View Full Version : What's the best place for a black person to live in?
Malcolm Z
2010-03-03, 18:56
Considering average income, discrimination, criminality, health care, etc.
I'd say Canada is a pretty good place, followed by Barbados and then the US. The US could win on absolute terms in several criteria, but I feel that racial discrimination/segregation is still very present in day-to-day activities.
Decimator
2010-03-03, 18:56
Nazi germany or Apartheid Era South Africa :)
Maybe for
Africa:Angola,Tanzania or Botswana Namibia.
Europe:Some use to say the UK. Ireland looks ok. but I don't know about the rest of Britain today. Maybe some place like Norway or Sweden.
Caribbean. Turks and Caicos,Bahamas,Bermuda Barbados Curacao Aruba Martinique.
North America: Canada. or any U.S city that has a lot of immigrants. Otherwise it should be pretty hard adjusting.
I don't think Canada, the U.S., Europe or Latin America, or other places are that good, because Blacks are discriminated minorities. Africa is too poor.
I bet the best place is the British Caribbean, where there are many countries that have a high standard of living, are quite prosperous, and that are administered by Black people.
Aware_Dog
2010-03-03, 19:26
It depends on the economic status of the individual. If the individual has cash already, then I'd say anywhere the person is comfortable living at without being constantly reminded that he is/looks/speaks different from the common folks around him, so for my case it would be in Ethiopia, to even be more specific Addis Ababa. If you don't have any cash and are still needing to 'come up' however, the least obstructions a black person would face to achieve his fiscal goals than anywhere else in the world is most likely in the United States, preferably a well established cosmopolitan area, D.C., NYC or even Chicago is decent to, really anywhere in U.S. would do though if push came to shove.
I wouldn't mind moving to the Caribbean. Canada seems a little to cold. The US in material terms is probably the best.
The Lion Cub
2010-03-03, 19:35
Africa
Considering average income, discrimination, criminality, health care, etc.
I'd say Canada is a pretty good place, followed by Barbados and then the US. The US could win on absolute terms in several criteria, but I feel that racial discrimination/segregation is still very present in day-to-day activities.
Considereing average income, criminality and health care would disqualify most third world nations, so that leaves US/Canada/Europe/Australia/Japan, etc.
Strictly considering a lack of discrimination based strictly on skin color/phenotype then qualifies alot more countries. I'll say this: If you're of a relatively high socioeconomic class (professional, eduated and/or wealthy) you will live comfortably in probably many countries.
I don't think Canada, the U.S., Europe or Latin America, or other places are that good, because Blacks are discriminated minorities. Africa is too poor.
I bet the best place is the British Caribbean, where there are many countries that have a high standard of living, are quite prosperous, and that are administered by Black people.
I don't hear much about discrimination coming from Canada. The British Caribbean or Dutch French, Martinique) are not first world nations, so sizeble numbers of people are not living as good as you would see in a first world nation. You will also find illegal immigrants of all kinds are unwelcome, like in most nation. Also some of these small countries have existed with small populations for so long, that they're not always welcoming outsiders, as you would expect in large nations. Some see it as xenophobia, but only some one from a small place would understand the since of community. Illegal Guyanese in Barbados are not welcome or have a hard time since they are seen as using up little resources. Al though they are blending into Barbados.There are quite a few Guyanese in the Bahamas these days but they have become teachers etc,and done well for the most part. Haitians on the other hand have a harder time intergrating since they are so many for such a small nation. Its extremely costly. And its the same in Martinique and Guadeloupe. That's why these governments are trying to make things better in Haiti.
JackKnightstick
2010-03-03, 21:16
From a material aspect, America. Black people here have more opportunities, more power, and more wealth than anywhere in the world.
From a psychological, peace-of-mind aspect, I would say the Caribbean. An island like the Bahamas, Trinidad, Bermuda, etc. These places have fairly high living standards, but people are laid back, and everyone is black, so no need to worry about any type of racial discrimination, although there is class discrimination. Well, Trini is half Indian...maybe they do have some race issues, but it is not that bad, from what I read...no major violence or anything.
After that, if talking about Europe, I would say France or the UK
I know of some Nigerians(nearly all business people) and other black West Indians in the Bahamas. Some of my secondary school teachers were from Jamaica,Barbados Trinidad and Guyana. Also Filipinos (usually nurses and medical field) and Mexicans (construction and building) live well. But I wouldn't advise anyone, black or white,who is unskilled, can't read or write to move to any country and expect to be welcome with open arms or easy life. Actually I take back what I said about the UK, since many black people there have done well. I forgot to add France. So have other West Indians although one group :) have gain a reputation for not being so nice. Cayman island I forgot about them.
A good place for Black people to live? HUM... Hell.
Considering average income, discrimination, criminality, health care, etc.
I'd say Canada is a pretty good place, followed by Barbados and then the US. The US could win on absolute terms in several criteria, but I feel that racial discrimination/segregation is still very present in day-to-day activities.
No anglo saxon society is good for minorities. I mean, you might have better job opportunities than in most Latin American countries, but you will always be a second class citizen. (Same goes for most european countries, but if i have to choose one, i'd rather go for France and even Spain than UK.
I would say the best ones would be Trinidad, Barbados, St.Lucia and some other islands in the caribean, also Cuba and Dominican Republic , in africa there'es, Maldives, Mauritius , Ghana is becoming a very nice place too. Try to avoid arab countries where blacks, specially foreign workers (along with other foreigns like asians) are almost slaves.
My top 5: Mauritius, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Ghana, Cuba
No anglo saxon society is good for minorities. I mean, you might have better job opportunities than in most Latin American countries, but you will always be a second class citizen. (Same goes for most european countries, but if i have to choose one, i'd rather go for France and even Spain than UK.
I would say the best ones would be Trinidad, Barbados, St.Lucia and some other islands in the caribean, also Cuba and Dominican Republic , in africa there'es, Maldives, Mauritius , Ghana is becoming a very nice place too. Try to avoid arab countries where blacks, specially foreign workers (along with other foreigns like asians) are almost slaves.
My top 5: Mauritius, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Ghana, Cuba
Have you been to France or Spain? I never once saw any black person doing anything other than manual labour/grunt work/low skilled jobs in France, and they seemed to be treated very poorly by all other citizens and even tourists.
At least in the UK people seem to be trying, I wouldn't say all black people here are treated like second class citizens, most of them seem to be doing alright (outside of London) and fairly well-assimilated, especially in comparison with the next largest minority (South Asians).
Have you been to France or Spain? I never once saw any black person doing anything other than manual labour/grunt work/low skilled jobs in France, and they seemed to be treated very poorly by all other citizens and even tourists.
At least in the UK people seem to be trying, I wouldn't say all black people here are treated like second class citizens, most of them seem to be doing alright (outside of London) and fairly well-assimilated, especially in comparison with the next largest minority (South Asians).
I live in Britain (not in london) , and basically, most blacks are here doing manual labour/grunt work/low skilled jobs. Same as in France or Spain (where i have also lived) There are exceptions of course, specially among those blacks who have been in UK for generations, but so there are exceptions in Spain and France too.
Inmigrants (at least poor inmigrants) are second class citizens throughout europe. However, at least in my experience (i have been an inmigrant in both Spain , France and Britain) and that of most of the inmigrants that i have been in touch with in the three countries, Britain gets (by far) the worst opinions And i am not talking only about non european inmigrantion. European inmigrants (and i dont mean students, or relocated people, but real inmigrants who moved in search of bette roportunities) would ran away from UK if they could. Actually, before the Crisis started to hit hard , many where changing Britain for Spain (Even Brits seem to think so, since there's more than a million brittish inmigrants already there, and its not anymore just retired elderly, but thousands of young people too) Even today, in the middle of the crisis, many prefer to be in Spain (if the economy it's gonna be fucked anyway, at least we live in a nicer country) lol thats my opinion
I live in Britain (not in london) , and basically, most blacks are here doing manual labour/grunt work/low skilled jobs. Same as in France or Spain (where i have also lived) There are exceptions of course, specially among those blacks who have been in UK for generations, but so there are exceptions in Spain and France too.
Inmigrants (at least poor inmigrants) are second class citizens throughout europe. However, at least in my experience (i have been an inmigrant in both Spain , France and Britain) and that of most of the inmigrants that i have been in touch with in the three countries, Britain gets (by far) the worst opinions And i am not talking only about non european inmigrantion. European inmigrants (and i dont mean students, or relocated people, but real inmigrants who moved in search of bette roportunities) would ran away from UK if they could. Actually, before the Crisis started to hit hard , many where changing Britain for Spain (Even Brits seem to think so, since there's more than a million brittish inmigrants already there, and its not anymore just retired elderly, but thousands of young people too) Even today, in the middle of the crisis, many prefer to be in Spain (if the economy it's gonna be fucked anyway, at least we live in a nicer country) lol thats my opinion
I think most immigrants prefer a better way of living, and would rather overcome the racism. I have not heard anything good about blacks in Spain,despite it being a former slave colony. While I have seen successful blacks in France. I think most British prefer Western nations like Australia New Zealand Canada or the USA. ie other anglophone nations. Maybe Spain as well.
EiCibaeño
2010-03-04, 00:36
My top 5: Mauritius, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Ghana, Cuba
Based on what? Unless they have some technical skill I wouldn't suggest it.
I think Whites/Europeans shouldn't even be discriminating against black/west indian workers. Since there are plenty of Europeans and Americans cutting taxes in the Bahamas,Caymans and Bermudas.
Bec and Lleyton Hewitt set up house in the Bahamas
Lleyton and Bec Hewitt buy home in Bahamas Location is a well-known tax haven Pictures: Bec and Leyton Hewitt
LLEYTON Hewitt has set up an overseas base in the Bahamas.
The former world No. 1 and his wife Bec secretly bought a property on the Atlantic Ocean tax haven in February.
The couple made the decision to set up home in the Bahamas because of its climate, lifestyle and proximity to the US - where Hewitt plays a large number of tournaments, the Herald Sun reports.
It is believed few, if any, of Hewitt's neighbours are aware the Wimbledon and US Open winner spends time there.
Hewitt, 28, was last night due to face friend and regular golf partner Rafael Nadal, the current world No. 1, in the third round of the French Open.
Hewitt, who owns properties in his home town Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, has long resisted advice to establish an overseas base.
But a desire to prolong his career by cutting back on long-haul flights to and from Australia prompted a change of mind.
The move paid almost immediate dividends when Hewitt won the US Clay Court Championship in Houston in April, his first title since 2007. Sources said the Hewitts and their two young children are enjoying the privacy of the Bahamas.
The couple complained of being hounded by photographers in the US in March.
The situation came to a head when New Idea ran a story and picture spread about "Bec's other man".
The story claimed she was spending more time with a "hunky" American fitness trainer the magazine dubbed "Minder Mark".
The man was Bec's brother, Shaun Cartwright.
Hewitt is the latest in a long line of Australian tennis players and golfers to live offshore.
Pat Rafter was based in Bermuda for much of his career - and was criticised on becoming Australian of the Year, as Bermuda is a tax haven.
Tennis pros pay tax in the country where they earn prizemoney and also to the Australian Tax Office.
Pat Cash (London), Mark Philippoussis (US) and several others lived abroad.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/bec-and-lleyton-hewitt-set-up-house-in-the-bahamas/story-e6frfmqi-1225718276650
My top 5: Mauritius, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Ghana, Cuba
LOL wut?
sturmgewehr
2010-03-04, 12:05
Africa
Malcolm Z
2010-03-04, 12:59
No anglo saxon society is good for minorities. I mean, you might have better job opportunities than in most Latin American countries, but you will always be a second class citizen. (Same goes for most european countries, but if i have to choose one, i'd rather go for France and even Spain than UK.
I would say the best ones would be Trinidad, Barbados, St.Lucia and some other islands in the caribean, also Cuba and Dominican Republic , in africa there'es, Maldives, Mauritius , Ghana is becoming a very nice place too. Try to avoid arab countries where blacks, specially foreign workers (along with other foreigns like asians) are almost slaves.
My top 5: Mauritius, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Ghana, Cuba
I don't know about Cuba, man. It's a communist dictatorship suffering an embargo from the United States. Everything I read is about people wanting to move out of that island (going on boats to Mexico or Florida, trying to move to the US, sportsmen asking for asylum, etc), not in.
Breedingvariety
2010-03-04, 13:42
Mississippi and Louisiana.
At least in the UK people seem to be trying, I wouldn't say all black people here are treated like second class citizens, most of them seem to be doing alright (outside of London) and fairly well-assimilated, especially in comparison with the next largest minority (South Asians).
Trevor Philips agrees - he said that the UK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1121442/TREVOR-PHILLIPS-Why-Britain-LEAST-racist-country-Europe.html) is the least racist place in Europe.
BlackEGO
2010-03-05, 02:37
Atlanta, Ga
Mississippi and Louisiana.
Cross the 1st one off and you're good. Mississippi is full of the most vicious racists, Louisiana's much better.
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Sweden.
Probably pretty damn good, I doubt better than the Bahamas tho.
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Singapore.
:lol: Good one! Quite the knee-slapper!
Although I think Sweden has higher living standards,and probably less corruption and more development, since its not third or second world. The Bahamas has no taxes, and great weather and a nice backfall.
Although I think Sweden has higher living standards,and probably less corruption and more development, since its not third or second world. The Bahamas has no taxes, and great weather and a nice backfall.
I'm sure you're right with the living standards, but I doubt these standards are universal for all swedes.
Africa. The choice of country is yours :).
I personally prefer Nigeria (Abuja/Lagos come to mind) - but this is because it's my home.
In the following order:
-Canada
-Progressive, wealthy and white American states (Washington and Oregon top that list)
-Barbados
-Puerto Rico.
Eri,the original poster is from Africa, and he didn't pick any African country. Botswana in south africa, is listed as a rich nation so is Equatorial Gueina, infact higher than some English speaking Caribbean nations.
A popular Web site has compiled a list of the 10 richest independent countries in the Caribbean, and as expected, The Bahamas came out on top.
Aneki.com, a well-known independent Canadian Web site which derives its information from numerous sources, including United Nations agencies and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency's World Factbook, ranked The Bahamas at number one with a $21,300 per capita gross domestic product (GDP).
Oil-rich Trinidad and Tobago was ranked as the second richest with a GDP of $19,700, a position which would usually have been held by Barbados, which ranks at number three with a GDP of $18,200.
Antigua and Barbuda, St. Kitts and Nevis, Dominican Republic, St. Lucia, Jamaica, Cuba and Grenada were among the 10 in descending order. An interesting observation which can be made about the list, however, is the rise of Trinidad and Tobago as a regional economic power.
That country is now the fifth largest exporter of liquefied natural gas (LNG) in the world. The expansion of Atlantic LNG over the next four years could create the largest-single sustained phase of economic growth in the twin-island republic. It has become the leading exporter of LNG to the United States, supplying approximately 70% of the market.
In 2006, unemployment fell to 5% down from 6.7% in 2005. Trinidad and Tobago's economic growth in 2006 reached a staggering 12.6% as prices for oil, petrochemicals, and liquefied natural gas remained high, and foreign direct investment continued to grow to support expanded capacity in the energy sector.
According to the Department of Statistics, Bahamas' GDP grew by an estimated 4.2 per cent in current prices and 3.4 per cent in constant prices in 2006,
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is the monetary value of all the finished goods and services produced within a country's borders in a specific time period.
In the category of richest countries in the world, Luxembourg came in first with $68,800 per capita. Equatorial Guinea, United Arab Emirates, Norway, Ireland, United States, Andorra, Iceland, Denmark and Austria were in descending order on the list.
Aneki.com is an independent, privately operated website based in Montreal, Canada. It is dedicated to promoting wider knowledge of the world's countries and regions. The website serves as a comprehensive source of continental and world rankings in an increasing number of categories.
http://www.aneki.com/caribbean_richest.html
El Andullero
2010-03-05, 13:50
Belize, formerly known as British Honduras. The Guyanas could also enter in the list, specially the almost uninhabited french one.
EiCibaeño
2010-03-05, 15:23
Atlantis, Mu, or Lemuria.
African continent or Jamaica.
Given the nature of this thread's question, any posts here that attempt to answer it with seriousness are inherently restrained by mis/preconceptions. They are by no means intentional; after all, most of the people who have posted so far are not "black" (i.e. people with African ancestry). Attempting to answer this question through the eyes of "black" person also has it's limitations, as the individual would be deficient in the typical experiences felt by "black" people.
Essentially, a non-"black" cannot truly answer this question, as they haven't lived a life through the eyes of a "black" person. One can match their own analogous experiences with them, but that isn't a substitute. If this question was directed towards the "black" users of this forum, I think the posts that'd follow would be more informative in nature.
To deviate from the posts made so far, I have my own answer. The best place for a "black" person to live in, is wherever they, as individuals, feel most safe and comfortable.
Othuroyo
2010-03-05, 17:16
Defiently Sweden. No competition.
Breedingvariety
2010-03-05, 17:43
Atlantis, Mu, or Lemuria.
Haven't you heard it's farewell Atlantis in 2012
To deviate from the posts made so far, I have my own answer. The best place for a "black" person to live in, is wherever they, as individuals, feel most safe and comfortable.
That's no answer at all.
I'd say Canada and The Netherlands could be considered rather tolerant and economically strong countries. USA and UK are going down, IMO. But you could find some US states (no more than 10) that could fare better and are tolerant. Later I might check which states these could be.
Mississippi of the North...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/burning-cross-ignites-racial-tension-in-nova-scotia/article1480350/
Maybe Toronto/Montreal in Canada, but other than that whoever thinks Canadians outside of the biggest cities are all for racial harmony are very wrong, from my POV. So if you're going to say Canada based on a few cities, than you can say the U.S. too and there are more options in the U.S.
snowy567
2010-03-05, 18:23
we've tons of balck people in hongkong too..
Malcolm Z
2010-03-05, 18:27
Mississippi of the North...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/burning-cross-ignites-racial-tension-in-nova-scotia/article1480350/
Maybe Toronto/Montreal in Canada, but other than that whoever thinks Canadians outside of the biggest cities are all for racial harmony are very wrong, from my POV. So if you're going to say Canada based on a few cities, than you can say the U.S. too and there are more options in the U.S.
Police in Nova Scotia have arrested two young men after a weekend cross-burning incident, an act that shocked whites but reconfirmed for many blacks their nickname of the province as the Mississippi of the North.
In a scene reminiscent of the Old South, a black man and a white woman living near Windsor woke to find a large flaming cross on their yard. A noose dangled from it and they could hear shouts of die nigger die.
What the hell? Mayba Canada isn't such a good place after all...
Nephilim
2010-03-05, 18:40
What the hell? Mayba Canada isn't such a good place after all...
It depends on the area of Canada. In some places its worse if you are Native like in most Western provinces. Blacks here are usually not cared about much. Most them though are educated and professionals, and they value education so that could be the reason.
I have yet to hear brutal hate crime. Alberta is often said to be one of the most racist provinces but I really doubt that, the old generation tend to be some what Xenophobic and prejudiced rather than racists which is something different.
Interracial marriages are quite common to.
It depends on the area of Canada. In some places its worse if you are Native like in most Western provinces. Blacks here are usually not cared about much. Most them though are educated and professionals, and they value education so that could be the reason.
I have yet to hear brutal hate crime. Alberta is often said to be one of the most racist provinces but I really doubt that, the old generation tend to be some what Xenophobic and prejudiced rather than racists which is something different.
Interracial marriages are quite common to.
Great points,nephilim. Of all the canadians I've meet I have yet to meet a openly racist one. Maybe it has something to do with all countries not being too comfortable to new comers. Immigrants from all races are not always welcome with open arms.
we've tons of balck people in hongkong too..
Lol, I doubt they're happy tho.
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Mississippi of the North...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/burning-cross-ignites-racial-tension-in-nova-scotia/article1480350/
Maybe Toronto/Montreal in Canada, but other than that whoever thinks Canadians outside of the biggest cities are all for racial harmony are very wrong, from my POV. So if you're going to say Canada based on a few cities, than you can say the U.S. too and there are more options in the U.S.
Not surprising. I never thought Canada was so Black-friendly like many in this thread seem to think, this confirms this.
whitefan415
2010-03-05, 19:07
Definitely US. With the support from powerful black activist group (e.g. NAACP, reverends Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton), liberal-controlled media, black favoring affirmative action, I can't find any nation that offer amenities for black like US. Yes, discrimination still exists against black that's because many blacks are still living in poverty and high crime rates associated with blacks but it is fading away as Black are getting the upper hand or else Obama would never got elected.
Although there is a difference between the attitudes of governments and the attitudes of people. I think there still is an ingrained difference in the winds of Americans that no government measure will ever tackle successfully.
Definitely US. With the support from powerful black activist group (e.g. NAACP, reverends Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton), liberal-controlled media, black favoring affirmative action, I can't find any nation that offer amenities for black like US. Yes, discrimination still exists against black that's because many blacks are still living in poverty and high crime rates associated with blacks but it is fading away as Black are getting the upper hand or else Obama would never got elected.
To be honest, you have to admit that intermixture is atleast partly the reason.
Breedingvariety
2010-03-06, 20:09
Economically or otherwise dangerous states in USA:
-Washington D.C. should be extremely avoided;
-East Coast states plus Michigan, Illinois;
-West Coast states plus Nevada, Arizona.
Economically or otherwise safe states in USA:
-North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska;
-Montana plus other Rocky Mountains states;
-Texas, Ocklahoma, Kansas;
-Extreme North of Wisconsin, specifically- Bayfield County.
Are any of safe states tolerant to aframs?
That was all IMO.
Breedingvariety
2010-04-19, 09:12
Top 3 most dangerous cities of USA:
1.Washington D.C.
2.Las Vegas
3.St. Louis
Sweden.
Many black people are not fit to live in sweden because of the low sunlight.
High rates of autism have been found in Somali immigrants in Sweden because of vitamin D deficiency.
fatale_noir
2010-04-19, 10:47
the jungle
jk
^ hmm...
I would like more to come to Australia. Black people are welcome here.
Decimator
2010-04-19, 11:32
^ hmm...
I would like more to come to Australia. Black people are welcome here.
Yeah, after all some look like the Natives from there...
Yeah, after all some look like the Natives from there...
I think they would behave better than the natives.
USA, Canada any non slavic european country or if you have money any african country :)
SilverKnight
2010-09-09, 01:50
Atlanta (Georgia, US)
most certainly.
dsong2006
2010-09-09, 02:08
Best place for black people to live? Around white people!!!! because thats where all the nicest neighborhoods are with zero crime and there are good schools for their children to go to. This should be a no brainer!
In Europe, avoid Eastern Europa.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-09, 02:26
Top 3 most dangerous cities of USA:
1.Washington D.C.
2.Las Vegas
3.St. Louis
Shut the fuck up.
DC is not at all dangerous. I've never met one person in DC who was ever hurt in any violent crime, the most I have heard is someone breaking into their cars for GPS. I know a lot of people in DC and every major suburban area from Fairfax County, Alexandria, Arlington (in Virginia), people living in Northwest DC, people living in Southwest DC, I also know people in Northeast DC, Montgomery County and Prince George's (last two are in Maryland).
What Europeans fail to understand about America is most violence is in poor areas that are pretty isolated and the vast majority of crime is between poor people. Almost all the murders and rapes in DC happen in one area, and the victims are almost always black (and increasingly Hispanic, but Hispanic gangs like MS-13 are moving in as well).
DC is divided into 4 quadrants (kind of, they are not all equal), Southeast is the dangerous ghetto area, especially the area along Interstate 295, on the Maryland border.
That being said if you are anywhere else in DC women walk the streets at night ALONE but for some small areas of Northeast, also on the border of Maryland.
I live in the Virginia suburbs, very safe. The Maryland Suburbs are also safe, especially Montgomery County.
The ghetto area is once again along interstate 95, in Prince George's County...but also in the same county just a few miles inland you have majority black areas like Bowie, where the average home is worth US$1 million!! DC black folks (or should I say Maryland ones near DC are likely the richest black folks outside of Atlanta).
Being European and generally ignorant of America and Washington DC you would not know any of this reading about "American conditions" in some Left Wing European rag, that they claim is a "news" paper.
Vegas is a similar story, but I don't know about St. Louis.
:lol:
I 100% co-sign bro. Except for a twenty-year period stretching from the 80s into the early 2000s, DC's never even been in the top 10 crime-wise.
I'm originally from (northwest) DC myself, and having been life-long Heights residents, me and my father never got mugged or had our home/car broken into. That being said though, I did grow up in 1990s DC, so there certainly were a lot of quality-of-life issues that you could see on a regular basis; brawling, graffiti, homelessness, littering, public drunkenness, etc.
I never really found myself in fear for my life though, but the petty stuff was aggravating (fights broke out frequently at my high school, so there was no getting out of it). Despite it all, Columbia Heights was always super-convenient to live around, with the metro and restaurants/major retailers/shops all clustered within walking distance.
The southeast on the other hand's been a shithole for as long as I can remember, heroin hit that area the hardest.
In any case, 2009's top 5 most dangerous cities were:
1. Camden, NJ
2. St. Louis, MO
3. Oakland, CA
4. Detroit, MI
5. Flint, MI
New Orleans was tops in homicide (per-capita), but was edged out by these other five in terms of overall crime.
DragonRouge
2010-09-09, 03:09
What the hell? Mayba Canada isn't such a good place after all...
I'm from Nova Scotia and I can assure you that those cross burners are the exception rather than the rule. Most people in the province came out in support of the couple, and the people who did the cross burning got death threats.
Also, one part of the story is that it was sprung of a family dispute, the girl is related to the kids who burned the cross, and apparently she owed one of them money. That doesn't justify what they did but the people who did it were probably thinking in their stupid minds that that would be the best way to get back at them.
We were all embarassed.
Unurautare
2010-09-09, 03:16
In Europe:Sweden.
In America: a large black community in the USA.
In Europe:Sweden. .
Nordic countries are bad for black people, the high concentration of melanin will block the weak sun rays resulting in a lack of vitamin D thus osteoporosis.
DragonRouge
2010-09-09, 03:28
Nordic countries are bad for black people, the high concentration of melanin will block the weak sun rays resulting in a lack of vitamin D thus osteoporosis.
There are pills for that now, though.
Plus milk and bread is often fortified with vitamin D.
Karl der Große
2010-09-09, 03:33
There are pills for that now, though.
Plus milk and bread is often fortified with vitamin D.
Not for autism cases. Vitamina D directly from the sun is essential for its non-development.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-09, 04:12
Nordic countries are bad for black people, the high concentration of melanin will block the weak sun rays resulting in a lack of vitamin D thus osteoporosis.
That's why we have vitamins, same as white Americans use sunscrean. Is America bad for Anglo-Saxons because of TOO MUCH sun?
I doubt you would make such a corny argument in reverse.
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Not for autism cases. Vitamina D directly from the sun is essential for its non-development.
autism is rare in blacks. I've lived in America my entire life, and just about all of America is North of SubSahara Africa and I never heard of a black person with autism, I'm sure it exist but it is rare (and they are likely highly admixed with whites).
Karl der Große
2010-09-09, 04:19
Nordic countries are bad for black people, the high concentration of melanin will block the weak sun rays resulting in a lack of vitamin D thus osteoporosis.
It's strongly high among the natives imagine among sub-saharan Africans. Black-Africans are a humanid adapted by evolution to live in the tropics.
That's why we have vitamins, same as white Americans use sunscrean. Is America bad for Anglo-Saxons because of TOO MUCH sun?
I doubt you would make such a corny argument in reverse.[COLOR="Silver"]
Calcium, vitamin D pills don't help heart: study (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6205AQ20100301) from Reuters
Pills are not as useful as the UV rays are in the production of vitamin D.
If you insist, the option is using a sunbed 20 min/day without sunscreen, of course skin cancer is a side effect.
Karl der Große
2010-09-09, 05:11
autism is rare in blacks. I've lived in America my entire life, and just about all of America is North of SubSahara Africa and I never heard of a black person with autism, I'm sure it exist but it is rare (and they are likely highly admixed with whites).
A lot of Somali children in Scandinavia, Netherlands and Finland are being born with autism because of the non-physical adaptation to the climate, maybe some other poster can confirm this.
Well the mothers and young children are exposed to much less sunshine in their new homes than they were back in tropical sub-saharan Africa. Lighter-skinned people make more vitamin D than dark-skinned people do when exposed to less sunshine, so it’s easy to imagine that the Somalis are getting relatively little vitamin D.
The North Pole.
Santa Claus [WHO IS NOT FINNISH] has a black henchman, and from all accounts he's treated well.
The North Pole.
Santa Claus [WHO IS NOT FINNISH] has a black henchman, and from all accounts he's treated well.
Still the same problem with the vitamin D.
DragonRouge
2010-09-09, 05:41
I'm skeptical of a link between vitamin D and autism.
Lack of vitamin D has been linked to MS, though, and white folks who get MS are the lighter than average ones who are usually so light that they cannot be out in the sun long enough to get sufficient vitamin D (I mean the type who burn within 15 minutes, since even white folks require at least 5 hours of sun exposure daily).
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The North Pole.
Santa Claus [WHO IS NOT FINNISH] has a black henchman, and from all accounts he's treated well.
Santa Claus is Canadian. The North Pole belongs to Canada. Got in this argument with a friend last night, who claimed he was German. He may be ethnically German, but he for sure carries a Canadian passport.
I'm skeptical of a link between vitamin D and autism.
Already a thousandth time that I post it here :p A Swedish study of a liberal institution on the subject;
A few researchers are turning their attention to the sunshine vitamin as a culprit, prompted by the experience of immigrants that have moved from their equatorial country to two northern latitude locations.
As evidence of widespread vitamin D deficiency grows, some scientists are wondering whether the sunshine vitamin—once only considered important in bone health—may actually play a role in one of neurology's most vexing conditions: autism.
The idea, although not yet tested or widely held, comes out of preliminary studies in Sweden and Minnesota. Last summer, Swedish researchers published a study in Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology that found the prevalence of autism and related disorders was three to four times higher among Somali immigrants than non-Somalis in Stockholm.
The study reviewed the records of 2,437 children, born between 1988 and 1998 in Stockholm, in response to parents and teachers who had raised concerns about whether children with a Somali background were overrepresented in the total group of children with autism.
In Sweden, the 15,000-strong Somali community calls autism "the Swedish disease," says Elisabeth Fernell, a researcher at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm and a co-author of the study.
Source:http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=vitamin-d-and-autism
Santa Claus is Canadian. The North Pole belongs to Canada. Got in this argument with a friend last night, who claimed he was German. He may be ethnically German, but he for sure carries a Canadian passport.
Santa Claus is American. He lives in North Pole, Alaska.
Well i can certainly tell you its NOT eastern-europe. You will get lynched over there.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-09, 12:50
Calcium, vitamin D pills don't help heart: study (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6205AQ20100301) from Reuters
Pills are not as useful as the UV rays are in the production of vitamin D.
If you insist, the option is using a sunbed 20 min/day without sunscreen, of course skin cancer is a side effect.
I doubt most black people would get skin cancer from that. I've been in the sun all day long in Vietnam, last year, I mean from about 8AM to at least 4PM walking around, no sun screen (never use that stuff) and not even a hint of skin irritation let alone a burn. LOL I did get darker though (everyone tans), you just don't notice it on black people unless you see them undress and their face is way darker than their chest, etc.
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A lot of Somali children in Scandinavia, Netherlands and Finland are being born with autism because of the non-physical adaptation to the climate, maybe some other poster can confirm this.
Well the mothers and young children are exposed to much less sunshine in their new homes than they were back in tropical sub-saharan Africa. Lighter-skinned people make more vitamin D than dark-skinned people do when exposed to less sunshine, so it’s easy to imagine that the Somalis are getting relatively little vitamin D.
Okay don't move to Finland, focus on Italy. :lol: Central and Southern Italy are about the latitude as about 1/2 the U.S. and autism is not a problem among blacks in America...
Then again as I said, this is like saying whites don't belong in America, especially the South...because their rate of skin cancer increases, they belong in NOrthern Europe (most Anglo Americans anyway) that is a weakass pathetic argument.
Most Somalis in Nordic nations don't get autism or rickets or whatever, they just have an increased risk, it is not as if every 4 Somali children are sick or some bullshit.
Okay don't move to Finland, focus on Italy. :lol: Central and Southern Italy are about the latitude as about 1/2 the U.S. and autism is not a problem among blacks in America...
You are welcome, we need more sla... cough... workers. Naples is the ideal place the food is good and the level of criminality is almost the same than any crak neighborhood in the USA, they even have some hip-hop artist and drug dealers.:D
JackKnightstick
2010-09-09, 13:43
You are welcome, we need more sla... cough... workers. Naples is the ideal place the food is good and the level of criminality is almost the same than any crak neighborhood in the USA, they even have some hip-hop artist and drug dealers.:D
Naples is also filthy, my father has been there many times when he was in the U.S. Navy...no thanks.
I was in Italy two years ago and wanted to stop by Naples to see friends.
Sanitation strike for over a year. The city was filled with trash and smelled even worse than it usually does. I took a rain check.
Eldritch
2010-09-09, 20:43
Definitely Sweden, Norway and Finland.
Lots of welfare benefits and social housing with nothing expected in return.
These countries also have very liberal criminal policies, so that it's almost impossible to get deported. Also if by some miracle you do end up in jail, the prisons are basically like health farms.
There's also plenty of neo-Marxist multicultural indoctrination going on targeted at the host population.
China. It must be interesting biodiverse
Naitsirhc
2010-09-09, 21:20
Why do people keep saying Sweden? I am curious.
China. It must be interesting biodiverse
I heard they are very racist.
They call the black people heiguizi 黑鬼子, which literally translates as black devil.
Dont worry they have other pejoratives term for the whites too.:mad: They dont like foreigns.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laowai
Unurautare
2010-09-09, 23:21
Why do people keep saying Sweden? I am curious.
Socialists,like french,but even more so + they need and have integrated foreigners into their society to help them pay for their socialist expenses.
slick willy
2010-09-09, 23:23
Definitely Sweden, Norway and Finland.
Lots of welfare benefits and social housing with nothing expected in return.
These countries also have very liberal criminal policies, so that it's almost impossible to get deported. Also if by some miracle you do end up in jail, the prisons are basically like health farms.
There's also plenty of neo-Marxist multicultural indoctrination going on targeted at the host population.
Can you get away with living in Scandinavia and only speaking English? I know a Kenyan university colleague who went to Gothenburg for his graduate studies and AFAIK he did not know any Swedish. He told me he is treated like a king there, unlike the cesspool that is Canada, which surprised me. He also bragged about him getting along quite well with the Swedish ladies who seem to have a thing for intellectual negroes.
That's why we have vitamins, same as white Americans use sunscrean. Is America bad for Anglo-Saxons because of TOO MUCH sun?
I doubt you would make such a corny argument in reverse.
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autism is rare in blacks. I've lived in America my entire life, and just about all of America is North of SubSahara Africa and I never heard of a black person with autism, I'm sure it exist but it is rare (and they are likely highly admixed with whites).
I know four Nigerian/Igbo kids with Autism.... but they were born/raised in the USA.
I heard they are very racist.
They call the black people heiguizi 黑鬼子, which literally translates as black devil.
Dont worry they have other pejoratives term for the whites too.:mad: They dont like foreigns.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laowai
Found these videos. I do not generalize though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8TmQ9gkQh0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYE4qRLlHIs&feature=related
Socialists,like french,but even more so + they need and have integrated foreigners into their society to help them pay for their socialist expenses.
Pufft.. give me fucking break!
I feel that the best places for blacks to live without discrimination would definitely be the Caribbean for one, maybe next would be countries from the African continent, and then France and the UK.
The UK and France are probably the most black-friendly countries in Europe.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-09, 23:57
I heard they are very racist.
They call the black people heiguizi 黑鬼子, which literally translates as black devil.
Dont worry they have other pejoratives term for the whites too.:mad: They dont like foreigns.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laowai
Chinese call everyone "devil" something, usually as a joke, they think it is funny, it is not actually meant to be "hateful".
They called Japanese Riben guizi or xiao Riben (Japanese Devil, Little Japanese)
They call Koreans - Bangzi (no idea the meaning)
All nonAsian foreigners can be Laowai (old foreigner) this is actually qualoquial and respectful.
The official word for foreign is "wai guo ren" (outside country person) but most people don't use it, it is the same characters in Japanese (gaikokojin, which is shortened to gaijin).
They also call white people dabizi (big nose), sometimes in Cantonese they call them "red head devils" but forgot how to say that (no, the white person doesn't actually have to have red hair)
If they want to be racist they can call you a "hairy barbarian" a "hairy ape" etc.
Blacks they call call monkeys (houzi)...
Barbarian is Yeman, but I've rarely ever heard that said, and I speak enough Mandarin to know when someone is speaking about me.
In general no Asian nation is "good for blacks" as a Western nation, but no Asian nation is good for "whites" either as a Western nation would be, because Asians are tribalistic and there is only so far they will allow a foreign to get in society (at least East Asians) foreigners have a "place" there is no such thing as "integration", it is based on blood more or less. They discriminate probably more against each other than Westerns in my experience. For example, it is better to be a black American in Japan, than a Chinese from the Mainland, trust me. I've known Chinese people in Japan who get treated like garbage but I was never treated like that, not saying Japanese "love blacks" they don't but there are different levels of discrimination and hatred. A black American will generally be treated much better than an African. A black American will likely also be treated better than a Russian, but not better than a Frenchman, white American, etc.
In any case, China still doesn't have good opportunity for most of its citizens, let alone some black immigrant although there are hundreds of thousands of blacks that live in China (Guangzhou, Shanghai, and Beijing mostly) they have niche jobs or they are students, almost all are from West and Central Africa.
IN Asia, according to the places I've been I would rank them like this, as far as black folks:
Best to worst
1) Japan
2) Hongkong
3) Taiwan
4) South Korea
5) Mainland China
6) Vietnam (they are actually much nicer to blacks than people in China, but there is not much opportunity there.)
6) Cambodia (not because people are mean, but because there is little to no opportunity)
A few blacks I have met in Asia told me the best place is actually Thailand the the Philippines, but I was not in Thailand long, so I can't give a good reading, I was really really just a tourist...never been to the Philippines, my father has, he said it was very nice, people were very nice, kind.
I have to give this forum credit. Everyone talks about how racist we supposedly are, but this has gone nearly 100 posts and nobody's answered that the best place for black people is "prison". I figured that would've been at least within the first two pages.
Cheers!
LOL wut?
LoL indeed. Cuba, appart from being seriously fucked up, it´s extremely racist.
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The UK and France are probably the most black-friendly countries in Europe.
I dont why the BNP got 1 million votes then
Unurautare
2010-09-10, 00:53
Pufft.. give me fucking break!
Swedish government made pro-immigrants actions for a reason.:whoco:
I dont why the BNP got 1 million votes then
The BNP are far more anti-Muslim than they are anti-black. Why else do you think they would embrace Jews? Because they share a common enemy.
The best place for a black person to live is Africa. :thumbsup:
LoL indeed. Cuba, appart from being seriously fucked up, it´s extremely racist.
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I dont why the BNP got 1 million votes then
In the 2007 French elections the Front National got 4,000,000 and its a smaller country, in the Netherlands Geert Wilder's Freedom Party got 1,435,349, in Switzerland the Swiss People's Party get's 30% of the national vote and their campaign posters include a white sheep kicking a black sheep out of the Swiss flag.
Why do people always pick up on the BNP, when most other major European countries have similarly right-wing parties who have much more support in Europe than the BNP does in the UK? The BNP struggles to elect a few council members.
Before he died (and it was subsequently leaked that he may or may not have been a poof) Joerg Haider was one of the most powerful politicians in Austria, and he was far-right by most estimations. The BNP is rather weak compared to continental parties, but because they're in the Anglosphere there's more emphasis on their performance.
Haiti :D the 1st republic with a black majority.
Haiti :D the 1st republic with a black majority.
I wouldn't mind living in Haiti.
Haiti :D the 1st republic with a black majority.
Earthquates and militias galore, I bet they regret declaring a republic now.
Earthquates and militias galore, I bet they regret declaring a republic now.
I bet you not a single one of them do.
I bet you not a single one of them do.
Not a single one? Surely someone in Haiti must have an IQ above 60?
Not a single one? Surely someone in Haiti must have an IQ above 60?
They do, coupled with pride.:lol:
In the 2007 French elections the Front National got 4,000,000 and its a smaller country, in the Netherlands Geert Wilder's Freedom Party got 1,435,349, in Switzerland the Swiss People's Party get's 30% of the national vote and their campaign posters include a white sheep kicking a black sheep out of the Swiss flag.
Why do people always pick up on the BNP, when most other major European countries have similarly right-wing parties who have much more support in Europe than the BNP does in the UK? The BNP struggles to elect a few council members.
Because the BNP is way more radical and the only one that didnt allow non-white members.
The Front National and the other parties that you mentioned are not racist. They have members and voters from different backgrounds.
Being against immigration or Islam is not racism.
A racist party showing a mulatta on its own
propaganda?
Because the BNP is way more radical and the only one that didnt allow non-white members.
The Front National and the other parties that you mentioned are not racist. They have members and voters from different backgrounds.
Being against immigration or Islam is not racism.
A racist party showing a mulatta on its own
propaganda?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeWpD98e84
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/bnp/7239396/BNP-votes-to-allow-non-white-members-into-party.html
The BNP has a few token Sikhs and blacks, this one is being interviewed on the BNP's own Youtube channel. The fact remains the FN are a far more potent force in French politics than the BNP are in British politics. The BNP are no less racist than the FN, their policies are actually rather similar.
I think the truth of the matter is you don't like British people and want to paint them as more racist than your country, rather than any informed comparison of the differences between far right British and far right European parties.
I take in you're Spanish? Black people have a far harder time in Spain than they have in the UK, but that's understandable - Britain has been assimilating black people since the 1950s while Catalonia didn't even start receiving black immigrants until the 1980s, and other more backward parts of Spain didn't even start seeing black faces to the early 90s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeWpD98e84
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/bnp/7239396/BNP-votes-to-allow-non-white-members-into-party.html
The BNP has a few token Sikhs and blacks, this one is being interviewed on the BNP's own Youtube channel. The fact remains the FN are a far more potent force in French politics than the BNP are in British politics. The BNP are no less racist than the FN, their policies are actually rather similar.
I think the truth of the matter is you don't like British people and want to paint them as more racist than your country, rather than any informed comparison of the differences between far right British and far right European parties.
I take in you're Spanish? Black people have a far harder time in Spain than they have in the UK, but that's understandable - Britain has been assimilating black people since the 1950s while Catalonia didn't even start receiving black immigrants until the 1980s, and other more backward parts of Spain didn't even start seeing black faces to the early 90s.
BNP is way more racist than the FN, nobody can discuss that because it´s too obvious. BNP decided this year (2010!) to allow non-white members http://www.euronews.net/2010/02/15/bnp-votes-to-allow-in-non-white-members/
The FN was always opened for everybody and the propaganda with the mulatta that i´ve posted before is from 2007...
And in Spain neonazi parties like the BNP dont get 1 million votes, but 10,000 at most
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And in Spain neonazi parties like the BNP dont get 1 million votes, but 10,000 at most[/QUOTE]
So what, the FN allows a few token non-whites for propaganda? What the fuck does that prove, are non-white French lining up to join the neo-nazi FN, I think not.
Also, if Spain had a concious I am not suprised people don't vote for far-right parties, up until the mid-70s you were run by a neo-nazi nutjob that the people loved. You have suprised Basque and Catalan culture for so long I'm glad you've finally learnt some respect.
The fact remains the Front National is absolutely no different in policy to the BNP, except for the fact the FN gets 4,000,000 votes while the BNP gets only 500,00.
You're obviously some bitter Spaniard who hates British people in the South of Spain. Grow up you insular racist.
FN is not neonazi. Actually is accused by neonazis of being traitors and multicultural. In fact, FN has good relations with the jews because of the mutual anti-islam feeling. A very Nazi thing right? I thought they were more like the opposite, but you´re totally clueless about what a nazi is.
Franco wasn´t a nazi beither :whoco:, not even close, just read a history book because I dont wanna explain obvious things.
I didnt suprise any culture and I´m not from the northwest, not from the south. The english population in Galicia is not higher than ¿5? I´ve never seen one around here.
EiCibaeño
2010-09-10, 04:12
FN has good relations with the jews because of the mutual anti-islam feeling. A very Nazi thing right? I thought they were more like the opposite, but you´re totally clueless about what a nazi is.
You're right, it usually is the opposite. Some fascist/neo-nazi groups side with Palestine/Palestinians against Israel (though I'm sure they hate Palestinians, they just hate Jews more).
And in Spain neonazi parties like the BNP dont get 1 million votes, but 10,000 at most
Nazism was never big in Spain. La Falange were mostly reactionary Catholics with a few fascists, but virtually no Hitlerites.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-10, 12:50
You're right, it usually is the opposite. Some fascist/neo-nazi groups side with Palestine/Palestinians against Israel (though I'm sure they hate Palestinians, they just hate Jews more).
It's different.
They fear Jews, because they think Jews control the world or are trying to do so.
Arabs are a minor threat to that, hating them is really like I hate roaches.
Hating jews is like I hate big as bears or lions that can rip me apart at will. :)
They fear Jews, because they think Jews control the world or are trying to do so.
Muslims have a better chance at controlling the world than Jews these days, being scared of Jews over Muslims is a very out-dated outlook.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeWpD98e84
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/bnp/7239396/BNP-votes-to-allow-non-white-members-into-party.html
The BNP has a few token Sikhs and blacks, this one is being interviewed on the BNP's own Youtube channel. The fact remains the FN are a far more potent force in French politics than the BNP are in British politics. The BNP are no less racist than the FN, their policies are actually rather similar.
I think the truth of the matter is you don't like British people and want to paint them as more racist than your country, rather than any informed comparison of the differences between far right British and far right European parties.
I take in you're Spanish? Black people have a far harder time in Spain than they have in the UK, but that's understandable - Britain has been assimilating black people since the 1950s while Catalonia didn't even start receiving black immigrants until the 1980s, and other more backward parts of Spain didn't even start seeing black faces to the early 90s.
Well it isn't much of a surprise that in Britain blacks are more assimilated while as for Spain I've seem noticed that blacks do tend to have much more problems while they are there.
Articles that proves why:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4024167.stm
http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2008/08/11/spain-bring-racism-to-the-olympic-games
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3306476.ece
Well it isn't much of a surprise that in Britain blacks are more assimilated while as for Spain I've seem noticed that blacks do tend to have much more problems while they are there.
Articles that proves why:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4024167.stm
http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2008/08/11/spain-bring-racism-to-the-olympic-games
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3306476.ece
Amazing proof. Some stupid jokes are now considered "racism". The chineses said that it was fine and that they weren´t offended at all btw, but of course brits and american have to scream "racism!" for everything because the race obsession in the anglosphere doesn´t exis in the rest o the world.
The point is that in Spain we´re less politically correct, this is less hypocrites. We can make jokes about blacks,germans, gays or other spaniards (tons of jokes about galicians, catalans, basques, andalusians...) and nobody gonna scream like a crazy bitch like it happens in the US or in the UK for example. When you treat blacks as a different and overprotected group, then that is real racism.
I´ve only one black friend (from Ivory Coast with frech nationality livng in Madrid) and he´s part of our group like everyone else. This is , we can mock him as the rest are mocked too. So stupid jokes about his dick size or about his invisibility at nights are as common as the jokes against me about cocaine (Galicia is the gate of this drug in Europe).
Hypocrisy is to see racism everywhere except in your own country where you´ve 1 million people voting for the neonazis. A very friendly face that hides a racist soul. Brits love to do that though. That´s why they were talking during centuries about the Spanish Inquisition while at the same time they were exterminating entire races in North America and Australia.
nametaken
2010-09-10, 21:12
Any place BUT Europe.
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Well i can certainly tell you its NOT eastern-europe. You will get lynched over there.
I hope it stays that way. There is no place for them there. Niggers are in Hungary already now and in other White nations. It just cannot do.
Any place BUT Europe.
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I hope it stays that way. There is no place for them there. Niggers are in Hungary already now and in other White nations. It just cannot do.
No offence, but no one's really checking for Eastern Europe like that. Most of the Africans are economic migrants, and Eastern European people migrate all over as well.
I guess you guys are 'safe'. :lol:
JackKnightstick
2010-09-11, 13:42
Any place BUT Europe.
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I hope it stays that way. There is no place for them there. Niggers are in Hungary already now and in other White nations. It just cannot do.
Bitch please...no place for your mafia, prostituting, gold digging, visa whoring, cheesy milf porno making, construction working, garbage collecting ass in the US or Western Europe...no one wants you, trust me, not in germany, not in Switzerland, not in Austria, and not in the U.S.
Eastern Europeans where I live are know for 4 things:
Escort Services (whores)
mafia
drunks
construction workers
Where my fiancee is from: Switzerland...they are know for all the above plus
gold digging
human trafficking
welfare fraud
Why is it the poorest and most backward Europeans that live the most pathetic (way worse off than black people in America for example in education, wealth, etc) are the most ignorant racist when they rarely even come into contact with anyone not inbred and backward like them?
Thank God I know some cultured Eastern Europeans, from Moscow, whose parents were intellectuals (who are definitely not ignorant racist like most of the peasant ex-commie shit for brain collectives farmers on this board who probably have an "out house" and get natural gas and electricity only a few times a week, living next to some gypsies village laying around drunk sending their sisters and daughters out to whore themselves so dad and brother can go buy some fucking vodka..."
Bitch please...
Check your fucking attitude.
Without Western Europeans civilizing your ass and giving you technology, funding, real banking systems, demanding you stop being so fucking corrupt and backward, bringing your welfare having ass into the EU, you still wouldn't be SHIT. None of you.
You should get down on your fucking knees and treat the EU elite states as GODS.
Then you should thank the Germanics, like the Austrians, and the old time Swabian Germans for civilizing your fucking ass to begin with...
Now go turn your father on his side so his drunk ass doesn't choke on his own tongue when he throws up all that cheap as vodka.
He ain't shit either.
This is why last time I was in Russia, I had women with PhDs hitting on me wanting me to take them back to America...because a "nigger" from America with a nice job, graduate level education, a home, who works every fucking day, who doesn't hit them, chronically cheat on them, and treats them like a "female" (and not like a farm animals) is better than the average Eastern European man all day every day and they know it.
Seems to me you are so racist because you are jealous,, ain't no one dancing to your backward ass gypsie sounding music or wanting to speak your ass backward overcomplicated stupid grammar languages...but my culture is world wide dominant, Russians and Ukrainians trying to speak my slang, and look all 'down" and shit, rapping, and then call me a "nigger"...LOL Ivan better recognize before I make his sister my "bottom0 bitch" for US$10 a day, after his mother gets through fighting his sister over me for her share of the spoils...with her Babushka want to be sexy again wrinkled over make up wearing ass...
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No offence, but no one's really checking for Eastern Europe like that. Most of the Africans are economic migrants, and Eastern European people migrate all over as well.
I guess you guys are 'safe'. :lol:
No offense, fuck that, stop acting colonized and let that bitch no what time it is.
Bitch please...no place for your mafia, prostituting, gold digging, visa whoring, cheesy milf porno making, construction working, garbage collecting ass in the US or Western Europe...no one wants you, trust me, not in germany, not in Switzerland, not in Austria, and not in the U.S.
Isn't that a Russian stereotype? I thought she was from Azerbaijan.
Isn't that a Russian stereotype? I thought she was from Azerbaijan.
There's no way she's (he?) from Azerbaijan. I've never heard someone from Azerbaijan spew such crap.
Well, there's no way to prove gender, but an IP check would prove nation of origin. Proxies are fairly obvious, too.
Sargon999
2010-09-11, 14:01
The U.S. definitely. I had no idea there are around 40 million Blacks or Aframs there. I thought they were around 25 million.
The U.S. definitely. I had no idea there are around 40 million Blacks or Aframs there. I thought they were around 25 million.
I think 40's a bit much. I think the Census said that they're 10%, which would be thirty million, but if he wants to round up to 40, that's still a low number considering there are over 50 million German-Americans. :p
Bitch please...no place for your mafia, prostituting
Bitch please...
Check your fucking attitude.
I'm glad that there is no niggers in Eastern Europe
Eldritch
2010-09-11, 14:20
Can you get away with living in Scandinavia and only speaking English? I know a Kenyan university colleague who went to Gothenburg for his graduate studies and AFAIK he did not know any Swedish. He told me he is treated like a king there, unlike the cesspool that is Canada, which surprised me. He also bragged about him getting along quite well with the Swedish ladies who seem to have a thing for intellectual negroes.
What was this person studying there if I may ask?
Escort Services (whores)
mafia
drunks
construction workers
Ok...what's wrong with construction workers?Is it illegal or smth?And ur views seems more like stereotypes to me...I even doubt u were in Russia or Ukraine.
Sargon999
2010-09-11, 14:50
I think 40's a bit much. I think the Census said that they're 10%, which would be thirty million, but if he wants to round up to 40, that's still a low number considering there are over 50 million German-Americans. :p
Yeah, comparing it like that sure but the U.S. was primarly a country for European immigration and merely some African slavery immigration. Being 10% of the population is not that little for a minority group that is widely separated from the others in many terms.
In another country, maybe. Not here. They've been here from the start and in the beginning they made up around 20% of the population. It's actually gone down since the 1700s.
Try the Philippines.
They worship anybody foreign over here.
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 15:14
So much that they kick out their spanish heritage and acepted the american one and now they are regreting it by posting hispanic praising videos.
EiCibaeño
2010-09-11, 15:19
So much that they kick out their spanish heritage and acepted the american one and now they are regreting it by posting hispanic praising videos.
American's seemed cooler.:lol:
So much that they kick out their spanish heritage and acepted the american one and now they are regreting it by posting hispanic praising videos.
America was a nicer overlord than Mexico was.
Meh.
We figured it'd be more advantageous to be Americanized. ;)
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 15:24
American's seemed cooler.:lol:we also accepted them here. but we didn't sell our culture to them, rather mixed it with ours.
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Meh.
We figured it'd be more advantageous to be Americanized. ;)Then why the Hispanic pride videos of your fellows?
El Andullero
2010-09-11, 15:36
we also accepted them here. but we didn't sell our culture to them, rather mixed it with ours.[COLOR="Silver"]
Your case is quite remarkable, considering that you ricans are so few in number and are closer in distance to the US mainland than the Phillipinos will ever be.
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 15:38
Your case is quite remarkable, considering that you ricans are so few in number and are closer in distance to the US mainland than the Phillipinos will ever be.Is that we are very close to our culture, we don't sell it to the first foreign who enters, imagine, there are more than 1,000 of your fellows here and we didn't turn into a province of the DR, and neither we will ever be, we don't have the fears and insecurities Euros have with their inmigrants extinguishing their culture, we kow that no foreigner will extinguish our culture no matter what influence or number of people comes. ;)
And yet virtually none of the Nuyoricans actually speak Spanish.
Apparently your culture is exclusive to your island.
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 15:42
And yet virtually none of the Nuyoricans actually speak Spanish.
Apparently your culture is exclusive to your island.Some do, my cousis do, and they were born there and many more(like mark anthony and jennifer), also you said it, they are in the US, we are here on the island.
Puerto Rico is part of the US. You're a citizen and you could move here just as easily as I could.
Someone from the USVI or Guam is not entitled to the same rights we are.
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 15:51
Puerto Rico is part of the US. You're a citizen and you could move here just as easily as I could.
Someone from the USVI or Guam is not entitled to the same rights we are.And, what does have it to do with our culture, our culture has american influence, but it has hispanoafrotaino roots.
Si.
But a Puerto Rican born in the Bronx is no different from a Puerto Rican born in San Juan.
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 16:00
Si.
But a Puerto Rican born in the Bronx is no different from a Puerto Rican born in San Juan.False, I am different form a Nuyorican, far different, don't compare me and my fellow island ricans to those whose ancestors didn't bother to teach our culture.
That's a bit of an overgeneralization.
So if someone's from a barrio in the South Bronx they're automatically less Puerto Rican than someone who was born in PR? What if the one from NY grew up in a Spanish-speaking household and the one from the PR was of Dominican heritage?
jibarodepr
2010-09-11, 16:06
That's a bit of an overgeneralization.
So if someone's from a barrio in the South Bronx they're automatically less Puerto Rican than someone who was born in PR? What if the one from NY grew up in a Spanish-speaking household and the one from the PR was of Dominican heritage?If he grew up in an spanish speaking houselhold and lived the culture then yes, he can be considerd more puertorican than one with dominican heritage because of the latter's heritage.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-11, 17:44
Isn't that a Russian stereotype? I thought she was from Azerbaijan.
She said Eastern Europe, not Central Asia...oh so she is some off white Turk and lives in Eastern Europe talking shit about blacks?????:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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I'm glad that there is no niggers in Eastern Europe
Why don't Eastern Europeans try staying in Eastern Europe???? If it is so great instead of whoring, pimping, drug dealing, and and washing dishes in everyone else's country? Can't you improve your own countries?
You are no better than Africans, in most cases I've seen you act worse than African immigrants.
Trust me, ask a Swiss person who they want 1,000 more of, Russians or a Nigerian, I bet at least half would say Nigerians over Russians. :lol: The jails in Switzerland are full of Slavs and Turks, rarely an African.
She said Eastern Europe, not Central Asia...oh so she is some off white Turk and lives in Eastern Europe talking shit about blacks?????:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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Why don't Eastern Europeans try staying in Eastern Europe???? If it is so great instead of whoring, pimping, drug dealing, and and washing dishes in everyone else's country? Can't you improve your own countries?
You are no better than Africans, in most cases I've seen you act worse than African immigrants.
Trust me, ask a Swiss person who they want 1,000 more of, Russians or a Nigerian, I bet at least half would say Nigerians over Russians. :lol: The jails in Switzerland are full of Slavs and Turks, rarely an African.
I don't know why Turks have become a part of this again. Just because an ambigious member with a potential of partial Turkish ancestry insulted you, you don't need to bring us into this dispute.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-11, 17:59
I think 40's a bit much. I think the Census said that they're 10%, which would be thirty million, but if he wants to round up to 40, that's still a low number considering there are over 50 million German-Americans. :p
Dude I don't need to exaggerate, don't you know me by now???
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tables/10s0010.pdf
Read for yourself...
39 million! I believe that would be a little over 11%.
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I don't know why Turks have become a part of this again. Just because an
Dude Swiss Neo Nazis? Have you ever been to Switzerland? I've seen NeoNazis every fucking time I've been there, they hang out at the Barnhoff (trains station) and beg for money and look mean, you can see them in St. Gallen, in Zurich...on the other side of the freaking train station are Nigerians selling marajuana....NeoNazis don't do a damn thing but sit and look at them.:lol: Not one of those MFers ever even so much as stared at me.
The amount of NeoNazi attacks on any minorities in Switzerland is EXTREMELY LOW, lover than France, UK, Germany, etc.
You might get one attack a year, usually in the German speaking area, usually in a suburb of Zurich...usually it is not a black, but some "off white" "Yugo" (Slav refugee from former Yugoslavia, often a Bosniak or some Greek, Portuguese, Turk) a few years ago some Portuguese women was stabbed or something, she was also pregnant I believe by some skinheads. Brave people they are.
I'm not saying that Swiss folks love blacks, they do not, but in the French speaking area (where the vast majority of blacks live) they are pretty well integrated as they already speak French. They have elected a black man to Parliament.
There is no one Slav in Parliament in Switzerland and there are more Slavs there than blacks!!! There is also no Muslim to my knowledge.
Swiss people voted for this black man as there are not enough blacks in any one area to send a black man to Parliament.:lol:
A 45-year-old lawyer, Mr. Ricardo Lumengo, of Angolan origin (Socialist Party), was elected to the National Council, becoming the first black person to enter the Swiss Parliament.
He is the "first black" but a half black/white Swiss woman was elected to Parliament in the 1970's!!!:lol:
Tilo Frey (born 1923 in Maroua, Cameroon; died 2008 in Neuchâtel[1][2]) was a Swiss politician. Frey was the daughter of a Swiss father, Paul Frey of Brugg, and a Fula mother, Fatimatou Bibabadama.[3] She was educated as a teacher and taught business classes at the Ecole de commerce of Neuchâtel in 1972-1976. From 1976 to 1984, she was director of the Ecole professionnelle de jeunes filles.
She was one of the first women elected to Parliament in SWITZERLAND!! As women could not even vote until the 1970's in most Cantons or hold public elected office.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2719688.ece
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilo_Frey
The group that is targeted and hated in Switzerland right now are Muslims, most blacks there are not Muslim, but a good percentage of Slavs are Bosniaks, so they are Muslim...then the Turks, Arabs, etc.
No what you are talking about or don't talk at all.
Thanks.
Get over it, black folks more respected than Turks and Slavs...sorry.:o
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I don't know why Turks have become a part of this again. Just because an ambigious member with a potential of partial Turkish ancestry insulted you, you don't need to bring us into this dispute.
Fair enough, she was not talking about Turks, she was trying to represent Eastern Europe (obviously she has no Turkish pride anyway, not like Eastern Europeans love her Muslim ass):lol:
I haven't seen the 2010 census. I was going on 2000. My bad.
Fair enough, she was not talking about Turks, she was trying to represent Eastern Europe (obviously she has no Turkish pride anyway, not like Eastern Europeans love her Muslim ass):lol:
I changed my post because I had no reason, previous to your bringing Turkish people into this dispute between you and Ukrainians, to direct a hostile post at you but you're still sending shit our way when, even if her claim is true, she is mostly of Ukrainian heritage.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-11, 18:38
I changed my post because I had no reason, previous to your bringing Turkish people into this dispute between you and Ukrainians, to direct a hostile post at you but you're still sending shit our way when, even if her claim is true, she is mostly of Ukrainian heritage.
I don't take issue with Turkic people.
I don't know her ethnic mix, I know she has a Turkic nation flag on under her avatar. As far as I'm concerned, Turks are not important enough to think about to be honest...I only knew two Turks in my life. Some arrogant ugly Neanderthal looking mother fucker when I was an undergrad at university who played soccer. Then I knew a very hot Slavic looking one when I was in graduate school named Burku...she was beautiful but for her hairy ass arms...other than that I've had no contact with Turks...in fact I know more Persians and Arabs than Turks...so not a concern. Oh yeah, I am friends with an Uzbek guy from Kygyzstan...and a Uyghur (Weiwer) from China...
I don't take issue with Turkic people.
I don't know her ethnic mix, I know she has a Turkic nation flag on under her avatar. As far as I'm concerned, Turks are not important enough to think about to be honest...I only knew two Turks in my life. Some arrogant ugly Neanderthal looking mother fucker when I was an undergrad at university who played soccer. Then I knew a very hot Slavic looking one when I was in graduate school named Burku...she was beautiful but for her hairy ass arms...other than that I've had no contact with Turks...in fact I know more Persians and Arabs than Turks...so not a concern. Oh yeah, I am friends with an Uzbek guy from Kygyzstan...and a Uyghur (Weiwer) from China...
Ok you're too superior for us, I apologise for my audacious attempt at questioning you. What an arrogant man.
JackKnightstick
2010-09-11, 18:46
Ok you're too superior for us, I apologise for my audacious attempt at questioning you. What an arrogant man.
I'm glad you understand the order of things. You seem like an intelligent man. Time to teach your Slav neighbors.:lol:
I'm glad you understand the order of things. You seem like an intelligent man. Time to teach your Slav neighbors.:lol:
:lol: Do you honestly believe in ethnic superiority?
JackKnightstick
2010-09-11, 18:48
:lol: Do you honestly believe in ethnic superiority?
What? No. I believe in my superiority, I can't speak for anyone else. Nor do I care. It is against evolution to believe any single "group" is superior. Everything falls on a Bell Curve.
However, I am superior.:)
What? No. I believe in my superiority, I can't speak for anyone else. Nor do I care. It is against evolution to believe any single "group" is superior. Everything falls on a Bell Curve.
However, I am superior.:)
Fair enough. I'll leave you to your thoughts of superiority then.:unsure:
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