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pakistani
2011-12-11, 17:41
Burusho people are interesting, their language is supposedly not related to any group and isolated. Though it is very obvious they have borrowed from pashto, as I can understand some of the stuff they are saying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DperrMULr70

pakistani
2011-12-14, 23:00
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Azad C*
2011-12-14, 23:07
You can tell they've heavily borrowed from urdu too...at times it's like they're speaking urdu.

enkidu_
2011-12-17, 18:00
A great admirer of the Iranic and Central Asian world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_N._Frye) has something to say about the peoples, more than the language, though, which may have been influenced by their Wakhi-speaking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakhi_people) and Shina-speaking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shina_language) immediate neighbours a bit more than Pashto, I think.


The aborigines of Central Asia probably were few in number and of unknown identity, although, according to some scholars, possibly related to the present Burushaski speaking people, also called Hunzakuts. But this is mere speculation since probably some peoples who no longer exist were absorbed by the Iranians leaving no traces. Yet the Burushaski speakers present us with an enigma which needs explanation.
From stories by the Burushaski speaking people of Hundza in northern Pakistan that their ancestors lived in the Yarkand-Khotan regions of Xinjiang, on might suggest that the proto-Burushaskis extended over a much larger territory before the coming of the Indo-European speaking peoples.
Burushaski is unrelated to the Tibeto-Burman, Dravidian, Altaic or Indo-European families of languages and, like Basque in the Pyrenees and several tongues of the Caucasus, may be a relic of languages spoken by aborigines in Central Asia before the expansion of the Indo-European speakers.
For the latter ranger far, from India and China to the Atlantic Ocean mostly in the second millennium B.C.E.
Thus, before the coming of the Indo-Europeans, we may assume that Central Asia was occupied by a number of peoples, speaking languages which have disappeared, or of which the last traces are Burushaski and Dravidian speakers. Possibly long vanished Elamite, or languages related to Mannean or Urartian, also had representatives in Central Asia...

Richard Nelson Frye, "The heritage of Central Asia from antiquity to the Turkish expansion", pp. 32-33

pakistani
2011-12-17, 18:29
^ interesting, yeah I always wanted to know what was the area of (Pakistan) like before the indo aryan came, we still have so many mysteries about the indus valley civilization

enkidu_
2011-12-17, 23:23
That's Shahid Akhtar Qalandar, apparently the most famous singer in the language; I think it's alright to assume that, in terms of phenotype, they look like their neighbours, Pashtuns or Dardic peoples (Koshur-speaking Kashmiris found in India mainly, Khowar-speaking Chitralis, ...)

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/296892_226848300711893_213500122046711_616108_2550 66193_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/296892_226848297378560_213500122046711_616107_2027 696265_n.jpg

Some others:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3125/3122552822_789856abaf_b.jpg
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http://i45.tinypic.com/2ldgiua.jpg
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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2249/1713223688_43fb2aa3d1_b.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6228/6253705122_e958cc54ec_o.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6014/6009110674_a6c0c4692e_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2164/2360352356_f5b933548e_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2380/2148659159_e85aeeca35_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6480403021_fd53e4f8e5_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3240/2949358779_c3265dbe85_z.jpg?zz=1

pakistani
2011-12-18, 02:06
^ nice pics, btw those hats are really common in the region, the first pic (hat) I also have it at home