Famous R1a People

[Unome]

Do you know of any??

[alfieb]

Anderson Cooper.

[Day Tripper]

Tony Trubetsky (Estonian musician), Somerled (Scottish warrior), and Anderson Cooper as mentioned, according to Wikipedia.

[Unome]

We need some more famous R1a people! This is an open declaration!

Get inventing and conquering and shit…

[alfieb]

Too many R1b's to stop them. We're just better warriors than you.

[Unome]

Too many R1b's to stop them. We're just better warriors than you.
All wars begin in the mind. ;)

[Day Tripper]

Too many R1b's to stop them. We're just better warriors than you.

Bullshit you are:

51122
(Vikings)

[alfieb]

The Romans were probably mostly R1b.

[Lalo]

probably some bollywood stars :D

[Unome]

Less sibling-rivalry, more famous R1a's! :thumbsup:

[Ozrage]

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showpost.php?p=8792&postcount=1

[alfieb]

http://twitter.com/stevebruskCNN/statuses/32789765552087040

Anderson Cooper got his ass whooped.

An R1b would have fought back.

[Pallantides]

Bullshit you are:

51122
(Vikings)

...:|




Frequency of R1b in Scandinavians:

Norway 28
Denmark 44.5
Sweden 21

[Paul_Johnsen]

He can't really be called famous (a few Norwegians might have heard of him), and I am not really sure that he is R1a, but I do share the same Y-line-paper-trail as Toralv Øksnevad (MCRA Jon Rasmusson born 1691).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toralv_%C3%98ksnevad

[amenoameno]

Im gonna guess Vladimir Putin.

[Paul_Johnsen]

Im gonna guess Vladimir Putin.

Is Putin R1a?

[amenoameno]

Is Putin R1a?

Well either Medevev or Putin must be R1a considering how high rates of R1a that is found in Russia.

[Põhjamaalane]

Tõnu Trubetsky (Estonian musician)


How do you know that he is R1a? As far as I know, he hasn't taken a genetic test.

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Well either Medevev or Putin must be R1a considering how high rates of R1a that is found in Russia.

Or N1c1, considering the high rates of it in Russia.

[Magavariko]

R1asputin?

[conrad]

Bullshit you are:

51122
(Vikings)

R1b in Scandinavia is twice as common as R1a.

[Paul_Johnsen]

R1b in Scandinavia is twice as common as R1a.

Twice as common, really?

[Pallantides]

I always thought it was about the same amount, though Denmark have a lot more R1b than R1a.

[Unome]

Sooo… no famous R1a's??

I guess that means we have something to work towards, a goal. :thumbsup:

[Krasnal_z_Krakowa]

Sir Francis Drake

[Day Tripper]

...:|




Frequency of R1b in Scandinavians:

Norway 28
Denmark 44.5
Sweden 21

Ha ha. That was only silly banter, pulling from the association of R1a in the British Isles with Viking invaders, which in a loose way is true. In a technical context:

Frequency of R1a in Scandinavians:

Norway: 28% (equal to R1b frequency)
Denmark: ~17% (~0.38x R1b frequency)
Sweden: 24% (1.14x greater than R1b frequency)

(http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml#R1a)

Small pockets of areas where Vikings had invaded in the past (for instance, Northeast England) show far greater frequency than say the Western Coast of Ireland and also anywhere else that far west in continental Europe. R1a in Vikings would have been much greater than in the native population of England.


How do you know that he is R1a? As far as I know, he hasn't taken a genetic test.

A man (http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?viewuid=WUZG2) from the Trubetskoy clan was tested as R1a. Of course, one can't rule out the possibility of an NPE somewhence in time.


R1b in Scandinavia is twice as common as R1a.

Only in Denmark. Your statement at face value is not correct. From the figures above and the populations of those countries:

Norway - 1,382,136 R1a and 1,382,136 R1b
Denmark - 944,811 R1a and 2,473,181 R1b
Sweden - 2,245,071 R1a and 1,964,437 R1b
Total - 4,572,018 R1a and 5,819,754 R1b --> R1b 1.27x greater frequency

[Paul_Johnsen]

Ha ha. That was only silly banter, pulling from the association of R1a in the British Isles with Viking invaders, which in a loose way is true. In a technical context:

Frequency of R1a in Scandinavians:

Norway: 28% (equal to R1b frequency)
Denmark: ~17% (~0.38x R1b frequency)
Sweden: 24% (1.14x greater than R1b frequency)

(http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml#R1a)

Small pockets of areas where Vikings had invaded in the past (for instance, Northeast England) show far greater frequency than say the Western Coast of Ireland and also anywhere else that far west in continental Europe. R1a in Vikings would have been much greater than in the native population of England.



A man (http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?viewuid=WUZG2) from the Trubetskoy clan was tested as R1a. Of course, one can't rule out the possibility of an NPE somewhence in time.



Only in Denmark. Your statement at face value is not correct. From the figures above and the populations of those countries:

Norway - 1,382,136 R1a and 1,382,136 R1b
Denmark - 944,811 R1a and 2,473,181 R1b
Sweden - 2,245,071 R1a and 1,964,437 R1b
Total - 4,572,018 R1a and 5,819,754 R1b --> R1b 1.27x greater frequency

The numbers from Eupedia wasn't referenced last time i checked. Also there is a problem in the definition, would it be people actually living in Scandinavia today, or people who can trace their ancestry back to Scandinavia with good paper trails? There are far more people of Norwegian ancestry alive today than Danes, because a much higher frequency of the Norwegian and Swedish population left for America than the comparable frequency in Denmark. A good estimate would be roughly equal amounts of R1a and R1b.

[Karl der Große]

List of haplogroups of historical and famous figures
http://www.ask.com/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historical_and_famous_figur es?qsrc=3044

[Jusarius]

I hope you all know that due to shuffling of chromosomes in meiosis having a certain haplogroup doesn't mean anything and cannot be connected to a certain trait because the Y chromosome has only a very small amount of genes. E.g. if you're a Finn that has Y: R1a1 you most likely aren't more akin to those peoples whose Y-haplogroup pool has a bigger percentage of R1a1. That is to say most likely about half of the fore fathers of that Finn have the N haplogroup and that person is closer to N-Finns than to the Swedes who have the same Y-haplogroup.

[Tuck]

Were the Normans and William the Conqueror R1a1?

[Paul_Johnsen]

Were the Normans and William the Conqueror R1a1?

maybe some Normans, but not all.

[EliasAlucard]

Got this list from someone who compiled it on Facebook:


1.Somerled and Clan Mac Donald . Somerled of Argyll, one of Scotland's greatest warriors, who is credited with driving out the Vikings. He was also paternal grandfather of the founder of Clan Donald. Through clan genealogies, the genetic relation was mapped out.Somerled belongs to haplogroup R1a1.
2. Vasilii Ivanovich Shuiskii (1552- after 1610)
3.Sir Francis Drake (1540-1596)
4.Aleksandr Sergeyevich Pushkin (May 26 ( 6 June ) 1799 , Moscow - January 29 ( 10 February ) 1837 , St. Petersburg ) - Russian poet , playwright and novelist .
5.William Bickford ( Eng. William Bickford ) (January 1774 , Ashburton, Devon , UK - 1834 ) - English inventor and industrialist.
6.Alexander Fedorovich Mozhayskiy (March 21 1825 Rochensalm, Finland — 1 April 1890 Saint Petersburg), was a Russian naval officer, aviation pioneer, researcher and designer of heavier-than-air craft.
7.Nikolai Mikhaylovich Przhevalsky and Prjevalsky, pronounced ; April 12 1839—November 1 1888), was a Russian geographer of Polish origin and explorer of Central and Eastern Asia
8. Mehmet Arif Şenerim (1877–1951) was a Turkish military leader active during the Balkan Wars, the First World War, and the Turkish War of Independence.
9.Wyatt Emory Cooper (September 1, 1927 – January 5, 1978) was an American author and screenwriter.
10.Nikita Sergeyevich Mikhalkov (born October 21, 1945) is a Soviet and Russian filmmaker, actor, and head of the Russian Cinematographers' Union.
11.Tõnu Trubetsky (born 24 April 1963), also known as Tony Blackplait, is an Estonian punk rock/glam punk musician, film and music video director, and individualist anarchist.
12.Evgeny Mironov (b. 1966 ) - Soviet and Russian actor of theater and cinema , People's Artist of Russia , laureate of State Prize of Russia .
13.Anderson Hays Cooper (born June 3, 1967) is an American journalist, author, and television personality. As of 2011 he is the primary anchor of the CNN news show Anderson Cooper 360°. The program is normally broadcast live from a New York City studio; Cooper, however, often broadcasts live on location for breaking news stories

Sources :
http://www.isogg.org/famoushg.htm (13)
http://r1a.org/4.htm (2,3,4,5,6,7,10,12)
http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?viewuid=WUZG2 (11)
http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?viewuid=YS495 (1)
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/ (8) :Your Y-chromosome results identify you as a member of haplogroup R1a1 (M198).http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=14443500485&topic=16363&post=77588

Here's also a more comprehensive source on Francis Drake:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~drakerobinson/DNAPages/DrakeDNA.htm