon crowned heads go from way back, to the times of Henry IV and his italian harlot of a wife, Marie de Medici. There are some historians that doubt Louis XIII being the son of Henry IV, and instead, claim him being the son of Henry's enemy, the duke of Epernon.

[Semitic Duwa]

I dont believe you.

I do.

[Karhunkynsi]

I do.

Why ?

[Semitic Duwa]

Why ?

Because Ossetians are P15+ and test positive for downstream clades.

[Karhunkynsi]

Because Ossetians are P15+ and test positive for downstream clades.

Avars came from thereabouts, besides Ossetians are Iranians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_languages).

[Semitic Duwa]

Avars came from thereabouts, besides Ossetians are Iranians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_languages).

So?
It just strengthens my point.

[Karhunkynsi]

So?
It just strengthens my point.

This point ?
"that haplogroup came in Central Europe during the Indo European expansion nothing to do with the Turko Iranian Avar etc "

Btw; Hg G2a was tested from early medieval period burials at Bavaria (Ergolding) few years back. There was also Avar-type weapons at the graves.

Anyhow, G2a* is propably too broad and more specific subclade is needed to say anything certain.

Not that the following pic has nothing to do with Louis but since I'm a big fan of deformed female cranium I'll add few from Bavaria, from Frankish graveyard of Altenerding ;)

[Semitic Duwa]

This point ?
"that haplogroup came in Central Europe during the Indo European expansion nothing to do with the Turko Iranian Avar etc "

Only the Indo-European part of the story, I do not discount the Avar and Iranic related theories.


Btw; Hg G2a was tested from early medieval period burials at Bavaria (Ergolding) few years back. There was also Avar-type weapons at the graves.

I know... (http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/06/y-chromosomes-from-7th-c-ergolding.html)
Some also tested positive for M269 but you aren't as quick to shove it up as Avar:evilgrin:


Anyhow, G2a* is propably too broad and more specific subclade is needed to say anything certain.

P16 is the main clade amongst Ossetians, but I do agree that we need to dig downstream if we want to be able to suppose anything which seems reliable to some extent.


Not that the following pic has nothing to do with Louis but since I'm a big fan of deformed female cranium I'll add few from Bavaria, from Frankish graveyard of Altenerding ;)

Don't worry, be happy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-rJ-6hBfSo);)