View Full Version : Mexicans.. who overlaps with them?
mariposa
2011-11-21, 17:39
Taking a different spin on this one.. this time about Mexicans.
It depends on which kind of Mexican we are talking about, there are various phenotypes.
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http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7936/image051524.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/image051524.jpg/)
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jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 17:50
Mestizoid and pred indo mexican with Peruans and Ecuatorians, Castizo Mexicans with castizo Puerto Ricans and Triracial and Mulatto Mexicans with Dominicans and zamboid mexican with zamboid Ecuadorian/Peruan
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 17:54
north mexicans tend to overlap with armenians, sicilians, greeks and turks while southern mexicans tend to resemble filipinos and USA amerinds
mariposa
2011-11-21, 17:57
It depends on which kind of Mexican we are talking about, there are various phenotypes.
Any of the common phenotypes essentially.
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 18:02
Also forgot US natives, they are easily confused for Mexicans(mostly the Westernized ones)
mariposa
2011-11-21, 18:03
Also forgot US natives, they are easily confused for Mexicans(mostly the Westernized ones)
Like Navajo, Cree, Apaches, etc.?
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 18:07
Like Navajo, Cree, Apaches, etc.?Yes.
pakistani
2011-11-21, 18:09
not mexican but i have been confused with south american on occasions, here is my pic: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=23612
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 18:18
not mexican but i have been confused with south american on occasions, here is my pic: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=23612Pigmented Cro-magnid types have been confused for latinos many times as they overlap a lot with pred euro ones.
Too difficult to tell! There are so many phenotypes in Mexico, some look fully Amerindian, others fully European, others Mestizo, Castizo, Mulatto...
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=1
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=2
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=3
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=4
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=5
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=6
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=7
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=8
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=9
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=10
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=11
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=12
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=13
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=14
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=15
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=16
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=17
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=18
Too difficult to tell! There are so many phenotypes in Mexico, some look fully Amerindian, others fully European, others Mestizo, Castizo, Mulatto...
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=1
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=2
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=3
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=4
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=5
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=6
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=7
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=8
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=9
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=10
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=11
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=12
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=13
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=14
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=15
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=16
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=17
http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369248&pic_id=18
I see some mullatoid types, they have strong influence in some parts of the pacific and gulf coasts.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 18:41
I know a guy from Tabasco who looks kinda quadroon or octoroon actually. He doesn't look NA-influenced at all but minor SSA is very evident in his phenotype.
abenjaldún
2011-11-21, 18:44
Well...
Four votes for Spain...:lol:
And so many ofthalmologists without patients.
Please, someone to tell me where that people come from: there where they live are not enough optician's.
mexicans cannot overlap with Filipinos
this is a mexican kid who looks filipino, other than that, the average mexican cant
Filipinos who are mixed with European can sometimes pass for mexican
people do not even think he's mexican (by the way, they are both mexicans)
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/7f1dfc83014e4fef9ffc9e1999f296ae/l.png
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I'll add this mexican also, when he was younger, people thought he was filipino
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/125/0c3497b3b3eb4eaeb101c6f4de8f9557/l.jpg
Wow, Chileans are in first place.
abenjaldún
2011-11-21, 19:04
Wow, Chileans are in first place.
Do you think that is strange?
Which did you choose?
Do you think that is strange?
Which did you choose?
Not really. It's actually one of the options I chose.
I selected the following: Pacific Islanders, US natives, Chileans, Spaniards, Turks, Levantines and Armenians.
But specifically Levantines. They are so similar to many people in the north.
abenjaldún
2011-11-21, 19:12
Not really. It's actually one of the options I chose.
I selected the following: Pacific Islanders, US natives, Chileans, Spaniards, Turks, Levantines and Armenians.
But specifically Levantines are so similar to many people in the north.
Spaniards?
Mmmmmm...
Note down:
Dr. Jorge Codesido.
Avda. Rompetechos, 9º. B
Écija.
You are welcome.
mariposa, I think you should do another one
lets say northern mexicans
and then southern mexicans
and then central-western mexicans
and so on
mariposa, I think you should do another one
lets say northern mexicans
and then southern mexicans
and then central-western mexicans
and so on
Even central and westerners are different. The westerners(tapatios) are more on the Levantine side too.
Even central and westerners are different. The westerners(tapatios) are more on the Levantine side too.
Mexico is very diverse
where can this guy fit? hes from Tijuana
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/386545_284847818216714_100000744936950_948666_3978 61857_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183300_190301044338059_100000744936950_500421_1945 918_n.jpg
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mariposa
2011-11-21, 19:22
He looks Levantine but I think the Levantine similarity is just on a phenotypical basis and not genotypical.
mexicans cannot overlap with Filipinos
this is a mexican kid who looks filipino, other than that, the average mexican cant
Filipinos who are mixed with European can sometimes pass for mexican
people do not even think he's mexican (by the way, they are both mexicans)
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/7f1dfc83014e4fef9ffc9e1999f296ae/l.png
Oh yes they can,not usually but I've seen it mostly with Southern Mexicans.And I've seen Filipinos who look Mexican,like these:
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtaz2r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mhccuq.jpg
This Mayan woman would not stand out in the Phillipines:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ur57a0.jpg
Hell look at these Indonesian guys I found on facebook:
http://i40.tinypic.com/1zgz6sm.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24v046p.jpg
The second pic,the man on the right,not the woman,looks like some Mexicans I've seen before.
north mexicans tend to overlap with armenians, sicilians, greeks and turks while southern mexicans tend to resemble filipinos and USA amerinds
yea and swedish people overlap with ghanians...go f-ck yourself
Oh yes they can,not usually but I've seen it mostly with Southern Mexicans.And I've seen Filipinos who look Mexican,like these:
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtaz2r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mhccuq.jpg
This Mayan woman would not stand out in the Phillipines:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ur57a0.jpg
Hell look at these Indonesian guys I found on facebook:
http://i40.tinypic.com/1zgz6sm.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24v046p.jpg
The second pic,the man on the right,not the woman,looks like some Mexicans I've seen before.
yes she would....u retard ur using a half greek guy as an example of a filipino
jonboyclem
2011-11-21, 19:35
Depends of what part of the country.
Northern Mexicans overlap with Mestizo/Castizo Chileans, Colombians, Costa Ricans, Central Asians, Levantines, Turks, Sicilians, and Greeks.
Southern Mexicans overlap with Indo Mestizo Central Americans like El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, and Ecuadorians.
mariposa
2011-11-21, 19:37
In my opinion a lot of the more Amerindian Mexicans and Central Americans do look superficially Southeast Asian.
Northern Mexicans with Chileans, Turks, Levantines, and Georgians.
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 19:42
mexicans cannot overlap with Filipinos
this is a mexican kid who looks filipino, other than that, the average mexican cant
Filipinos who are mixed with European can sometimes pass for mexican
people do not even think he's mexican (by the way, they are both mexicans)
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/7f1dfc83014e4fef9ffc9e1999f296ae/l.png
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I'll add this mexican also, when he was younger, people thought he was filipino
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/125/0c3497b3b3eb4eaeb101c6f4de8f9557/l.jpg
my couzin got mistaken once for a filipino, i think pred amerinds and southeast asians do overlap
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 19:44
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/386545_284847818216714_100000744936950_948666_3978 61857_n.jpgThe lady looks like a cross of Miley Cyrus and Alyssa Milano. :D
Oh yes they can,not usually but I've seen it mostly with Southern Mexicans.And I've seen Filipinos who look Mexican,like these:
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtaz2r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mhccuq.jpg
This Mayan woman would not stand out in the Phillipines:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ur57a0.jpg
Hell look at these Indonesian guys I found on facebook:
http://i40.tinypic.com/1zgz6sm.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24v046p.jpg
The second pic,the man on the right,not the woman,looks like some Mexicans I've seen before.
The first guy looks more like a central-american, ive seen Salvadorians with that look before
The wrestler is mixed, which is why I said that sometimes mixed ones can pass as Filipinos
I guess, never seen a Filipino who looked like that, Filipinos eyes shape tend to give it away very easily
The Indonesian guy doesnt really look mexican to me, to be honest, im sure there's rare cases of a few mexicans that look like that, just like the little mexican kid who looks Filipino
I dont think I would confuse the other guy for a mexican, he doesnt look like the average mexican in any mexican state, i would think hes mixed or a tourist
Filipinos
http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/thousands-of-filipinos-troop-to-a-public-cemetery-1.704959!image/787932423.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/787932423.jpg
Mexicans from Aguascalientes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hf0pLQPGKP4/RtyD2jsZGfI/AAAAAAAAAgo/uO319XwGGDE/s1600/20070901_PRI-protesta_Ags-3.jpg
Up close
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Hf0pLQPGKP4/RtyE4TsZGhI/AAAAAAAAAg4/F-oHrpDPUg8/s1600/20070901_PRI-protesta_Ags-1.jpg
Michocan, Mexico; Michoacan received Filipinos
the little mexican kid who looks Filipino is from Michoacan
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4A4WzC2y8_Y/TjBMBJaN4TI/AAAAAAAAABY/JLA_gxxfeA0/s1600/protesta+L%25C3%25A1zaro+010.jpg
Puebla, Mexico
http://www.pueblafutbolclub.com.mx/imagenes/sub17/fotosub17.jpg
Mexican of asian ancestry, he can probably pass?? :confused:
http://www.pueblasports.com/noticias/images/1820_puebla_yoshi.jpg
jonboyclem
2011-11-21, 19:49
In my opinion a lot of the more Amerindian Mexicans and Central Americans do look superficially Southeast Asian.
My Filipino friend could pass for Mexican. Shoot, I thought he was Mexican from Oaxaca when I first saw him:lol:
http://www.shrinkpictures.com/processed/phpoSjYF2AM.jpg
my couzin got mistaken once for a filipino, i think pred amerinds and southeast asians do overlap
Filipinos look different to me, I don't think I would ever confuse a fully Filipino for a mexican, I remember in my school some Filipino had a Spanish last name, at that time I didn't know Filipinos had Spanish usernames, but I never confuse him for a mexican, he look distant, but I did think he was probably half mexican
mariposa
2011-11-21, 19:52
I think also some Maoris from New Zealand can pass as Mexican.. I should post some because I have seen some that resemble Mexicans.
I think also some Maoris from New Zealand can pass as Mexican.. I should post some because I have seen some that resemble Mexicans.
yeah post some, I dont know who they are
I googled some and this Maoris can pass for one
http://media30.onsugar.com/files/2011/05/21/6/1728/17284856/30/maori-tattoo-designs_3598.jpg
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 19:56
It's hard to generalize since admixture in Mexico is hardly uniform. Most have phenotypes which are particular to the New World. In the Old World however, I think Mexicans overall overlap the most with Central Asians. That's not to say any random Mexican would fit perfectly among Uzbeks or vice versa. There's some obvious differences in facial features, particularly the eyes, nose, and brow shape.
http://oursurprisingworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/uzbekistan_people_05.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/03/09/uzbek.jailed/art.dadahanov.cnn.jpg
http://www.travel-china.net/imagesen/chinesenationality/uzbek-nationality3.jpg
http://turkmen.traveler.uz/images/albums/Faces/women.jpg
http://blogimages.seniorennet.be/marcel2006/407291-a9c49697cf683717b644cb205bc3f7fa.jpg
http://www.orexca.com/images/fotogallery/img_full/1209534740_7029.jpg
http://www.richardwayman.com/images/uzbek1.jpg
http://ariana.gorod.tj/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/M01.jpg
http://www.fekrat.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/afghan-hazara-face-lik-mongol.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qG6uIwNCCGA/Su2eX_ubrLI/AAAAAAAAAvE/NO9J04QRGUg/s400/a-man.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8500/beginb9.jpg
http://www.unpo.org/imgi/p/176.jpg
http://misfondos.com.es/images/wallpapers/uyghur-634196.jpeg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/World+Uyghur+Congress+President+Rebiya+Kadeer+U-BYQcbvejPl.jpg
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 19:57
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtaz2r.jpg
No lie brah, i see these types of mexicans in my area
mariposa
2011-11-21, 19:59
Maoris
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N-GlYZDQYno/S-VjH0bI2UI/AAAAAAAAC1A/hSr6HT7w-Ow/s400/maori_tattoo.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YES8bS9_aU4/Td5xPmUHBCI/AAAAAAAAATw/LdZJ12UbkuY/s1600/maori.jpghttp://engwell.wikispaces.com/file/view/maoris_rotorua_h014.jpg/64569150/maoris_rotorua_h014.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ht1VriN6MKA/TP_Zwlb9E3I/AAAAAAAAABA/xl9Fpk8BZmg/s1600/6a00d83451c64169e2010535d68645970b-800wi.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ufQo9WKoZMU/S_raQQZzRhI/AAAAAAAAAEs/JHd6nFY00FQ/s1600/maori%252525252B35.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtaz2r.jpg
No lie brah, i see these types of mexicans in my area
Ive never seen a mexican like that, damn lol
but those Filipinos are not common, majority look like Manny Pacquiao, same crossed eyed eyes
This mixed Filipino can pass for a mexican here in California and in Mexico, hes Filipino and Portuguese
http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/96/6u/ur/e5403.png
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Maoris
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ufQo9WKoZMU/S_raQQZzRhI/AAAAAAAAAEs/JHd6nFY00FQ/s1600/maori%252525252B35.jpg
If I saw this nigga here in California, I would think hes mexican :lol:
definitely Maoris look more similar to mexicans than Filipinos
The first guy looks more like a central-american, ive seen Salvadorians with that look before
The wrestler is mixed, which is why I said that sometimes mixed ones can pass as Filipinos
I guess, never seen a Filipino who looked like that, Filipinos eyes shape tend to give it away very easily
The Indonesian guy doesnt really look mexican to me, to be honest, im sure there's rare cases of a few mexicans that look like that, just like the little mexican kid who looks Filipino
I dont think I would confuse the other guy for a mexican, he doesnt look like the average mexican in any mexican state, i would think hes mixed or a tourist
Filipinos
http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/thousands-of-filipinos-troop-to-a-public-cemetery-1.704959!image/787932423.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/787932423.jpg
Mexicans from Aguascalientes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hf0pLQPGKP4/RtyD2jsZGfI/AAAAAAAAAgo/uO319XwGGDE/s1600/20070901_PRI-protesta_Ags-3.jpg
Up close
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Hf0pLQPGKP4/RtyE4TsZGhI/AAAAAAAAAg4/F-oHrpDPUg8/s1600/20070901_PRI-protesta_Ags-1.jpg
Michocan, Mexico; Michoacan received Filipinos
the little mexican kid who looks Filipino is from Michoacan
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4A4WzC2y8_Y/TjBMBJaN4TI/AAAAAAAAABY/JLA_gxxfeA0/s1600/protesta+L%25C3%25A1zaro+010.jpg
Puebla, Mexico
http://www.pueblafutbolclub.com.mx/imagenes/sub17/fotosub17.jpg
Mexican of asian ancestry, he can probably pass?? :confused:
http://www.pueblasports.com/noticias/images/1820_puebla_yoshi.jpg
I doubt there's one Filipino eye shape,they have variation too,not just Mexicans.:whoco:Btw,that Mexican of "Asian" ancestry doesn't look like any Filipino I've ever seen,except for Chinese mixed ones.
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 20:05
Ive never seen a mexican like that, damn lol
but those Filipinos are not common, majority look like Manny Pacquiao, same crossed eyed eyes
This mixed Filipino can pass for a mexican here in California and in Mexico, hes Filipino and Portuguese
http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/96/6u/ur/e5403.png
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If I saw this nigga here in California, I would think hes mexican :lol:
definitely Maoris look more similar to mexicans than Filipinos
http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/object/142/14263932/samoa-joe_photoboxart_160w.jpg
how about this samoan? does he look like a mestizo mexican?
I doubt there's one Filipino eye shape,they have variation too,not just Mexicans.:whoco:Btw,that Mexican of "Asian" ancestry doesn't look like any Filipino I've ever seen,except for Chinese mixed ones.
:lol: he's the only one close to looking like a Filipino
majority have Manny Pacquiao eyes or semi-slanted, mexicans on average do not have those eyes
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http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/object/142/14263932/samoa-joe_photoboxart_160w.jpg
how about this samoan? does he look like a mestizo mexican?
yeah he looks mexican, except for his nose :lol: he has a weird nose
How do Sicilians and Greeks look like?
:lol: he's the only one close to looking like a Filipino
majority have Manny Pacquiao eyes or semi-slanted, mexicans on average do not have those eyes
Mexican friends I found on Facebook:
http://i44.tinypic.com/am7f5d.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1vvie.jpg
And these kids are pretty typical of the Mexicans in my area.Is that not epicanthus?
Mexican friends I found on Facebook:
http://i44.tinypic.com/am7f5d.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1vvie.jpg
And these kids are pretty typical of the Mexicans in my area.Is that not epicanthus?
These folks would def look foreign in my region.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 20:19
Epicanthic folds like those seen in East Asians are not the norm among indigenous Mexicans. They are even less common among mestizos.
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtaz2r.jpg
No lie brah, i see these types of mexicans in my area
He looks like the guy from Presunto Culpable.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ies0NlSm9-k/TXf7trlkIzI/AAAAAAAAAV4/JzA43jnLO4s/s400/victormanuelreyesbravo.jpg
Mexican friends I found on Facebook:
http://i44.tinypic.com/am7f5d.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1vvie.jpg
And these kids are pretty typical of the Mexicans in my area.Is that not epicanthus?
so the average Filipino looks like a mexican? we are talking about AVERAGE here, I can post mexicans who look German and then go, mexicans can pass for German, which is not the case, selected ones can, but the average will never
so again, can the average Filipino pass for a mexican? of course not
http://images.liveinthephilippines.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/school_kids.jpg
can those Maoris pass for mexican? yes they can
Maoris kids
http://www.kuoni.ch/ImageGallery/Neuseeland_Maori-Kinder.jpg
mexican kids from Guanajuto
http://v4.cache4.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/14211316.jpg?redirect_counter=1
Most Mexicans I see in my area, Los Angeles, look more Spanish/Mediterranean than most of the Mexicans I see posted here. Probably because many of the ones I see come from Jalisco, Sinaloa, Aguascalientes or their ancestors did.
my couzin got mistaken once for a filipino, i think pred amerinds and southeast asians do overlap
Filipina Girl
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-GpZ7iCMTkiI/SkUedHM8dKI/AAAAAAAABEU/ZJ5c_EhrX2o/s318/suzuki%252520pop%252520car%252520finished%2525203. jpg
Mexican girl
http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PCH10495.jpg
ain't even close brah
Most Mexicans I see in my area, Los Angeles, look more Spanish/Mediterranean than most of the Mexicans I see posted here. Probably because many of the ones I see come from Jalisco, Sinaloa, Aguascalientes or their ancestors did.
many come from Jalisco, Guanajuato, Zacatecas and Michoacan
I assume the mexicans from Texas or Arizona look whiter than the Californians since Texas and Arizona mexicans come from Northern Mexico like Sonora, Monterrey and Tamaulipas
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 20:35
http://images.liveinthephilippines.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/school_kids.jpgI know one PR girl with similar pheno to the girl in white and yellow(not a typical pheno here by the way)
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 20:37
I know one PR girl with similar pheno to the girl in white and yellow(not a typical pheno here by the way)
How tipical? i thought PR was diverse?:confused:
I know one PR girl with similar pheno to the girl in white and yellow(not a typical pheno here by the way)
Now that I remember, there was this PR girl back in my high school, she looked like a mestiza, brown skin and everything, I always thought she was mexican, she dressed like a chola gangster, until one day we found out she was from PR, very surprising
I wish I had a picture of her, I bet she could pass as a Taina
I'll try to find her in my yearbook from high school and Facebook her, and if I do, ill show you the Taina gyal
Maoris can pass for Mexican not Filipinos. ;);)
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 20:49
Maoris can pass for Mexican not Filipinos. ;);)
agreed then ;);););););););););););)
How tipical? i thought PR was diverse?:confused:
Check this mexican out blud
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/128/e72ef07065cb445993dee847019c9722/l.jpg
http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/f47a0ebfa790bcebf07fd20391f4bdc1/l.jpg
http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/d3732753aef98e509dd13b8aceaea2ca/l.jpg
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 20:52
Check this mexican out blud
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/128/e72ef07065cb445993dee847019c9722/l.jpg
http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/f47a0ebfa790bcebf07fd20391f4bdc1/l.jpg
http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/d3732753aef98e509dd13b8aceaea2ca/l.jpg
where is he from?
where is he from?
Nayarit, do you know people from there? I wonder if there are more people from Nayarit who have his look
I havent seen mexicans who look like him out here
hes black jesus, blud :lol: some black girl left him that comment on the first picture saying he looked like black jesus
jonboyclem
2011-11-21, 20:59
Nayarit, do you know people from there? I wonder if there are more people from Nayarit who have his look
I havent seen mexicans who look like him out here
hes black jesus, blud :lol: some black girl left him that comment on the first picture saying he looked like black jesus
Your friend looks like this Dominican I know. He looks mad Caribbean Hispanic.
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 21:00
How tipical? i thought PR was diverse?:confused:Not typical, like I said, she can be even the only one with that look.There are zamboid types or pre indigenous looking(I said looking not mean they are pred indingoeus in pheno)that are part of the big minority.
I think you have to pay a visit to the island and stop thinking in NY Ricans too much, as they don't represent PR's whole pheno.
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 21:05
Not typical, like I said, she can be even the only one with that look.There are zamboid types or pre indigenous looking(I said looking not mean they are pred indingoeus in pheno)that are part of the big minority.
I think you have to pay a visit to the island and stop thinking in NY Ricans too much, as they don't represent PR's whole pheno.
your country is diverse, the onces here that i have seen more often are pred mediterenean ones, i very few times see mestizo looking prs or mullatos, is just that im not used to seeing them...
Your friend looks like this Dominican I know. He looks mad Caribbean Hispanic.
yeah he really does, I thought he was one but he said he was mexican from Nayarit, and he has pictures with his mexican flag
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 21:09
Your buddy reminds me of Oliver Pérez. He's from Culiacán, Sinaloa.
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=107158&d=1316124465
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=107159&d=1316124465
There's also Horacio Llamas Grey from Rosario, also in Sinaloa. I think he's part Afram, Jamaican, or something though. Really exotic phenotype anywhere in Mexico.
http://www.debate.com.mx/eldebate/Funciones/ImagenDeArticulo.asp?IdArt=11379557&IdCat=6087
http://www.deporterafaga.com/Torneos-tools/perfilesjugadores/upload/17HoracioLlamas.JPG
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 21:16
your country is diverse, the onces here that i have seen more often are pred mediterenean ones, i very few times see mestizo looking prs or mullatos, is just that im not used to seeing them...Then I would say the ones I see are the one who look either like you more more amerind, that would mean I woul label all meican people as lookign like thes ones and that there are no castizos or pred Euro ones, or do you think it would be fine if I lable all mexicans as "spanish speaking indios"in general? ;)
I am also not used to see pred Euro Mexicans.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 21:34
You are not used to seeing Mexicans, period. There's probably like 10 in all of PR.
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 21:38
You are not used to seeing Mexicans, period. There's probably like 10 in all of PR.Like he is not used to see PRs, only the daisporans in NY city that I assume he seems to think they are the representation of what PR people look like.Sorry if I sound mean, but I find this explaining this a lot of times and some people not getting it tiring and a bit irritating at times.
Like he is not used to see PRs, only the daisporans in NY city that I assume he seems to think they are the representation of what PR people look like.Sorry if I sound mean, but I find this explaining this a lot of times and some people not getting it tiring and a bit irritating at times.
you sounded a little mean, blud :( haha
Cuetlachtli57
2011-11-21, 21:44
you sounded a little mean, blud :( haha
uuuuhhhh my soul is hurting!!
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 21:45
you sounded a little mean, blud :( hahaI know, but really, I have tried to tell things a lot of times but many people either dont'get it for a reson or just don't want to, sometimes I think they are trying to do it to make a joke of me or something, because I see many people get it, why the others don't, I don't think people here are dumber than others.
Native Americans mixed with black along with Spanish admixture to a lesser extent.
jibarodepr
2011-11-21, 21:46
uuuuhhhh my soul is hurting!!So you did it to make a joke of me?(Just asking, I am not mad or anything, just a little uncomfortable)
Native Americans mixed with black along with Spanish admixture to a lesser extent.
Who can overlap with mexicans, nobody is asking you for mexicans ancestry, blud :lol:
so the average Filipino looks like a mexican? we are talking about AVERAGE here, I can post mexicans who look German and then go, mexicans can pass for German, which is not the case, selected ones can, but the average will never
so again, can the average Filipino pass for a mexican? of course not
http://images.liveinthephilippines.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/school_kids.jpg
can those Maoris pass for mexican? yes they can
Maoris kids
http://www.kuoni.ch/ImageGallery/Neuseeland_Maori-Kinder.jpg
mexican kids from Guanajuto
http://v4.cache4.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/14211316.jpg?redirect_counter=1
I did not say average,I said there's overlap.And what's the scoop on the two Mexicans I posted from facebook?There typical around here.What part of Mexico do they look?Btw,it's pretty hypocritcal that you post different pics of Mexicans from different parts,then post one picture of Filipinos to represent the whole country.There needs to be a Filipino poster here to show if there's more variation than that.Also,those Maoris and most of them are to my knowledge mixed,particurly with European,so they are practically Mestizos too in a way.
I did not say average,I said there's overlap.And what's the scoop on the two Mexicans I posted from facebook?There typical around here.What part of Mexico do they look?Btw,it's pretty hypocritcal that you post different pics of Mexicans from different parts,then post one picture of Filipinos to represent the whole country.There needs to be a Filipino poster here to show if there's more variation than that.Also,those Maoris and most of them are to my knowledge mixed,particurly with European,so they are practically Mestizos too in a way.
Well pretty much anyone can pass as a mexican then, mexican is just a nationality, there are Filipinos who live in Guerrero, they might look similar to them, Mexico has the biggest German school outside of German, Im sure those Mexicans of German ancestry can overlap with the Germans, there are also Polish, Italians and French out here, we also have Arabs, so anyone can overlap with mexicans
yes she would....u retard ur using a half greek guy as an example of a filipino
The woman would fit in even better in Flores/Nusa Tengarra then if anywhere that's not Latin America,look at her dopplegangers taken straight from the thread made by Oditous:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2lxa144.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/73hua1.jpg
Now the Mayan woman:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ur57a0.jpg
To say there is no resemblance here would be blind.
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Well pretty much anyone can pass as a mexican then, mexican is just a nationality, there are Filipinos who live in Guerrero, they might look similar to them, Mexico has the biggest German school outside of German, Im sure those Mexicans of German ancestry can overlap with the Germans, there are also Polish, Italians and French out here, we also have Arabs, so anyone can overlap with mexicans
Sarcasm aside,those Mexican types I posted from my facebook,what part do they look?Because the first one I posted I know and his folks are actually in Matamoros..
The woman would fit in even better in Flores/Nusa Tengarra then if anywhere that's not Latin America,look at her dopplegangers taken straight from the thread made by Oditous:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2lxa144.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/73hua1.jpg
Now the Mayan woman:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ur57a0.jpg
To say there is no resemblance here would be blind.
Flores/ Nusa Tengarra are not filipinos....if you ever been to rural areas of the Philippines...it is much more mongoloid
eastern indonesians like flores people are true hybrids though since the australoid admixture is the heaviest there
Hmm I can't choose :/ Mexicans are very diverse. I'd practically choose many of the options because they could be easily found in Mexico. Maybe try doing another one with more specific regions :-)
I mean northern and southern Mexicans look veeeery different from each other and then the coast Mexicans are more triracials...I don't know :(
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Filipinos? The only Mexicans I know that overlap with Filipinos are Filipino descent Mexicans :p
Sarcasm aside,those Mexican types I posted from my facebook,what part do they look?Because the first one I posted I know and his folks are actually in Matamoros..
Yes, like I said, mexican is a nationality, I can post pictures of mexicans with Italian ancestry, or germans, polish, russians, chinese, japanese, lebanese ect.
But the average Filipino would never pass as a mexican, only Maori would, these people would have no problem fitting in with the mexican population
http://www.travel-destination-pictures.com/images/500/maori-people_1149.jpg
not these
http://western-asian.com/images2/marriedtofilipinos1.jpg
Yucatecos from Yucatan
http://www.idey.gob.mx/fotos/abril_26_2008/dsc02156.jpg
Mayans from Mexico
http://img.diariodelviajero.com/2008/08/Mayas.jpg
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Hmm I can't choose :/ Mexicans are very diverse. I'd practically choose many of the options because they could be easily found in Mexico. Maybe try doing another one with more specific regions :-)
I mean northern and southern Mexicans look veeeery different from each other and then the coast Mexicans are more triracials...I don't know :(
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Filipinos? The only Mexicans I know that overlap with Filipinos are Filipino descent Mexicans :p
Do you think the Maoris would fit perfectly with the mexicans? I think so
Does this Mixed Filipino pass as Mexican?
http://i44.tinypic.com/zkfx1j.jpg
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 22:49
The results of the poll talk for themselves.... Mexicans can overlap with all of the poll's options because of our diversity.
Does this Mixed Filipino pass as Mexican?
http://i44.tinypic.com/zkfx1j.jpg
Of course, because he is MIXED, mixed filipinos like I said before can pass for mexicans because they have that mestizo look to themselves, rather than the full Filipinos who do not have that look at all
this is a Filipina/Mexican, I wouldnt doubt her if she told me she was mexican
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14400000/Jasmine-Personal-Photos-jasmine-villegas-14407213-400-300.jpg
this is a half british half filipino, he would pass as a mexican
http://www.pep.ph/images/writeups/3070467d1.jpg
pretty much only the mixed ones can
Of course, because he is MIXED, mixed filipinos like I said before can pass for mexicans because they have that mestizo look to themselves, rather than the full Filipinos who do not have that look at all
this is a Filipina/Mexican, I wouldnt doubt her if she told me she was mexican
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14400000/Jasmine-Personal-Photos-jasmine-villegas-14407213-400-300.jpg
this is a half british half filipino, he would pass as a mexican
http://www.pep.ph/images/writeups/3070467d1.jpg
pretty much only the mixed ones can
I still think certain full Filipinos can overlap with Southern Mexican Amerind types.Maybe the ones mixed with Negrito or Australoid.
Nordenskjöld
2011-11-21, 22:57
Chileans don't overlap with Mexicans.. What the fuck.
I still think certain full Filipinos can overlap with Southern Mexican Amerind types.Maybe the ones mixed with Negrito or Australoid.
I think if a Mexican looks like a Filipino we'd consider them "chinos" (I know, not the most accurate of terms, but in that sense) But yeah, maybe they'd be closer to the Southern Amerind types somewhat
I still think certain full Filipinos can overlap with Southern Mexican Amerind types.Maybe the ones mixed with Negrito or Australoid.
I dont know, the natives from Mexico have a different look from Filipinos, I guess its because of the eye shape
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_yha1IIAAxbs/TSzGrkaJfFI/AAAAAAAAB_g/Q5wIqhYGyy4/foto%20mexico%20indigena.jpg
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 23:08
Chileans don't overlap with Mexicans.. What the fuck.
Obviusly you dont have the slightes idea of what youre talking about, we do share common origins unless you think the ones that overlap with Chileans are the Scandinavians.....:whoco::whoco::whoco:
unless you think the ones that overlap with Chileans are the Scandinavians.....:whoco::whoco::whoco:
I think he does :p
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 23:09
I still think certain full Filipinos can overlap with Southern Mexican Amerind types.Maybe the ones mixed with Negrito or Australoid.
There is some overlap with pred. indigenous Mexicans, but it's minor. I know an Otomi guy who looks almost like Manny Pacquiao.
They are clearly distinct for the most part though, Mexican Amerindians have more prominent noses and less facial flatness. The ocurrency of epicanthic folds is also lower.
http://www.newshidalgo.com.mx/fotos/ritualeshuasteca.jpg
http://derechosmayas.nortesur-ca.org/institucionalidad/imgs/0.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B-lrr7gW_Rk/TPkTRJ6sl8I/AAAAAAAADqg/uccfdG5Ftwo/s1600/1082248917_0e9805da6e.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2041297984_196e2290f6.jpg
http://www.unidosporeltajin.org.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Voces-de-las-etnias.jpg
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 23:10
The Chilean miners could easily go as Mexicans.
http://www.elespectador.com/files/images/febmar2010/e1f40339790a31e6f4ded50d1ea063ec.jpg
The Chilean miners could easily go as Mexicans.
http://www.elespectador.com/files/images/febmar2010/e1f40339790a31e6f4ded50d1ea063ec.jpg
not really, they look different, HIS people have a weird look, wow :o
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 23:15
As a matter of fact if you ask the average american how he could differenciate the average Chilean from the average Mexicann he for sure would answer that they both look exactly the same to his eyes...
The very "nordic" looking Chilean foot ball players.
http://www.chilenodecorazon.cl/img-noticias/912-chilebielsa.jpg
All of them could easily go as mexicans.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 23:16
Chileans don't overlap with Mexicans.. What the fuck.
Yeah, Chileans obviously overlap more with Koreans.
This Mexican vs Filipino thing has already been beaten alot on these boards.But I am surpised at the lack of comparison of Mexicans to South Asians,particurly Punjabis and maybe ambigious Bangladeshi types.Northern Mexicans vs North Indians.What about it?I think theres some overlap with Telenovela actors and Bollywood.Just ignore the headwear on the first man,its about facial features.Punjabis:
http://i43.tinypic.com/260vius.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/vol82r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1znlw9d.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2mrgs9t.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/6z674m.jpg
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There is some overlap with pred. indigenous Mexicans, but it's minor. I know an Otomi guy who looks almost like Manny Pacquiao.
They are clearly distinct for the most part though, Mexican Amerindians have more prominent noses and less facial flatness. The ocurrency of epicanthic folds is also lower.
http://www.newshidalgo.com.mx/fotos/ritualeshuasteca.jpg
http://derechosmayas.nortesur-ca.org/institucionalidad/imgs/0.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B-lrr7gW_Rk/TPkTRJ6sl8I/AAAAAAAADqg/uccfdG5Ftwo/s1600/1082248917_0e9805da6e.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2041297984_196e2290f6.jpg
http://www.unidosporeltajin.org.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Voces-de-las-etnias.jpg
That's why I say Filipinos with Australoid admix,I believe the type is called Proto Malayid.These types overlap because the Australoid admix gives them less epicanthus,deep brown skin,less facial flatness,and occasionally convex noses.Examples of Proto Malayid looking types:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2a64g9c.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2pzi8tc.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/30l1nvr.jpg
Other - Central Americans from the Pacific Coast. Also the random North Indian or Pakistani
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 23:21
I've personly met the next "pseudolooks" in many mexicans:
Pseudo phillipino, Pseudo samoan/maori, Peudo MENA, Pseudo malay, Pseudo Cipangid and PseudoIndid.
This Mexican vs Filipino thing has been beaten alot on these boards.But I am surpised at the lack of comparison of Mexicans to South Asians,particurly Punjabis and maybe ambigious Bangladeshi types.Northern Mexicans vs North Indians.What about it?I think theres some overlap with Telenovela actors and Bollywood.Just ignore the headwear on the first man,its about facial features.Punjabis:
http://i43.tinypic.com/260vius.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/vol82r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1znlw9d.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2mrgs9t.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/6z674m.jpg
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That's why I say Filipinos with Australoid admix,I believe the type is called Proto Malayid.These types overlap because the Australoid admix gives them less epicanthus,deep brown skin,less facial flatness,and occasionally convex noses.
I think this Bollywood actor can pass for a mexican
http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/c/e/cevou56pr7ufeco7.jpg
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 23:22
This Mexican vs Filipino thing has been beaten alot on these boards.But I am surpised at the lack of comparison of Mexicans to South Asians,particurly Punjabis and maybe ambigious Bangladeshi types.Northern Mexicans vs North Indians.What about it?I think theres some overlap with Telenovela actors and Bollywood.Just ignore the headwear on the first man,its about facial features.Punjabis:
http://i43.tinypic.com/260vius.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/vol82r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1znlw9d.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2mrgs9t.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/6z674m.jpg
---------- Post added 2011-11-21 at 23:19 ----------
That's why I say Filipinos with Australoid admix,I believe the type is called Proto Malayid.These types overlap because the Australoid admix gives them less epicanthus,deep brown skin,less facial flatness,and occasionally convex noses.
Not really. I'd say there is more overlap with Iberians and Levantines, though you'll get the occasional pseudo-South Asian individuals. Those seem to be more common in the Caribbean.
this Bollywood actor also
http://i2.listal.com/image/1634963/500full.jpg
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this bollywood actress
http://www.celebrity-gossips.net/wp-content/uploads//2011/11/bipasha-basu.jpg
Not really. I'd say there is more overlap with Iberians and Levantines, though you'll get the occasional pseudo-South Asian individuals. Those seem to be more common in the Caribbean.
Explain how you can tell them apart then.What features are different?What about John Abraham:
http://i39.tinypic.com/4ghohl.jpg
What about Shahid Kapoor?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9-pV03EpRHA/TlAr2JWF9FI/AAAAAAAACFs/DjlWELURoWI/s1600/10.jpg
Its hard to just pick one country and say they overlap the most. Mexico, the most populous Spanish speaking LatinAmerican nation, has quite a wide range of phenotypes depending on the region.
For example, Vicente Fernandez has a common stereotypical Mexican look, I can't think of any country that reminds me of a bunch of Vicente Fernandez look alikes.
Some regions have populations that remind me of other pred. European populations in LatinAmerica (Castizos), like some Colombians, Costa Ricans, etc. Some of the Euro looking Mexican 'fresa' types remind me of Southern Cone populations, other more indigenous regions remind me of El Salvador. The Veracruz population supposedly has a very Caribbean look, and I've personally heard this from Cubans and Dominican travelers who went there, not just internet talk.
Cancun is very turisty, but the Mexicans I saw there did not remind me of any here, neither West Coast or East Coast varieties.
I think these gyals would pass as mexicans
http://amazingpicturez.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/gals.jpg
Its hard to just pick one country and say they overlap the most. Mexico, the most populous Spanish speaking LatinAmerican nation, has quite a wide range of phenotypes depending on the region.
For example, Vicente Fernandez has a common stereotypical Mexican look, I can't think of any country that reminds me of a bunch of Vicente Fernandez look alikes.
Some regions have populations that remind me of other pred. European populations in LatinAmerica (Castizos), like some Colombians, Costa Ricans, etc. Some of the Euro looking Mexican 'fresa' types remind me of Southern Cone populations, other more indigenous regions remind me of El Salvador. The Veracruz population supposedly has a very Caribbean look, and I've personally heard this from Cubans and Dominican travelers who went there, not just internet talk.
Cancun is very turisty, but the Mexicans I saw there did not remind me of any here, neither West Coast or East Coast varieties.
They should do a specific region, not Mexico as a whole
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Explain how you can tell them apart then.What features are different?What about John Abraham:
http://i39.tinypic.com/4ghohl.jpg
That guy reminds me of some mexican guy from TV, but I cannot remember his name
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 23:40
These two could pass as Mexicans.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bAo4_wj7mig/SaBr2W3cUoI/AAAAAAAAblM/XB93Mv9CdjI/Quisiera%20ser%20millonario%5B6%5D.jpg
Tenochkatl
2011-11-21, 23:40
Explain how you can tell them apart then.What features are different?What about John Abraham:
http://i39.tinypic.com/4ghohl.jpg
South Asians in general often have distinct eyes and noses.
I could see many of these Sinaloenses (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=15490) or Norteño singers (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=22043) being Spaniards or Levantine, but Punjabi? That's not to say there's no Mexicans who look Indian but they are few.
These two could pass as Mexicans.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bAo4_wj7mig/SaBr2W3cUoI/AAAAAAAAblM/XB93Mv9CdjI/Quisiera%20ser%20millonario%5B6%5D.jpg
I was about to say Freida Pinto(she's an example of the "Ambigous Bangladeshi/Eastern type Indian"),but I honestly don't think the Dev Patel could pass as a Mexican.
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South Asians in general often have distinct eyes and noses.
I could see many of these Sinaloenses (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=15490) or Norteño singers (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=22043) being Spaniards or Levantine, but Punjabi? That's not to say there's no Mexicans who look Indian but they are few.
Yeah,there's a thread about South Asian distinctiveness,but usually I associate that with South Indians,the more stereotypically "Indian" looking.Those types are one of the least ambigious/most distinctive people in the world,imo.
Arminfrench
2011-11-21, 23:54
Other pseudomexicans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXKxAg6g_j0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKpkaUHqQk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZSv4HlyfIo&feature=related
And these are Chicanos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqWJbHVfPwQ
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Even the guy who plays Smiley is the same guy that appears in "Once were Warriors".
South Asians in general often have distinct eyes and noses.
I could see many of these Sinaloenses (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=15490) or Norteño singers (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=22043) being Spaniards or Levantine, but Punjabi? That's not to say there's no Mexicans who look Indian but they are few.
Oh yeah,I think South Asian complexion is quite distinct too,it's own kind of brown.I've heard they have greenish undertones?
Nordenskjöld
2011-11-22, 02:01
Obviusly you dont have the slightes idea of what youre talking about, we do share common origins unless you think the ones that overlap with Chileans are the Scandinavians.....:whoco::whoco::whoco:Why are you so childish? Did you even go to college or something? 'Cause you act like you were 15...
As a matter of fact if you ask the average american how he could differenciate the average Chilean from the average Mexicann he for sure would answer that they both look exactly the same to his eyes...
The very "nordic" looking Chilean foot ball players.
http://www.chilenodecorazon.cl/img-noticias/912-chilebielsa.jpg
All of them could easily go as mexicans.
Umm ok I feel like I'm talking to my little sister but anyway.. First, I never said Chileans were nordic. Most are actually Castizos or Mediterranean Whites. There's an important Mestizo minority as well.
That minority -which is, people who aren't Castizos or Whites-, is concentrated in Northern Chile -like the Chilean miners, for example- and in the low classes -like the national football team, for example-. These people are the ones who are kinda similar to Mexicans. Most of Chileans are not.
So yes, we kinda agree. Northern Chileans -miners- and Low class Chileans -football players- are similar to the average Mexican.
Multilingual
2011-11-22, 02:11
I forgot to vote for Puerto Ricans. Some PRs can pass as Mexican.
Some Chileans that I've met can pass as Mexican also.
Why are you so childish? Did you even go to college or something? 'Cause you act like you were 15...
Umm ok I feel like I'm talking to my little sister but anyway.. First, I never said Chileans were nordic. Most are actually Castizos or Mediterranean Whites. There's an important Mestizo minority as well.
That minority -which is, people who aren't Castizos or Whites-, is concentrated in Northern Chile -like the Chilean miners, for example- and in the low classes -like the national football team, for example-. These people are the ones who are kinda similar to Mexicans. Most of Chileans are not.
So yes, we kinda agree. Northern Chileans -miners- and Low class Chileans -football players- are similar to the average Mexican.
I didn't see nothing different about these Chilenos, I was excepting them to be like Uruguayans or Argentinians :confused: these Chilenos can pass for mexicans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5dnCelMxuo
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 02:19
Please! Chileans can't pass as Mexicans, they can only overlap with Peruvians.
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I don't know what this guy's deal is. He isn't even white-looking. He looked like an Andean mestizo with contacts...
This guy taken from Rtudg87's Chicano thread,looks Super Mexican to me.As in,I can't see him as anything else but Mexican.Anybody think he could pass elsewhere?
http://i40.tinypic.com/2iih8r4.jpg
Multilingual
2011-11-22, 02:34
This guy taken from Rtudg87's Chicano thread,looks Super Mexican to me.As in,I can't see him as anything else but Mexican.Anybody think he could pass elsewhere?
http://i40.tinypic.com/2iih8r4.jpg
My first guess would be Mexican/Mexican-American. That's the phenotype that I'm familiar with. Most Central Americans that I've seen tend to be darker, have a different look, and in some cases have a thinner and smaller frame that's less rugged. The South American groups vary, but the closest maybe the Chileans.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 03:38
US Amerindians.. how do they compare to Mexicans?
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/07/27/us/navajo600.jpghttp://navajo-arts.com/navajo-pictures/navajo0006.jpghttp://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2010/20100915_navajos.jpghttp://psychsymposium.com/28/img_Oct_03_2004_41_42?display=smallhttp://www.tattoodonkey.com/pics/a/a/aaanativeartscom-modern-native-american-blackfoot-indian-clothing-d-i-tattoodonkey.com.jpghttp://www.tattoodonkey.com/pics/a/a/aaanativeartscom-modern-native-american-blackfoot-indian-clothing-d-i-tattoodonkey.com.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lIkczsSsRYA/TP2H6P3FbVI/AAAAAAAAABE/W1kbgGuR9I0/s1600/leonard-peltier.jpghttp://www.peoplesobold.net/Native%20girl%20with%20T%20shirt.jpghttp://www.nativeamericanlinks.com/images/Pictures/stacey03.jpghttp://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/9014517/2/stock-photo-9014517-native-american-people-navajo-male.jpg
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 03:41
They get confused as Mexicans a lot and moslty the Westernized ones, even the NA rappers can be confused fro "cholos"
mariposa
2011-11-22, 03:41
The ones I posted are mostly Navajos.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 03:43
The ones I posted are mostly Navajos.I have know Navajos who have been confused as Mexican, soemtimes the only thing that distinguish them form Mexicans is that they are "purer" and that they speak english instead of Hispanic.
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Look at these dudes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyCDr_ojV4&feature=related
I really don't think Plains Indians and Eastern Woodlands types get mistaken for Mexicans,especially if they have stereotypical braided hairstyles.Im talking about Silvid types and stuff.Anyone got pics?
mariposa
2011-11-22, 03:49
I really don't think Plains Indians and Eastern Woodlands types get mistaken for Mexicans,especially if they have stereotypical braided hairstyles.Im talking about Silvid types and stuff.Anyone got pics?
Depends on the group.. mostly Native Americans in the US southwest would be taken for Mexican.. some of which (like Hopi Indians) are linguistically related to Mexican natives.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 03:50
I for one find similarities between Mexicans and some US Natives.
Depends on the group.. mostly Native Americans in the US southwest would be taken for Mexican.. some of which (like Hopi Indians) are linguistically related to Mexican natives.
Of course the SW natives would get mistaken for Mexicans by proxy of geographical location.But I think the Natives outside of there might have more distinctive looks.And their often taller.
Arminfrench
2011-11-22, 03:52
I have know Navajos who have been confused as Mexican, soemtimes the only thing that distinguish them form Mexicans is that they are "purer" and that they speak english instead of Hispanic.
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Look at these dudes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyCDr_ojV4&feature=related
>Actually they used to be Mexicans in fact.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 03:52
Of course the SW natives would get mistaken for Mexicans by proxy of geographical location.But I think the Natives outside of there might have more distinctive looks.And their often taller.
Possibly true.
Do you think Taylor Lautner could pass as Mexican?
http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/82/230x306/82176_twilight-star-taylor-lautner.jpg
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 03:53
And by what I see on internet,, they seem to be hostile sometimes, another thing is that they have gangs and drug dealing on their rez, thing I don't see in Mexican Natives(the ones not westernized)
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Possibly true.
Do you think Taylor Lautner could pass as Mexican?
http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/82/230x306/82176_twilight-star-taylor-lautner.jpgNo, because he is mixed with Dutch.
Arminfrench
2011-11-22, 03:54
Possibly true.
Do you think Taylor Lautner could pass as Mexican?
http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/82/230x306/82176_twilight-star-taylor-lautner.jpg
No he would stick out.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 03:54
No, because he is mixed with Dutch.
But how apparent is his Dutch ancestry in his face?
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 04:00
But how apparent is his Dutch ancestry in his face?he looks euro, the only thing NA on him is his skin color.
Arminfrench
2011-11-22, 04:02
he looks euro, the only thing NA on him is his skin color.
His skin tone his eyes and his cheekbones, but he has a different admixture to the latin american mestizos, he's of dutch origin + silvid -i guess- so he is more leptomorphic than the average latin american mestizo.
Cheers.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 04:02
he looks euro, the only thing NA on him is his skin color.
And something in his eyes.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 04:04
His skin tone his eyes and his cheekbones, but he has a different admixture to the latin american mestizos, he's of dutch origin + silvid -i guess- so he is more leptomorphic than the average latin american mestizo.
Cheers.That is what makes him look less ambiguos.
Nordenskjöld
2011-11-22, 04:08
I didn't see nothing different about these Chilenos, I was excepting them to be like Uruguayans or Argentinians :confused: these Chilenos can pass for mexicans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5dnCelMxuo
Some can and some cannot, but the majority can't! Paraguayans, and even Peruvians, are more similar to Mexicans between South Americans!
It depends a lot on the video you choose. If you choose a protest, a football team, or miners, of course they're gonna be kinda similar to Mexicans..
But for example, if you choose university students, who are the majority of the young people here, they're not gonna look that similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXVz6Mqyf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiAtOsBeyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBFb7ibfIU4
Peruvians, both have a big number of amerindians.
Arminfrench
2011-11-22, 04:20
Some can and some cannot, but the majority can't! Paraguayans, and even Peruvians, are more similar to Mexicans between South Americans!
It depends a lot on the video you choose. If you choose a protest, a football team, or miners, of course they're gonna be kinda similar to Mexicans..
But for example, if you choose university students, who are the majority of the young people here, they're not gonna look that similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXVz6Mqyf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiAtOsBeyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBFb7ibfIU4
"Norden", I'm not arguing with you because I have seen everybody attacks you and I dont wan to be just "another one" of those who attack you but you're writing nonsense...
I'm sure Miners are more representative of the average Chilean than the University Students.... You know?, In Mexico there are also University students and you would be really surprised the kind of people you can find in Mexican Privare Universities I'm sure Mecxican University students are three times or maybe for times the quantity you can find in Chilean Universities... and guess what? 80% of them are caucasic.
You deffo need to go out more often....:whoco:
Nordenskjöld
2011-11-22, 04:35
1.- Thank you? haha
2.- Miners are from Northern Chile, where people are darker. It's like I said someone from Chiapas is the average Mexican.
3.- Mexico has almost 7 times the population of Chile so it wouldn't be really weird for you to have 3 or 4 times the quantity of university students.
4.- I'm not talking about Private Universities, I'm talking about Traditional Universities, like the UNAM.
5.- I surely go out more often than you, old timer!
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 04:41
Mexicans can look like all of the above choices and beyond, some obviously more frequently than others.
But of the choices, at least where i'm from, common locals tend to resemble Levantines or Sicilians the most, i'd say.
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Arminfrench
2011-11-22, 04:42
Nordden, Univerity students arent representative of the average population, not in Mexico and sure nor in Chile.
The miners would be more representative of the average population and foot ball players too for sure.
And this is everything I have to say to you, you head is hard as a rock I see why everybody seems to hate you over here....
Nordenskjöld
2011-11-22, 04:43
Stop creating accounts haha why can't you not being in the forum for a while? Obsessed.
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Armin! Most of young people in Chile -MORE than 50%- study at the university! So stop believing you know Chile as your hand when you haven't even actually been here. Football players aren't representative at all. I live here, mate.
I really care being hated in a forum haha.
Mexicans can look like all of the above choices and beyond, some obviously more frequently than others.
But of the choices, at least where i'm from, common locals tend to resemble Levantines or Sicilians the most, i'd say.
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7071/foto42004.th.jpg (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/foto42004.jpg/)http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7868/foto42058.th.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/foto42058.jpg/)http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4382/foto42301.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/foto42301.jpg/)http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1360/foto42388.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/i/foto42388.jpg/)http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8651/foto42393.th.jpg (http://img802.imageshack.us/i/foto42393.jpg/)http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2369/foto42394.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/foto42394.jpg/)http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7619/foto42437.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/foto42437.jpg/)http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5901/foto42451.th.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/foto42451.jpg/)http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6689/foto42475.th.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/foto42475.jpg/)http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7959/foto42480.th.jpg 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Ehh,I assume your in Northern Mexico then?I thought there would be Amerindian that would make them stand out?
mariposa
2011-11-22, 04:46
This guy could not fit anywhere in Europe or the Levant, but the woman could be Lebanese.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2078/foto43228.jpg
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 04:51
Ehh,I assume your in Northern Mexico then?I thought there would be Amerindian that would make them stand out?
Nope, i'm from central-western Mexico, of course there are plenty of Amerindians, but the state is fairly harnizo on average.
Hablando de estudiantes y eso me tope con las fotos de la lider del movimiento estudiante en Chile, Camila Vallejo. Que guapa esta:
http://www.contrainjerencia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/camila-vallejo.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rxk9qudOlzg/TlZwpC7t0tI/AAAAAAAADOc/cYca9fry-zg/s320/camila_vallejo-11.jpg
http://mesaredonda.cubadebate.cu/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Camila-Vallejo1.jpg
http://imgb.azumare.com/actualidad/2011/10/07/estudiantes-chilenos-buscan-protestas-alternativas.jpg
Mexicans can look like all of the above choices and beyond, some obviously more frequently than others.
But of the choices, at least where i'm from, common locals tend to resemble Levantines or Sicilians the most, i'd say.
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That makes me laugh so hard. Common? Yeah right... The average Michoacano is much more Amerindian influenced. The guys in your photos are not that representative of Morelia, just because sociales are not representative already, I can post sociales from Mexico DF and they would look much whiter, but that's not representative at all of this city. Also I visited your state of Michoacan, it has a shitload of pure indians.
Maybe you guys already know, anyway, it is said that many of the folks who played roles as ''Mexicans'' in many US western/cowboy movies were Italians.
Maybe you guys already know, anyway, it is said that many of the folks who played roles as ''Mexicans'' in many US western/cowboy movies were Italians.
And? It means nothing. Chinese characters were also played by white actors, native americans were played by white actors, heck, even blacks were played by whites in blackface make up.
And? It means nothing. Chinese characters were also played by white actors, native americans were played by white actors, heck, even blacks were played by whites in blackface make up.
And what? It was just a random fact I thought was interesting.
Tal parece que nadamas vienes a mamar la riata morro.
Ya caile troll.
Tal parece que nadamas vienes a mamar la riata morro.
Ya caile troll.
Obvio. De eso me di cuenta hace rato :confused:
Obvio. De eso me di cuenta hace rato :confused:
Disculpa la expresion pao, pero asi se tiene que tratar a los vatillos que se creen muy cabrones en los foros.
As far as Michoacanos, I don't think they are pred. amerindian at aaaaaaaaalll Many of them live in Guanajuato and at least the ones there, the ones I've met in USA, and the ones Ive met in the north are mostly harnizos. :-| And just because somebody is on a magazine does not make them "sociales" at all.
---------- Post added 2011-11-22 at 01:17 ----------
Disculpa la expresion pao, pero asi se tiene que tratar a los vatillos que se creen muy cabrones en los foros.
Lo entiendo ;) Pero si, ese Legion solo se mete a molestar, la verdad
I wonder where would number 2 and 3 pass?
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7198/img0056lp.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/img0056lp.jpg/)
For some reason I imagine them wearing ushankas hahaha.
And what? It was just a random fact I thought was interesting.
Tal parece que nadamas vienes a mamar la riata morro.
Ya caile troll.
Por que no vas y se la chupas a tu papa, mamon, y le pides mas varo para gastartelo en travestis? Seguro andas triste de que prohibieron los narcocorridos.
---------- Post added 2011-11-22 at 02:00 ----------
As far as Michoacanos, I don't think they are pred. amerindian at aaaaaaaaalll Many of them live in Guanajuato and at least the ones there, the ones I've met in USA, and the ones Ive met in the north are mostly harnizos. :-| And just because somebody is on a magazine does not make them "sociales" at all.
---------- Post added 2011-11-22 at 01:17 ----------
Lo entiendo ;) Pero si, ese Legion solo se mete a molestar, la verdad
Blah blah blah... Ni siquiera conocen Michoacan y opinan. Esa pagina es de sociales, no te hagas mensa.
---------- Post added 2011-11-22 at 02:06 ----------
Noa les da verguenza de estar mintiendo y mintiendo? Todos ustedes son unos acomplejados. No se cual es su pedo de mostrar a un pais con mas sangre europea de lo que tiene. La gente de la ciudad de Guanajuato ni siquiera se distingue del DF por mucho, hasta mas indios se ven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_8fZpmc054
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CupIzyQali8
Ni pueden probar lo que dicen, ya que solo basta postear un video o una foto con mucha gente para destruir sus fantasias.
Marcha en Morelia. Si, claro todos pasan por levantinos y sicilianos.
A ver que otra mentira se avientan troles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8yfUapeT4
Blah blah blah... Ni siquiera conocen Michoacan y opinan.
---------- Post added 2011-11-22 at 02:06 ----------
Ni siquiera les da verguenza de estar mintiendo y mintiendo. Todos ustedes son unos acomplejados. No se cual es su pedo de mostrar a un pais con mas sangre europea de lo que tiene.
Primero que todo, estaba hablando con el dueño del circo... :rolleyes:
Y segundo, de hecho me gusta ser de un país pluricultural. No tengo NADA de que acomplejarme. ¿No viste como me identifico? MEZCLADA. Si no sabes, no opines. Dudo mucho que hayas visitado todo México.
Me chocan los ignorantes como tú comprenderas...que piensan que por qué alguien sale en una revista es un "social" o que con el simple hecho de ser blanco ya tiene más poder.
Uyyy, sí. Pura clase alta y blanca salen en las revistas, no? Porque gente indígena no puede ser fotografiada :rolleyes: Hazme el favor..
http://www.conexionpuebla.com/galeria/albums/xvitzel18junio/DSC01585.jpg
http://www.conexionpuebla.com/galeria/albums/16pilar10sept/DSC02629.jpg
http://www.conexionpuebla.com/galeria/albums/halloween29oct/normal_DSC03977.jpg
No guey, los que nacemos más blancos no nacemos en un pedestal. Ubícate.
Nunca he denegado que no haya mexicanos castizos y blancos, pero a nivel general, predominan en las clases medias altas y altas, la mayoria de la poblacion no es de esas clases y es ridiculo ver la sobrerrepresentacion que les quieren dar.
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Primero que todo, estaba hablando con el dueño del circo... :rolleyes:
Y segundo, de hecho me gusta ser de un país pluricultural. No tengo NADA de que acomplejarme. ¿No viste como me identifico? MEZCLADA. Si no sabes, no opines. Dudo mucho que hayas visitado todo México.
Me chocan los ignorantes como tú comprenderas...que piensan que por qué alguien sale en una revista es un "social" o que con el simple hecho de ser blanco ya tiene más poder.
Uyyy, sí. Pura clase alta y blanca salen en las revistas, no? Porque gente indígena no puede ser fotografiada :rolleyes: Hazme el favor..
No guey, los que nacemos más blancos no nacemos en un pedestal. Ubícate.
No dije que solo blancos y castizos salen en sociales, pero adivina que, si son mayoria y ese es mi punto. Y si, los blancos tienen mas poder social y economico en este pais, es una idiotez negarlo. Ya que la mayoria de ellos es de clases bien, en Mexico el % de blancos pobres es bajo. En cambio el % en la fiesta mas "in" de cualquier ciudad mexicana es mucho mas alto que lo que se ve en las calles. Esos tipos de la ultima foto que son de puebla, son extremadamente raros de ver en la ciudad y yo la visito una ves a la semana por trabajo.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-22, 08:25
Zamora and the surrounding northwestern region seem similar to neighboring Jalisco; pred. Euro for the most part. Not sure about the rest of the state. Tierra Caliente harbored a strong African presence during the colonial period, I don't know how much of it is discernible in the modern Calentano population.
Most of the Michoacanos I know look either 'balanced' or pred. Euro, though there's a few who look a bit more on the indigenous side. One guy looks slightly SSA-influenced.
Nunca he denegado que no haya mexicanos castizos y blancos, pero a nivel general, predominan en las clases medias altas y altas, la mayoria de la poblacion no es de esas clases y es ridiculo ver la sobrerrepresentacion que les quieren dar.
Ay por favor, no jodas. Y más de cuarenta millones de Mexicanos son clase media establecida. Como dije, informate. MUCHA gente de mi familia es blanca y se la han pasado trabajando con igual o más esfuerzo físico que los demás.
Sobrerrepresentación? De qué hablas????? Si todo mundo nos pasa por alto. Como dije, yo sí he pasado mucho tiempo en el centro y norte del país e igual en estados donde va mucha gente de diferentes estados e igual por muchos lugares en EEUU (donde mayoría son de el centro a el sur). Así que sí tengo experiencia para hablar. No una comunidad en el DF por dos meses y ya me siento experto..
mariposa
2011-11-22, 08:35
Of these three they all look very Amerindian but only the one on the far left could pass to many as Asian
http://www.conexionpuebla.com/galeria/albums/xvitzel18junio/DSC01585.jpg
Ay por favor, no jodas. Y más de cuarenta millones de Mexicanos son clase media establecida. Como dije, informate. MUCHA gente de mi familia es blanca y se la han pasado trabajando con igual o más esfuerzo físico que los demás.
Sobrerrepresentación? De qué hablas????? Si todo mundo nos pasa por alto. Como dije, yo sí he pasado mucho tiempo en el centro y norte del país e igual en estados donde va mucha gente de diferentes estados e igual por muchos lugares en EEUU (donde mayoría son de el centro a el sur). Así que sí tengo experiencia para hablar. No una comunidad en el DF por dos meses y ya me siento experto..
:lol: He vivido mas tiempo en este pais, que el que tienes tu en este mundo, y se muy bien de lo que hablo. Ni siquiera me conoces y ya hablas de tonterias. :whoco:
No, lo que me choca no es que tenga su opinión. Me vale gorro. Me molesta que quiera hacer verme de acomplejada como si me "imagino" a gente que no sea indígena en México y nos quiera etiquetear de mentirosos. Ya fuera mentirosa si estuviera hablando de Oaxaca o por el estilo, pero Michoacan???
O sea, no sé el problema de Legion pero sea lo que sea, si uno no pone que México es indígena, se la pasa a fregar.
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Ni siquiera me conoces y ya hablas de tonterias. :whoco:
Lo MISMO te puedo decir a ti.
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Of these three they all look very Amerindian but only the one on the far left could pass to many as Asian
http://www.conexionpuebla.com/galeria/albums/xvitzel18junio/DSC01585.jpg
Yeah, I agree, she does look very Asian
No, lo que me choca no es que tenga su opinión. Me vale gorro. Me molesta que quiera hacer verme de acomplejada como si me "imagino" a gente que no sea indígena en México y nos quiera etiquetear de mentirosos. Ya fuera mentirosa si estuviera hablando de Oaxaca o por el estilo, pero Michoacan???
O sea, no sé el problema de Legion pero sea lo que sea, si uno no pone que México es indígena, se la pasa a fregar.[COLOR="Silver"]
Mexico, no es de mayoria indigena, porque dices algo que no mencione jamas? Pero si, Mexico es de una aplastante mayoria mestiza, la mayoria de la gente esta en el rango 50/50. Indigenas predominantemente como 20% seran de la poblacion. No dije que los imaginas, pero blancos mas castizos no superan el 30% de la poblacion mexicana. Si solo hablamos de blancos 10%.
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Zamora and the surrounding northwestern region seem similar to neighboring Jalisco; pred. Euro for the most part. Not sure about the rest of the state. Tierra Caliente harbored a strong African presence during the colonial period, I don't know how much of it is discernible in the modern Calentano population.
Most of the Michoacanos I know look either 'balanced' or pred. Euro, though there's a few who look a bit more on the indigenous side. One guy looks slightly SSA-influenced.
Entonces el video de Morelia que puse es imaginario? La region que tiene frontera con Jalisco, si se parecen a los tapatios, pero el interior, para nada.
Mas como estos, mestizos normales.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8yfUapeT4
Malcolm Z
2011-11-22, 08:51
Stop creating accounts haha why can't you not being in the forum for a while? Obsessed.
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Armin! Most of young people in Chile -MORE than 50%- study at the university! So stop believing you know Chile as your hand when you haven't even actually been here. Football players aren't representative at all. I live here, mate.
I really care being hated in a forum haha.
According to Barro & Lee it's more among the line of 50%, just a little bit under it.
In 2010, by age cohorts:
15 to 19: 15% in tertiary education, 0% completed
20 to 24: 48.8% in tertiary education, 13.6% completed
25 to 29: 41.8% in teriaty education, 17.8% completed
And so on
http://www.barrolee.com/
Mexico, no es de mayoria indigena, porque dices algo que no mencione jamas? Pero si, Mexico es de una aplastante mayoria mestiza, la mayoria de la gente esta en el rango 50/50. Indigenas predominantemente como 20% seran de la poblacion. No dije que los imaginas, pero blancos mas castizos no superan el 30% de la poblacion mexicana. Si solo hablamos de blancos 10%.
:rolleyes:Aún usando tus porcentajes, dejaria el 50% a gente como la que han puesto aquí de mestizos a harnizos. ¿Por qué te duele tanto si uno los usa para representar a grandes porcentajes? ¿Y por qué sigues pasando esta mentalidad tan atrasada de que sólo los "sociales" pueden ser blancos o salir en revistas o ser exitosos o trabajar con empresas o equis cosa?
Sí, muy acomplejada pero en mi vida me identificaría como blanca y menos mi familia.
Ay mira, ya hasta aquí. En serio me choca esa mentalidad y el simple hecho de que quieras hacer ver a México como un país acomplejado. Hasta ser mestizo es muy ambiguo. Perdón pero me irrita tu punto de vista y tu forma de tratar el tema y mucho más como sales atacando según tus prejuicios.
Me doy contigo.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-22, 08:55
If Jalisco and Sonora are genuinely 'harnizo' according to actual admixture studies then I doubt that applies to Michoacan. I'm wagering for a more balanced mestizaje overall, maybe slightly pred. indigenous.
Btw, pertaining to Legion's comment about GTO. being similar to DF, Guanajuato's admixture proportions in Silva-Zolezzi et al. coincided with Lisker et al.'s results for UNAM students: slight Amerindian predominance (~55-60%) for both.
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Entonces el video de Morelia que puse es imaginario? La region que tiene frontera con Jalisco, si se parecen a los tapatios, pero el interior, para nada.
Mas como estos, mestizos normales.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8yfUapeT4
Los videos no los había visto pero tienes razón. Levantinos y sicilianos, ni de chiste...
:rolleyes:Aún usando tus porcentajes, dejaria el 50% a gente como la que han puesto aquí de mestizos a harnizos. ¿Por qué te duele tanto si uno los usa para representar a grandes porcentajes? ¿Y por qué sigues pasando esta mentalidad tan atrasada de que sólo los "sociales" pueden ser blancos o salir en revistas o ser exitosos o trabajar con empresas o equis cosa?
Sí, muy acomplejada pero en mi vida me identificaría como blanca y menos mi familia.
Ay mira, ya hasta aquí. En serio me choca esa mentalidad y el simple hecho de que quieras hacer ver a México como un país acomplejado. Hasta ser mestizo es muy ambiguo. Perdón pero me irrita tu punto de vista y tu forma de tratar el tema y mucho más como sales atacando según tus prejuicios.
Me doy contigo.
Yo solo me referia al post de la persona que posteo fotos de sociales de Morelia, donde el tipo todavia dice que los comunes de Morelia se parecen a levantinos y sicilianos. Ahi lo puedes ver si quieres. Ahi no son representativas de la ciudad, eso es todo. No dije nunca sobre un pais acomplejado, solo de ciertas personas. Como el que posteo las fotos de Morelia. No me refiero a las fotos de mexicanos del thread completo. La mayoria de los mexicanos se identifican como son y ya.
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If Jalisco and Sonora are genuinely 'harnizo' according to actual admixture studies then I doubt that applies to Michoacan. I'm wagering for a more balanced mestizaje overall, maybe slightly pred. indigenous.
Btw, pertaining to Legion's comment about GTO. being similar to DF, Guanajuato's admixture proportions in Silva-Zolezzi et al. were very similar to Lisker et al.'s UNAM students': slight Amerindian predominance (~55-60%) for both.
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Los videos no los había visto pero tienes razón. Levantinos y sicilianos, ni de chiste...
Y luego me andan diciendo troll. Yo trato de ser lo mas objetivo posible.
dbbrainer
2011-11-22, 09:36
Can believe 5 dumbasses voted for puertoricans. We can spot a mexican from a mile away here in P.R. Mexicans come in all shades and forms though cant generalize but the stereotypre does not fi at all with my country.
Can believe 5 dumbasses voted for puertoricans. We can spot a mexican from a mile away here in P.R. Mexicans come in all shades and forms though cant generalize but the stereotypre does not fi at all with my country.
Frankly speaking, apart from exceptions, PRs and Mexicans don't look alike at all.
abenjaldún
2011-11-22, 10:14
Eleven people have chosen Spaniards...
Here, their "identikit picture":
http://desmotivaciones.es/demots/201103/rompetechos2.jpg
Since several people considered Mayans as example of Mexicans in the Mexican vs. Filipinos discussion in this thread, I voted "other" as the real overlap is obviously with Guatemalans/Southern&Yucatan Mexicans in that case. In other words, The central American part of Mexico overlaps with Guatemala.
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 15:28
@Legion, I explained that of the choices, it is common to see people who resemble Levantines and Sicilians more than any other. I most certainly didn't say all of them do, like you're trying to make it seem. Believe me, i'm familiar with my state, so i suggest you quit talking out of your ass. I've been to Jalisco as well and it's pretty similar to (but slightly whiter than) Michoacan. Nonetheless, both are still harnizos on average. I don't think any state can be considered castizo, so quit accusing me of trying to portray Mexico as white. You're acting as if i posted photos of all blond, blue-eyes nordics. :whoco:
Noa les da verguenza de estar mintiendo y mintiendo? Todos ustedes son unos acomplejados. No se cual es su pedo de mostrar a un pais con mas sangre europea de lo que tiene. La gente de la ciudad de Guanajuato ni siquiera se distingue del DF por mucho, hasta mas indios se ven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_8fZpmc054
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CupIzyQali8
Ni pueden probar lo que dicen, ya que solo basta postear un video o una foto con mucha gente para destruir sus fantasias.
Marcha en Morelia. Si, claro todos pasan por levantinos y sicilianos.
A ver que otra mentira se avientan troles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8yfUapeT4
Yo he estado en Michoacan, y tu solamente en Morelia? Tampoco te la hagas del saber todo solamente por andar en la cuidad :lol:
La gente de Michoacan no se ven pred. indigenous, tampoco seas un mentiroso :lol: y tampoco Morelia esta lleno de puros "indios"
No me digas que no viste gente asi en Morelia???
http://cdn.animalpolitico.com/files/Marcha_Morelia01-456x303.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/5874340280_d192890483.jpg
Fanaticos de los Monarcas, como ves, hay de todo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKZT2xVI2PU
Aparte de que muchos de los Purepechas ni se ven tan indigenas como los de Sur de Mexico
En fin, los que yo conosco en aqui en California son pred. euro y son los mas blancos aqui en Orange County, con eso te digo todo, wey
y en Guanajuato, tambien no viste gente asi?
http://www.narcored.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/marcha.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MT3Qt9s4lBE/TFDGi_oK6GI/AAAAAAAACtE/i8FMD01-xv0/s1600/100725_Marcha_Guanajuato_somos_todos_0028.JPG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qTvi3OFYGn0/TKyFVZ46ipI/AAAAAAAABaw/7CJTHYcDU9I/s1600/AM.jpg
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 15:55
^ Legion's just a troll, watch him come and say that all those people are socialites. :whoco:
Is this guy Mexican? His name is Frank Rodriguez:
http://www.gossip.it/mondanita/yespica_olympus_summer_village/images/frank_rodriguez_946a.jpg
^ Legion's just a troll, watch him come and say that all those people are socialites. :whoco:
yeah he seems like a troll, but i can show him videos of Michoacanos here in Orange County in crowds, he'll see how pred. euro they look or other videos of Michoacan
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Is this guy Mexican? His name is Frank Rodriguez:
http://www.gossip.it/mondanita/yespica_olympus_summer_village/images/frank_rodriguez_946a.jpg
I dont know, I have never heard of him haha
Can believe 5 dumbasses voted for puertoricans. We can spot a mexican from a mile away here in P.R. Mexicans come in all shades and forms though cant generalize but the stereotypre does not fi at all with my country.
Spot? Honestly, Mexicans are muuuuuuuuuuuuuch more diverse than PRs. :| If anything, PRs would be easier "spotted".
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 16:55
Frankly speaking, apart from exceptions, PRs and Mexicans don't look alike at all.Exactly, there are the PR who look like them, but the majority doesn't look alike Mexicans.
PS I was one of those dumbasses lol!!
mariposa
2011-11-22, 17:10
Spot? Honestly, Mexicans are muuuuuuuuuuuuuch more diverse than PRs. :| If anything, PRs would be easier "spotted".
Puerto Ricans have a third component in greater amount - the African. So I would think Puerto Ricans are more diverse.
Puerto Ricans have a third component in greater amount - the African. So I would think Puerto Ricans are more diverse.
In greater amount, yes, but that's not to say it couldn't be found in Mexico.
What I mean is if anybody told me they were Mexican, I wouldn't really doubt it or be surprised. I've seen all from the country even people heavily mixed with African.
But I can't say the same thing the other way around.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 17:23
In greater amount, yes, but that's not to say it couldn't be found in Mexico.
What I mean is if anybody told me they were Mexican, I wouldn't really doubt it or be surprised. I've seen all from the country even people heavily mixed with African.
But I can't say the same thing the other way around.You can see some PR who look pred indigenous, despite ther geno is not pred native, but they are more common here in the island than in the diaspora, the same for pred afro ricans.
dbbrainer
2011-11-22, 17:30
We are more diverse and for many reasons.
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A lot of Puertoricans have a 4th component. However, that is not to say that all components infuence in the phenos leading me to believe P.R. is more diverse.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 17:40
A lot of Puertoricans have a 4th component. However, that is not to say that all components infuence in the phenos leading me to believe P.R. is more diverse.
Yes, the American one, but there a re only a few of us who have that ancestry(Probably from General Miles soldiers)
Is this guy Mexican? His name is Frank Rodriguez:
http://www.gossip.it/mondanita/yespica_olympus_summer_village/images/frank_rodriguez_946a.jpg
If he didn't have the Spanish last name I would of think he is Punjabi.
We are more diverse and for many reasons.
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A lot of Puertoricans have a 4th component. However, that is not to say that all components infuence in the phenos leading me to believe P.R. is more diverse.
You guys are not more diverse than Mexico
Your island is just very small, while Mexico is a big country with a lot of diversity
http://www.offshorecorporation.com/images/puertorico/i_Puerto-Rico_location_map.gif
windmill
2011-11-22, 17:50
You guys are not more diverse than Mexico
Your island is just very small, while Mexico is a big country with a lot of diversity
http://www.offshorecorporation.com/images/puertorico/i_Puerto-Rico_location_map.gif
i think if you were to grab 4 random mexicans from mexico they would look more or less similar but if you were to grab 4 random puerto ricans then they would vary much more in phenotype
We would have to agree that some Triracial puerto ricans do resemble some Mexican mestizos.
For example; Chayan, Erik Estrada, Luis Fonsi, to name a few.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 17:53
We would have to agree that some Triracial puerto ricans do resemble some Mexican mestizos.
For example; Chayan, Erik Estrada, Luis Fonsi, to name a few.Aren't there Mexicans with some Afro ancestry?
Aren't there Mexicans with some Afro ancestry?
Yes, but the mullatoids in Mexico look a little different judging by what I have seen on the media.
But maybe I'm wrong, I'm not very familiar with the mullatoids in Mexico.
i think if you were to grab 4 random mexicans from mexico they would look more or less similar but if you were to grab 4 random puerto ricans then they would vary much more in phenotype
it depends where in Mexico would they grab those, Mexico is a big country with a lot of diversity, you can find anything out in Mexico from Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, Italians, Polish, Germans, US Americans, Canadians, Central Americans, South Americans ect.
In Puerto Rico can you find that?
You guys cannot compare to Mexico, the only ones would be like Brasil, which is the most diverse Latin American country
windmill
2011-11-22, 18:01
it depends where in Mexico would they grab those, Mexico is a big country with a lot of diversity, you can find anything out in Mexico from Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, Italians, Polish, Germans, US Americans, Canadians, Central Americans, South Americans ect.
In Puerto Rico can you find that?
You guys cannot compare to Mexico, the only ones would be like Brasil, which is the most diverse Latin American country
i am mainly talking about the general population..yea there are asians and europeans in mexico but they are relativley small compared to the whole population of mexico with mexico being a majority mix of spanish and indian and to me most mexicans are within the range of being mestizo, castizo, and spanish looking.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:02
Yes, but the mullatoids in Mexico look a little different judging by what I have seen on the media.
But maybe I'm wrong, I'm not very familiar with the mullatoids in Mexico.Probably because of the different Euro ancestry, PR are moslty Catalan, Canarian and Andalucian descendants while Mexicans are moslty galician or other Spanish region descent.My maternal family is of galician descent, and they look a lot like Mexicans, can't say the same about my paternal one.
Probably because of the different Euro ancestry, PR are moslty Catalan, Canarian and Andalucian descendants while Mexicans are moslty galician or other Spanish region descent.My maternal family is of galician descent, and they look a lot like Mexicans, can't say the same about my paternal one.
Yeah, that could be a factor.
BTW, what do you look like bro? Just curious.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 18:06
Probably because of the different Euro ancestry, PR are moslty Catalan, Canarian and Andalucian descendants while Mexicans are moslty galician or other Spanish region descent.My maternal family is of galician descent, and they look a lot like Mexicans, can't say the same about my paternal one.
This also might be why white Mexicans actually look like peninsular Spaniards to me whereas white Puerto Ricans look more Canarian when I see them. Doesn't Puerto Rican Spanish itself have a lot of Canarian influence?
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:10
Yeah, that could be a factor.
BTW, what do you look like bro? Just curious.look at my avi(I was 5 years on that pic)
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This also might be why white Mexicans actually look like peninsular Spaniards to me whereas white Puerto Ricans look more Canarian when I see them. Doesn't Puerto Rican Spanish itself have a lot of Canarian influence?Canarian and Corsican along with andalucian with some Catalan and Vascongado minority
mariposa
2011-11-22, 18:13
Canarian and Corsican along with andalucian with some Catalan and Vascongado minority
Is the Corsican influence the reason why some Puerto Ricans have Italian sounding names? Or did peninsular Italians immigrate?
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:14
Is the Corsican influence the reason why some Puerto Ricans have Italian sounding names? Or did peninsular Italians immigrate?yes, it is mainly because of the corsican, some Pen Itlaians also migrated but were very few.
Fraticelli, Molinari, Antiogiorgi are an example of Corsican surnames.
windmill
2011-11-22, 18:17
yes, it is mainly because of the corsican, some Pen Itlaians also migrated but were very few.
Fraticelli, Molinari, Antiogiorgi are an example of Corsican surnames.
what exactly are corsicans are they french? italian? or a mix of the two?
i am mainly talking about the general population..yea there are asians and europeans in mexico but they are relativley small compared to the whole population of mexico with mexico being a majority mix of spanish and indian and to me most mexicans are within the range of being mestizo, castizo, and spanish looking.
If you are only comparing those, than we can compare your mestizos, castizos and spanish looking with the mexican ones
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:18
what exactly are corsicans are they french? italian? or a mix of the two?an Italian derived colony of the French, like PR is an hispanic colony of the US. ;)
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If you are only comparing those, than we can compare your mestizos, castizos and spanish looking with the mexican onesSome will do, some will not, as Tainos were Brazilid sub-type while Mex Indians are margid, Itsmid and centralid type.Only a few overlap
windmill
2011-11-22, 18:19
If you are only comparing those, than we can compare your mestizos, castizos and spanish looking with the mexican ones
i think some can look similar but like explained earlier i think castizo and white mexicans look more atlanto med and look like regular spaniards and castizo and white puerto ricans look more canarian and to me they look more like sicilians
look at my avi(I was 5 years on that pic)
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Canarian and Corsican along with andalucian with some Catalan and Vascongado minority
Right on man. :thumbsup:
mariposa
2011-11-22, 18:20
what exactly are corsicans are they french? italian? or a mix of the two?
Corsicans are essentially ethnic Italians who are now part of France.
This also might be why white Mexicans actually look like peninsular Spaniards to me whereas white Puerto Ricans look more Canarian when I see them. Doesn't Puerto Rican Spanish itself have a lot of Canarian influence?
Dont your people have thicker eyebrows? I have always seen that when I went to NY(some of them pluck their eyebrows but the ones who didnt)
Like this mexican guy
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/168304_163879570328892_100001205490969_398681_7260 412_n.jpg
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Some will do, some will not, as Tainos were Brazilid sub-type while Mex Indians are margid, Itsmid and centralid type.Only a few overlap
see, we even have indigenous variety
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:29
see, we even have indigenous varietyI have seen some PR with soem Margid(as there were also Yucatan Natives sent as slaves to the island)but we don't have itsmid or centralid or pueblid, so you are right.
I have seen some PR with soem Margid(as there were also Yucatan Natives sent as slaves to the island)but we don't have itsmid or centralid or pueblid, so you are right.
I remember this mestiza looking PR girl from my high school, she looked like a mestiza with brown skin like indigenous but with dark curly hair, I thought she was mexican, she was in fact PR, that was my first time ever seeing a mestiza looking PR girl
she looked something like this but with dark curly hair
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/318181966_8f5e48538c.jpg
mariposa
2011-11-22, 18:33
This Mexican could pass as a Cypriot, Greek islander, or Turk
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/168304_163879570328892_100001205490969_398681_7260 412_n.jpg
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:35
I remember this mestiza looking PR girl from my high school, she looked like a mestiza with brown skin like indigenous but with dark curly hair, I thought she was mexican, she was in fact PR, that was my first time ever seeing a mestiza looking PR girl
she looked something like this but with dark curly hair
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/318181966_8f5e48538c.jpgYep, they can be found mostly here.
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 18:41
Probably because of the different Euro ancestry, PR are moslty Catalan, Canarian and Andalucian descendants while Mexicans are moslty galician or other Spanish region descent.My maternal family is of galician descent, and they look a lot like Mexicans, can't say the same about my paternal one.
Most likely. I used to think white Puerto Ricans and Cubans had a distinctive look than white Mexicans. I thought it was maybe due to minimal SSA-admixture, but then i found out that those countries were colonized by mostly Canarians. This after i met a Canarian and thought he had that look i'd seen in some Puerto Ricans and Cubans.
Common peoples in the northern Mexican mountains ( except where the tarahumaras have influence):
**Click to enlarge**
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5341/10p10ua.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/i/10p10ua.jpg/)
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:43
Most likely. I used to think white Puerto Ricans and Cubans had a distinctive look than white Mexicans. I thought it was maybe due to minimal SSA-admixture, but then i found out that those countries were colonized by mostly Canarians. This after i met a Canarian and thought he looked like some Puerto Ricans and Cubans i'd seen.You can also see it i our music, PR campesino music can overlap with Southern Spaniard music.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 18:45
Most likely. I used to think white Puerto Ricans and Cubans had a distinctive look than white Mexicans. I thought it was maybe due to minimal SSA-admixture, but then i found out that those countries were colonized by mostly Canarians. This after i met a Canarian and thought he had that look i'd seen in some Puerto Ricans and Cubans.
And Canarians look like some synthesis of Berbers and Spaniards (but leaning more toward Spaniards) and I think this look can be seen in many Puerto Ricans.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:47
And Canarians look like some synthesis of Berbers and Spaniards (but leaning more toward Spaniards) and I think this look can be seen in many Puerto Ricans.That is also why PRs also ovrlap with North Africans, because of the Canarian influence.
mariposa
2011-11-22, 18:49
That's true too. Also both Moroccans and Puerto Ricans have some SSA influence.
Tenochkatl
2011-11-22, 18:56
The Spanish in Mexicans is overwhelmigly peninsular, from various regions. It seems like Conversos were pretty numerous as well during the colonial period, at least in West-central Mexico and Northern Mexico. Basque surnames and ancestry are markedly widespread in the North as well.
There's hardly any significant Canarian ancestry compared to the Caribbean. I think the French had a stronger impact than them.
This Mexican could pass as a Cypriot, Greek islander, or Turk
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/168304_163879570328892_100001205490969_398681_7260 412_n.jpg
That vato kinda looks like Decimator with a chin beard.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 18:56
That's true too. Also both Moroccans and Puerto Ricans have some SSA influence.Like some Mexicans, but Mexicans have the Northwestern Euro influence, thing that PR lack. As my maternla family have galician ancestry, they look like Mexicans.
abenjaldún
2011-11-22, 19:08
And Canarians look like some synthesis of Berbers and Spaniards (but leaning more toward Spaniards) and I think this look can be seen in many Puerto Ricans.
About Canarians...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsVCUopWetA
Those who can speak Spanish, pay attention to the accent...
Like some Mexicans, but Mexicans have the Northwestern Euro influence, thing that PR lack. As my maternla family have galician ancestry, they look like Mexicans.
Now I know why I get so dark in the summer, it is just in my genes from both sides. :p
Galicians:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3518/image011307.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/image011307.jpg/)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6633/image021307.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/image021307.jpg/)
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:10
About Canarians...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsVCUopWetA
Those who can speak Spanish, pay attention to the accent...
"The user has not made this video available to your country"
Lol!!!!
Most likely. I used to think white Puerto Ricans and Cubans had a distinctive look than white Mexicans. I thought it was maybe due to minimal SSA-admixture, but then i found out that those countries were colonized by mostly Canarians. This after i met a Canarian and thought he had that look i'd seen in some Puerto Ricans and Cubans.
I was going to mention this before, but I never know what 'interpretation' my comments would get on these forums:lol:
This tells me you have real world experience with these groups and a good eye. Since I am more used to the Caribbean types, from my viewpoint, I thought the difference was due to perhaps white Mexicans having some small Amerind. component which gave them a suble difference, forgetting the fact that all LatinAmerican countries didn't get the exact same Iberian or Euro ancestral component.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:14
For the ones who can't see the video, watch this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j40G7s1n_3A&feature=fvst
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The integrnats of El Sueño de Morfeo looks more like Mexicans than PR
abenjaldún
2011-11-22, 19:26
Now I know why I get so dark in the summer, it is just in my genes from both sides. :p
Galicia is the most "strange" Spanish zone, phenotipically.
Galicians:
http://pictures.todocoleccion.net/fot/2006/12/11/3957385.jpg
http://www.vigoalminuto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Beiras.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/794177/Susana%20Seivane.jpg
http://www.laregion.es/imagenes/elementos/335_maria-castro.jpg
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2mDBCoNoWs_VZ_SVH3v06R46pKn4cQ XZ8-yQjki0-KOQ0s1Q_mSlKCEOgew
http://www.wikinoticia.com/images/Series_Blog/www.seriesblog.es.wp-content.uploads.2010.07.La-que-se-avecina-Judith-y-las-dudas-235x300.jpg
http://www.maketon.com/imagenes_noticias/grandes/1302215649-primaveraprobig.jpg
http://www.con2bemoles.com/upload/berroguetto.jpg
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:28
Because Galicia is the most Indo-European influenced, the Moors did got there, they only limited to Central Spain.Galicia is mostly of Roman-Celt ancestry.
There is the province with the same name as my maternal name: Vigo.
abenjaldún
2011-11-22, 19:30
because Galicia is the most Indo-European influenced, the Moors did got there, they only limited to Central Spain.Galicia is mostly of Roman-Celt ancestry.
There is the province with the same name as my maternal name: Vigo.
Vigo is not a province, but a town...
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:32
Vigo is not a province, but a town...
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
Yes, is of the prvince of Ponteveedra.I don't know where from PSain my great-gradnpa came form, but could he had come form there, I just can't say he was from Vigo just because that was his last name.
abenjaldún
2011-11-22, 19:48
In any case, I sincerely think the most of the people around here have a very wrong idea about how the average Spaniard look like.
Interesting exercise: which of the persons that appear in this video are Spaniards?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZV2pNs-7c0
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:50
We know that Spaniards have not a definite look and that it varies from regions, like the HIspanic American look veries by country and regions inside those countires.
abenjaldún
2011-11-22, 19:53
We know that Spaniards have not a definite look and that is varies from regions, like the HIspanic American look veries by country and regions inside those countires.
Well...
That is not as clear as you state it.
In fact, when I go to other regions in Spain, people know where I come from by the accent.
Except some (very few) Galicians, Andalusians, Canarians and Basques, the rest can pass in everywhere.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:54
Well...
That is not as clear as you state it.
In fact, when I go to other regions in Spain, people know where I come from by the accent.
Except some (very few) Galicians, Andalusians, Canarians and Basques, the rest can pass in everywhere.Yes, as Spaniards are familairzed with their people, I can also spot a PR by the accent, the same to a mexican and a Peruan.
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 19:55
In any case, I sincerely think the most of the people around here have a very wrong idea about how the average Spaniard look like.
Interesting exercise: which of the persons that appear in this video are Spaniards?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZV2pNs-7c0
What if instead of Spanish in general, the option was Galicians and Basques (since these are the most common Spanish ancestries in Mexico), would you still complain? :p
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 19:58
Here is an article about the Spanish migration to PR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico
Immigration to the island caused the population to grow rapidly during the 19th century. In 1800 the population was 155,426 and ended the century with almost a million inhabitants (953,243), multiplying the population by about six times. The main component responsible was the Royal Decree of Graces of 1815 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Decree_of_Graces_of_1815) which led to immigrants from some 74 countries arriving. Included were hundreds of Corsican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico), French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico), Irish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico), German (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico), Lebanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_people), Maltese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_people) and Portuguese families moving to the island. Some countries were represented by only a few (51 Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico) individuals for example). The country that still sent the most people was Spain.
From the start of colonization other groups from Catalonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalonia), Asturias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturias), Galicia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Spain)), and Majorca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majorca) had also immigrated, although the Canarian people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarian_people) formed the basis. Once the 19th century came, things changed drastically. According to Puerto Rican authors such as Cifre de Loubriel who researched the immigration wave patterns made to the island, during the 19th century the greatest number of Spaniards that came to the island with their families were Catalans and Mallorcans from the nearby Mediterranean regions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Basin).
The second most common Spanish region with the largest numbers were the Galicians and Asturians, and the third regions were Canary Islanders, Basques and Andalusians. The Catalans, Galicians, Mallorcans and Asturians would come with whole families most of the time. There were regions of the island that attracted some immigrants more than others which was mainly for political or economic reasons.
In 2009, there were 520 Galician (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_people) born people in Puerto Rico.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico#cite_note-8)Wow, I didn't know about the Galician part.
Maroon King
2011-11-22, 20:10
Look at these dudes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyCDr_ojV4&feature=related
He looks very Euro admixed but not Mexican though, cause his Euro looks Anglo.
jibarodepr
2011-11-22, 21:27
He looks very Euro admixed but not Mexican though, cause his Euro looks Anglo.probably because he is too much Euro amdixed(an Anglo Euro) but I can't say the same for the pred NA ones.
Maroon King
2011-11-22, 21:28
probably because he is too much Euro amdixed(an Anglo Euro) but I can't say the same for the pred NA ones.
Yeah I agree
Malcolm Z
2011-11-22, 21:57
So few choices. I'd have voted for other latin american countries, like Paraguay, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, etc. The option I voted for was Chile, the one that came closest.
Maroon King
2011-11-22, 22:18
To me Mexicans as a whole look most like their Central American neighbors.
So few choices. I'd have voted for other latin american countries, like Paraguay, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, etc. The option I voted for was Chile, the one that came closest.
Yeah, I think those countries come alot closer than Hawaii, Cambodia, etc.
Nordenskjöld
2011-11-22, 22:54
So few choices. I'd have voted for other latin american countries, like Paraguay, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, etc. The option I voted for was Chile, the one that came closest.
All those countries would've gotten more votes than Chile, but the poll is very tendentious, as the person who created it.
To me Mexicans as a whole look most like their Central American neighbors.
Agreed, but not on my side of Central America ;)
Arminfrench
2011-11-22, 23:00
I would conclude that in Mexico you can find phenotypes that overlap with every sigle one of the poll's options.
Maroon King
2011-11-22, 23:07
Agreed, but not on my side of Central America ;)
Yes, like the Mestizolizeans and Mayalizeans.
mexikanisch
2011-11-22, 23:08
All those countries would've gotten more votes than Chile, but the poll is very tendentious, as the person who created it.
Just as tendentious as you. Why don't you open a thread about who overlaps with Chileans and make the choices all European countries, you mestizo-with-blue-contacts, you. ;)
Yes, like the Mestizolizeans and Mayalizeans.
Agreed, Mennonites too:p. Mexico has some them. I was refer to the Caribbean coast region as a whole, not just Belize
Maroon King
2011-11-22, 23:18
Agreed, Mennonites too:p. Mexico has some them
I was thinking if Garifuna could overlap with the darker AfroMexicans but mi nah know if a true.
I was thinking if Garifuna could overlap with the darker AfroMexicans but mi nah know if a true.
Not really. AfroMexicans tend to be a little more Amerind influenced, usually more Zambo
Maroon King
2011-11-22, 23:22
Not really. AfroMexicans tend to be a little more Amerind influenced, usually more Zambo
Yeah but I've seen certain AfroMexican individuals on videos who didn't look that Amerind, they looked predominantly African like Garifuna but I'm talking about an even smaller amount of people since it's only one segment of the AfroMexican population I seen look like this.
Yeah but I've seen certain AfroMexican individuals on videos who didn't look that Amerind, they looked predominantly African like Garifuna but I'm talking about an even smaller amount of people since it's only one segment of the AfroMexican population I seen look like this.
Agreed
Particula
2011-11-23, 00:02
not mexican but i have been confused with south american on occasions, here is my pic: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=23612
we have the same hair color
were you blonde as a child too?
@Legion, I explained that of the choices, it is common to see people who resemble Levantines and Sicilians more than any other. I most certainly didn't say all of them do, like you're trying to make it seem. Believe me, i'm familiar with my state, so i suggest you quit talking out of your ass. I've been to Jalisco as well and it's pretty similar to (but slightly whiter than) Michoacan. Nonetheless, both are still harnizos on average. I don't think any state can be considered castizo, so quit accusing me of trying to portray Mexico as white. You're acting as if i posted photos of all blond, blue-eyes nordics. :whoco:
WTF? You are contradicting yourself, mate. First you say that it's common to see people who resemble sicilians more than any other, and in the same post you say that they are harnizos on average. I visited all of Morelia, The area that borders Jalisco looks similar, but the interior has indigenous people in significant quantities, why are you even deniyng that?
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Yo he estado en Michoacan, y tu solamente en Morelia? Tampoco te la hagas del saber todo solamente por andar en la cuidad :lol:
La gente de Michoacan no se ven pred. indigenous, tampoco seas un mentiroso :lol: y tampoco Morelia esta lleno de puros "indios"
No me digas que no viste gente asi en Morelia???
Fanaticos de los Monarcas, como ves, hay de todo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKZT2xVI2PU
Aparte de que muchos de los Purepechas ni se ven tan indigenas como los de Sur de Mexico
En fin, los que yo conosco en aqui en California son pred. euro y son los mas blancos aqui en Orange County, con eso te digo todo, wey
y en Guanajuato, tambien no viste gente asi?
Cuando dije que no existen, Dios? Ustedes como que ni quieren leer. Si, si hay gente asi. Ellos que tienen? No dije que son pred. indigenous, solo que el estado tiene muchos indios y eso es verdad.
Con ese video muestras totalmente que la gente de Morelia en general no hace overlap con levantinos y sicilianos, gracias por probar mi punto.
La mayoria de los Mexican-Americans en California son gente de los Altos de Jalisco y sus alrededores, que tambien se extienden hacia partes de Michoacan. Siempre para mi la gente de los altos ha sido fenotipicamente de lo mas europeo de mexico y siempre lo he mencionado.
Sobre GTO, si he visto gente asi. Pero en Guanajuato la poblacion general son mestizos normales, con ligera predominancia amerindia. En mi comentario dije que se parecen a la gente del DF y Tenochkatl me mostro un estudio que prueba que estoy en lo correcto. Aqui esta:
Guanajuato's admixture proportions in Silva-Zolezzi et al. coincided with Lisker et al.'s results for UNAM students: slight Amerindian predominance (~55-60%) for both.
mexikanisch
2011-11-23, 02:46
WTF? You are contradicting yourself, mate. First you say that it's common to see people who resemble sicilians more than any other, and in the same post you say that they are harnizos on average. I visited all of Morelia, The area that borders Jalisco looks similar, but the interior has indigenous people in significant quantities, why are you even deniyng that?
Dude, quit trolling. The majority of Michoacanos range from mestizo to castizo, making the state harnizo on average, capici? How exactly is that contradicting? Do you think saying the state is harnizo on average means i'm saying each and everyone is harnizo? :whoco:
Dude, quit trolling. The majority of Michoacanos range from mestizo to castizo, making the state harnizo on average, capici? How exactly is that contradicting? Do you think saying the state is harnizo on average means i'm saying each and everyone is harnizo? :whoco:
I don't disagree with that. I disagree with this. Your own words:
"But of the choices, at least where i'm from, common locals tend to resemble Levantines or Sicilians the most, i'd say."
Oh really?
Sicilian volley team
http://sicilia.volleymaniaweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/modica-casual.jpg
Lebanese team
http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/00/49/77/497700_1_O.jpg
Yeah, right...
Above looks are not uncommon at all
mexikanisch
2011-11-23, 03:42
I don't disagree with that. I disagree with this. Your own words:
Again, i didn't say all of them, but a notable amount of Michoacanos could pass for Levantines or Sicilians.
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