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aeon
2009-12-08, 09:04
Abstract
A total of 17 Y-specific STR loci were studied in 12 districts of the European part of Russia aiming to ascertain the amount of substructure required for the construction of a representative regional database. All groups exhibited high haplotype diversities but low inter-population variance as measured by an analysis of molecular variance. However, when Western Russia is taken as a whole, the genetic distances to the neighbouring populations were significant. Whereas gradual change in the Y chromosome pool exists between Russia and the Slavic-speaking populations to the West, remarkable discontinuities were observed with neighbouring populations in the East, North and South.

A total of 545 unrelated males from 12 Western Russian populations previously typed for Y-chromosome single nucleotide polymorphism markers were analysed for 17 Y-STR loci evaluated in forensic routine diagnostics. The sampling was carried out in the administrative centers of the following districts (oblasts): Smolenskaja (Smo, n = 43), Brianskaja (Bri, 43), Ivanovskaja (Iva, 40), Lipezkaja (Lip, 47), Penzenskaja (Pen, 81), Ryazanskaja (Rya, 36), Orlovskaja (Orl, 42), Tverskaja (Tve, 43), Vologodskaja (Vol, 40), Tambovskaja (Tam, 48), Archangelskaja (Arch, 42) and Nowgorodskaja (Now, 40).

The eight most frequent haplotypes occurring 34 times in this sample are closely related and belong (with the exception of one haplotype belonging to hg N3-Tat) to haplogroup R1a1-M17. This typical Eastern European haplogroup is the most frequent in all analysed populations with frequencies ranging between 0.31 and 0.56, followed by hg I-M170 (0.09–0.31) and N3-Tat (0.06–0.29).

No genetic substructure was found among the Russian populations. All pairwise comparisons were non-significant (p > 0.05). In contrast, significant variation between populations was observed in the comparison of Western Russia, treated as one homogeneous metapopulation, with neighbouring groups. Because only reduced haplotype formats were available for such reference populations, we performed AMOVA based on 545 minimal 9-locus haplotypes from Western Russia with the previously published 5,366 haplotypes from 11 neighbouring regions (in clockwise direction: Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Siberia and the Caucasus region). All pairwise Φst comparisons between Russia and these neighbours (with the exception of Russia vs. Belarus) were significant with values ranging between 0.0089 (Russia vs. Poland) and 0.3688 (Russia vs. eight Altaic- and Uralic-speaking groups from Siberia). MDS plot based on pairwise Φst values shows a closely related core group consisting of Slavic-speaking populations (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Poland) with an elevated distance to Baltic populations and a large span to linguistically different groups from Estonia, Finland, Siberia and the Caucasus. From these analyses, we conclude that autochthonous Russian-speaking populations residing for centuries in the European part of Russia can be pooled to form a representative regional reference database for assessment of Y chromosomal matches in forensic analyses. However, on a level of quite low but significant Φst values, Western Russian populations can be grouped together with a much larger metapopulation defined within the forensic YHRD. This genetically distinct “Eastern European” metapopulation (n = 5,993, YHRD release 22 from 2007-08-10) comprises 56 Balto-Slavic-speaking populations from Eastern Europe.

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Evi
2009-12-08, 11:20
"Siberia" means "Yakuts" or what?

aeon
2009-12-08, 11:35
I believe Siberia means the geographical area usually called Siberia.

Wojewoda
2009-12-08, 11:40
Does it mean that you get Latvian and Lithuanian by mixing a Pole with 1/2 of a Fiinn, you get Belarussian and Ukrainian by mixing a Pole with 1/2 of a Caucasian, and you get Russian by mixing a Pole with 1/4 of a Finn and 1/4 of a Caucasian? ;)

Evi
2009-12-08, 12:03
I believe Siberia means the geographical area usually called Siberia.
And there is no different ethnic groups or they all are so closely related, that there is sense to call them under one name "Siberians"? I want to see at least one, single scientific study, which would focus entirely on Siberian ethnicities, from Ural mountains to Pacific ocean coasts, and prove (?) that they are as closely related each to other as different European ethnicities. If I will see such proof, I will not question anymore the use of such term as "Siberian". But until that, I am against for obvious reasons.

As you can see, science in Russia is so backwards, that it can't make such kind of studies. And I don't know when I will have the possibility to see my relatives in Siberia testing their genetic background, it's just impossible in such a backward area. Sorry, but it's truth. They can't even send their saliva samples to 23andMe, because Russia is not among shipping countries etc.

Motörhead Remember Me
2009-12-08, 13:20
This study does not tell us much more than what we already knew about western Russia.

One can assume that the ”Uralic/Altaic Siberian” peoples here means Mordvinians, Komi, Udmurts e.t.c all high on N1c. The relative closeness between Finland and the Siberian group from an Y-STR perspective is only natural and
1. reflects the migration of N1c from the Baltic peoples to Baltic Finnish and from there to the Urals and beyond.
2. the low level of R1a in Finland, which pushes them away from “slavics” and closer to the ethnic Siberian peoples.

aeon
2009-12-08, 14:57
This study does not tell us much more than what we already knew about western Russia.

One can assume that the ”Uralic/Altaic Siberian” peoples here means Mordvinians, Komi, Udmurts e.t.c all high on N1c. The relative closeness between Finland and the Siberian group from an Y-STR perspective is only natural and
1. reflects the migration of N1c from the Baltic peoples to Baltic Finnish and from there to the Urals and beyond.
2. the low level of R1a in Finland, which pushes them away from “slavics” and closer to the ethnic Siberian peoples.

I wonder, what makes you put Slavics in quotes?

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Does it mean that you get Latvian and Lithuanian by mixing a Pole with 1/2 of a Fiinn, you get Belarussian and Ukrainian by mixing a Pole with 1/2 of a Caucasian, and you get Russian by mixing a Pole with 1/4 of a Finn and 1/4 of a Caucasian? ;)

Right, and if you mix a Russian with a nonentity you get a Pole. :evilgrin:

J/k like yourself.

Motörhead Remember Me
2009-12-09, 07:05
I wonder, what makes you put Slavics in quotes

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Good question. I'm beginning to wonder myself why I associate R1a with slavic populations.:D It could as well be associated with Germanic, Baltic, Singhalese and Khoton...

aeon
2009-12-09, 10:57
Good question. I'm beginning to wonder myself why I associate R1a with slavic populations.:D It could as well be associated with Germanic, Baltic, Singhalese and Khoton...

Do you mean that as a genetic entity Germanics are more valid than Slavics?

Motörhead Remember Me
2010-01-18, 10:17
No it's not what I mean.

Aino
2010-01-18, 11:00
"Siberia" means "Yakuts" or what?


One can assume that the ”Uralic/Altaic Siberian” peoples here means Mordvinians, Komi, Udmurts e.t.c

'Siberia' and 'Altaic- and Uralic-speaking groups from Siberia' refer to Yakuts, Evenks, and Evens.

It is explained in the study, which aeon even provided a link for, so there is no need to throw a tantrum or assume anything.


Subsequently, these populations were treated as one metapopulation and the minimal haplotypes (which includes the nine loci: DYS19, DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390, DYS391, DYS392, DYS393, DYS385ab) were compared to published data from nine neighbouring regions, namely 271 minimal haplotypes from Belarus [9], 502 from the Caucasus [10], 133 from Estonia, 145 from Latvia and 157 from Lithuania [11], 399 samples from Finland [12], 3,021 from Poland [13–15], 370 from Siberia [16, 17] and 368 from Ukraine [18], with the statistical significance determined by a permutation test (10,000 replicates; Table 2).


16. Pakendorf B, Novgorodov IN, Osakovskij VL, Danilova AP, Protodjakonov AP, Stoneking M (2006) Investigating the effects of prehistoric migrations in Siberia: genetic variation and the origins of Yakuts. Hum Genet 120(3):334–353 [PubMed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16845541)]
17. Pakendorf B, Novgorodov IN, Osakovskij VL, Stoneking M (2007) Mating patterns amongst Siberian reindeer herders: inferences from mtDNA and Y-chromosomal analyses. Am J Phys Anthropol 133:1013–1027 [PubMed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17492671)]

Motörhead Remember Me
2010-01-18, 11:12
The relative closeness between Finland and the Siberian group from an Y-STR perspective is only natural and
1. reflects the migration of N1c from the Baltic peoples to Baltic Finnish and from there to the Urals and beyond.
2. the low level of R1a in Finland, which pushes them away from “slavics” and closer to the ethnic Siberian peoples.

What about this assumption. Right or not?