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Let's share stories of our ancestors. Maybe the stories you now know were passed down from one generation to another, or maybe you have uncovered them through research. Post them here if you want to share them.
Here is one of my stories.
"Then they took me to the Syväri river. They started spanking me. For one night and one day I had to lie at the feet of my enemy and be subjected to a cruel treatment: a robe around my neck, my hands tied behind my back and my legs drawn behind my back with the same robe. My chest and stomach received such injuries that they undoubtedly prepared me for the grave. They kicked me with the iron soles of their shoes and hit me in the head with tatar whips so that my scalp cracked in several places. The pus that ran from these wounds during the five weeks was about to rot my neck and shoulders. This is what I, a poor man, had to endure for twelve weeks, while I was being taken from one castle to another on the shores of Lake Ladoga until we reached the city of Saint Petersburg."
This is what my ancestor Georgius Petri Wallius (Yrjänä Pietarinpoika) wrote to the Bishop's Council in 1722, after the Great Wrath. The enemy were the Russians, who had captured him and taken him with them to Russia.
Yrjänä Pietarinpoika was born in 1665 in a vicarage in Kitee in North Karelia, where his grandfather, also named Georgius Petri Wallius, was the vicar. Georgius Petri senior was the first Lutheran vicar of the parish. After Georgius Petri senior's death in 1672, his son, young Georgius's father, Pietari Yrjänänpoika (Petrus Jöransson), continued to live in the vicarage as a farmer on the plea that his father had paid for the construction of the buildings. This caused some friction between Pietari Yrjänänpoika and his father's successor Michael Aeschilli Hyfvitius (Pietari's brother-in-law) and another priest in the parish, Kustaa Sinkko. The disagreements went so far that Kustaa Sinkko physically assaulted the children of the Wallius family, including the then 16-year old Yrjänä Pietarinpoika. The assault that took place in 1681 is the first mention of Yrjänä Pietarinpoika. Kustaa Sinkko was later declared insane.
Six years later, in 1687, Yrjänä Pietarinpoika Wallius graduated from the gymnasium of Turku and enrolled in the Royal Academy of Turku. However, that same year the vicar of the parish of Pielisjärvi, Lauri Laurinpoika Hallitius (Laurentius Lauri) invited him to Pielisjärvi to be a private tutor for his children.
A year after that Yrjänä Pietarinpoika is mentioned as the school master of the Brahea Paedagogium, a school for children in the market town of Lieksa in Pielisjärvi. The Paedagogium had 10 to 30 pupils, mostly sons of the town's burghers and officials. The children were taught reading, writing, arithmetic, and religion. They were probably also taught Swedish, because it was the official language used not only in administration but also in business. Wallius is mentioned to have been a learned and skilful school master.
Hallitius died in 1688. Two years after the death of Hallitius, Wallius married his daughter Clara Hallitius-Bergman, and then in 1702, Hallitius's successor Pietari Herkepaeus appointed Wallius his assistant priest. The Brahea paedagogium was shut down at about the same time. A major cause for shutting the school down was probably lack of funding. This was caused by the famine of 1696-1697, which wiped out about a third of the population of Finland, and the Greath Wrath.
The Great Wrath brought the Russians to Pielisjärvi. Wallius was among the first to welcome Russians to the parish. This might have been because he was constantly having disputes with Simon Affleck, who paid rent to the Swedish crown for the right to collect taxes in the area and who was ruthless in his collection endeavours. However, the Russians imprisoned Wallius and took him with them to Russia. In 1717, when the Russians returned, they appointed Wallius vicar of the Pielisjärvi parish, and Wallius moved to live in the vicarage.
After the Great Wrath, Simon Affleck, the ruthless tax collector, accused Wallius of treason and demanded that he leave the vicarage because the Consistory had not appointed him. He also accused Wallius of conspiracy against the King of Sweden because Wallius had suggested that his parishioners pledge an oath of obedience to the Russians. Affleck pointed out that Wallius had left Pielisjärvi and joined the Russians.
Wallius replied that he had not joined the Russians voluntarily, but that he had been imprisoned. In the letter that he sent to the bishop's council, Wallius told that the Russians had intended to behead him three times with three other prisoners. The other three had indeed been killed in a violent manner while he was present. Wallius was spared but treated cruelly.
Wallius asked the Bishop's Council to confirm his vicarage, but he died soon after his request and never got confirmation for it.
Wallius had 14 children and at least 60 grandchildren. He is my ancestor through at least three different genealogical lines.
[/URL]"Pierre Landry, the son of Pierre (Pedro) Landry Sr and Marie Joseph (Maria Josef) Hebert. His grandparents were transported to England from Acadia in 1756 and after the treaty of 1763, were "re-patriated" to France. His parents were married approximately five years later in St. Servan, France.
See: Acadians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadians (http://books.google.com/books?id=Wg8_FJFX25UC&pg=PA67&dq=%22Pierre+Joseph+Landry%22&hl=en&ei=nDrsTNGLO4KB8gbO3aS2AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22Pierre%20Joseph%20Landry%22&f=false)
Born in France in 1770, Pierre Joseph, along with his parents, are placed at St. Malo, France, where evidence is found on page 73 of the publication "Acadians in France" listed "Pierre Landry, 31, carpenter of St. Malo died in 1772, Marie Josephe Hebert, 31, his wife, and Pierre Joseph Landry, 2, their son."
Pierre Joseph arrived in Louisiana aboard the ship LaBerge on August 15, 1785, with his widowed mother and maternal grandfather as recorded in "The Crews and Passenger Registration Lists of the Seven Acadian Expeditions of 1785" The LaBerge's registration journal had them listed as "Widow Hebert (should have been listed as the Widow Landry, her maiden name was Hebert), 57, and her son Pierre Joseph Landry, 17, day laborer."
He settled in St. Gabriel, received a land grant on the west bank of the Mississippi River and became a successful sugar farmer or planter. He married at St. Gabriel on June 30, 1790, Scholastique Breaux, daughter of Joseph Breaux and Marie Josephe Landry. After the death of Scholastique, Pierre remarried several times.
Pierre Joseph was a man with many interests. He was militarily inclined and became a member of Meriam's Militia, which was organized to protect the early settlers. By 1810, he was a first lieutenant. In the War of 1812, he organized his own company of infantry, and as part of Meriam's Militia---the 8th Regiment (and as Captain Landry) he led his men for the defense of the lower coast and New Orleans.
Late in his life, Pierre Joseph Landry was stricken with Tuberculosis of the bone (the knee) and was confined to a wheel chair.
He began woodcarving and carved little figures from beech and magnolia with his pocket knife. Pierre became an accomplished wood carver. One of his most ambitious pieces was the "Wheel of Life", [see Cabildo, New Orleans: [url]http://lsm.crt.state.la.us/cabildo/cab8.htm which can be found on exhibit in the Cabildo. The carving consists of the seven ages of man, from the cradle through old age and finally to the grave. He also carved a mausoleum with the bowed figures of two mourners. He also carved a bust of himself. :) The only likeness of Pierre Landry in existence. This collection of wood carvings were scattered amongst his descendants, until Luke Valcour Landry, brought them all together into one collection and placed them in the safekeeping of the Louisiana State Museum, along with the note books and the military manuel, as a lasting memento of a distinguished citizen of long ago. In recognition of his works, a collection of his works is on display in both the Cabildo and the Presbetyre in New Orleans.
He died at Bayou Goula, Louisiana, and was buried in March, 1843. On his tombstone at St. Gabriel church cemetery, the epitaph reads "A good Republican, who is missed by his wife and nine children whose good morals were necessary""
Reference: http://www.landrystuff.com/pierre_j_landry.htm
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Early American woodcarving:
http://books.google.com/books?id=Wg8_FJFX25UC&pg=PA67&dq=%22Pierre+Joseph+Landry%22&hl=en&ei=nDrsTNGLO4KB8gbO3aS2AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22Pierre%20Joseph%20Landry%22&f=false
One more brief anecdote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Davis
Jimmie Davis, Gov. of Louisiana, and singer of "You are My Sunshine", was a good friend of my great uncle, Lamar T. Loe.
Song Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Are_My_Sunshine
Youtube music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkNbMZhEGEw
Google books:
http://books.google.com/books?id=vpX4c3bjwvYC&pg=PA87&dq=Lamar+Loe+Jimmie+Davis&hl=en&ei=k_DzTICuPIWClAfBzrWaDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Great-uncle; (great-grandfather's brother-in-law):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Tunner
They were roommates at West Point in 1928.
How I got my last name was that a soldier fought bravely in a battle for a Danish king. He made a hasty move and got nobled for it. This is about 500 years ago. So that is all that is left. Fame and fortune but it do not mean much today.
Day Tripper
2010-12-11, 11:56
Great great great great great grandpa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mohr
Joseph Mohr, sometimes spelt Josef (December 11, 1792 – December 4, 1848) was an Austrian priest and composer, who wrote the words to the Christmas carol "Silent Night".
Josef Franz Mohr was born in Salzburg on December 11, 1792, to an unmarried embroiderer, Anna Schoiberin, and a mercenary soldier, Franz Mohr who deserted the army and Joseph's mother before the birth.
As his musical talent was not recognized, he found a sponsor to set him upon the path to higher education. As an illegitimate child he needed the Pope's special permission to study for the priesthood and was ordained a priest in 1815. Rev. Mohr was sent to a pilgrim church in the remote Alpine village of Mariapfarr, where in 1816 he wrote a six-stanza poem that was to become the world's most popular carol. Mohr was moved to Oberndorf in 1817 to stay there for two years. When Franz Gruber agreed to compose a in churches in the Salzburg Diocese and folk singers from the Ziller Valley were taking the song on tours around Europe.
Wow, just realized it's his 218th birthday today. ;)
cadwallon
2010-12-12, 18:06
To begin I will type here a copy of an excerpt from “Central Pennsylvania History” which pertains to my great great great grandfather Andrew Liddle b. 1820 County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, the lineage goes deeper into Armagh and judging by the surname there's a more distant Scottish root/origin:
“Andrew Liddle is one of the stalwart and substantial citizens of Dandy Township, Clearfield County, who are of alien birth, but who have, by their own unaided exertions, raised themselves from a state of comparative poverty, in which they came to this country, to their present prosperous condition. Since coming to the country our subject has successfully engaged in general farming, and is today one of the earliest substantial and highly respected citizens of his community.
Mr. Liddle was born in Ireland, in 1820, a son of James and Elizabeth (Crawford) Liddle, who made their home near Castle Derg, in County Tyrone, where the father engaged in agricultural pursuit until his death in 1832. The mother also died on the Emerald Isle when our subject was about seventeen years of age. At thirteen he and his brother John took passage on the brig “John and Mary” bound for the West Indies, but two weeks after leaving Liverpool the vessel was overwhelmed by a storm and driven into the Bay of Biscay. After returning to Liverpool for repairs they again started on their journey, reaching their destination after a voyage of nine weeks. They spent a year in the West Indies, during which time the colored people on the island were liberated by the English government.
On his return to Ireland Mr. Liddle lay ill at Liverpool for two weeks with fever and ague, and as his parents were dead, he then made his home with his brother James until large enough to begin the battle of life for himself. For some time he worked for farmers in his native land, but ultimately decided to try his fortune in America. On April 15, 1848, he arrived in Philadelphia and from there went to Wilmington, Delaware, where for two years worked for Dr. Gibbons, as a gardener, and for the same length of time was with Mr. Adams. Coming to Brandy Township, Clearfield County he then purchased fifty acres of partially improved land of Andy Wilson.
While in Delaware, Mr. Liddle became acquainted with Miss Mary J. Fleming, a native of County Donegal, Ireland, who had come to America previous to our subject’s arrival. In the capacity of cook, she accompanied the family of Dr. Vanduson to Pittsburgh, and after Mr. Liddle had erected a house upon his new farm in Brandy Township, he went to that city, where April 9, 1853, they were made man and wife. He at once took his bride to his new home, and together they labored, earnestly and persistently, until they now enjoy a handsome competence. In 1863 their first little home was replaced by a commodious two story frame residence, and a good barn has also been erected. To the original tract Mr. Liddle added 200 acres, known as the E. Long Farm, and in 1876 he bought 100 acres of John Dubois, which adjoins his place on the northeast. Upon the latter tract his son James now resides.
Mr. and Mrs. Liddle have reared a family of eleven children namely: (1) Fannie J. born February 2, 1854, died in May 1855. (2) James A. born January 30, 1855 grown to manhood on the home farm and married Mary Nelson of Brandy township by whom he had ten children --- Charles, Andrew, James, Eugene, Grover, Hulda, William, Robert, Anna, and Emogene, all at home. (3) William H., born April 2, 1856 received a good education in the schools of Brady Township, and subsequently became a successful teacher. In 1882 he entered the Commercial Business College of Lebanon, Ohio where he graduated the following year. He married Josephine March, of New York, and located upon his father’s farm, where his wife died in 1888, leaving three children – Celia, John, who died in 1895, and Josephine. (4)John T., born July 1857 and died in 1858. (5) John T. (the second of the name) was born May 28, 1859 and after being well educated was appointed principal of the high school of Dubois; he was a young man of great promise; he died June 3, 1882. (6) Fannie A. born June 3, 1860 married Peter May of Canada who is now civil engineer for Rochester and Pittsburgh Coal Co. They reside in Stanley, Clearfield County, and have one daughter Blanche now attending school. (7) Eliza Jane, born July 28, 1861, attended the Brady Schools, but completed her education in the State Normal of Edinboro. She then followed the profession of teaching for several of terms, but in 1883 gave her hand in marriage to William Porter of Clearfield, a son of Robert Porter of Lawrence Township, Clearfield County. Her husband is one of the leading lumbermen of the County, and they reside in Clearfield. Their children are Robert, Mary, Ruth, Marguerite, Elizabeth, Frederick, Sarah, and Frances, all at home. (8) Mary E., born September 20, 1862, died August 23, 1864. (9) Andrew J., born August 2, 1865, died of diphtheria July 29, 1875. (10) Edwin M. born February 27, 1867, grew to manhood upon the home farm, and acquired a good common-school education. He now resides upon a part of the old homestead. In 1888 he married Jennie Keil of West liberty, Clearfield County, and they have four children; May, Frederick, Hazel, and Edwin – all at home. (11) Samuel C. born August 14, 1868 completed his education in the Leonard High School of Clearfield County and is now successfully conducting the home farm for his father.
Mr. Liddle is now the owner of 350 acres of the best farming land in Brady Township, but he is a man to whom the most envious can scarcely begrudge success, so well has he earned it, and so admirably does he use it. Both he and his wife are faithful members of the Episcopal Church of Dubois, are kind, unaffected and approachable and are always ready to aid and relieve suffering and distress. They are worthy examples of the true type of loyal Irish-American citizens, and have the high regard of a wide circle of friends and acquaintances. Mr. Liddle is a Democrat in politics, and served for three years as a school director in Sandy township, being one of the first elected to that office in his district.” – Andrew Liddle, Central Pennsylvania History, 1898 Beers Co-Chicago.
This is on my great great grandfather Charles F. Liddle (grandson of the above):
This is regarding the military history of my great great grandfather Charles F. Liddle:
The following was taken from his death certificate, which was found among my grandmothers things.
“Did the deceased have Military or Naval service during any war in which the armed forces of the United States were engaged? YES or NO. Yes If such service was rendered, furnish the following information;
Branch of service. ARMY NAVY_____ MARINE CORPS_____ NURSE CORPS____
Name of War: Spanish American
Organization and rank at discharge; Private Battery K Fourth Regiment Artillery.
Enlisted: 1st Sept 1898 Discharged: Feb 21st 1899
Character of Discharge: Honorable Wounded in Action: NO
Army of the United States
To whom this may concern
Know ye, that Charles F. Liddle a private of Battery K of the Fourth Regiment of Artillery who was enlisted on the -1st- day of September one thousand eight hundred and ninety eight to serve three years is hereby Honorably Discharged from the Army of the United States by reason of:
General Orders no. 40 G.ld?(can’t make out these two letters due to the handwriting). Feb. 21st 1899.
The said Charles F. Liddle was born in Dubois in the state of Pennsylvania and when enlisted was 21 years of age, 5 feet 5 7/10 inches high, light complexion, blue eyes, and brown hair and by occupation a Laborer.
On my ancestor Jesse E. Reed (Y-DNA I1):
Photo: http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k438/ragnarok1227/JesseEmersonReed-1.jpg
According to the Tennessee State Library & Archives, Jesse Reed was a private in the War of 1812. Jesse enlisted January 28, 1814 and served under Col. Stephen Copeland, 3rd Regiment Tennessee Militia & Capt. William Evans Military Infantry. He left the service May 10, 1815.
During his involvement in the War of 1812, Jesse, under the command of Stephen Copeland, and Col. General Andrew Jackson, marched on the Creek Indians at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. It is said that he was also in Florida where the American flag was raised at Pensacola.
According to the Tennessee State Library & Archives, Jesse Reed was a
Private in the War of 1812. Jesse enlisted January 28, 1814 and served
under Col. Stephen Copeland, 3rd Regiment Tennessee Militia & Capt.
William Evans Military Infantry. He left service May 10, 1815.
During his involvement in the War of 1812, Jesse, under the command of
Stephen Copeland, and Col. General Andrew Jackson, marched on the Creek
Indians at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. It is said that he was also in
Florida where the American flag was raised at Pensacola. According to
family tradition, Jesse and Andrew Jackson became friends and when
Jackson passed through the area on his way to Burksville, Kentucky, he
visited and stayed with the Reed Family.
We have a personal description of Jesse taken from an affidavit from the War of 1812: According to Mary, when he was drafted, Jesse was over 18 years old, a farmer, born in Virginia, ( 5 1/2 high about) blue eyes, black hair; complexion fair, round shouldered.
This is regarding my great great great great grandfather Starling Neal (he is of mixed Northern Irish and German ancestry with a little bit of English):
25th Regiment, Tennessee Infantry
25th Infantry Regiment completed its organization in August, 1861, at Camp Zollicoffer, in Overton County, Tennessee. Its members were recruited in the counties of White, Overton, Putnam, and Jackson. The unit fought at Fishing Creek and Perryville, then was assigned to General B.R. Johnson's Brigade, Army of Tennessee. In November, 1863, it was consolidated with the 44th Regiment. The unit participated in the conflicts at Murfreesboro and Chickamauga, served in the Knoxville operations, then moved to Virginia. Here it saw action at Drewry's Bluff, took its place in the Petersburg trenches, and ended the war at Appomattox Courthouse. In January, 1862, this regiment reported 683 men present for duty, had 55 disabled at Fishing Creek, and suffered 8 casualties at Perryville. It lost thirty-six percent of the 336 at Murfreesboro and thirty-nine percent of the 145 at Chickamauga. The 25th/44th reported 95 casualties of the 259 engaged at Drewry's Bluff. On April 9, 1865, the 25th surrendered 4 officers and 21 men. The field officers were Colonels John M. Hughes and Sidney S. Stanton; Lieutenant Colonels Samuel Davis, George G. Dibrell, R.C. Sanders, Robert B. Snowden; and Majors Josiah H. Bilbrey, William A. Duncan, Samuel H. McCarver, and Timothy H. Williams.
25th Regiment, Tennessee Infantry
No. Soldier Name Company Rank In Rank Out
1 Neal, A.M.
F Private Private
2 Neal, B.J.
K Private Private
3 Neal, Benjamin
K Private Private
4 Neal, Starling
H Private Private
Papa Anodyne
2010-12-12, 18:29
We have a personal description of Jesse taken from an affidavit from the War of 1812: According to Mary, when he was drafted, Jesse was over 18 years old, a farmer, born in Virginia, ( 5 1/2 high about) blue eyes, black hair; complexion fair, round shouldered.
It always amazes me how short people were back then. I was at the MET in NYC and was looking at armor. It looked like children wore it.
Okay, carry on everyone...
cadwallon
2010-12-12, 18:33
This is regarding my Cleveland ancestors (I'm related to former President Grover Cleveland through this line):
Passenger ship lists show that Edward Winn, his wife Joanna, his daughters Ann and Elizabeth came to America with their indentured apprentice Moses Cleveland about 1625, disembarking probably at either Boston or Plymouth MA. Edward Winn was a shipbuilder and housewright, Moses was apprenticed as a joiner or carpenter. Indenturing was a common practice with orphaned children in England and other countries, and we can speculate that his brothers were also sold for their keep and to learn a trade not much later. Moses soon worked out his indenture and learned his trade as a carpenter well. He was made a freeman in 1643 in Woburn MA and gained considerable prominence in local politics. On Sept 26, 1648 he married Ann Winn. He soon acquired more land and built a masonry house that became a historical landmark. He was admitted to full communion with the First Church of Charlestown in 1692. ...
This is regarding my Cleveland ancestors (I'm related to former President Grover Cleveland through this line):
Laura Bush is my 7th cousin, as is John McCain (thru the same line).
Anyway.
cadwallon
2010-12-12, 18:34
It always amazes me how short people were back then. I was at the MET in NYC and was looking at armor. It looked like children wore it.
Okay, carry on everyone...
Indeed, we had an old uniform in the family from the Spanish American War, the only time I would have been able to fit in it was when I was 12 or something. lol
One could say the Air Force was a family tradition:
BRIGADIER GENERAL CECIL P. LESSIG
Retired June 1, 1962. Died May 21, 1984.
Cecil Parker Lessig was born at Ellsworth, Kan., in 1908. He attended Wesleyan University, Salinas, Kan., College of Emporia, Emporia, Kan., and Centenary College, Shreveport La.
Following a three year tour of duty with the U.S. Navy as an airplane mechanic, he began flight training at Randolph Field, Texas in March 1935. Upon completion of Advanced Flight Training Feb. 28, 1936, the general served one year on active duty as a flying cadet and was then commissioned a second lieutenant in the Army Air Corps, March 1, 1937. His primary duty until June 1940 was as a pilot and he, since then, has logged in excess of 5,000 hours of flight time. He was made a command pilot with the 20th Pursuit Squadron at Barksdale Field, La. Later, he served successively as a group supply officer, communications and armament officer, operations officer, executive officer and finally as a group commander.
In 1936, General Lessig won the Frank Luke Trophy for the highest gunnery score in the U.S. Army Air Corps. In 1937 and 1938, he was a member of the gunnery team that won the same trophy.
When the Eighth Air Force was established in England, General Lessig was assigned to the 8th Bomber Command as an operations and training officer. Later, he became the deputy chief of staff for operations. He next served as the 8th Air Force liaison officer with the British Air Ministry and was subsequently appointed the Eighth Air Force representative on the Combined Operations Planning Committee.
General Lessig then entered the Royal Air Force Staff College at Gerrards Cross, Buckinghamshire, England, as the first U.S. officer to attend. He was also the first U.S. officer to fly over occupied France in World War II when he flew an RAF Spitfire over France on a fighter sweep mission, March 19, 1942, with an RAF fighter squadron from Hornchurch Airfield near London. General Lessig also flew one mission with the Royal Air Force bomber command and six combat mission with the Eighth Air Force accumulating 38 combat hours in a Spitfire, a Lancaster, B-17s and B-26s in the European Theater.
In early 1944, General Lessig returned to the United States to assume duty as deputy chief, Theaters, Commitments and Implementation Branch, Army Air Force Headquarters, Washington, D.C. He subsequently became chief of the Theaters and Redevelopment Branch, Commitments Division, Army Air Force, there.
In 1946, General Lessig entered the newly-established Air War College at Maxwell Field, Ala., and upon completion of the nine-month course, was assigned there as an instructor, and chief of the Air Strategy Division. General Lessig next served as chief of the Intelligence Division of the college from July 1948 until August 1950 when he left to attend the National War College in Washington, D.C.
After completion of his studies at the National War College in June 1951, General Lessig returned to Air Force headquarters and was assigned as the deputy director of requirements, Office of Deputy Chief of Staff for Development. He remained in this position until March 19, 1953 when he was appointed the Air Force member in the Studies and Liaison Division, Weapons System Evaluation Group, Office of the Secretary of Defense.
Going overseas in July 1954, the general assumed command of the 18th Fighter-Bomber Wing, Far East Air Forces in Korea. He served as its commander until Sept. 9, 1954. At that time he was designated commander of the Third Bombardment Wing (Light) which was being prepared for a move to Japan. He readied the wing for the change of station and accompanied it to Johnson Air Base, Japan on Oct. 1, 1954.
On March 1, 1955, General Lessig assumed command of the reorganized 41st Air Division, Fifth Air Force, Nagoya, Japan, that controlled ground and air activities in the Central Japan area. On Oct. 6, 1956, he was promoted to the grade of brigadier general, U.S. Air Force. He remained as the commander of the 41st Air Division unti1 his return to the United States on June 21, 1958.
General Lessig reported to Headquarters Air Defense Command, Ent Air Force Base, Colorado Springs, Colo., Aug. 1, 1958 and was assigned as assistant deputy for plans. In August 1959 he became deputy for plans, Headquarters ADC.
On Nov. 1, 1959, General Lessig became the commander of t1he 29th Air Division of the Air Defense Command at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Mont. On Jan. 1, 1960, that division became the dual command of the 29th Air Division (SAGE) Semi-Automatic Ground Environment and the 29th NORAD (North American Air Defense) Region, both at the same base. The general commanded these units until June 29, 1961 when he became the commander of the Fifth Air Force Reserve Region with headquarters at Selfridge Air Force Base, Mich.
The general acquired the nickname "Brick" from his family.
Three of my Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandparents (either 8 or 9 greats) Came to the United States before it was even called that in the 1600s on the Mayflower. They were the first white people to set foot in the country. Well except the vikings 1000 years back :p
Of interest:
"It is estimated that about 10 percent of Americans today can trace their ancestry back to the Mayflower. Researching Pilgrim genealogy can begin online. Mayflower historian, Caleb Johnson, owns and maintains the website, MayflowerHistory.com. Here, genealogists can view the Mayflower’s passenger list, wills of more than a dozen and a half Pilgrims, history of the Mayflower and its voyage, life in early Plymouth, Massachusetts, and more."
http://ancestry.org/mayflower-ancestors/
Three of my Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandparents (either 8 or 9 greats) Came to the United States before it was even called that in the 1600s on the Mayflower. They were the first white people to set foot in the country. Well except the vikings 1000 years back :p
why is Virginia's status as first colony always de-emphasized.
Jamestown was the first permanent English settlement, 1607. Thirteen years before the Pilgrims. The first of the original 13 colonies.
Even the first Africans in Virginia arrived in North America before the Mayflower.
The first permanent European settlement period was St. Augustine in 1565. Though Florida wasn't admitted to the Union until 1822.
There were tons of less successful attempts
like the Roanoke settlement in 1585 and Popham in Maine in 1607.
Spanish settlements:
St Augustine, 1565.
San Miguel de Gualdape, 1526.
Bahia de St Maria, 1570.
Santa Elena, 1566.
Espanola, 1598, and Santa Fe, NM, 1609.
French:
Charlesfort, SC, 1562. Saint Croix Island, MN, 1604.
all this to say
people should stop ignoring and disrespecting Virginia's importance, primacy, in colonial US
my family is pretty boring,unless you go back a couple hundred years back to the vikings.but im not too sure how accurate it gets after about 600 or 700 years haha.supposedly im related to leif ericksson which is cool i guess.
i do have an interesting story about how my family came to texas.
supposedly m great great grandfather had a decent sized horse farm in missouri about the time the civil war broke out.he originally was drafted for the union army but he defected and joined the confederacy.obviously they lost and soon after the war they came to arrest my second great grandfather and seize his ranch.supposedly when the marshalls or whoever came to arrest him he shot them to death and ended up leaving the area for texas where he met up with another part of my family that had been there since it was still part of mexico.
just something interesting.the rest of my family history is boring,consisting of coalminers and rail workers mostly.along with small time farmers.the ones who arent boring are drug dealers and robbers.but their interesting in all the wrong ways haha.
armchairanthro
2011-01-09, 07:33
One of my ancestors is Andre Massena: grandfather, I don't know how many greats. My great grandmother was first cousins with Queen Victoria. My grandmother has documentation. There is also a trail to King Henry I of Germany. http://historymedren.about.com/library/who/blwwhenryfowler.htm My great grandfather hired someone to trace his lineage years ago and that person tracked our lineage to King Henry I. The same grandmother has that documentation too. I hope she leaves the paperwork to me because it is very interesting.
Ubirajara
2011-01-21, 15:35
I think genealogy is something worth doing. One can learn a lot by looking at the past. In the recent years, I've discovered some interesting things, and I have kept the record of my findings.
I don't have stories of my ancestors more than a hundred years back...but I do know that my paternal grandparents met during WWII because they were both working for the US Government here in the Philippines. My grandmother was working at the Office of the Provost Marshall while my grandfather was with the Chaplain of the Governor (I think it was William H. Taft that time).
My grandfather, whose name is "Bienvenido" became a spy for the US...he'd go to South America all the time for trips that nobody knows what for.
Day Tripper
2011-05-13, 03:47
(Greatx9) grandfather Robert Land and (Greatx8) grandmother Rebecca Land:
Robert Land
According to the muster roll of a detachment of New York Troops raised in 1758 for service in the Seven Years' War, Robert Land was then 20 years of age and is recorded as having been born in New York, Although whether the city of the province of New York was not stated. In local histories of NewYork and Pennsylvania, Land is occasionally referred to as "an Englishman".
Sometime in the early 1760's, Robert Land took up residence as a farmer and woodturner at Cushutank, Pennsylvania, across the Delaware River
from Cochecton, New York, in what is now Wayne County. Here he also served as a magistrate or justice of the peace under the colonial government of Pennsylvania.
On the outbreak of the American revolution, Robert became a courier for the British, carrying dispatches from General Sir Henry Clinton, the commander-in-chief in New York, to the Niagara frontier. Both Robert and his family suffered at the hands of the local rebels who regarded him as a traitor and a spy for his pro-British activities.
John,the oldest son, was jailed at the beginning of the war and kept in custody throughout the conflict. In April 1777, when Robert was away on military activities, the family homestead was burned to the ground by Indians hostile to the British cause. Following this, Phebe Land moved her family about twenty miles west of Cochecton for safety.
Twice Robert Land was brought before local Committees of Safety, first at Peenpack, in New York, and then in Northampton County, Pennsylvania, and accused of being an enemy of the United States. Fearing for his life, he left for New York City where he worked as a carpenter in King's Yard from February 1778 to February 1779. He then left New York to carry a message to the commandant at Fort Niagara (near Lewiston, NY) and to visit his family on the way.
On 14 March 1779, he was captured by rebel militia, brought before a militarily court at Minisink, New York, and charged with being a British spy. On 18 March, he was found guilty and sentenced to death. His conviction was subsequently overturned by George Washington on the jurisdiction of a military court. Washington ordered him to be turned over to the civil authorities in Easton, Pa., for a new trial. Released on bail to await the new trial, Robert joined with a party of Tories bound for Niagara, one of whom was Ralph Moron, a Quaker.
On 12 May 1780, the party was discovered by American militia, Robert was shot and wounded
but made his escape back to New York City, where his family was now relocated. The unfortunate Morden was tried and convicted of treason and hanged.
In 1782, Robert arrived at Niagara with dispatches from New York. But was not able to leave Niagara to rejoin his family in New York before the war ended and his family had been evacuated to New Brunswick. According to tradition, Land received a grant of 200 acres of land near Lundy's Lane at Niagara. As late as 20 July 1784, he continued to draw rations at Niagara but likely had already settled at the Head of the Lake where he erected a dwelling at what is now the corner of Barton and Leeming Streets. He hunted, farmed, and fished for a living and is said to have grown the first wheat in the area.
Phebe, wife of Robert Land, was born in Virginia in 1733. One cannot help but admire the courage and endurance of our pioneer women and it is time to Honour them.
With Robert away the family suffered greatly. John was in jail for the duration; Abigail's husband, Capt. Wm. Birney, had been killed and and Abel had been taken by Indians and forced to run the gauntlet before being released.
Rebecca, the youngest daughter, received a warning from an Indian that one of their neighbors was in trouble. She hurried to their assistance and found the entire family murdered. Returning home, she was warmed again to get the children out quickly as Indians were coming to burn the house. The family hid in the woods and watched their house burn to the ground. Phebe with her children, hid in the woods for several days, then, travelling by night and hiding by day, they reached a Loyalist district. Eventually they arrived in New York and remained under British protection.
Phebe Land and her family were evacuated to New Brunswick with the other Loyalists from New York. They settled at Parr Town (Saint John) on lots 318, 393, and 424, and later on a lot at Belle Isle, Kings Co. The land was poor and the hardships numerous, but they managed for about seven years. Finally, Phebe, with sons Robert and Ephraim decided to go to Upper Canada to better land.
Believing Robert to be dead, they decided to stop off to visit John in Pennsylvania on their way to Niagara. John tried to get them to remain with him as he was now a successful farmer and had regained his father's land, but they were determined to go to Upper Canada. When they arrived in Niagara they heard of a man by the name of "Land" living at the Head-of-the-Lake, so they decided to travel on to find out who it might be. There they found Robert, who had heard they had died in the house fire, and it was a great reunion.
Noting that Phebe was almost sixty years of age by the time she arrived at the Head-of-the-Lake, it is truly remarkable the miles she travelled in a time before good roads and often through unfriendly and unfamiliar territory-truly a pioneer.
Eventually Abel, Abigail, Rebecca and Phoebe with their families came to the Head-of-the-Lake and took up grants of land, uniting all the family save John.
As Loyalists, their total land grants amounted to more than 1,000 acres in what is now the City of Hamilton, stretching from the bay on the north to the mountain on the south, and from Wellington Street in the west to Sherman Avenue in the east.
Robert Land died in July 1818 and, with his wife Phebe, is buried in the Land Vault at Hamilton Cemetery.
In his Will dated 27 Oct. 1805,
1. Oath by Witness to the Will
United Counties of Wentworth and Halton, to wit:
Joseph Birney of the Township of Nelson in the County of Halton, Yeoman, Maketh Oath and saith, that he was personally present and did see Robert Land the Testator named in the last Will and Testament hereto annexed, sign and seal the same, and heard him, the said Testator, declare and pronounce the same to be his last Will and Testament; and this deponent further saith that Nathaniel Houghson and William Applegarth, both now deceased, were also present, and did see the said Testator sign and seal the said hereto annexed last Will, and heard him, the Testator, pronounce and declare the same to be his last Will and Testament; and the deponent further saith, that the witnesses to said last Will, signed as witnesses to the same, in the presence of the said Testator and of each other, and at Testator’s request.
Joseph Birney
Sworn before me at Hamilton, this twenty second day of August A.D. 1851.
Robert Macdonald - Deputy Registrar Sur. Court
2. The Will
In the name of God, Amen.
I, Robert Land Senior of the Township of Barton in the District of Niagara, Yeoman, considering the uncertainty of this mortal life, and being of sound and perfect mind and memory, blessed be Almighty God for the same, do make and publish this my last will and testament in manner and form following, that is to say:
First: I give and bequeath to my loving wife Pheby after the payment of my just debts all my household furniture and the use and improvement of one third part of all my other estate both real and personal, deducting the amount of the several Legacies herein after mentioned, for and during the term of her natural life, and that she my said wife Phebe shall have the full use of the East Room on the ground floor during her natural life, in the house now standing upon lot No. eleven in the first concession of the Township of Barton and District and Province aforesaid being the house in which I now live.
Second: I do also give and bequeath to my son John the sum of twenty shillings.
I do also give and bequeath to my son Abel the sum of twenty shillings.
I also give and bequeath to my Daughter Abigail, the wife of Oziah McCarty, the sum of twenty shillings.
I do also give and bequeath to my Daughter Rebecca the sum of twenty shillings, the said Rebecca being the wife of Nathaniel Hughson.
I do also give and bequeath to my Daughter Phebe, the wife of Clement Lucus the sum of twenty shillings, which said several legacies shall be paid by my executors herein after named within one year after my decease.
And I do hereby give and devise to my son Robert and to his heirs and assigns forever the whole of the lot number eleven in the first Concession of the Township of Barton aforesaid with the broken front thereof containing one hundred and twelve acres, and also the North half of lot number eleven in the second Concession of the said Township of Barton containing in the whole one hundred and sixty two acres be the same more or less, together with the buildings thereon standing, to hold to him my said son, Robert Land and to his heirs and assigns forever, excepting and reserving the use and improvement of one third part of the same for my said wife Phebe for and during the term of her natural life, as is herein before mentioned.
And I do also give and devise to my son Ephraim the south half part of the aforesaid lot number eleven in the second Concession and the whole of the lot number eleven in the third Concession of the Township of Barton aforesaid, containing in the whole one hundred and fifty acres be the same more or less, together with the buildings thereon standing, to hold to him my said son Ephraim and to his heirs and assigns forever, excepting and reserving the use and improvement of one third part of the same for my said Wife Phebe, for and during the term of her natural life as is herein before mentioned. –
And lastly, I do hereby nominate and appoint my said sons Robert and Ephraim Land to be executors of this my last will and testament, hereby revoking all former wills by me made.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty-seventh [replacing “twenty-second,” which is crossed out] day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and five.
Robert Land (Seal)
Signed, Sealed, Published and Declared, by the above named Robert Land Senior, to be his last will and testament, in the presence of us who have hereunto subscribed our names as witnesses, in presence of the testator.
NB The word twenty-seventh between the seventh and eighth line was interlined before signing.
Joseph Birney Nathaniel Hughson William Applegarth 941
A Will
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A memorial of the within Will is Registered in the office of Registrar for the Counties of Wentworth and Halton the Second of October eighteen hundred and eighteen at twelve o’clock noon upon the oath of Joseph Birney.
James Durand Jr. Dy. Registrar
3. Petition for Probate
IN THE SURROGATE COURT, IN AND FOR THE UNITED COUNTIES OF WENTWORTH AND HALTON.
To Samuel Black Freeman, Esquire, Judge of the Surrogate Court, in and for the United Counties of Wentworth and Halton in the Province of Canada.
The Petition of Robert Land of the City of Hamilton in the County of Wentworth, Esquire, humbly sheweth that Robert Land, late of the said City of Hamilton, departed this life on or about the [no date has been inserted] of July in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and Eighteen, having first duly made published and declared his last Will and Testament, thereby nominating and appointing Your Petitioner, together with Ephraim Land who is now deceased, executors of the same.
The Prayer of Your Petitioner is that Probate of the said last Will and Testament may be granted to him, that the true intent and meaning thereof may be fully carried out, and to do as the Law in such cases requires,
And Your Petitioner, as duty bound, will ever pray, &c.
Robert Land Dated Hamilton, 22 August 1851.
4. Oath of Executor
SURROGATE COURT OF THE UNITED COUNTIES OF WENTWORTH AND HALTON.
You, Robert Land of the City of Hamilton, in the County of Wentworth, Esquire, in the Province of Canada, do swear that you believe this paper writing hereto annexed, to be THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT of Robert Land late of the said City of Hamilton and Province aforesaid, Esquire, deceased – that you will pay all such debts as the said deceased owed at his death, so far as such Goods, Rights, Credits and Chattels will thereunto extend and the Law requires; and that you will make a true, full and perfect inventory of all and singular the Goods, Rights, Credits and Chattels of the said deceased, and exhibit the same into the Registry of the Surrogate Court, in and for the United Counties of Wentworth and Halton, when thereunto lawfully required. SO HELP YOU GOD.
Robert Land
Sworn before me at Hamilton, in the County of Wentworth, this twenty second day of August, A.D. 185_ [final digit of the year was not inserted].
Robert Macdonald Deputy Regr Sur. Court
5. Handwritten scraps found in the estate file
Robert Land of the City of Hamilton in the County of Wentworth, Esquire (together with Ephraim Land who is since deceased) Executors of the same. 12th Sept. 1851
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Last Will & Testament Robert Land, Hamilton
Probate granted to Robert Land - Granted 12th Sept. 1851 - Recorded Liber I folio 247 2901-299
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941 In the Will of Robert Land
Sent to Probate 1.0.0 6/8
Receiving inventory 6.5
Filing same 3/8
Collating Will 6/8
Probate 10/-
Recording 10/-
1.6.8 £1.16.8
1. 6.8
£3. 3.4
22nd August 1851 Received above - Robt. Macdonald Dep. Regr. Oath 1/- Aff 2/6 3.6.0
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Compiled from inscriptions in the vault, June 5, 1945.
Name Died Born (Est.)
Robert Land First white settler in Hamilton July, 1818, Aged 82 yrs. 1736
Phebe Wife of Robert Land Sept., 1826 93 yrs. 1733
Col. Robert Land Nov. 21, 1867 95 yrs. 7 mo. 11 days 1772
Hannah Horning Wife of Col. Robt. Land June 9, 1870 93 yrs. 1 mo. 16 days 1777
Peter Horning Land Nov.17, 1847 23 yrs. 1824
Hannah Smith Relict of the late Thomas H. Smith Sept.17, 1879 67 yrs. Dec.21. 1812
Col. John Land Dec.21, 1892 86 yrs. Nov.11, 1806
Esther Morris Wife of Col. John Land June 14, 1875 53 yrs. 5 mo. 4 days 1822
Robert Land Nov. 2, 1859 43 yrs. 1816
Anna D. Land Jan.21, 1856 28 yrs. 5 mo. 21 days 1828
Maria E. Reid Youngest daughter, Col. John Land Jan.13, 1897 40 yrs. Mar. 2, 1857
Robert Land Son of John and Esther Mar.26, 1872 18 yrs. 7 mo. 22 days 1853
Emily Land Daughter of John and Esther Mar. 15, 1862 17 yrs. 18 mos. 1844
John Sidney Herbert Son of John G. Y. and I. Burkholder Oct. 1, 1873 4 mo. 1873
Mary Crisp Wife of John H. Land Oct.19, 1876 27 yrs. 2 mos. 7 days 1849
Priscilla H. M. Filman Wife of John H. Land June 21, 1920 65 yrs. July 31, 1855
John H. Land Jan. 2, 1929 83 yrs. Sept.19, 1846
Infant daughter of John H. and Priscilla Land, Born Jan. 6, died Jan. 7, 1894
In memoriam tablet to the Children of Col. John Land who are buried elsewhere.
Catharine Lucas Appleby
Annie Esther Webster Hamilton
Hanna Isabelle Burkholder Lillooet, B.C.
Capt. Peter M. Land At Sea, Fiji
Note 1. No portrait exists of Robert Land I. In Dundurn Museum there are portraits ia oil of Robert
Land II and Hannah Horning, his wife; also of John Land and Esther Morris, his wife.
Note 2. Miss Daisy Land died at London, Ontario, on Sept. 6, 1950, aged 93.
Note 3. The stone tablet is now suitably mounted in the entrance hall of the Robert Land School, and on a brass plate below is inscribed: This historic record, originally placed at Barton and Leeming Streets, has been erected here by the Robert Land Home and School Association, November, 1953
(John Land, who is said to have been the chief founder of Plymtree's Poor Charity (I don't know what that is) I also heard that the St. Peter's Church in Tiverton has tablets in the aisle floors with inscriptions cut in the stone, to the memory of the various members of the Land family. John Land married Dorothy, about 1697, daughter of Edward Tye, and obtained Woodhere Court. John is said to be Roberts father).
THE STORY OF THE LAND FAMILY united empire loyalists, uel, tories, american revolution, hamilton ont history
http://mcafeelandkaiserhughson.familytreeguide.com/getperson.php?personID=I0092&tree=T1&PHPSESSID=993ae25126ee6391206671f0be5cd1ed
Conclusion: there is an extremely high probabilty that a modern English person with predominantly English ancestry descends from Edward III, at a very minimum over 99%, and more likely very close to 100%. The number of descendants of Edward III must therefore include nearly all of the population of England, and probably much of the populations of the rest of the UK and Eire, as well as many millions in the USA, former British colonies and Europe, so 100 million seems a conservative estimate. Documenting one's own descent from Edward III is, however, another matter!
http://www.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/EdwardIIIDescent.php
Day Tripper
2011-05-15, 04:24
Rollo was a powerful Viking leader of contested origin. Dudo of St. Quentin, in his De moribus et actis primorum Normannorum ducum (Latin), tells of a powerful Danish nobleman at loggerheads with the king of Denmark, who had two sons, Gurim and Rollo; upon his death, Rollo was expelled and Gurim killed. William of Jumièges also mentions Rollo's prehistory in his Gesta Normannorum Ducum, but states that he was from the Danish town of Fakse. Wace, writing some 300 years after the event in his Roman de Rou, also mentions the two brothers (as Rou and Garin), as does the Orkneyinga Saga.
Norwegian and Icelandic historians identified Rollo instead with Ganger Hrolf (Hrolf, the Walker), a son of Rognvald Eysteinsson, Earl of Møre, in Western Norway, based on medieval Norwegian and Icelandic sagas. The oldest source of this version is the Latin Historia Norvegiae, written in Norway at the end of the 12th century. This Hrolf fell foul of the Norwegian king Harald Fairhair, and became a Jarl in Normandy. The nickname "the Walker" came from being so big that no horse could carry him.
The question of Rollo's Danish or Norwegian origins was a matter of heated dispute between Norwegian and Danish historians of the 19th and early 20th century, particularly in the run-up to Normandy's 1000-year-anniversary in 1911. Today, historians still disagree on this question, but most would now agree that a certain conclusion can never be reached.
Little is known about his early years. He was born in Bayeux or Rouen to Rollo and his wife Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. According to the William's planctus, he was baptised a Christian.
William succeeded Rollo sometime around 927 and, early in his reign, faced a rebellion from Normans who felt he had become too Gallicised and also from Bretons. According to Orderic Vitalis, the leader was Riouf of Evreux.[1]
After putting down the rebellion, William attacked Breton and ravaged the territory. Resistance to the Normans was led by Alan Wrybeard and Beranger but shortly ended with the Wrybeard fleeing to England and Beranger seeking reconciliation. However, it was not through invasion that he gained Breton territory but by politics, receiving Contentin and Avranchin as a gift from the Rudolph, King of France.
In 935, William married Luitgarde, daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois whose dowry gave him the lands of Longueville, Coudres and Illiers l'Eveque. His expansion northwards, including the fortress of Montreuil brought him into conflict with Arnulf I of Flanders.
The funerary monument of William Longsword in the cathedral of Rouen, France. The monument is from the XIVth century.
In 939 William became involved in a war with Arnulf I of Flanders, which soon became intertwined with the other conflicts troubling the reign of Louis IV. It began with Herluin appealing to William for help to regain the castle of Montreuil from Arnulf. Losing the castle was a major setback in Arnulf's ambitions and William's part in it gained him a deadly enemy. He was ambushed and killed by followers of Arnulf on 17 December 942 at Picquigny on the Somme while at a meeting to settle their differences.
His son Richard the Fearless, child of his first wife, Sprota, succeeded him.
He was born to William I of Normandy, ruler of Normandy, and Sprota. He was still a boy of around 10 years of age when his father died on 17 December 942. His mother was a Breton concubine captured in war and bound to William by a Danish marriage. After William died, Sprota became the wife of Esperleng, a wealthy miller; Rodulf of Ivry was their son and Richard's half-brother.
Richard was still a boy when his father died, and so he was powerless to stop Louis IV of France when he seized Normandy and split the lands, giving lands in lower Normandy to Hugh the Great. Louis kept him in confinement in his youth at Lâon, but he escaped with the assistance of Osmond de Centville, Bernard de Senlis (who had been a companion of Rollo of Normandy), Ivo de Bellèsme, and Bernard the Dane (ancestor of families of Harcourt and Beaumont).
In 946, Richard agreed to "commend" himself to Hugh, Count of Paris. He then allied himself with the Norman and Viking leaders, drove Louis out of Rouen, and took back Normandy by 947. The rest of his reign was mainly peaceful, apart from conflict with Theobald I, Count of Blois marked by the restoration of Church lands and monasteries.
Richard cemented his alliance with Hugh, marrying his daughter Emma. When Hugh died, Richard became vassal to his son Hugh Capet who became king in 987. Although married to Emma, they produced no offspring, his children being the product of a relationship with Gonnor, a woman of Danish origin who gave him a heir, Richard.[1]
He later quarrelled with Ethelred II of England regarding Danish invasions of England because Normandy had been buying up much of the stolen booty.
Richard was bilingual, having been well educated at Bayeux. He was more partial to his Danish subjects than to the Franks. During his reign, Normandy became completely Gallicized and Christianized. He introduced the feudal system and Normandy became one of the most thoroughly feudalized states on the continent. He carried out a major reorganization of the Norman military system, based on heavy cavalry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_of_Normandy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_Normandy
...via my maternal grandmother. Rollo makes a good avatar, I must say.
Mike the Jedi
2011-05-15, 04:42
Don Juan is a rogue and a libertine who takes great pleasure in seducing women and fighting their men. Later, in a graveyard, Don Juan encounters a statue of Don Gonzalo, the dead father of a girl he has seduced, Doña Ana de Ulloa, and impiously invites the father to dine with him; the statue gladly accepts. The father's ghost arrives for dinner at Don Juan's house and in turn invites Don Juan to dine with him in the graveyard. Don Juan accepts and goes to the father's grave, where the statue asks to shake Don Juan's hand. When he extends his arm, the statue grabs hold and drags him away to Hell.
Statues have since become my mortal enemies.
Pallantides
2011-05-15, 05:12
I'm related to Carl Wilhelm Søderberg through my maternal grandmothers paternal line.
80684
http://www.hydro.com/en/Press-room/News/Historic-news-archive/2003/August/Electrode-inventor-wanted-to-make-violins/
Carl Wilhelm Søderberg really wanted to make violins, but this was a dream that could not provide him with a living. But his name has gone down in history thanks to a very real invention far removed from the world of dreams. Yet the inventor of the Søderberg electrode was a modest man who was not unduly concerned about his achievement.
It was between 1909 and 1911, when he was works manager at the Jøssingfjorden steel plant, that Søderberg conceived the idea of burning a carbon electrode directly in an electrical furnace. But, as Gunnar Jerman relates in his book about Norwegian inventors, the first trials failed.
INVENTOR: Carl Wilhelm Søderberg (1876-1955) praised his colleagues and maintained that without their help the Søderberg electrode would never have been invented. (File photo: Elkem)
Carl Wilhelm Søderberg came to Norway from Sweden when he was just eighteen months old. His father was one of the founders of Elektrisk Bureau, which later became part of the ABB group. The young Søderberg studied electrical engineering in Hannover, graduating in 1903. A couple of years previously he had married his Swedish bride, Svea (Lottan) Morell.
The newly qualified engineer left Hannover and embarked on a study tour in Europe - but it was violin construction that he studied most eagerly. He dreamt of becoming the new Stradivarius, but this was a dream that could not provide him with a living. Although he never played the instrument himself, he made some 30 violins.
Further experiments
It was Sam Eyde who got Søderberg appointed in 1913 to Elektrokemisk, which subsequently became Elkem, a company then engaged in research trials, initially at Lysaker and later at Fiskaa Verk in Kristiansand. In 1914 Mathias Øvrom Sem and Jens Westly joined the company. It was this trio that successfully completed the development of the new electrode, but only after several years of trial and error.
During the First World War there was a scarcity of electrodes for the metallurgical industry. Imports from Germany dried up and production at the Norwegian plants was threatened. It was therefore natural to look into the possibility of producing one's own electrodes, and Søderberg informed Sem of his trials at Jøssingfjorden.
Further experiments were originally unsuccessful. Søderberg himself believed there was no reason to proceed, but Sem was determined to continue. By chance they discovered a solution to the remaining crucial technical problem and the electrodes then functioned perfectly.
They were first used in the production of ferro-alloys and calcium carbide, though Jens Westly played an important part in modifying the electrodes for use in aluminium production. The method was patented, and in August 1919 an international commission approved the continuously self-consuming electrode.
An unexpected problem arose when the invention was to be named. Søderberg had nothing against including Sem's name, but Sem also wanted Westly included. This would have made for a very unwieldy name, and the electrode was therefore associated with Søderberg alone for all posterity.
The King vs. John Pipes. Convicted by the Jury for a Publick Cheat in Uttering Counterfeit Money of New Jersey. Sentence - That he pay a fine of Five Pounds to the King; that he stand two hours in the Common Pillory in Trenton this day between the hours of one and six; that he find surety for his good behavior for three years, himself in £100 and one surety in £50 and then to be carted along the publick road which leads from Trenton to the house of Barent Simons where the fact was committed; and so on to the borders or confines of the County of Morris, with a rope about his neck. And the sheriff of the County of Hunterdon is hereby ordered to see the said sentence put in execution; as also to summon such constables to attend the same, as he shall judge necessary, who are commanded to give their attendance accordingly"
source: http://www.pipesfamily.com/cfiet.htm
:)
6th great-grandfather, 8 generations
Through the laxity of Sheriff Caleb Fairchild, all the prisoners broke jail and escaped to the homes of friends and relatives. Governor Jonathan Belcher and his Council agreed that counterfeiters could not be convicted in Morris County and proposed that henceforth they be removed from the county for trial. The Assembly, however, disagreed, and the proposal was dropped. Chief Justice Robert Hunter Morris wanted Sheriff Fairchild prosecuted for allowing the prisoners to escape but no action was taken.
It was not until the Court of Oyer and Terminer was established in Morris County in 1750, with Chief Justice Nevill presiding, that some of the counterfeiters were again arrested and brought to trial. David Brant was found guilty, fined £25, jailed for three months, and put on good behavior for seven years. Ebenezer David was fined £5, ordered to stand in the pillory one hour, jailed for six months, and put on good behavior for nine years. Jeremiah Wright received a fine of £10 for assisting the counterfeiters and was put on good behavior for seven years. Finally, Peter Salter was fined twenty shillings and put on good behavior for two years for counterfeiting pieces of eight. These sentences were light; after all, the law prescribed the death penalty for counterfeiters.
Great-grandfather, printer, NYC, 1908-1930.
printed several dozen secular books in Hebrew fonts; did beautiful work; was a union shop.
Many of my ancestors were early settlers/ natives of North Florida but you probably wouldn't care about that unless you're from here :)
I'm related to John Chapman (otherwise known as Johnny Appleseed). He was a real guy!
Ancestry.com says I am related to both George Bushes, James K Polk, and John F Kennedy too... Go figure that one out.
Day Tripper
2011-05-18, 07:27
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alden)
John Alden (1599 – September 12, 1687) is said to be the first person from the Mayflower to set foot on Plymouth Rock in 1620.[1] He was a ship-carpenter by trade and a cooper for Mayflower, which was usually docked at Southampton.[2] He was also one of the founders of Plymouth Colony and the seventh signer of the Mayflower Compact. Distinguished for practical wisdom, integrity and decision, he acquired and retained a commanding influence over his associates.[3] Employed in public business he became the Governor's Assistant, the Duxbury Deputy to the General Court of Plymouth, a member under arms of Capt. Miles Standish's Duxbury Company, a member of Council of War, Treasurer of Plymouth Colony, and Commissioner to Yarmouth.[4]
...of course on my maternal grandmother's side. Other descendants are John Adams (2nd Pres. of the USA), John Quincy Adams (6th Pres. of the USA), Orson Welles, and Marilyn Monroe.
EDIT: I wonder how many descendants he has. Maybe over a million.
Samuel Wilbore
signer of the Portsmouth Compact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Compact
History
The document was written and signed in Boston by a group of men who followed Anne Hutchinson, a banished Christian dissident from Massachuttets, to seek religious freedom in Rhode Island. The signers were ready to move to Aquidneck Island to set up a new colony and had been disarmed by the Puritan leaders of the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
The purpose of the Portsmouth Compact was to set up a new, independent colony that was Christian in character but non-sectarian in governance. It has been called "the first instrument for governing as a true democracy." [1]
Text
The text [2] of the Portsmouth Compact:
The 7th Day of the First Month, 1638.
We whose names are underwritten do hereby solemnly in the presence of Jehovah incorporate ourselves into a Bodie Politick and as He shall help, will submit our persons, lives and estates unto our Lord Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, and to all those perfect and most absolute laws of His given in His Holy Word of truth, to be guided and judged thereby.
Day Tripper
2011-05-18, 07:38
Australopithecus.
81660
Australopithecus (Latin australis "southern", Greek πίθηκος pithekos "ape") is a genus of hominids that is now extinct. From the evidence gathered by palaeontologists and archaeologists, it appears that the Australopithecus genus evolved in eastern Africa around 4 million years ago before spreading throughout the continent and eventually becoming extinct 2 million years ago. During this time period various different forms of australopiths existed, including Australopithecus anamensis, A. afarensis, A. sediba, and A. africanus. There is still some debate amongst academics whether certain African hominid species of this time, such as A. robustus and A. boisei, constitute members of the same genus; if so, they would be considered to be robust australopiths whilst the others would be considered gracile australopiths. However, if these species do indeed constitute their own genus, then they may be given their own name, the Paranthropus.
It is widely held by archaeologists and palaeontologists that the australopiths played a significant part in human evolution, and it was one of the australopith species that eventually evolved into the Homo genus in Africa around 2 million years ago, which contained within it species like Homo habilis, H. ergaster and eventually the modern human species, H. sapiens sapiens.[1]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimit%C3%ABr_Kamarda
Dhimitër Kamarda (Italian: Demetrio Camarda) (born in Piana degli Albanesi, Sicily, Italy in 1821, and died in Piana degli Albanesi in 1882) was a linguist, patriot of the Arbëreshë, and publisher of Albanian folklore, with scientific knowledge also in the field of Indo-European linguistics. He was the follower of the work already performed by Jeronim de Rada.[1] His main work, Test of Comparative Grammar on Albanian Language is the first scientific work of comparative historic study on the topic.[2] He made an important contribution with the publication of The Albanian general alphabet in 1869.
unproven/some evidence as an ancestor:
Colonel William Byrd II (28 March 1674 – 26 August 1744)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Byrd_II
William Byrd not only was an avid politician and statesman, but he was also a great writer. Many of his works are now part of the American literary canon. His most famous work is arguably The History of the Dividing Line, published in 1841, but he also wrote The Secret History, which provides a much more "colorful" perspective of the mapping of the border between Virginia and North Carolina. His other works, published in The Westover Manuscripts in 1841, include but are not limited to A Journey to the Land of Eden, A Progress to the Mines, and The Secret Diaries of William Byrd of Westover.
Without a doubt, The History of the Dividing Line is Byrd’s most influential piece of literature.[citation needed] In conjunction with The Secret History, the societal stereotypes and attitudes of the time are revealed. According to Pierre Marambaud, Byrd, "had first prepared a narrative, The Secret History of the Line, which under fictitious names described the persons of the surveying expedition and the incidents that had befallen them" (Marambaud 144).
Ubirajara
2011-05-18, 13:51
Gaspar de Godoy Colaço (he got married to Sebastiana Ribeiro de Moraes in 1652, and he died in 10.12.1713),
http://www.geneall.net/P/per_page.php?id=341435
Threatened by Pedro de Camargo, he took the arquebus from Pedro de Camargo and killed him. As a punishment he received a mission in the Sertão (then unexplored part of the interior of Brazil).
Gaspar de Godói
Tem sua família descrita por Silva Leme, no volume VI, página 145 de sua «Genealogia Paulistana». Foi o 11º filho de João de Godói Moreira, morto em São Paulo em 1665, «cidadão de enorme importância política e civil, abundante em cabedais, com fazenda de cultura de vinhas». Casara com Eufêmia da Costa Mota (de São Vicente, irmã do capitão-mor de Itanhaém Vasco da Mota e do padre Antônio Raposo, pároco colado em 1611 da igreja da vila de São Vicente), filhos de Atanasio da Mota, que em dote de casamento levara os ofícios de escrivão da Fazenda Real de Santos, de que era proprietário o sogro, e Luzia Machado, filha de Simão Machado, um dos primeiros povoadores da vila de São Vicente, vindo com Martim Afonso de Souza em 1531, e de Maria da Costa, de São Vicente, esta neta de Pedro Colaço, reinol vindo de Viana do Minho, capitão-mor e governador da capitania de São Vicente de 1551 a 1565). Gaspar morreu na Parnaiba em 10 de dezembro de 1713. Sertanista, foi tenente-general na conquista do sertão da Vacaria (entre Camapuã e a serra do rio Paraguai) e mereceu, por relevantes serviços, carta do rei D. Pedro II de Portugal a ele dirigida em 1698. Em 1698 o governador Artur de Sá e Meneses desejou uma diligência nas campanhas da Vacaria do Mato Grosso, cordilheira de Maracaju e margens do rio Iguatemi. Pensou mandar o castelhano Amaro Fernandes Gauto, que estivera em São Paulo em 1676 na bandeira de Francisco Pedroso Xavier. Sua mulher, Sebastiana Ribeiro de Morais, era filha de Francisco Ribeiro de Moraes e de Ana Lopes, tendo eles nove filhos.
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_de_God%C3%B3i_Cola%C3%A7o
§ 11.º
1-11 Gaspar de Godoy Colaço, tenente-general na conquista do sertão da Vacaria entre Camapuã e a serra do rio Paraguai, mereceu por seus relevantes serviços uma honrosa casta escrita pelo punho do rei D. Pedro II em 1698. Foi casado com Sebastiana Ribeiro de Moraes f.ª de Francisco Ribeiro de Moraes e de Anna Lopes. Faleceu em 1713 em Parnaíba e teve (C. O. de S. Paulo):
2-1 João de Godoy Colaço, que casou com Izabel de Lara f.ª de Diogo de Lara e Moraes e de Anna Maria do Prado. Com geração no V. 4.º pág. 552.
2-2 Francisco Ribeiro de Moraes
2-3 José de Godoy Colaço casou em 1716 em Parnaíba com Anna Pires Ribeiro f.ª do capitão Salvador Jorge Velho e de Margarida da Silva. Tit. Jorges Velhos. Teve:
3-1 Margarida da Silva casada em 1757 em Parnaíba com Domingos Fernandes Porto de quem foi a 3.ª mulher. Sem geração.
3-2 Ignacio Pires de Godoy
3-3 Rita Pires de Godoy casou em 1764 em Parnaíba com José de Crasto Pereira, viúvo de Monica ...
3-4 Domingos Jorge Velho
Pág. 146
3-5 Paschoal Leite Paes, † solteiro.
3-6 José de Godoy Pires
3-7 Sebastiana Ribeiro de Moraes casou em 1761 em Parnaíba com João Francisco Mendes, natural de Portugal, f.º de Manoel Francisco e de Maria Mendes. Teve q. d.:
4-1 Anna Pires de Godoy casada com Francisco Xavier da Silva f.º de Manoel da Silva Leme e de Maria Ribeiro de Proença. Teve q. d.:
5-1 João Paulo Xavier, habilitado de genere.
2-4 Gaspar de Godoy
2-5 Victor Antonio
2-6 Anna Lopes Moreira casada com o capitão João Leite de Barros f.º de Pedro Vaz de Barros e de Maria Leite de Mesquita. Com geração no V. 3.º pág. 458.
2-7 Maria Pedroso de Moraes
2-8 Sebastiana Ribeiro de Moraes
2-9 Angela Ribeiro de Moraes
http://buratto.org/paulistana/Godoys_4.htm
Day Tripper
2011-05-20, 13:34
Via my maternal grandfather for once:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincens_Lunge
Vincens Lunge (sporadically referred to as Vincents Lunge) (c. 1486 – 3 January 1536) was a Danish noble, member of the Norwegian realm council (Riksråd) and the foremost representative of King Christian III of Denmark in Norway.[1][2]
Lunge was born in Denmark in 1486. His parents were Vincens Iversen Dyre til Tirsbæk (died earlier than 1497) and Kirsten Tygesdatter Lunge (died earlier than 1529). He studied at the University of Leuven in Leuven, Brabant. He returned to Denmark in 1518 with a doctoral degree in philosophy and canon law. In 1521 he became a professor of law and rector of the University of Copenhagen.
Vincens Lunge was married to Margrete Nilsdatter (ca. 1495–1565), one of the five daughters of Chancellor and Lord High Steward of Norway Nils Henriksson. Her mother was Ingerd Ottesdatter, a member of the Rømer family of Norway who was one of the wealthiest landowner in Norway. Dating from property disputes, Ingerd Ottesdatter had become an enemy of the Olav Engelbrektsson, the powerful Archbishop of Nidaros. [3][4][5]
Early in the reign of King Frederick I of Denmark, Lunge was sent to Northern Norway to enforce the reign of the new king. Lunge acquired Kronstad Hovedgård and the estate Lungegården near Bergen. In 1524, at meeting of the Riksråd, Archbishop Olav Engelbrektsson sponsored requirements to force the newly elected King Frederick I to accept a charter with terms designed to maintain Norway's independence - no foreigners were to be captain of a fortress or lord of a fief, the king was not to impose taxes without the council's consent, the king was not to infringe on the Catholic Church's rights in Norway and the king was to rule Norway only through native-born or married-in Norwegians who resided in Norway. All the king's orders and arrangements were declared invalid until he had signed the coronation charter (Håndfæstning).
In 1533, the election of King Christian III of Denmark triggered the Count's Feud (Grevefeiden), a civil war that raged from 1534–1536 pitting Roman Catholic forces against the Protestant Reformation movement within Denmark and Norway. The relationship with Archbishop Olav Engelbrektsson gradually worsened. This resulted in numerous conflicts between them, which included as well as Ingerd Ottesdatter. In 1535, Lunge traveled to Trondheim to negotiate peace in the conflict. During January 1536, Lunge was murdered by the allies of Archbishop Engelbrektsson. As described in the Diplomatarium Norvegicum,[6] the actual murder of the earl was said to have taken place at the hands of Archbishop Engelbrektsson's cousin, Kristoffer Trondson. Admiral Trondson was head of a fleet which had been in conflict with Danish vessels. [7]
This dramatic events surrounding the death of Vincens Lunge are memorialized today in an annual opera sponsored by the Norwegian Ministry of Culture, titled Olav Engelbrektsson, which takes place at Steinvikholm Castle outside of Trondheim.
In Bergen today, many landmarks are still associated with Vincens Lunge. From the name of his estate Lungegården, two well known lakes in Bergen go by the name Lille Lungegårdsvannet and Store Lungegårdsvannet. In addition a street in Bergen is named Vincens Lunges Gate.
I wonder if evon recognizes any of these landmarks.
Day Tripper
2011-05-20, 14:58
Now this is interesting. It turns out my long-ago ancestor King Charles III of France (through my maternal grandfather) defeated my long-ago ancestor Rollo Ragnvaldsson (the subject of my avatar, through my maternal grandmother), but they got along fine in the end:
In 911 Charles defeated the Viking leader Rollo, had him sign the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte that made Rollo his vassal and converted him to Christianity. Charles then gave him land around Rouen, the heart of what would become Normandy and his daughter Gisela in marriage.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Simple)
Since this was so long ago, I imagine a large proportion of Europeans (maybe nearly all of Western Europeans) could say exactly the same thing, as Warwick pointed out earlier. Here's something else on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_descent
It's interesting how the descendents of this French king eventually found their way to Northern Sweden and (briefly) Finland.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5794/gffighterpilot.png
grandfather, Lt. Col., fighter pilot WWII
My great grandmother was a highly successful fortune teller near Lake Baikal in the early 1940s. No bullshit.
My great grandmother was a highly successful fortune teller near Lake Baikal in the early 1940s. No bullshit.
That's in Siberia I believe. Exiled or transported by Stalin?
That's in Siberia I believe. Exiled or transported by Stalin?
Exiled Polish bourgeois.
Exiled Polish bourgeois.
A family member did some research on that region, so that's interesting.
(Russian and Soviet historian)
My great grandmother was a highly successful fortune teller near Lake Baikal in the early 1940s. No bullshit.
That sounds like a very interesting story. :o
Could you expand on it a bit more?
(Would like to see this movie):
http://www.theblurb.com.au/Issue123/WayBack_FM.htm
^ Well, they had to do whatever to make ends meet, and she somehow got into fortune telling. I have no idea what the rest of them did, although I know they ate a few brown bears while over there.
They all came back safely to Poland, even though all the men (five brothers and father) had to fight ze Germans on the Eastern Front (all the way from eastern Belarus to Berlin) before they could do so.
I've always hated psychics, mediums, fortune tellers, palm readers, and other types of mystics. Evil, evil people.
As far as I know, nobody in my family has been involved in the occult, the church, or anything related to the supernatural.
I've always hated psychics, mediums, fortune tellers, palm readers, and other types of mystics. Evil, evil people.
Ooh spookyyyyy! :o
As far as I know, nobody in my family has been involved in the occult, the church, or anything related to the supernatural.
:evilgrin: So, are you not Catholic after all. :| Isn´t the whole idea of religion to believe in something supernatural blindly? :confused:
Sure, but it's not like my grandfather was a priest or anything.
Restauranteurs, fishermen, merchant marines, military types, nobles/landowners, farmers, plenty of occupations, but nothing related to spirituality, or the spirit world.
The less involved you are in your religion, the more Catholic you are. :p
1st paragraph: [January 1943]
Lieut. Col. Roy M. Loe, 26, son of Mr. and Mrs. J.B. Loe of 916 College Drive Pineville, one of the youngest high ranking air officers in the US Army, who will not be 27 until May 12, is missing in action, his parents said today after being notified by the war department.
yahooland
2011-06-03, 13:44
I'm the great great grandson of Marcel Guillaume (1872-1963)(that mean that I share 6,25% of my dna with this guy) a famous Commissioner back to this era who lead the Crime Squad in the commissionership on 36 quai des orfèvres in paris.
He is the personn who inspire the writer Georges Simenon for his famous(in france) fictional police detective jules maigret(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Maigret).
He participate in the affair like the affair of Bonnot Gang wich is the most famous affair he participate(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Bonnot),he also participate on affair Violette Nozière, affair Mestorino, Landru, affair Stavisky, Paul Gorgulov, murder of président Paul Doumer) he was also one of the Investigator on the Hitler dead .
lol he is just the only recent(because i don't know the old ones xD) ancestors which is a bit famous i know
Persian Guy
2011-06-03, 17:59
My ancestor Pierre de Moucheron and his wife Isabeau de Gerbier. This is a family portait, my ancestor, their son Francois is the little boy with the red sleeves reaching out to his uncle.
http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-a-1537.z
I even started a blog on this family .. to document my research.
Don't have much, we lost touch with some of the family in India and Europe.
I just know my paternal grandmother's family "ran away" to South Africa because her mother married a Gypsy from India and the family disowned her for it, said they were "evil" and had problems with them together because he was from a low-caste, causing them to first move to South India and then lastly moving to SA. lol for the "evil" part!
Curiouscat
2011-07-25, 01:05
edit.. need to recheck some details.
http://www.myersfamilytree.com/bonifay/marianna.htm
My GGGGrandmother
Women's History Month - Mariana Bonifay
Published Pensacola News Journal, Sun., Mar. 30, 2003.
Women`s History Month shouldn`t be allowed to slip by - as it`s about to do - without spotlighting Mariana Bonifay, a pioneering Pensacola businesswoman if ever there was one. Bonifay bought land, built houses and made money in Pensacola 200 years ago. And she did it all while raising 14 children - the count varies, but 14 seems the popular number - and that, mind you, before the days of Sesame Street and Mothers` Morning Out (not to mention some relevant medical advancements). The next time they bring a film festival to town, I think they should include a movie about Mariana. Besides being an adventurous and astute businesswoman, she fulfills another must-have for Hollywood scripts: the love angle. It`s almost certain that the "community of interests" - so described in her will - that she shared for 30 years or more with business partner Charles LaValle did not include a marriage certificate, although it did produce six or more of her children. One tidbit filmmakers aren`t likely to overlook: Historic accounts indicate she was carrying her third child by LaValle when she received word that her husband, Joseph Bonifay, had been killed the year before, in 1801. Mr. Bonifay, who was apparently in the military - perhaps the Spanish - hadn`t been heard from for several years. Mariana was born in France about 1760, married on the island of Santo Domingo and moved to then-Spanish ruled Pensacola about 1781, according to Pensacola Historical Society records. She bought a house on West Intendencia Street in 1784 - in her maiden name of Mariana Pingrow - for herself and then-five children. In 1790, to earn a livelihood, she formed the partnership with LaValle, a neighbor and carpenter, then about 18. She provided cash for lumber, apparently drawing on family means, and he built the homes for the town`s rapidly growing population (likely numbering about 600 by 1795) - colonization being encouraged by the Spanish government. Home lots were acquired through land grant or tax sales. One LaValle home, circa 1805, still stands, on Church Street. In 1807 the partners also invested in a brickyard, which in 1807 to 1808 turned out some 290,200 bricks, in three years netting $6,058 profit. The business climate was rough-hewn in Mariana Bonifay`s time. Pensacola was a frontier town, surrounded by sometimes- unfriendly Indians and flying under a different flag every 20 years or so. (Also lacking, needless to say, were today`s niceties of paved streets, indoor plumbing and e-mail.) Mariana Bonifay defied convention (as well as conventional morality): She pursued business at a time when women were expected to stick to hearth and home. "She was a successful businesswoman and extremely independent - that was one of the keys to her success," said Randall Broxton, Pensacola Junior College history professor. Despite obstacles, she grew in wealth and status. When Andrew Jackson came to govern the newly American possession in 1821, he and wife Rachel were entertained by Mariana in her bayshore home. She died in 1829. About the time of the Civil War, her descendants constituted a goodly share - some say one-third - of Pensacola`s population. Now there`s a woman who made history.
Pioneer, entrepreneur and mother of 10: Bonifay helped shape Scenic Highway
Published, Tuesday, March, 13, 2001 Pensacola News Journal, Nicole Lozare @PensacolaNewsJournal.com
She has been called the Mother of Pensacola, and she literally helped build the Scenic Highway area with her successful brickyard. Yet, after more than 200 years, French-born Marianna Pingrow Bonifay's life in Pensacola is still a bit mysterious. Books and other research materials have conflicting reports on everything from her name to the number of children she had to which Pensacola gentleman she considered her companion. "Basically, the amount of surviving records are limited. So there's different interpretations," said Tom Muir, museum administrator for the Historic Pensacola Preservation Board. Historians agree, though, that Bonifay and her descendants left an enduring mark on Pensacola. The pioneer came to Pensacola in the late 1700s . A single mom, she raised 10 children, according to one count, produced 145,000 bricks a year at her Bonifay Brickyards and juggled several other business interests from real estate to cattle farming. The grand matriarch of the Bonifay family, which still thrives in Pensacola today, lived and constructed her brickyards on what is now Scenic Highway. Historians believe that Bonifay came to America with her husband, Joseph Bonifay, who may have been connected to the Spanish military forces stationed in New Orleans and Pensacola. "We don't know if he ever arrived here. We surmised that he was on the Gulf Coast with the Louisiana regiment and that at a later time period she has a relationship with Charles Lavalle," said Muir. There is no record that Marianna and Joseph Bonifay ever lived together in Pensacola. She had six children with Bonifay. By 1784, Marianna Bonifay, then 26, was living with Sgt. Josef Domingo, 42, with one of her three children, his two children and four family servants, according to the 1784 census. She later purchased land from Domingo, which she put in her name instead of her husband's, as was the usual practice at that time. All of Bonifay's children read and wrote French and Spanish. They also knew how to keep books, just like their mother. One historian wrote that the children also picked up pieces of American Indian dialect as well as some army expressions not fit to print. In 1790, Bonifay invested her entire estate in a business venture with Lavalle, a carpenter and builder. The two would acquire new property, fix it up and then sell it for a profit. They became both business and romantic partners, owning several properties in Pensacola. They also had four children together, Muir said. She and Lavalle owned a home on Gaberonne Point and operated brick kilns near the clay bluffs on Escambia Bay. Bonifay also owned a cattle ranch in Cantonment. When she died in 1829, Bonifay left several properties on Scenic Highway to her children. She died, as she had requested, at her "country abode on the Bay of Scambia."
cadwallon
2011-07-25, 02:18
Got some more to share. Already shared stories in the past on my Confederate soldier ancestors, this time around I figured I'd share some on my Federal soldier ancestors and such, the first tale isn't on the Civil War but is relevant to the settling of Overton County, TN.
On my ancestor George Smith Sr. b. 1750 in Virginia, this tale mentions the Obey River to some extant, all of my family from Overton County (my direct paternal lineage included) settled in proximity to this river and depended on it:
George Smith, Sr. was among the earliest pioneers to enter the Cumberland Plateau of Tennessee where he settled on land that was to become Overton County in 1806, Fentress County in 1823, and Pickett County in 1879. In 1806 Overton County comprised all of present Overton, Clay, and Pickett and part of Fentress and Jackson Counties. The county seat was Monroe. It is likely that George Smith, Sr. settled on land in present day Fentress or Pickett County in April 1800.
Historians of the 3 county area say white settlers were coming into the region in the late 1780's to 1799 as the first permanent settlers. Tennessee became a state in 1796. Following the general pattern the men would come in the spring, build a log cabin and do some clearing of the land and return home in the fall and the next spring would come back bringing their families with them.
Daniel Boone and David Crockett from Virginia and North Carolina were known to have been in this section in the 1760's to 1770's. This region had long been the hunting ground for the Cherokee Indians. Friendly Chief Nettle Carrier had settled on a creek near Alpine and the West Fork of the Obey River. Davey Crockett's brother, Robert, was the first white child to be killed in Tennessee in 1769 near Roaring River in what is presently Overton County near Okalona Church, Highway 42, 5 miles south of Livingston.
When Overton County was established in 1806 the first county seat at Monroe had a population of 300 people. The county seat was moved to Livingston in 1833.
According to Albert Hogue, Fentress County Historian, George Smith, Sr. first settled in what was later to become Overton County in an area called the "Barrows", evidently the Monroe-Wirminghas area. The first mention of George Smith, Sr. in the area is found in land grat #370 from the state of North Carolina to Major William Polk of Revolutionary war, dated April 17, 1800: "Two thousand acres of land in Smith County, a part of Summer County, Wolf and Obey River, now Pickett County and Kentucky state line and below William Livingston's claim."
A tale about his wife:
It appears George Smith married Nancy and she was captured by Indians and with her baby was taken away from the Smith home in Tennessee. She was held captive for a number of years during which time she saw the baby only once and never knew what happened to it. The baby was sitting on a bear skin rug eating a roasted frog leg. As the years passed, she learned Indian ways and when they began to dance around a campfire one evening, their actions convinced her she was to be the sacrifice that night. Making up her mind to escape, she quickly shoved an Indian into the fire. In the confusion, she got away and ran all night. When daylight came with the sounds of the Indians in pursuit, she crawled into a hollow log. She remained there what seemed like days while the Indians were still near and searching. At one time they actually sat on the log. When they finally left, she came out starved and tattered. She had eaten only a part of a raw rabbit that came into the log. Eventually, she found her way to he home of some white settlers who took her in, fed and clothed her and took her back to her former home. George Smith, Sr. in the meantime, thinking his wife was surely dead, had married another woman. Upon the return of his first wife, the second wife left immediately. It has been noted that Mr. Smith was never as nice again to the captured wife after her return, as he probably had been happy with the interim wife.
On his son my ancestor George Smith Jr b. 1828 Overton County, TN (it mentions some tid bits about his siblings and such, I did not compose this so disregard the few instances of first person usage. George had fought and died in the Battle of Rocky Faced Ridge):
"The Smith family was comprised of 2 girls and 11 boys, 10 of whom became
soldiers, 8 for the north and 2 for the south. Seven of them lost their lives
and never got home (Six for the north and one for the south. This is supposed
to be a record for any one family in that or any other war in the United
States. One son, I assume R. Marion was crippled and couldn't go.
Information obtained from History of Hutton Valley, Mo. Written by C. Bob
Hinds, copy of history in my personal file under histories.
My ancestor Anthony Headlee b. 1844 Wetzel Co, West Virginia:
From The Headlee Family Five Brothers and Two Uncles 1980, Dr. Alvah John Washington Headlee
Anthony Headley was a soldier during the civil war, Federal/Union. "During the war between the States he was a soldier of the Federal Aermy, serving in Company I, 15th West Virginia Infntry, and he participated in all the fortunes of the regiment, engaging in this battles and witnessing the surrender of Lee at Appomattox, receiving his honorable discharge June 30th following that event."
On my ancestor Thomas E. Keen b. 1833 New Brunswick, Canada:
Thomas E. Keen served in Company B, 11th PA Inf, Company A, 177 PA Inf and Company B, 4th PA Cav. He received a pension for his services.
Nazi Ufo Commander
2011-08-15, 16:51
a) That village belonged in past to my family. Since 1353.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaszcz%C3%B3w
b) after WWII my great-grandfather was forced by "friendly" russkies to move to siberia, near Tomsk and Omsk. He escaped from there with some other man. Then they both moved near each other. And their kids married, and become my grandfathers.
b) The other guy was closely related to count Alexander Skrzynski, polish prime minister
c) as far as I know some of my ancestors fought durring Polish Uprisings (durring partition time), after one of that, one of them was asked by russkies to become some general. When he refused, the russkies took our land and our goods.
d) one of my great grad-father fought three world wars:
WWI -> Polish-Bolshevik war -> WWII
e) Durring WWII he was member of 27 wolhynian division of AK (Home Army), but then he was forced (under threat of death) to join AL (Peoples Army) of Berling. He was one of the soldiers that walk though Berlin in 1945.
f) his some, who was alone at the time joined Istriebitelne Bataliony at the time, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_battalions . He fought mainly against ukrainian murders.
g) the other great-grandfather was to old to fight at the second world war, and his son, my grandfather was forced to join Lager - Work Camp.
h) earliest know ancestor of mine come from XI/XII. A noble family of Janin's coat of arms. <- Paternal line. Also every single person of the same surname have to be related with me, with no exceptions. Only 55 people with my surname in Poland.
i) my fathers surname has unknown ethymology, my mothers has north germanic origin. Core word - Warthu, guard.
j) My name I got from by great-grandfather (look d.), its Grzegorz. Funny is that, he never had this name for real, it was his militarian nickname, but everyone in family always thought that he was named like that. Other funny thing is that ethymology of this greek name (Gregory, Gregorious) means the same as Warthu (look i.)
thats all for now, lots of more to be;)
amerinese
2011-08-15, 18:14
See attached image, a scan of a newspaper article.
Also here's an anecdotal story about the guy, from the Civil War:
A Story About John Ward (1809 - 1893 Jackson Co. KY)
By Jess Wilson
One story I have about the Preacher Ward is that during the Civil War, Captain Sylvester Isaacs came to his house in Jackson Co. seeking recruits for Company "E" 14th Kentucky Calvary. All of John Ward's sons and his sons-in-law, lined up to join. The old man said, "Now, see here boys, winter time is coming, someone has to stay here to help my daughters and daughters-in-law with the chores." Lots were drawn or an agreement was some how made that one man stay home. It was later reported that he had a much harder time that winter than did the ones who joined the army.
He was my 4x great grandfather.
There is a village in Latvia named after my great great great great great German ancestor, Queen Christina of Sweden gave this land to my ancestor in 1637. So there is a place here that bears my surname, cool. :D
amerinese
2011-08-15, 18:26
Here's a place where some of my other ancestors were from, which bears their surname. It doesn't qualify as a village though. :confused:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=mills,+kentucky&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=38.22949,70.136719&t=h&z=15
Maroon King
2011-08-15, 21:17
my family is pretty boring,unless you go back a couple hundred years back to the vikings.but im not too sure how accurate it gets after about 600 or 700 years haha.supposedly im related to leif ericksson which is cool i guess.
i do have an interesting story about how my family came to texas.
supposedly m great great grandfather had a decent sized horse farm in missouri about the time the civil war broke out.he originally was drafted for the union army but he defected and joined the confederacy.obviously they lost and soon after the war they came to arrest my second great grandfather and seize his ranch.supposedly when the marshalls or whoever came to arrest him he shot them to death and ended up leaving the area for texas where he met up with another part of my family that had been there since it was still part of mexico.
just something interesting.the rest of my family history is boring,consisting of coalminers and rail workers mostly.along with small time farmers.the ones who arent boring are drug dealers and robbers.but their interesting in all the wrong ways haha.
so you part Mexican historically :p
amerinese
2011-08-15, 21:26
Missouri and Kansas were a very ugly manifestation of the Civil War. It was guerrilla warfare between militias, not organized armies, and stuff like killing farmers then torching their houses was common place. Basically his grandpa probably did the right thing to shoot those boys and run to Texas, because it's entirely possible he never would have made it to jail alive, had he gone peacefully.
My dads family historically were cowboys who ruled an entire region by threatening and taxing the inhabitants in El Salvador. They were mostly spaniards and were very rich and held high positions in the Salvadorean Government. There was also a large Villa named after my family in which they kept all of the slaves.
When El Salvador began to become allied with the USA and as it established itself more as a government they had to end the rein of terror from my ancestors and 80% of their land and money was confiscated and redistributed to the people in the region. It was a sad day, my dad's family ended up with only a few houses and some land and are now mostly normal people.
My uncle is still a decorated Colonel and represented El Salvador in the 1968 Olympics in Mexico for track and field.
My great great grandfather had 25 children with 2 women, but he went to war so he probably had more with other women.
Saif ad-Dhib
2011-08-15, 22:00
My badass ancestor from Alabama:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Burrow
http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-2950
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kithandkin2000/rubeburrow1.htm
Reuben Houston Burrow (December 11, 1854-October 9, 1890), better known as Rube Burrow, was a nationally infamous train-robber and outlaw in the Southern and Southwestern United States. During the final years of the American frontier, he became one of the most hunted in the Old West since Jesse James. From 1886 to 1890, he and his gang robbed express trains in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, the Indian Territory and Texas while pursued by hundreds of lawmen throughout the southern half of the United States, including the Pinkerton National Detective Agency.
My great great grandfather had 25 children with 2 women, but he went to war so he probably had more with other women.
Well, you do have a lot of relatives. :thumbsup::lol:
impasible
2011-08-15, 23:42
My dads family historically were cowboys who ruled an entire region by threatening and taxing the inhabitants in El Salvador. They were mostly spaniards and were very rich and held high positions in the Salvadorean Government. There was also a large Villa named after my family in which they kept all of the slaves.
When El Salvador began to become allied with the USA and as it established itself more as a government they had to end the rein of terror from my ancestors and 80% of their land and money was confiscated and redistributed to the people in the region. It was a sad day, my dad's family ended up with only a few houses and some land and are now mostly normal people.
My uncle is still a decorated Colonel and represented El Salvador in the 1968 Olympics in Mexico for track and field.
Wow!!!!
if your ancestors were mostly spaniards with 'only catalan' surname, that is, catalan people, you know now why catalans are know is spain like 'the most industrious people in spain'. :lol:
my last name is found rarely in most of Spain except in catalonia and south france :p
So it seems like it's pretty much catalan.
Well, you do have a lot of relatives. :thumbsup::lol:
Yeah, my dad got a mail a few weeks ago from a French guy that descend from one of my many great grandfather's brothers (his grandfather). He went to France and married a French girl (1912), then he came back to Chile and had another family here, it seems he died here in 1980.
impasible
2011-08-16, 13:29
my last name is found rarely in most of Spain except in catalonia and south france :p
So it seems like it's pretty much catalan.
This southern french 'departement' is the catalan 'comarca' called 'El Roselló'.
It passed to France after some war between spain france and catalonia during the XVI centruty I think.
The inhabitants are catalans, but they're much more assimilated in France that spanish catalans are in spain.
France is an state much more centralized and 'homogenizer' than Spain.
But catalan nation is still (a bit)alive in France.
The rugby team 'dragons' is like a 'national' symbol for them.
http://www.directe.cat/imatges/catalans-dragons-1.jpg
http://www.directe.cat/img/335/335/3707
Yeah, my dad got a mail a few weeks ago from a French guy that descend from one of my many great grandfather's brothers (his grandfather). He went to France and married a French girl (1912), then he came back to Chile and had another family here, it seems he died here in 1980.
Wow! That sounds so interesting and exiting! :thumbsup: I am so interested in the history of my family and right now I need to find out something more about my Lithuanian ancestors/relatives about whom I founded out just some weeks ago. So good look with finding more about your relatives! ;)
Yautja_BR
2011-08-16, 17:56
Some Serbs and Romanians that got into Italy and Slovenia long time ago to sell some stuffs in their stores (don't ask me what), got married, had many kids, these kids grown up and started to travel around to build stores or looking for jobs/opportunities and ended somehow in very North of Spain, got married, had children.. some of them went to USA and some of them ended here and started farming, selling coffee and milk .
The another part that didn't travel so much is in Serbia (Novi Sad, Kikinda, Nis), Italy (Trieste and Pescara), Romania (Satu Mare, I'm not sure) and Greece (Rhodes Island). Once in week I talk to them, but I have many cousins and relatives that I don't know personally.
All that I know.:)
Maroon King
2011-08-16, 18:02
My maternal grandfather was a Barbacoano born in 1899 who traveled all throughout Colombia and other countries like Brasil. He would come back home and sing Brazilian songs in Portuguese to my mom, aunt and uncles. He married my grandmother a Caucana and had 6 boys and two girls with her. His brother, my grand uncle, migrated to the Caribbean coast of Colombia and had kids with a woman from Monteria who was of Turkish descent; this is how I got tons of cousins from Santa Marta, Barranquilla and Cartagena. Another one of my grandfather's siblings moved to Panama and stayed there and so I have Panamanian cousins I don't know. Another one of my granfather's siblings went up the Pacific coast of Colombia all the way north to the American Pacific coast (California) and remained there and got married to a Mexican I heard; so that's part of the Mexican branch of the family I also don't know. Some of my grandfather's Black aunts remained in Barbacoas and that's part of my predominantly Black family I also don't know. My mother has a brother whose been living in Mexico the later half of his life and I've never met him nor my Mexican born cousin neither. My family has lost contact with a lot of their family because everyone just cares about themselves.
Group photo of maternal great-grandparents and their children, circa 1902, in Russia:
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5627/meirahronsternfamilywit.jpg
center: great-great grandparents, Ahron Meir Stern and Chajah Jonas
If you look carefully, you'll note something: no one in the photo is wearing the Jewish religious cap, the yarmulke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kippah).
Ancestry of Ahron Meir Stern: 13 generations of rabbis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbi ) in Grodno, Belarus.
blank slate
2011-08-21, 07:36
That's a great picture, but the part about someone being murdered is depressing.
My ancestors kicked so much ass that I can't tell you the stories through a forum post because it would consist of so much ass kickery that you would your eyes would disintegrate and your skull would burst in flames and I'm not ready to be filed a law suit against and taken to court, ok?
That's a great picture, but the part about someone being murdered is depressing.
Look at it this way: everyone else survived, because they left Russia before World War II, going to Switzerland, Istanbul, South Africa, Israel, and the United States.
They were very fortunate in comparison to many Jews, and that's also revealed by their attire, which suggests they were affluent.
Sakarisker
2011-08-29, 01:37
I have two ancestors Almogavars captains, Golf and Medina, who fought against Muslims under the leadership of King Jaume I of Aragon in 1240, and were rewarded with lands in the town they conquered.
dbbrainer
2011-08-29, 01:45
Ancient acestry:
Carrion knights were responsible for mounting an assault from a small town in Asturias which started to drive the moors southwards. Acevedo was a Portuguese knight which fought for a King of Spain to reclaim Toledo from Muslims.
Recent Ancestry:
My father is the first Puerto Rican and American BioChemist to successfully control a Quality Control Pharmaceutical Laboratory without any FDA warning in over three years surpassing with a Master's degree what many with double doctorates in Chemical Engineering have yet to achieve. What did I learn from him? Commitment.
My great.great,etc..grandfather attended Trier High School {Rhineland} and was a classmate and friend of Karl Marx....Marx was a prodigy of sorts & was interested in literature ,writing,,etc...
My G,G,Grandfather was a math wizard...One evening {circa 1832} he and some other students were at the home of a professor playing cards{my grandfather was about 14 years old}...Suddenly Marx bursts into the house and announced that the great German writer,biologist,& polymath Johann Wolfgang von Goethe had died and he and the professor went into another room and spent a long time talking about the ramifications of the death of Goethe...while my Grandfather continued playing cards....
My Grandfather hung out with Marx at the University of Bonn later but eventually distanced himself from Marx.....He took a job at a counting house & then studied for the priesthood....the night before he was to be ordained he skipped town and went to Hamburg where he booked passage on a ship & left for America....He followed Marx's carreer in the newspapers and from letters he got from Germany but always insisted that Marx was an assh*le....He married twice and had 12 children....and died at a great age...
haithabu
2011-08-31, 23:06
Human trafficking, 18th century
My grandfather's mother's ancestor was a fellow by the name of Johann Melchior Plank (Blanckenberg). He was a Swiss Anabaptist refugee living in Rotterdam.
One day in 1767 they went to see off some friends who were emigrating to Pennsylvania. After visiting on board the ship for a time, they were about to leave when the captain invited them to stay overnight as the ship would not sail until the morning. When they awoke they found that the ship had already left port. They were taken to Philadelphia against their will, having only the clothes they stood in, and sold there for £22 to pay for their passage. Melchior served 4 1/2 years as an indentured servant and then bought himself clear for £5. A member of the family still has a copy of the indenture, dated 1767.
http://cwcfamily.org/melchior.htm
dbbrainer
2011-08-31, 23:11
My great.great,etc..grandfather attended Trier High School {Rhineland} and was a classmate and friend of Karl Marx....Marx was a prodigy of sorts & was interested in literature ,writing,,etc...
My G,G,Grandfather was a math wizard...One evening {circa 1832} he and some other students were at the home of a professor playing cards{my grandfather was about 14 years old}...Suddenly Marx bursts into the house and announced that the great German writer,biologist,& polymath Johann Wolfgang von Goethe had died and he and the professor went into another room and spent a long time talking about the ramifications of the death of Goethe...while my Grandfather continued playing cards....
My Grandfather hung out with Marx at the University of Bonn later but eventually distanced himself from Marx.....He took a job at a counting house & then studied for the priesthood....the night before he was to be ordained he skipped town and went to Hamburg where he booked passage on a ship & left for America....He followed Marx's carreer in the newspapers and from letters he got from Germany but always insisted that Marx was an assh*le....He married twice and had 12 children....and died at a great age...
Great story!
haithabu
2011-08-31, 23:21
Taking a stand, 19th century
My great great grandfather Jacob Wenger was a Mennonite who lived in Rockingham County, Virginia. He had been a Southern Unionist during the Civil War and his house was a way station for draft dodgers, Unionist refugees and other fugitives from the Confederate government. In 1872 Jacob put in a claim with the Southern Claims Commission for two horses taken by Union forces during the war. His claim was initially rejected because he was enrolled in the Virginia militia for a brief period in 1861. However the Commission reversed its decision, giving the following reasons in its summary:
“[Jacob] testifies that he was one of 11 (in his district) who voted against the Ordinance of Secession. He was arrested and put in the militia, and refused to perform duty and was put in the Guardhouse and could only get out by hiring a substitute. He was afterwards exempted by the laws in relation to Quakers and Dunkards on the payment of a fine. His witnesses testify that he was notoriously loyal and that the rebels said that he ought to be hung; and that his house was a home for refugees.”
One family story relates that when Jacob went to vote in the referendum on secession he was threatened with lynching to keep him from voting against it. He not only ignored the threats, but went so far as to secure an affidavit from the returning officer certifying that he had voted for loyalty to the Union. This piece of paper came in handy when Sheridan’s army came through the Valley in 1864 on its mission of destruction. Each time a detachment of soldiers approached to burn Jacob’s farm he met them with the affidavit in hand and persuaded them to turn away.
My G,G,G,G,Grandfather left France circa 1811/12 and made his way to Denmark in the middle of a very cold winter...A narrow ,long strip of the Baltic seperates Denmark and Sweden...At night,on wooden ice skates.my Grandfather crossed this frozen over straite and lived the rest of his life in Malmo,Sweden...married a Swedish woman and had children....etc...Why he left France remains a mystery...was he a deserter from Napoleon's army who didn't want to march to Russia??? No one knows..
It seems he took his secret to his grave....
CodexVeritas
2011-09-07, 23:04
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cadwallon
2011-09-23, 22:50
One about my direct lineage, I had thought maybe that we left Virginia because we were Loyalists that were forced to leave however it seems that rather my ancestor Robert Reader from Yorkshire might have been an indenture his sons leaving because they did not inherit a plantation:
from a cousin
"On the Internet
in 1997-99 I made contact with other REEDER/READER researchers, many being
cousins, and with some info and leads from them I made contact with some people
in Yorkshire. One of which was a descendant of one of Robert's relatives, and so
had collect Parish Records on the family. This info matched up with what we
knew, especially that Robert and Grace had a son named Robert, who was baptized
in Yorkshire, being born before they left. Another information source was a
"diary", a memoir really, of Nancy Riley Clarke, who married Houton Clarke, son
of Eleanor READER and Stephen CLARKE. She had written down anecdotal accounts
of her READER in-laws, including how our Robert had taken 500 pounds from his
father's account after being refused an early inheritance to leave for America.
This must have come from Eleanor or one of the family writing to Eleanor, as
they left Yorkshire about the same time. In fact, I found on the net a public
newspaper notice from 1770 I think, that Stephan Clarke, a tailor, was a
runaway, having become indentured, presumably for their passage to America, as
many did, and was likely to be found with his brother-in-law, Robert READER, on
the plantation of Sir Peyton! Evidently, they still maintained at least a
partial feudal system before the revolution. Although farmers purchased their
land, it was probably considered as buying a lease, and some annual payment was
still made to the plantation owner."
This is the plantation spoken of: http://www.scalamandre.com/tour/prest/prest.htm
The Prestwould Plantation of Sir Peyton Skipworth.
Also my lineage during the Civil War was indeed Confederate despite that my direct ancestor James Reeder did not serve as he was too young, his brother however did serve and was Confederate and his cousins who moved midwest were arrested for being Confederate sympathizers after protesting Union recruitment attempts.
cadwallon
2011-09-24, 01:14
This is some info about my family while they were in Yorkshire, given the info on it seems Robert III was only an indenture with Stephen Clarke for 4 years since he was recorded as purchasing his own land in 1774 in Mecklenburg Co., VA.
Our earliest known ancestor Robert Reader I:
Robert(I) was a yeoman, meaning a farmer who owned his own land, rather than just a tenant, or a farm laborer. This was one step below the gentry (who owned farm land but did no farm work themselves) His name appears many times in the
manor court rolls of Hatfield between 1660 and 1708. He was a member of a jury on numerous occasions which settled property line disputes.
He was also appointed for at least one term to be the Grave of Stainforth, a position under the lord of the manor equivalent to an overseer or caretaker responsible for the lord's land and property which was rented out to tenant farmers. Robert and Sarah had the following children as mentioned in references to his will in the
manor court rolls: Robert(II), Thomas, William, Susanne, Mary, Grace, Elizabeth, and Sarah.
He passed away in 1708 or before, as there are references to his will and the disposal of property by his heirs, Robert(II) and William, who were to pay a fixed amount to their younger siblings who either married or reached the age of 21.
His son/our ancestor Robert Reader II:
Robert(II)'s wife was probably a Mary HOOTON, as there is an entry in the Whitgift register that she married a READER man there in 1724, nine months before the baptism of Robert(II)'s first child Mary. Also a Robert READER(II?) buried his wife Mary READER in Blacktoft in 1759. Finally, Robert(II)'s daughter Eleanor(married a Stephen CLARK/CLARKE) named one of her sons Houton CLARKE,
presumably after her mother's family. This was quite common. In fact one of Houton's sons was named Reader Wright CLARKE, after the maiden names of his and
his wife's mothers.
The 1880 bio of R.W. CLARKE claims that Stephen CLARKE's mother was "MarybREADER", daughter of "Robert READER" although it also gives Eleanor's maiden name incorrectly as "HOUTON". Was this done to hide the fact that Stephen and Eleanor were first cousins? This is very possible, as R.W. was a Congressman and
politician and that could be seen as political negative.
Houton's wife Nancy wrote a so-called "diary" about 1850 from which we learn a lot about her CLARKE and READER in-laws. Mainly, she mentions that Robert(II) was a farmer and a "church man". In fact a Robert READER is recorded in the Blacktoft parish register of 1765 as one of the two Church Wardens for that year, a lay church officer responsible for the upkeep of the church building and
lands, not unlike his father's position of responsibility to the lord of
Hatfield Manor. Robert(II) signed his name with an X. So much for the theory that our early READER family could read and write!
His son/our ancestor Robert Reader III:
Nancy's diary also speaks of the son Robert(III), Eleanor's brother, who we usually refer to as Robert, Sr. It was he who married Grace BRIGHAM in Blacktoft in 1767 and baptised a son Robert(IV) or Jr. there in 1768 according to the Blacktoft PR. Robert(III) was a clerk for his now elderly father, and therefore managed his financial affairs. Robert(III) wanted to go to America and asked his father for his share of the inheritance, as it was unlikely that he would see his father alive again once they left England. However Robert(II) refused, not wanting his son to leave. There was also possibly some religious differences as well since Robert(II) was such a strong Church of England supporter and we know that the children of Robert(III) were raised Baptist in VA. Possibly Robert(III) had married into a "Nonconformist" family and this caused strife. Anyway, according to Nancy, Robert(III) went to the bank,
withdrew 500 pounds from his father's account and left for America with his family. Robert(II) is said to have commented on this action, "Ah! Bob is a cunning dog."
We know that Robert READER, Sr. paid 40 pounds for his land in Mecklenburg Co., Va in 1774, which was a fairly large sum of money. This comes from a copy of the 1774 deed which my grandfather obtained. He was also named as a neighbor on a 1773 deed, so from the above they must have emmigrated to America between 1768 and 1773.
Civil War:
This is the service record for Andrew Jackson Reeder and Thomas Reeder, brothers of my ancestor James Buchanon Reeder who was too young to fight:
Andrew enlisted in Co. H, 25th Tennessee Infantry on Aug. 5, 1861 at Livingston, Overton Co., TN. He was detailed to wait upon J. P. A. Nelson on Sept. 30, 1862 at the hospital in Campbellsville, Kentucky. Andrew was captured and paroled by the Union Forces, Private Reeder returned to his unit on March 20, 1863. A. J. deserted for good on Dec. 2, 1863 near Knoxville, Private Reeder took the Oath of Allegiance in Morgan County, Tennessee.
Thomas Reeder enlisted in Company H, 25th Tennessee Infantry at age 21on Aug. 5, 1861 at Livingston, Tennessee. He was detailed as a recruiting officer in Jan. and Feb. 1863. Second Corporal Reeder rejoined his unit on March 20, 1863. He deserted on Dec. 2, 1863 and took the Oath of Allegiance on his way through Morgan County, Tennessee.
25th Tennessee Infantry: Organized on August 10, 1861; entered Confederate service October 1, 1861; reorganized May 10, 1862; formed field consolidation with 44th Tennessee Infantry Regiment during November, 1863; the remnant surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse April 9, 1865.
David, was born before 1790 In Mississippi and by 1821 had relocated to the Felicianas in Louisiana territory and married. There he built Beech Grove Plantation, a vast amount of acreage for farming and was a major landowner and slave holder in that part of Louisiana. David Washington writes in his memoirs many years later about being born into and growing up in that large plantation family. He paints a warm and glowing picture of the times and the people and their way of life. I do not know the size of Beech Grove Plantation in the 19th Century, but in 1933 Tax Lists it is stated to be 5262 Acres.
ref: http://www.pipesfamily.com/david_washington_pipes.htm
Strictly speaking he was a cousin of my direct ancestor who lived in the same general vicinity, i.e. Mississippi river, along the region near Natchez.
My Czeck ancestor John Dubrava owned a mill & tavern in Moravia....his oldest of 3 sons was coming soon to draft age for the army of the Austrian Empire...He sold everything in 1860 and took his family to Texas,where they started farming cotton....They hated the heat and made plans to return but the Civil War started & the ports were blockaided...
John instructed his 3 sons to pretend they couldn't speak English when the army recruters came around.....that plan worked and the family harvested their cotton and hid it from the criminal types who preyed on the Czeck immigrants....When the war ended they sold their cotton for gold and moved to Wisconson....to get away from the Texas heat....
His children married mostly German immigrants in Wisconson....
Dubrava means the brave man....but I know nothing about the family tree before 1860....:|
My Czeck ancestor John Dubrava owned a mill & tavern in Moravia....his oldest of 3 sons was coming soon to draft age for the army of the Austrian Empire...He sold everything in 1860 and took his family to Texas,where they started farming cotton....They hated the heat and made plans to return but the Civil War started & the ports were blockaided...
John instructed his 3 sons to pretend they couldn't speak English when the army recruters came around.....that plan worked and the family harvested their cotton and hid it from the criminal types who preyed on the Czeck immigrants....When the war ended they sold their cotton for gold and moved to Wisconson....to get away from the Texas heat....
His children married mostly German immigrants in Wisconson....
Dubrava means the brave man....but I know nothing about the family tree before 1860....:|
it means forest, or woods
I just added three generations to one of my direct lines (through a third cousin who I connected with jointly through Relative Finder and yahoo genealogy group.) Two of my ancestors on this line (a father and son) were both listed as pirates who voyaged out against the Spanish (Cuba).
Maroon King
2011-11-17, 20:04
I just added three generations to one of my direct lines (through a third cousin who I connected with jointly through Relative Finder and yahoo genealogy group.) Two of my ancestors on this line (a father and son) were both listed as pirates who voyaged out against the Spanish (Cuba).
I like your in-depth study of your genealogy. Are they AfroCubans?
I like your in-depth study of your genealogy. Are they AfroCubans?
:) Nope. They have a French surname, but none of the evidence points to them being directly French. They were most likely of Anglo-Norman descent.
Maroon King
2011-11-18, 02:38
:) Nope. They have a French surname, but none of the evidence points to them being directly French. They were most likely of Anglo-Norman descent.
Oh they were of European descent. I thought they were Afrodescendants if so w/ a French surname could had been Haitian, Guadeloupean, etc.
If I only take the three last generations I have one story to tell.
My grandma lived in a small village called Skarviken, with a small amount of people.
There was 12 children in their family and their dad(Anselm) was famous to be the strongest man in the village. He was so strong that he physically beated up 6 people that messed with him once.
A half famous writer wrote that he had the arms of a bear but his injured legs made him weaker so he couldn't stand up straight, but still, he could beat them all.
A guy named Henning Sjöström -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henning_Sjöström
lend some money from Anselm once to start a company, but the company got bankrupt so he couldn't pay it back. Anselm went really mad and he said he was gonna beat up Henning.
So after that day Henning fled from Skarviken and started to study to become a lawyer in the capital, a lot of years after that he went pretty famous. But Anselm never got his money :(
Tuohikirje
2011-11-20, 13:51
In 1671 in Kitka village in Lapland Finland there was a special case in court. Aikkia Aikkianpoika (Aikkia Aikkia’s son) called Shaman was accused of salmon farm peasant son Mordula Tobias's death, who was drowned in salmon dam. What makes the charge peculiar is, that Aikkia was alleged to have caused the death of Tobias Mordula with his shaman drum or ‘death’s fifth toe’. The court stated Aikkia guilty and he was sentenced to death.
Aikkia belonged to Forest Sami Aikio-Sarvi family from Posio. Family Society has published a genealogy book of his offspring and Aikkia’s case in court with details. The book is called ‘Aikkia’s Sons and Daughters’.
:evilgrin:
Lemminkäinen
2011-11-20, 14:02
Swedes were keen in witch hunting and brought it also to Finland.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-20, 14:03
Swedes were keen in witch hunting and brought it also to Finland.
Yes, I will keep that in mind. :p
Lemminkäinen
2011-11-20, 14:12
Yes, I will keep that in mind. :p
They had in Sweden professional interrogators, means inquisitors.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-20, 14:15
They had in Sweden professional interrogators, means inquisitors.
Yes, I know Swedes tried to launch witch hunts in Finland also (and in some cases succeeded), but Finns were not interested. Swedes have allways been hysterical.
My great grandfather's (from father's side) brother was one of the most successful Latvian businessmen during the period of Latvia's first independence.
Lemminkäinen
2011-11-20, 14:49
My great grandfather's (from father's side) brother was one of the most successful Latvian businessmen during the period of Latvia's first independence.
What was his business? Did he or other Latvians emigrated after the war.
What was his business? Did he or other Latvians emigrated after the war.
If I am gonna tell you that you are gonna find out who he was, and he bore my surname, so it is not such a good idea. :D
And yes, the whole side of that family emigrated before the WW II except my great grandfather because he felt really patriotic, he eventually joined forest brothers(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Brothers) and eventually was captured by Soviets and spent 7 years in a prison in Siberia. The whole side of that family was on the deportation list, so that is why they emigrated from Latvia to USA, though as I wrote before, my great grandfather was the only one from that side of the family who stayed, his wife (my great grandmother) with her two children (my aunt and my grandfather) were hiding in different places of Latvia, to escape the deportation.
Lemminkäinen
2011-11-20, 15:07
If I am gonna tell you that you are gonna find out who he was, and he bore my surname, so it is not such a good idea. :D
And yes, the whole side of that family emigrated before the WW II except my great grandfather because he felt really patriotic, he eventually joined forest brothers(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Brothers) and eventually was captured by Soviets and spent 7 years in a prison in Siberia. The whole side of that family was on the deportation list, so that is why they emigrated from Latvia to USA, though as I wrote before, my great grandfather was the only one from that side of the family who stayed, his wife (my great grandmother) with her two children (my aunt and my grandfather) were hiding in different places of Latvia, to escape the deportation.
Many thanks for sharing this :) Finnish TV had sent programs about Estonians Forest-Brothers (metsavennad). All my respect for them who experienced those hard times in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-20, 18:15
Simon Johansson Nurcherus was a vicar in Ostrobothnia Isokyrö Finland in 1587, d. in 1604. Father Johan Nurcka’s ancestry are likely to have come from Karkku parish in the early and middle 16th century. Sastamala Church (Karkku) assigned Nurcka men of the family to sit on a bench number 10 up the main line. Nurcherus was signing the Uppsala Synod's decision in 1593 to approve the Evangelical Lutheran church doctrine in Sweden and Finland.
At Isokyrö’s current location of the parsonage located during the Cudgel War (Nuijasota, Klubbekriget 1596-1597) in Southern Ostrobothnia the dean of the municipality Simon Nurcherus parsonage, where Klaus Eriksson Fleming came with his troops during Santavuori battle in late February 1597. When he left he gave his crown’s soldiers permission (hovman, huovit, Finnish cavalry men) to rob Simon’s house. He told the peasants to tear with their teeth the fireplace wall, because they had threatened him to tear down and distroy the Turku Castle. Huovit, mercenaries were not liked among peasants. Vicar Simon with his family was able to flee the robbing. The extensive damage suffered was compensated to him afterwards.
:lol:
Lemminkäinen
2011-11-20, 18:32
Simon Nurkka was my 10th great grandfather :) Thanks Tuohikirje, I didnt know this story.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-20, 21:38
Ok, this one I want back also.
Solovetsky Monastery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solovetsky_Monastery)
According to museum records nearby monastery land was taken from "5 Karelian 'children'/families"
and there is my forefather, b appx 1550 AD.
My grandfather told me about this place, he have been there and he also told me about the scary stories connected with it.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-20, 21:50
^That's nice to hear.
It must be someone of us haunting there :evilgrin:.
No mercy.
^That's nice to hear.
It must be someone of us haunting there :evilgrin:.
No mercy.
He told me that they told to him that people have really gone missing there, like regular tourists.
Researching articles from old newspapers, I found out that my Latvian great grandmother was married already before she married my Latvian great grandfather. Her first husband was a Russian from Saint Petersburg.
When I first found it out I seriously couldn't believe in it and I was afraid to ask about this to my grandfather. :p
I think that women from that side of the family have a thing for Russian guys, cause all three of her daughters married Russians and btw, my grandfather married a Russian/Jewish girl. :p
Tuohikirje
2011-11-21, 19:23
Researching articles from old newspapers, I found out that my Latvian great grandmother was married already before she married my Latvian great grandfather. Her first husband was a Russian from Saint Petersburg.
When I first found it out I seriously couldn't believe in it and I was afraid to ask about this to my grandfather. :p
I think that women from that side of the family have a thing for Russian guys, cause all three of her daughters married Russians and btw, my grandfather married a Russian/Jewish girl. :p
How do you know he was Russian, if he was from Pietari/St Petersburg (?).
How do you know he was Russian, if he was from Pietari/St Petersburg (?).
There was this article about recent marriages in Riga, and the guy's name was Boris and his surname ended with ov and my grandfather confirmed to me that he was Russian.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-21, 19:44
There was this article about recent marriages in Riga, and the guy's name was Boris and his surname ended with ov and my grandfather confirmed to me that he was Russian.
Ok, but name does not reveal ethnicity from that region...If you have genealogy data then it is another matter.
Ok, but name does not reveal ethnicity from that region...If you have genealogy data then it is another matter.
Oh gosh... he probably was Finnish then.
So, no one can call him/herself, Russian, German, Finnish or French before they have not taken some dna test.. ha ha.
Tuohikirje
2011-11-21, 20:44
Oh gosh... he probably was Finnish then.
So, no one can call him/herself, Russian, German, Finnish or French before they have not taken some dna test.. ha ha.
St Petersburg was quite international, more so than other Russian big cities.
Not any random Russian could have even moved to the city.
Where did I mention Finnish?
If I would have meant Finnic ethnicities, they are not 'Finns'.
Lemminkäinen
2011-11-21, 22:02
I am totally lost with this "she/he is Russian, but not Russian" things. I guess I'll never know what it means and who are Russians.
Ubirajara
2011-11-23, 11:06
I trace my ancestry to Baltazar de Morais de Antas (1535-1600), a settler of very early Brazil (XVI century). 15th generations between me and him.
1st generation Baltazar de Morais de Antas * Mogadouro, Mogadouro, Trás os Montes c. 1535 + Santos, São Vicente c. 1600 c/c Brites Rodrigues Anes
2nd generation Ana de Morais de Antas c/c Pantaleão Pedroso (Pantaleão was the son of Estevão Ribeiro Baião Parente & Madalena Fernandes Feijó de Madureira, they came to Brazil also in the XVI century)
3rd generation geração Maria de Morais c/c Francisco Ribeiro (born in Viana do Castelo, he died in a bandeira in the Guairá, where he made his testament)
4th generation Sebastiana Ribeiro de Morais c/c Vittore Antonio de Castronuovo
5th generation Francesco Ribeiro de Morais c/c Ana Lopes Moreira (daughter of Gaspar Gonçalves Ordonho & Ana Moreira)
6th generation Sebastiana Ribeiro de Morais c/c Gaspar de Godoy de Colaço (son of João de Godói Moreira & Eufémia da Costa Mota)
7th generation Maria Pedroso de Morais c/c João Correia da Silva (great grandson of Amador Bueno, the Acclaimed)
8th generation Escolástica de Morais c/c João da Cunha Ataíde
9th generation Maria Cândida da Cunha Ataíde c/c Francisco Joaquim de Andrade
10th generation Rosa da Cunha Andrade (fazenda do Aquenta Sol, farm of Aquenta Sol) c/c Manoel Caetano Fortunato da Cunha Ataíde
11th generation Teodora da Cunha Andrade c/c Antonio Moreira da Silva Cunha
12th generation Antonio Moreira Junior c/c Eliza Rosa de Barros
13th generation Conceição de Andrade Moreira
14th generation my mother
15th generation me
This is the genealogy of Baltazar de Morais de Antas, it goes back quite a great deal in time (plenty of information on him in the link below):
http://www.buratto.net/doria/AntasMoraes.pdf
jibarodepr
2011-11-25, 19:32
.........
El Andullero
2011-11-25, 19:48
My paternal line (Lozano) has been on the island since the 1580's, as part of the colonial bureaucracy, holding posts like scribe and even "oidor" of the Royal Audience during the 1710's.
My maternal line (Soto) is even older (1510's), and have branches both in Hispaniola and Puerto Rico. During the first century of colonization, they used to carry the aristocratic "De" before the surname, along with some lands, sugar mills and slaves, until the dark times of the French Revolution arrived into the Caribbean.
jibarodepr
2011-11-25, 19:52
My maternal line (Soto) is even older (1510's), and have branches both in Hispaniola and Puerto Rico.Yes, they are common in San Sebastian and San German.
snowwhite
2011-11-25, 20:57
My family doesn't have any stories that have been passed down, at least not that I know of. Some of my ancestors are talked about a bit in the Arquivo dos Açores (Archive of the Azores), but that's it.
From my Finland Swedish side my relatives can be traced back to Estonian Swedes. That's basically the only thing I know about some of my ancestors.
Huckleberry Finn
2011-11-25, 21:13
From my Finland Swedish side my relatives can be traced back to Estonian Swedes. That's basically the only thing I know about some of my ancestors.
If you ever have a possibility you should visit Runö i.e. Ruhnu in the Bay of Riga. The old wooden church they still have there is marvellous, it is one of the oldest wooden buildings in the whole Baltic area and it was indeed built by the coastal swedes in the early 17th century.
On my Ostrobothnian Finnish-Finland-Swedish grandmother's side, I descend from a Johann Gottlieb Werner. Born somewhere in the 18th century. Supposedly, he and eventually all the other German Werner colonialists seemed to have spread their genes and surname fairly good, as over 3 000 persons in Sweden have the surname today. Grandmother had it as maiden name, and my parents adore it and brag to others about how they could change to it.
My Russian great grandmother's family lived in Latvia since the 17th century. Her family belongs to the church of Old Believers or Staroveri. There were a lot of Old Believers escaping Russia at time due to the reformations that led to persecution and murders of many Old Believers.
It is a little bit weird to be conscious of this side of me, because in my heart I am 100% Latvian. But I still respect it. I think it is so interesting that my 1/8 Russian side has deep roots in Latvia (since the 17th century). And the fact that surprises me the most is that my great grandmother spoke Latvian with my mother and me and that was really rare for those times.
Anyways, here is some interesting information on Old Believers in Latvia:
http://allaboutlatvia.com/article/13/old-believers-in-latvia/
And here is some information on Old Believers generally:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers
The time is the mid 1800's, the US had just won the US/Mexican war two years prior. In a small town in Sonora, Mexico, VERY near the area that the bandito Joaquin Murrieta (Zorro modeled after him)was born at, a young Mexican boy barely 15 yrs. old sought to travel into what was essentuially "occupied" territory to seek his fortune in the 1849 Gold rush of Alta California. He left heading north, traveling along the treacheras "Camino del Diablo" accross the desert along the "Anza Trail" into the Los Angeles basin and up the coast to the ripe and rich gold fields of California. We find him in the special US census of 1852 near the Chinese camp area in parts today known as the town of Sonora, CA. He apparently, made some fortunes, as we find him buying cattle to start a ranch/ Us homestead near the beautiful Ca coast a few yrs later.
I only know a part of my mother ancestry that my G-G-G-Grandfather is French from Southern France (Puylaurens, Tarn (Department), Midi-Pyrenees (Region), Castres (District)), He went to the Philippines during 1800s and had a wine distillery shop in Manila. I don't know how he met my G-G-G-Grandmother who belongs to Spanish Mestiza (b1824-d1892) and they got 2 sons.
1st eldest son - b1856-d1933 (My G-G-Grandfather) had hacienda or sugar farm and a Mestiza (b1867-d1932) housewife & they got 7 children (4 boys & 3 girls) & one of the boys is my G-Grandfather.
2nd youngest son - b1860-d1941 had a sugar mill and married a Mestiza too. they got 5 children, they also run a family hospital during late 1800's till early 1900's.
Both the sugar mill & farm connected to each other but 2 brothers had a serious argument until the eldest son decided to change the last letter of his surname because of family issues. so both of their descendants living in harmony, recent generation were trying to pick up the pieces and tried to reconcile & get to know each other.
I mean sugar cane farm, The Sugar Mill was the smallest sugar mills in the Philippines because of the absence of large sugar cane haciendas in the town where it was situated. It was sold during 1930's
Ubirajara
2012-03-04, 20:17
I'm a descendant of Amador Bueno, he was proclaimed King in São Paulo in the XVII century, but refused taking the crown!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Amadorbuenoderibeira.jpg
Amador Bueno de Ribeira, dito O Aclamado, (c. 1584 — c. 1649) um paulista que o povo aclamou rei em São Paulo. Eram os mesmos revoltosos de 1641 (no que se conheceu popularmente como Botada dos padres fora, por dirigir-se contra os jesuítas). O mesmo espírito de rebelião se respirava nos dois movimentos ou impulsos populares
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amador_Bueno
The acclaiming of Amador Bueno, according to a 1931 painting:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Oscar_Pereira_da_Silva_-_1931_-_Aclama%C3%A7%C3%A3o_de_Amador_Bueno.jpg
brainblaster456
2012-03-07, 14:44
my ancestor's history officially starts just after advent of islam in the location known as Nothern somalia where a arab man from the hashimi tribe of what is today known as Saudi arabia (same tribe as prophet muhammed). his name was sheikh ishaaq (son of) ahmed (descendent of) the quraysh tribe. he arrived at somali lands during the 12th century through a coastal village called maydh (today in un-recognized state of somaliland). he was part of a muslim missionary during the time. later he decided to settle there, in his lifetime married two of the local women. the first wife was ethnic somali her name was habar magaadle (ethnic somali) and was from the dir clan, she bore four sons awal, garhajis, ayub, arap. the second wife was ethnic oromo her name was xabuusheed (ethnic habesha), she toljeclo, abu bakr, imraan but and also had a nubian slave boy named ibrahim (sanbuur). later sheikh ishaaq died and was buried in the same village of (maydh).
together this tribes population in somalia today is according to CIA report is 22% around 3-4 million people and is the 2nd biggest tribe in somalia. :cool: :thumbsup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaaq
Majokiuy
2012-03-07, 16:00
I've just now discovered that I descend from this guy.
I've made a major breakthrough and have now gone back to the 1400s-1500s.
All because some guy I'm related to has now started researching our line too. I wish more people did their genealogy - it really, really helps. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Stanley,_1st_Earl_of_Derby
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Thomas-Stanley-1st-Earl-of-Derby.jpg
Ubirajara
2012-03-07, 16:37
This is the testament of an ancestor of mine, from the XVIII century, his family name was passed down till my mother:
http://i39.tinypic.com/30253tj.jpg
He is buried in this chapel from that time (a common practice at that time, farms - fazendas - used to have their own chapels):
http://i41.tinypic.com/x5sepw.jpg
my ancestor's history officially starts just after advent of islam in the location known as Nothern somalia where a arab man from the hashimi tribe of what is today known as Saudi arabia (same tribe as prophet muhammed). his name was sheikh ishaaq (son of) ahmed (descendent of) the quraysh tribe. he arrived at somali lands during the 12th century through a coastal village called maydh (today in un-recognized state of somaliland). he was part of a muslim missionary during the time. later he decided to settle there, in his lifetime married two of the local women. the first wife was ethnic somali her name was habar magaadle (ethnic somali) and was from the dir clan, she bore four sons awal, garhajis, ayub, arap. the second wife was ethnic oromo her name was xabuusheed (ethnic habesha), she toljeclo, abu bakr, imraan but and also had a nubian slave boy named ibrahim (sanbuur). later sheikh ishaaq died and was buried in the same village of (maydh).
together this tribes population in somalia today is according to CIA report is 22% around 3-4 million people and is the 2nd biggest tribe in somalia. :cool: :thumbsup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaaq
Cool, do you also maybe know something about your Swedish side? like names and what village/ city they lived in? just curious :)
brainblaster456
2012-03-13, 19:59
Cool, do you also maybe know something about your Swedish side? like names and what village/ city they lived in? just curious :)
i just was just born and raised in sweden:D
Ubirajara
2012-06-12, 19:11
My ggggfather on the paternal line death record document (he arrived in Brazil in 1845). I have no other ancestor who arrived here that late.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2czblad.png
blank slate
2012-06-21, 07:29
Tonight, I saw that my dad got a 25-marker match on FTDNA. Turns out it's someone who has the same exact surname as me, with U152, and everything.
This person seems to work as a genealogist in a library in the Midwest, and seems to have traced the line from a family of Lutheran settlers from Pfalz, Germany? I've emailed the person about it to be sure.
If it's correct, I'm not really sure how I feel about this. It would mean I've possibly screwed up about 10 years worth of genealogy research. Granted I could never trace it with 100% certainty (who really can?), I'd always assumed the line originated in England. Oh well.
amerinese
2012-06-21, 07:42
I would make sure they actually have the Y-DNA traced back to Germany or a German immigrant.
There's a family of guys with my Y-DNA and a different surname who think their line is from Ireland. They ignore the fact that their ancestor from the early 1700's had an English step-father with the exact same Y-DNA. LOL what a coincidence, I wonder how that happened. These people match me with a very small distance at 67 markers, and our more distant matches are either English or Australian of English origin. Then there's botched parentage on another paternal ancestor of mine in the Mormon records. His supposed father has the surname, a common one, but all other lines of that guy are a different haplogroup entirely. Y-DNA findings often obliterate invalid paper records, but traditional genealogists aren't quick to acknowledge them.
blank slate
2012-06-21, 07:57
I would make sure they actually have the Y-DNA traced back to Germany or a German immigrant.
There's a family of guys with my Y-DNA and a different surname who think their line is from Ireland. They ignore the fact that their ancestor from the early 1700's had an English step-father with the exact same Y-DNA. LOL what a coincidence, I wonder how that happened. These people match me with a very small distance at 67 markers, and our more distant matches are either English or Australian of English origin. Then there's botched parentage on another paternal ancestor of mine in the Mormon records. His supposed father has the surname, a common one, but all other lines of that guy are a different haplogroup entirely. Y-DNA findings often obliterate invalid paper records, but traditional genealogists aren't quick to acknowledge them.
You're definitely right about this part. There are actually genealogy enthusiasts in the family who are still assuming our line originated from a prominent Welsh progenitor of the name. DNA totally blew that theory out of the water, though.
A few years ago, a very nice man in Wales with the surname, who has very thorough familial and paper ties to the progenitor, agreed to take a Y-dna test for the FTNA project. We don't even match him at the 12-marker level. It was a total fail. And yet I still see our supposed tie to that family on genealogy websites.
Anyway, I have to investigate further, but it's possible the person could be right. There were about 3 or 4 totally unrelated lines with the same surname....but some of them even lived in the same counties. Seems the Lutheran line, and the Anglican line were living in the same county in Kentucky at some point. It's very easy to get confused. Maybe that person got the lines mixed up somewhere, and maybe I did. Hopefully I'll find out.
Vampire slayers that were slayed by Dracula's minions in the netherworld. Repulsed by their bad breath and unsanitary tendencies of peeing on brimstone rather than in the stalls, Lucifer kicked them out of Hell and forbid them from his kingdom of blackened majesty. But God rejected them, too, so they drowned themselves in the river Styx and their spirits crossed parallel dimensions and embodied my ancestors in the present dimension.
Maroon King
2012-06-21, 18:07
^ wth :|
jibarodepr
2012-06-21, 18:16
^ wth :|He is bored and he is just trolling
caspergeer
2012-08-28, 04:44
it appears we have a common family member, Charles Lidddle was my mothers great grand father, Andrew was her grand father.
Family member:
Defense Superior Service Medal:
Major General --------------, United States Air Force Reserve,
distinguished himself by exceptionally superior service while serving as
--------- to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for Reserve Matters
from ------- to --------. General ---------' contributions during this tour
of duty were substantial, enduring, and vitally important to the integration
of all reserve components into the Total Force. His expert grasp of Reserve
capabilities and insightful analyses significantly contributed to the
successful deployment and utilization of Reserve forces in support of
Operations NOBLE EAGLE, ENDURING FREEDOM, and IRAQI FREEDOM. General --------
was instrumental in ensuring that all Reserve leadership was kept abreast of
emerging issues related to the War on Terrorism. His expert advice on
critical issues to senior officials in the Department of Defense regarding
the Reserve components as they transformed from a Strategic Reserve to an
operational force supporting the War on Terrorism was key to the advancement
and execution of seamless operations. General --------' superlative direction
and leadership drove the implementation of the recommendations of the
Commission of the National Guard and Reserve, the adoption of the Reserve
Component Joint Officer Management system, enhancements to the Reserve
Engagement Program, the normalization of Reserve Component issues across the
Joint Staff and the delivery of the Reserve message throughout the
Department of Defense. The singularly distinctive accomplishments of Major
General -------- culminate a long and distinguished career in the service of
his country and reflect great credit upon himself, the United States Air
Force Reserves, and the Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Recently found out that two of my great grandfathers served at the same military base in 1930s located in the town were I actually study/live at the moment. Now I wonder did they actually know each other and what was the situation with Latvians and Russians serving there, because one of them was Russian while the other one Latvian. I have visited that base severally and it's really, really spooky because nothing really happens there.
My current goal is to find out more about the time that they spent there, hopefully the archives will be available.
This one ancestor... a bear stole half his head, but luckily he was just visited by this very famous writer, whose name just escapes my memory. You may ask why was it lucky? Well everybody should know that writers & pianists alike have very long & narrow fingers, good for sowing mittens as well as well as splintered flesh. I know also some batshit crazy stories but I dare not share them. Ladies will pee themselves.
Two brothers, one of them was my great-great-great+ grandfather, they took out some Ottoman official and had to flee and hide. They changed names..
Today I got a message from a cousin on RF...
"It seems we share Edward Eliot (b. abt 1546) and Jane Gedge (b. abt. 1546.) I am related to them through their son, Bennet Eliot (b. abt. 1573.) Edward's grandson, Bennet's son, John, attended Cambridge University and become the "Apostle to the Indians" and helped found Roxbury Latin school in Massachusetts."
Edit: link was the wrong person :)
My great grandfather was from North Somalia where he was part of the British Somaliland Camel Corps. This corps was involved in the East Africa campaign during World War II against Italians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Campaign_%28World_War_II%29
Below is a video of the corps to give an idea although he is not in it and the commentator is annoying:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8BLr9X-EWQ
blank slate
2012-11-11, 06:12
Tonight, I saw that my dad got a 25-marker match on FTDNA. Turns out it's someone who has the same exact surname as me, with U152, and everything.
This person seems to work as a genealogist in a library in the Midwest, and seems to have traced the line from a family of Lutheran settlers from Pfalz, Germany? I've emailed the person about it to be sure.
If it's correct, I'm not really sure how I feel about this. It would mean I've possibly screwed up about 10 years worth of genealogy research. Granted I could never trace it with 100% certainty (who really can?), I'd always assumed the line originated in England. Oh well.
I don't know why I'm updating on this, but it turns out I was correct all along, and that other person is mistaken.
My dad has a 25-marker match with someone of the same surname in Australia, who has his ancestry traced back to England in the 1800s. It reinforces what I'd previously thought.
Had a bit of a scare a few months ago that my research has been wrong, but now it's all over with.
yahooland
2012-11-11, 11:55
I don't know why I'm updating on this, but it turns out I was correct all along, and that other person is mistaken.
My dad has a 25-marker match with someone of the same surname in Australia, who has his ancestry traced back to England in the 1800s. It reinforces what I'd previously thought.
Had a bit of a scare a few months ago that my research has been wrong, but now it's all over with.
maybe your ancestor came from germany to england in the 1700s ;)
In the 19th century Argentina was ruled by war lords who had lots of children, both within and outside their marriages. Apparently, one of this war lords is my G-G-G-G-grandparent. He was a general, Facundo Quiroga, a.k.a. the tiger of the planes. My G-grandmother was the last one in my family to carry the surname Quiroga. This is what you can read about him in wikipedia:
"Quiroga was born in San Antonio, La Rioja, the son of a traditional but impoverished Riojan family of cattle breeders. He was sent at a young age to San Juan to be educated. Early in his life, he became a problem child, and escaped from school. During his wandering in the desert between San Juan and La Rioja, he encountered and successfully killed a Cougar, thus earning him the nickname El Tigre de los Llanos ("the Tiger of the Plains", after the Riojan region of birth).
After the May Revolution proclaimed the self-rule of the country, Quiroga tried to enter the independentist army, and with this in mind, he travelled to San Luis to enter the Granaderos a Caballo Regiment, led by General José de San Martín, which was recruiting there, but he was imprisoned and eventually expelled due to his bad temper.
He moved back to La Rioja and became a businessman, until 1820, when the central government of Buenos Aires fell and the province became autonomous.
Quiroga entered the provincial army and quickly rose to its command, gaining control of the government through his charisma. During the time of the Constitutional Congress of 1824, Quiroga led its forces through the Andean provinces to oppose the centralist tendencies of President Bernardino Rivadavia and the officers of the National Army, which were carrying away a compulsory levy for the upcoming Cisplatine War (1825–1827). Thus, under the flag of Religión o Muerte (Religion or Death), he overthrew the centralist government of San Juan shortly after the central government signed a treaty with Britain by which religious freedom was established.
After the Cisplatine war, the officers of the returning army (of centralist tendencies, known as unitarios) deposed the federalist governments in an attempt to restore the centralised rule of Buenos Aires. General José María Paz took over its province of Córdoba and his officers campaigned through the interior provinces. Quiroga tried to oppose them, but without success, and after defeat in the Battle of La Tablada, he went into self-imposed exile in Buenos Aires. From there, where the coup was quickly defeated, Quiroga led an army towards Córdoba but was defeated in the Battle of Oncativo by Paz's more disciplined forces. Quiroga decided not to give up and tried a more ambitious attempt, marching through territories still occupied by native aboriginals, in order to bypass Córdoba, and attack directly Mendoza, where it succeeded. He took his campaign north along the Andean provinces, until he finally defeated General Gregorio Aráoz de Lamadrid, who led the last remaining unitary forces, in Salta.
After the war, Quiroga established himself as one of the leaders of federalism in Argentina (along with Juan Manuel de Rosas and the caudillo of Santa Fe, Estanislao López), although he declared in his correspondence with Rosas that his ideas were in fact unitarian, but that he became a champion of federalism because people wanted federalism.
In 1834, Quiroga was appointed by the governor of Buenos Aires (and Representative of Foreign Relations of the Argentine Confederation) Manuel Vicente Maza to mediate between the governors of Tucumán and Salta, but Salta governor De la Torre died before Quiroga could arrive. He was advised that there were plans to murder him on his way back, but Quiroga, disregarding the advice, returned to Buenos Aires through the same way. At Barranca Yaco, a desolated place between Córdoba and Santiago del Estero, a party of gunmen stopped the carriage in which he travelled. Quiroga, confident in his charisma and that his mere presence and resolution would discourage the attackers, appeared through the carriage door and shouted at the gunmen, frightening most of them. Their leader, Santos Pérez, however, shot him dead.
The political crime created a huge crisis in all the Confederation, forcing Maza to resign, and led to the establishment of Rosas' government. Rosas, as the Confederation leader, led the criminal investigation that ended with the prosecution of the governor of Córdoba José Vicente Reinafé, and his brother as the intellectual perpetrators of the crime. They were hanged along with Santos Pérez in Buenos Aires.
In 1845, Domingo F. Sarmiento wrote Facundo, Civilization and Barbarism, a book that reviews the influence of caudillo leaders, which he defines as "barbarism", in the Argentine political and social life, but also as a protest to Rosas' regime, and a call for European education and life style. However, Sarmiento told José María Paz that the book contained deliberate inaccuracies, for political reasons.[1] Years after the fall of Rosas, he warned the historian José María Ramos Mejía against using his own writings or other Unitarian pamphlets as impartial documents, as they were laden with political bias.[1]"
chuckynoris
2012-11-11, 12:13
what would our descendants be saying about us??? My great grandad got the All time high score for Temple Run in 2012? Lol
Nice stories ,btw
yahooland
2012-11-11, 12:22
what would our descendants be saying about us??? My great grandad got the All time high score for Temple Run in 2012? Lol
Nice stories ,btw
that's badass yo !
Ubirajara
2012-11-13, 22:56
I found this today, it was published in a local newspaper in 1874 (which has been made available at the web), my great great grandfather (the grandfather of my paternal grandmother, and the father of the man in my avatar, my great grandfather) published a reward for anyone who captured a slave who had run away:
http://i45.tinypic.com/1zx9snk.jpg
I've just sent it to my father, my gggfather lived in a relatively large farm, and he was known as João "cabeludo", John "the hairy".
jibarodepr
2012-11-14, 04:46
Also by my mom's maternal side my great-grandpa who is of surnames Ramos-Martel seems to be of French ancestry, he was mulatto maybe descendant of French African slaves?
rhiannon
2012-11-14, 05:06
From Wiki:
Battle of Saratoga from the American Revolutionary War
The Battles of Saratoga (September 19 and October 7, 1777) conclusively decided the fate of British General John Burgoyne's army in the American War of Independence and are generally regarded as a turning point in the war. The battles were fought eighteen days apart on the same ground, 9 miles (14 km) south of Saratoga, New York. Burgoyne's campaign to divide New England from the southern colonies had started well, but slowed due to logistical problems. He won a small tactical victory over General Horatio Gates and the Continental Army in the September 19 Battle of Freeman's Farm at the cost of significant casualties. His gains were erased when he again attacked the Americans in the October 7 Battle of Bemis Heights and the Americans captured a portion of the British defenses. Burgoyne was therefore compelled to retreat, and his army was surrounded by the much larger American force at Saratoga, forcing him to surrender on October 17. News of Burgoyne's surrender was instrumental in formally bringing France into the war as an American ally, although it had previously given supplies, ammunition and guns, notably the de Valliere cannon, which played an important role in Saratoga.[8] Formal participation by France changed the war to a global conflict. This battle also resulted in Spain contributing to the war on the American side.
The first battle, on September 19, began when Burgoyne moved some of his troops in an attempt to flank the entrenched American position on Bemis Heights. Benedict Arnold, anticipating the maneuver, placed significant forces in his way. While Burgoyne succeeded in gaining control of Freeman's Farm, it came at the cost of significant casualties. Skirmishing continued in the days following the battle, while Burgoyne waited in the hope that reinforcements would arrive from New York City. Militia forces continued to arrive, swelling the size of the American army. Disputes within the American camp led Gates to strip Arnold of his command.
Concurrently with the first battle, American troops also attacked British positions in the area of Fort Ticonderoga, and bombarded the fort for a few days before withdrawing. British General Sir Henry Clinton, in an attempt to divert American attention from Burgoyne, captured American forts in the Hudson River highlands on October 6, but his efforts were too late to help Burgoyne. Burgoyne attacked Bemis Heights again on October 7 after it became apparent he would not receive relieving aid in time. In heavy fighting, marked by Arnold's spirited rallying of the American troops (in open defiance of orders to stay off the battlefield), Burgoyne's forces were thrown back to the positions they held before the September 19 battle and the Americans captured a portion of the entrenched British defenses.
My ancestor that played a rather large part of this whole mess?
None other than General John Burgoyne himself..
I wish I had something to say about my ancestors but I do not know much of it. I will need to ask my parents and grandparents about our ancestors history.
searching
2012-12-29, 11:10
Here's an article I found on my ancestors from my paternal side.
Tales from a mixed Mobile 02/24/02
By RHODA A. PICKETT
Staff Reporter
Luis Durette, a French soldier, came to Mobile and married a mulatto woman named Isabella. During Spanish occupation, it was legal for French and Spanish settlers to marry women of color. The couple had 10 children.
Because of Durette's meritorious service to the Spanish army, he was awarded large tracts of land all around what is today Royal Street.
The couple reared their children in a house that once stood behind Fort Condé.
Butler said that since she learned of her connection to Mobile's past, walking around downtown today is not the same experience it was when she was a child.
"I went on a Mobile historical society tour and around Fort Condé, I got the strangest feeling," she said. "I could feel the presence of my ancestors. It was an indescribable feeling.
"Walking through the downtown area feels different to me," Butler said. "I wonder if I'm walking in a path my ancestors once took, or if I'm standing on ground where my ancestors once lived."
Full Article
http://www.al.com/specialreport/mobileregister/tri-02-24-11.html
blank slate
2013-01-12, 06:49
This one ancestor... a bear stole half his head, but luckily he was just visited by this very famous writer, whose name just escapes my memory. You may ask why was it lucky? Well everybody should know that writers & pianists alike have very long & narrow fingers, good for sowing mittens as well as well as splintered flesh. I know also some batshit crazy stories but I dare not share them. Ladies will pee themselves.
Best post of the thread, hands down.
Thanks to some improvements to ancestry.com that make the site easier to navigate, I was able to find out that my grandmother's birth surname was, in fact, German. And they came to the US from Germany relatively recently (post-1800), compared to my dad's other colonial ancestry. So I guess that settles that. Adds more to my American mutt gumbo mix.
TheJourney
2013-01-20, 14:06
Hmmmm...
Most of my family were merchants and small landowners, the most famous thing any of my ancestors to do was to participate in Bosnian Divan council in 1700s, so there are not that many interesting stories there.
But I dated a guy for 9 months whose ancestor with Shiite affiliations (https://www.google.ba/search?q=muhamed+had%C5%BEijamakovi%C4%87&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) disbanded the institutions of Bosnian Republic in 1877 in favor of a theocratic monarchy and proclaimed himself the "High Imam" of Bosnia, he ruled as the High Imam for entire 10 months before he and most of his family were butchered by Austrians as "symbols of old ways".
There are a LOT of legends among old people about sack of Jamaktabija (the seat of their family), word tabija can be translated as Hold or Fort.
One of my ancestors, from my mother's side:
About Hugh Hugh Pethein (Peden)
On April 29, 1611, Hugh Pethein was retoured heir of his father, Alexander Pethein, in Sorn in the half-merk lands of Auchenlonfuird within the lands of Bruntishiells and Lairdship, and regality of Kylesmuir. (from the Inquistiones Generales, Ayr, No. 176).
Hugh suffered martydom, and was shot by orders of Claverhouse, while standing by St. Mary's Loch.
ghostface
2013-01-22, 00:46
My ancestor that played a rather large part of this whole mess?
None other than General John Burgoyne himself..
your joking right? he went back to Great Britain, how and when did that line end up in America? Just seems crazy that of all British officers you as an America would be descended from was none other then the one who surrendered his army at Saratoga
kustaren
2013-01-22, 02:20
One of my northern swedish ancestors, Fältjägare (Rifleman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifleman#Sweden)) Olof Andreas Eriksson And suffered the following fate in the mid 1800's, based on his son's account:
Since Sweden was at peace for most of the 1800's, soldiers were often times able to take part-time employment from locals. Rifleman And was hired by a local farmer to dig a well in a neighbouring village. One saturday morning, he set off towards the village with a shovel in his hand and his dog by his side. After spending a large part of the day digging the well, with the evening approaching (5 pm-ish), the soil he had dug up fell down upon him and buried him. His dog started barking, attracting the attention of the locals who tried to rescue him, but were soon enough forced to stop working and leave him be since the sabbath had come (6 pm). Anyone who worked during the sabbath would be named to the church as a no-good non-christian. The person would then be fined for his/her heretical behaviour and forced to sit at a special place (reserved for sinners) in the church on the sabbath morning, not to mention having to live with having crossed "the will of the lord".
The dog kept barking and digging all night, and the next day my ancestor was found to have been 60cm (~23 inches) away from freedom when he stopped digging due to lack of oxygen. According to Rifleman And's son, the church's records (stating that the accident occured on monday, following the sabbath) were wrong. After And's death, his wife and some of his non-adult children were evicted from the state's soldattorp (http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldattorp) (Soldier's cottage) and forced to live in poverty.
Just goes to show how destructive superstition and religious dogma can be.
I have posted on this thread before regarding one of my mother's ancestors. On my father's side, his grandfather emigrated from Italy around the turn of the last century. He was a stone mason and, among other things, he made statues and grottoes for the local Italian church. His propensity for cursing was supposedly legendary. Anyway, the story goes that it was not beneath him to curse when he made a mistake while creating his statues and grottoes around the church grounds. I am sure he made more than a few eyebrows raise with that behavior! I saw pictures of his work; they put them on postcards back in those days. It was really quite beautiful. Alas, the church was demolished years ago in the name of urban renewal. All that is left are stories and memories.
Otto Prohaska
2013-02-17, 20:53
My grandfather was raised by his grandfather, a hard, scrappy man who never knew his own father due to the fact that he was killed in the War Between the States. He was wounded in the fighting at Cumberland Gap and was taken to the hospital at Duffield, VA to die.
When his wife, nine months pregnant with my great-great grandfather, was notified of his imminent demise, she saddled a horse and rode 30 miles through the mountains to be with him and ease his passing. When he died, she buried him there at Duffield and rode her horse the 30 miles back home. She gave birth to my g-g-grandfather immediately upon her return.
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Here's another one.
The Draper Manuscripts are a collection of first-hand accounts of life on the early American frontier. There's a story about one of my ancestors in there that was told to Lyman Draper by none other than the famed Daniel Boone.
Boone related the story of my ancestor, Lewis Green, who was one of his companions on long-hunting expeditions into the trans-Allegheny frontier.
On one expedition, Green shot a bear, but the wound was not fatal, and the bear mauled him badly. He lost an eye and was so badly wounded that his companions assumed he could not recover.
With winter coming on, they decided to gather their bounty and return to civilization. They left Green for dead, intending to return and bury him when the spring thaw came. After they left, he recovered enough strength to gather together a bunch of turkey feathers left over from the hunt to make himself a bed, and he subsisted through the winter on scraps of meat that were left behind.
In the spring, his companions went out to find his body and bury it, but to their surprise they encountered him walking back to the fort. He lived for many years afterward.
When his wife, nine months pregnant with my great-great grandfather, was notified of his imminent demise, she saddled a horse and rode 30 miles through the mountains to be with him and ease his passing. When he died, she buried him there at Duffield and rode her horse the 30 miles back home. She gave birth to my g-g-grandfather immediately upon her return.
I can imagine how my grandmother would say if she heard this story.. now that's a real woman.
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