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Everyone is saying Ashkenazi Jews have middle eastern ancestry. How can they be middle eastern if they look nothing like middle easterners????????!!!!!!! What I mean is, I am half ashkenazi jewish, half western/northern european, and apparently I look Central European, and not middle eastern. So how can I have middle eastern ancestry?????????
Because your ancestors came from the Holy Land, went to Europe, mixed with Europeans, and the end result was your people being of mixed Middle Eastern and European descent?
DNA doesn't lie. Just as Finns are of Asiatic origin, you're of Middle Eastern origin.
Because your ancestors came from the Holy Land, went to Europe, mixed with Europeans, and the end result was your people being of mixed Middle Eastern and European descent?
DNA doesn't lie. Just as Finns are of Asiatic origin, you're of Middle Eastern origin.
About what percent of their dna is middle eastern and what percent is european?
Depends on the Jewry. Not all Ashkenazim are the same.
Pallantides
2010-12-26, 21:22
Because your ancestors came from the Holy Land, went to Europe, mixed with Europeans, and the end result was your people being of mixed Middle Eastern and European descent?
DNA doesn't lie. Just as Finns are of Asiatic origin, you're of Middle Eastern origin.
Yes becuase being 96% North European and having 4% Siberian admixture makes someone of Asiatic origin.
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bulk of their ancestors are Europeans either way.
Here are some of my full Ashkenazic Relatives , Do they rlly look middle eastern or more Eastern European?
Here are some of my full Ashkenazic Relatives , Do they rlly look middle eastern or more Eastern European?
They dont look middle eastern, they look mostly European or Eastern European, like most Ashkenazi jews do.
Humanist
2010-12-26, 21:32
Here is a photo of me as a child. I am the least European(based on 23andMe genome-wide %s) Assyrian.
Phenotypes are not always reliable indicators of ancestry. Particularly for groups with histories of endogamy, such as Jews and Assyrians.
Stop trolling.
Ashkenazi Jews are Western Asians from Palestine/Anatolia mixed with Europeans.
What's the problem?
I'm sure there are Lebanese or Turks who look like these people you featured.
Who said Ashkenazis were pure West Asians? Nobody.
Even us Sephardic Jews have SouthEuropean admix at high degrees.
Stop trolling.
Ashkenazi Jews are Western Asians from Palestine/Anatolia mixed with Europeans.
What's the problem?
I'm sure there are Lebanese or Turks who look like these people you featured.
Ive never met any lebanese or turks who looked like them.
ChechenRebelZ
2010-12-26, 21:50
Who said Ashkenazis were pure West Asians? Nobody.
Even us Sephard Jews have SouthEuropean admix at high degrees.What percentages of West Asian and South European?
Wickedgirl
2010-12-26, 21:51
oh my god...not another "my ethnic group isn't this, it's totally European!" thread:whoco:
Ive never met any lebanese or turks who looked like them.
So you say.
I said Western Asian mixed with European, not "pure" Western Asian.
So you say.
I said Western Asian mixed with European, not "pure" Western Asian.
That makes a lot more sense.
What percentages of West Asian and South European?
Much like Greek Cypriots. sometimes higher , sometimes lesser , look up on genetic studies.
ChechenRebelZ
2010-12-26, 22:14
Much like Greek Cypriots. sometimes higher , sometimes lesser , look up on genetic studies.Citation?
How about you volunteer us the West Asian and South European values that you received if you participated in Dienekes Dodecad Project?
7eleven, difficult to define because theres various phenotypes prevalent in the middle east. Ashkenazi Jews have some middle eastern ancestry but it's very heavily diluted, but keep in mind that Ashkenazi is not specific to a "racial" or "genetic" group but simply defines a Jew of the specific region and culture they are from. There are a lot of Sephardic Jews that intermarried with Ashkenazi and adapted Ashkenazi culture.
A lot of the Ashkenazi took on Germanic names during the time they settled and no surprise that with many many years of living amongst the population, appearances are going to change especially with mixing.
I've seen Ashkenazi that look Sephardic and I've seen Sephardic that look Ashkenazi.
I know Persian Jews who have a white skin and blue eyes and blonde hair and their brothers or sisters are darker so features can vary.
Doctoris Scientia
2010-12-26, 22:40
Who said Ashkenazis were pure West Asians? Nobody.
Even us Sephardic Jews have SouthEuropean admix at high degrees.
I didn't know you were Jewish. are you 100%?
Particula
2011-01-05, 04:48
if youmix those lebanese with those europeans you get people similar to akhkenazims
Citation?
How about you volunteer us the West Asian and South European values that you received if you participated in Dienekes Dodecad Project?
Citation : genetic map:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TR8ox_MI6qI/AAAAAAAADIE/zEcyBpR0U8s/s1600/MDS1600.png SJ/MOJ references.
if youmix those lebanese with those europeans you get people similar to akhkenazims
Or Mix some lebanese with some italians or greeks , you get similar to sephardim. Though randomly those three persons easily fit in the range .
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