Are nigerians closer to eurasians then to san bushman?

[KRANG]

I just read the recent studies of the denisova paper, it appers that the genetic divergence between nigerians/yoruba VS san bushman is larger then between nigerian VS eurasians.

Look at figure 1
http://genetics.med.harvard.edu/reich/Reich_Lab/Welcome_files/2010_Nature_Denisova_Genome.pdf

Look at table S 6.2
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v468/n7327/extref/nature09710-s1.pdf

This is very weird, san bushman should be much closer to yoruba then han chinese and french.:|

Can somebody please explain this, i dont get it, am i reading this figures wrong?

What do you guys think?

[KRANG]

Anybody care to answer, this is very interesting?

[KRANG]

This is a very interesting question, common guys, lets discusse!

[jibarodepr]

Non-Africans ancient ancestor looked like a San, also they look different to typical black Africans.

[beyoku]

Its probably just because of the range of African diversity being so expansive. On a plotted scaled this diversity could
1 - It could Push all non Africans into a little a little circle.
2 - Push certain African groups (particularly hunter gatherers) all the way off the page.

Looking at this image here:
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The Y-axis measuring time.
IF the X axis measured diversity then the 14 African groups would have a much wider Horizontal spread while the other 4 Non African groups could be pushed together even closer. Not only would the 14 African group be spread out more, some of them (Hadza, Sandawe, Khoisan/Pygmy) would be VERY far from the other Africans groups themselves. You would probably have Maybe 9 African Groups that have a wider spread then all the Non-Africans combined. You would then probably have 5 more Africans group who's spread is equal maybe half or even all of that other 9 group's spread. That could make some groups "Closer" (in some instances) to Europeans than even some very divergent population on their same Continent.

Take a look at what the East African Hadza do in K=10:
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I cannot remember where but i am going by memory. I have read studies will they tell you the population would be "Off the plot" but they place them there for reference and to avoid shrinking the plot to a point where it is unreadable.

[YeahISaidIt]

Its probably just because of the range of African diversity being so expansive. On a plotted scaled this diversity could
1 - It could Push all non Africans into a little a little circle.
2 - Push certain African groups (particularly hunter gatherers) all the way off the page.

Looking at this image here:
55355

The Y-axis measuring time.
IF the X axis measured diversity then the 14 African groups would have a much wider Horizontal spread while the other 4 Non African groups could be pushed together even closer. Not only would the 14 African group be spread out more, some of them (Hadza, Sandawe, Khoisan/Pygmy) would be VERY far from the other Africans groups themselves. You would probably have Maybe 9 African Groups that have a wider spread then all the Non-Africans combined. You would then probably have 5 more Africans group who's spread is equal maybe half or even all of that other 9 group's spread. That could make some groups "Closer" (in some instances) to Europeans than even some very divergent population on their same Continent.

Take a look at what the East African Hadza do in K=10:
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I cannot remember where but i am going by memory. I have read studies will they tell you the population would be "Off the plot" but they place them there for reference and to avoid shrinking the plot to a point where it is unreadable.

That's amazing.

[DragonRouge]

No, Eurasians are closer to San people than to West Africans.

[YeahISaidIt]

No, Eurasians are closer to San people than to West Africans.

Lie

San people are closer related to West Africans than they are to Eurasians

[DragonRouge]

Lie

San people are closer related to West Africans than they are to Eurasians

I never said that.

I said Eurasians are closer to San people than they are to West Africans.

[YeahISaidIt]

I never said that.

I said Eurasians are closer to San people than they are to West Africans.

that' not true. The San people are the farthest away from Eurasians.

[Lol_Race]

No, Eurasians are closer to San people than to West Africans.
Completely untrue.

When scientists say that the San are closest to our ancient African ancestors, what they mean is that they diverged from other humans earlier than any living human groups and have preserved the hunter-gatherer way of living. This is often mistakenly interpreted to mean that they are closer to Eurasians than other Sub-Saharan Africans are, which couldn't be further from the truth.

They are the most distant human group based on Y-DNA, mtDNA and autosomal DNA.

[Doctoris Scientia]

Central/South African Hunter-gather groups diverged from the rest of humanity (other Africans) some 100,000-150,000 years ago, while Eurasians and other indigenous Africans split some 50,000 years later... in between 40,000-60,000 years ago.

[DragonRouge]

that' not true. The San people are the farthest away from Eurasians.

No, West Africans are.

[YeahISaidIt]

No, West Africans are.


W/e makes you sleep at night....

[DragonRouge]

W/e makes you sleep at night....

Why am I genetically closer to San people than West Africans, then?

I'm sure average West Africans are to them than closer than I am. That's what I meant.

[pakistani]

Why am I genetically closer to San people than West Africans, then?

I'm sure average West Africans are to them than closer than I am. That's what I meant.

you just wana be black, face it :D:lol:

[DragonRouge]

you just wana be black, face it :D:lol:

:lol: I guess.

No, I was surprised to find that out, actually. I assumed I'd be closer to West Africans.

Of all African populations, I am closest to East Africans, but that didn't surprise me at all.

[Spark]

I'm mostly of West African descent and on data plots I am closer to the San than to Europeans. That is not to suggest I am closely related to the San in any way as they are still distant from my plotting location which is centered near West Africans, but they are clearly closer to me than Europeans.