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Austronesian
2012-05-27, 21:23
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-27, 21:28
Why preserve a race...why not unite and travel through the universe...find a nice planet and fuck all the native green bitches there and form a new hybrid race! Sounds good....Yup.....Sounds good.

anoniem
2012-05-27, 21:30
Why preserve a race...why not unite and travel through the universe...find a nice planet and fuck all the native green bitches there and form a new hybrid race! Sounds good....Yup.....Sounds good.

:lol::lol::lol::lol: thats going to be my sign for sure

Tsukonin
2012-05-27, 21:32
A few points:

- Humans ≠ Biodiversity (oxymorons actually)
- "races" don't exist indeed
- "blacks" aren't particularly different from others when it comes to discuss the scientific validity of race

anoniem
2012-05-27, 21:33
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

those are usually the AA not Africans

pakistani
2012-05-27, 21:34
True muslims dont really believe in races, of course these days you have nationalistic people among muslims and they are racists like other people

Austronesian
2012-05-27, 21:35
Why preserve a race...why not unite and travel through the universe...find a nice planet and fuck all the native green bitches there and form a new hybrid race! Sounds good....Yup.....Sounds good.

Why do we have state preservation parks and projects? Why to we help endangered species? Obviously we value biodiversity as world community.

I think this also should be applied to humans.

Look at the Native Americas or the Manchurians... Their original phenotypes have been bred almost out of existence. Even worse, I've never met a Native American in my entire life, which means their population numbers have shrunk considerably.

Would you like for your race to be Bred out of existence or go extinct? Would you like to see the death of your people? I don't understand how some can think that way.

Zero
2012-05-27, 21:41
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against keep preserving our races for the future.

My, question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

I don't recall any black poster here ever saying that they were against "race preservation". But, what I have a problem with and I'm sure most of the black posters will agree with me, is people of other races with clear inferiority complexes putting blacks down to make themselves fell better.

Austronesian
2012-05-27, 21:48
I don't recall any black poster here ever said that they were against "race preservation". But, what I have a problem with and I'm sure most of the black posters will agree with me. Is people of other races with clear inferiority complexes putting blacks to make themselves fell better.

If you're accusing me of being such a person, you are wrong.


I do have problem with Blacks and Whites interbreeding with Asians particularly those from my sub-continent of ancestry. I don't really like seeing it, and don't like seeing the destruction of my phenotype.

If the above qualifies me as someone with a inferiority complex, then so be it, you may label me as such.

Opie
2012-05-27, 21:49
I was along those lines. I was thinking marrying a Chicana or Mexican girl, you know, to thicken the bloodlines. Instead I married a girl for a very stupid reason . . . I love her.

Mike the Jedi
2012-05-27, 21:52
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

The idea that any of the things you mention stand in the way of human genetic diversity is ridiculous. Short of prohibiting reproduction in favor of cloning, you're not going to hamper diversity on a planet of seven billion people. So shut the fuck up.

Zero
2012-05-27, 21:53
If you're accusing me of being such a person, you are wrong.

I never accused you of anything.


I do have problem with Blacks and Whites interbreeding with Asians particularly those from my sub-continent of ancestry. I don't really like seeing it, and don't like seeing the destruction of my phenotype.

What are you talking about?:lol: Last time I checked there wasn't a mass population of blacks or whites for that matter in South East Asia to out breed them.


If the above qualifies me has someone with a inferiority complex, then so be it, you may label me as such.

Your free to believe whatever you want I never labeled you anything.

Alamchop
2012-05-27, 21:53
:confused: It's generally blacks in the west ( the Americas ) that believe the idiotic assumption that eliminating racism comes from race mixing. This belief is radical and foolish as the Nordic hierarchy is the reason why blacks are generally discriminated against these days. Race mixing to the point of the racial composition of latin American countries would not work as its impossible to breed out racial composition, hence why in places like Mexican "germanic-looking" people are the most envied while sub-saharran-looking people are the most looked down upon. If the 200 year concept of "whites are the most advanced, evolved, powerful, etc." and "blacks are the ugliest, most ape like, least advanced, etc." discontinues, then heirarchal racism will cease to exist (xenophobic racism is nearly impossible to eliminate though.). To eliminate the Nordic hierarchy, one must teach through history that the "intermediate complexed people dominated the world for the greater part of history while those too light or dark were backwards and un-contributing.". Or, if black countries become as successful as white countries, then that will work too.

Mike the Jedi
2012-05-27, 21:55
People should learn what terms like "biological diversity" mean before criticizing the opinions of others. Biodiversity doesn't have anything to do with racial preservation, race denialism, or anything of the sort.

Cygnus
2012-05-27, 21:55
- "races" don't exist indeedSure they do. All animals are classified into sub-species and breeds. Humans are no exception.

brainblaster456
2012-05-27, 21:55
True muslims dont really believe in races, of course these days you have nationalistic people among muslims and they are racists like other people

actually to be honest, true muslims do believe in ethnic and cultural diversity, the holy Quran has a whole verse to prove my point: ;)

chapter 49 Hujurat (the rooms)
Verse 13: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes and nations so that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted".

Unome
2012-05-27, 22:09
If a man has sex with two women, one of his race, one not of his race, then is he still responsible for race-preservation????

EclectYummination
2012-05-27, 23:30
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?


The idea that any of the things you mention stand in the way of human genetic diversity is ridiculous. [...] So shut the fuck up.

:lol:


People should learn what terms like "biological diversity" mean before criticizing the opinions of others. Biodiversity doesn't have anything to do with racial preservation, race denialism, or anything of the sort.

Exactly.

Anyway, to answer the question based on his obvservation, I guess it's because blacks who've learned a bit about this kinda stuff are less likely to be egotistical than others? As well as more on-point? (They're right sans semantics).


I don't recall any black poster here ever saying that they were against "race preservation".

Yeah, actually, there is a lot of sentiment among a number of them in real life that the black race needs to look out for themselves / that blacks need to look out for one another, ya know, with recent history and all, which paints a picture of how the race has been looked at by others and what the race has been put through.

You got some others, who, on the other hand are very adamant against such ideology for anybody as they see it as the source of all sorts of racial conflict to begin with.

As for me, I see where the former sides coming from without agreeing with them. By the time around right before I learned about all this biodiversity shit due to mingling my opinion was that anyone should be able to marry whomever they want / love, while not having a cow over peoples' decisions seeming more ethnically shy or conservative in that matter. It's like it quite didn't matter anymore.

Now after I'd learned all this bio-anthropology stuff and related biology stuff in general, [I mean, while greatly liking the black addition to the diversity (and many white and other non-black people do these days too) it's like it utterly didn't matter anymore.

I mean I still appreciate all the varieties existing (it's the spice of life), but yeah.

amenoameno
2012-05-27, 23:41
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

Its very simple. Humans are not dogs.

LuisaSkis
2012-05-27, 23:50
I don't. And I don't think the strong comments of a small minority means that's what all Afam/black people are thinking.

mac
2012-05-28, 00:00
Sure they do. All animals are classified into sub-species and breeds. Humans are no exception.

Sub-species and breeds are two very different terms. Dog breeds are all the same sub-species exhibiting different phenotypes. So, breeds are the closest example to modern humans. Anyways, humans are an exception in comparison to most animals but that debate is for another thread.

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 00:27
Sub-species and breeds are two very different terms. Dog breeds are all the same sub-species exhibiting different phenotypes. So, breeds are the closest example to modern humans. Anyways, humans are an exception in comparison to most animals but that debate is for another thread.

Dog breeds are intentionally created while human races are not. At this time anyhow.

I don't see why humans would be an exception but since this is not that thread I'll leave it alone.

Wickedgirl
2012-05-28, 00:30
I definitely get the desire of wanting to "preserve" your heritage, there's no problem with that at all and I actually think it's a good thing. That's a basic human right. But no one's forcing anyone to sleep with someone of a different race so why don't people stop worrying about who others are mixing with? If they don't care enough about their ethnic background to preserve it then they shouldn't have to.

Sakarisker
2012-05-28, 00:38
It is purely individual decision preserve or not the own race. No state should intervene in that, we are not animals.

jr1
2012-05-28, 00:40
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

If these people don't believe that race exists then they wouldn't seem themselves as Blacks but as dark-skinned humans, so it's not like they're thinking, "We have this wonderful racial diversity, let's destroy it".

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 00:42
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

Wickedgirl
2012-05-28, 00:45
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

That video is super gross.

Soul Unlimited
2012-05-28, 00:48
I will simply post what I have previously said about this topic. Since this thread is about Blacks and their stance on "Race preservation" I feel that it is relevant.

The concepts of "mis-genation" and "race loyalty" are merely systems in which Males of various groups guard against foreign men taking their women. It stacks the deck in their favor when dealing with women of their own race or ethnic group and limits the number of males they have to compete with. The concept only benefits the males of the particular group in question. Males do not and historically have not adhered to the concept.

Sakarisker
2012-05-28, 01:01
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

Thats a case of social engineering directed by the state, I am against this. Social engineering is a perverse and totalitarian cancer.

amerinese
2012-05-28, 01:08
That's really a Swedish state produced music video? WTF...

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 01:24
That's really a Swedish state produced music video? WTF...

Right. Am I the only one that thinks it is fucked up that they would use their own national anthem in that setting? Disgraceful.

Lyndall
2012-05-28, 01:32
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

This is very disgusting, had to stop it at the 20 second mark.

Sakarisker
2012-05-28, 01:35
Right. Am I the only one that thinks it is fucked up that they would use their own national anthem in that setting? Disgraceful.

I've seen worsts videos, in one of them (sponsored by governemment too) from a rap group of SSA immigrants where they use music of the national anthem to say "immigration brought new discipline and that even if it hurt they must assimilate.". Is crazy :sick:

juan1193
2012-05-28, 01:35
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

I will hold you personally accountable for the brain cells I lost while watching that. :p

ayigbe
2012-05-28, 02:40
I'm not

chuckynoris
2012-05-28, 03:33
I think most people are attracted to people of their own group/ethnicity/race without external factors influencing them. I don't know if this is natural or not, but all the girls that I've ever had a crush on were mostly from my own ethnicity or atleast resembled me.

I guess we are all hardwired to preserve our ethnicities.

(PS: dont take the biracial too seriously)

Monkey
2012-05-28, 04:42
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.
I'm not sure, but could it be that they don't have anything to lose? Mixing might only makes their lives easier. That and I remember this post of yours:
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showpost.php?p=862158&postcount=828


They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.
Those White men and White/Asian women speak out because they are, or they have been in an interracial relationship in the past. So their reactions are natural; they feel guilty and they are only defending their choices...

The American
2012-05-28, 05:23
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

That reminds me of a parody video from In Living Color but without being funny.

And I like white, i.e. European-derived, girls and would prefer one as a mate. I would also prefer to raise any children I have with knowledge of their particular (i.e. as an American with British/European ancestry). I think that any self-respecting person would do this for his or her children (i.e. Aframs raising their children with a knowledge of Africa and its history and cultures in addition to the contributions of blacks in the US) and not simply seeing them as future generic citizens of a sterile global monoculture.

Edit comment: No blacks online or in real life have yet to be offended by my racialist tendencies. Whites, typically leftists however, have however.

amerinese
2012-05-28, 05:28
That reminds me of a parody video from In Living Color but without being funny.

Yeah, I thought of that earlier, but I didn't think most people here would get the reference. It could also be the least funniest skit to ever appear on the Chappelle Show.

The American
2012-05-28, 05:31
Yeah, I thought of that earlier, but I didn't think most people here would get the reference. It could also be the least funniest skit to ever appear on the Chappelle Show.

In Living Color parodies were funny; that video from Sweden was just stupid and crass.

amerinese
2012-05-28, 05:33
I'd really like to hear opinions from some of our Swedish members on that video.

I went googling for a meme, "Your Tax Krona At Work", but didn't find a good one.

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 05:51
those are usually the AA not Africans

No its not AA's usually, I'm sick and damn tired of seeing threads that say "why blacks this or that", I'll just do my best to ignore them and even more the snide comments that some African even have about AAs generalizing about us, especially the ones who live miles away from us.

---------- Post added 2012-05-27 at 22:54 ----------


I don't. And I don't think the strong comments of a small minority means that's what all Afam/black people are thinking.

Thank you, excellent observation.

EclectYummination
2012-05-28, 14:14
I definitely get the desire of wanting to "preserve" your heritage, there's no problem with that at all and I actually think it's a good thing.

Ditto.


I will simply post what I have previously said about this topic. Since this thread is about Blacks and their stance on "Race preservation" I feel that it is relevant.

The concepts of "mis-genation" and "race loyalty" are merely systems in which Males of various groups guard against foreign men taking their women. It stacks the deck in their favor when dealing with women of their own race or ethnic group and limits the number of males they have to compete with. The concept only benefits the males of the particular group in question. Males do not and historically have not adhered to the concept.

True dat. Good point out.

Põhjamaalane
2012-05-28, 14:21
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?

Africans are the "least successful" race, thus they deny the existence of differences between different human groups.

When Europeans reached Africa, some Africans hadn't even invented/discovered the wheel yet. You don't see many black scientists/nobel prize winners either.

What happened when the Europeans left Africa? Chaos, wars, genocides etc.

Lyndall
2012-05-28, 14:41
Africans are the "least successful" race, thus they deny the existence of differences between different human groups.

When Europeans reached Africa, some Africans hadn't even invented/discovered the wheel yet. You don't see many black scientists/nobel prize winners either.

What happened when the Europeans left Africa? Chaos, wars, genocides etc.

Makes sense.

2kayglobal
2012-05-28, 15:30
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

Let's be a bit fair though. It was part of a comedy series called "Grotesco" on national swedish television in which they intentionally push a lot of boundaries (hence the name).

To call it "propaganda" is a bit exaggerated. :lol: But yeah, the production was probalby financed using public funds, as are all productions on national television. Judging by the number of dislikes in the youtube clip, people seem to have really hated this sketch, but other things they do are quite well liked. I guess it's not fun to watch if you don't understand the language, but here are some other songs they've made anyway:

Masturbating with Jesus Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05loouqsAY

The faggots are to blame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lvMJ-l0_A

I cut myself (the emo thing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrfkdmZrR8

I really don't care about the stuff in this thread at all. But I responded since people here seemed to get the impression that the prime minister and the swedish government was behind it, lol. Here's that comedy group:

http://s14.postimage.org/xgm7kcw7l/Grotesco_g_nget.jpg

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 16:02
Africans are the "least successful" race, thus they deny the existence of differences between different human groups.

When Europeans reached Africa, some Africans hadn't even invented/discovered the wheel yet. You don't see many black scientists/nobel prize winners either.

What happened when the Europeans left Africa? Chaos, wars, genocides etc.

This use of the wheel nonsense is just some BS chatter used by racists to try to decide who is civilized, no scientist has ever said the lack of the use of wheel makes a group of people uncivilized. Some Africans used wheels and some didn't, obviously you have no proof that when Europe and reached Africa Africans didn't use nor the discover the wheel. Post facts or shut up, how many mini-Elias Alucard type racists do we have repeating the same lies? What do you know about Africans?

cadwallon
2012-05-28, 16:12
....Interracial marriages and cohabitations in the United States still account for a minority of unions.

Only referencing wikipedia here because it is early still but it is said that only 7% of African Americans are married to White wives, while 12.5% cohabit. The numbers are small, greater than in Antebellum times but in those days the population of the U.S. as a whole was much smaller, an increase in all aspects of various unions I'd think would correlate with a general increase in population (more people to try more things). Hardly seems that there's a conscious nefarious plot among the Afram population as a whole.

It still seems that the old rule of "people are more likely to flock to those most similar to them, whether religious, economic, or racial (these often intertwined)" is coming into play.

As Wickedgirl already stated, preservation enacted out of individual choice is all good and something I would be keen to doing within the context of my personal life but when the state gets involved to sway the hand of the individual regardless of the individual's preference in this matter we get into touchy territory.

If anything I'd be more worried about negative cultural effects growing from an increase in the gangsta rapper ideal and IRA sympathizers more than who is marrying who. This effecting all peoples regardless of ethnic background (the idealization of this behavior negatively impacts Afram peoples in that it overshadows their traditional folk cultures along with perpetuating stereotypes and negatively impacts European descending groups as it is substituting respective traditional folk based cultures).

Again this is ultimately up to personal choice but with this instance there is a greater number of people affected and a greater number of people to be affected when "Bobby McDoogle sneaks into his father's bedroom to snag a glock to cap a mofo" as to emulate such and such a gangsta-rapper or "snag the Irish warpipes afore building a backyard fire bomb to go Wolfe Tone on WASP man". :p

Bibles and chastity belts to go around? :D:D:D

Dario
2012-05-28, 16:14
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.


The video is a joke, but somehow reminded me of this one. Look how the Swedes just happily applaud at Jackson´s (lol need I say more) wish for Sweden´s demise. What a crowd of brainless sheeple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jg-Es2PNUg&feature=related

I see Jesse Jackson can´t resist meddling in even other countries´ businesses and spreading lies and propaganda. What a despicable person. :sick:

Sureño
2012-05-28, 16:39
It is a personal decision but when propaganda like this exist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZecUt7MFQ

..mixing is being pushed as the cool thing to do.

The jewish control the media..

Still they don't mix with other races

cafman21
2012-05-28, 16:43
I´ve seen this before and didn´t take it too seriously. However I didn´t know it was sponsored by the state back then. Unfortunately nothing surprising about it though. Sweden is in a bad state and it´s getting worse and worse. The same crap is rapidly spreading and washing up on Finland´s shores.

The video somehow reminded me of this one. Look how the Swedes just happily applaud at Jackson´s (lol need I say more) wish for Sweden´s demise. What a crowd of brainless sheeple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jg-Es2PNUg&feature=related

I see Jesse Jackson can´t resist meddling in even other countries´ businesses and spreading lies and propaganda. What a despicable person. :sick:

That title is very misleading, I didn't see him asking specifically for the genocide of Swedes.

Arch Hades
2012-05-28, 16:44
Cause when they get around, the whole world turns brown. - NAS

Reality Check
2012-05-28, 16:47
Let's be a bit fair though. It was part of a comedy series called "Grotesco" on national swedish television in which they intentionally push a lot of boundaries (hence the name).

To call it "propaganda" is a bit exaggerated. :lol:

So its more of a joke song rather than propaganda.

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-28, 16:50
Would you like for your race to be Bred out of existence or go extinct? Would you like to see the death of your people? I don't understand how some can think that way.



Well I can preserve my race by inbreeding like the Europeans did or I can hybridified (not a word) them.
Which sounds better? Anyway you should blame the Americans for all this BS!! They started it.

cafman21
2012-05-28, 16:53
Why do we have state preservation parks and projects? Why to we help endangered species? Obviously we value biodiversity as world community.

I think this also should be applied to humans.

Look at the Native Americas or the Manchurians... Their original phenotypes have been bred almost out of existence. Even worse, I've never met a Native American in my entire life, which means their population numbers have shrunk considerably.

Would you like for your race to be Bred out of existence or go extinct? Would you like to see the death of your people? I don't understand how some can think that way.

If you're talking about the US Native then they were killed mostly. Not bred out or some shit like that.

Dario
2012-05-28, 16:54
That title is very misleading, I didn't see him asking specifically for the genocide of Swedes.

I never said that. It´s just some provocative title given by the video´s uploader. Of course nobody´s gonna seriously something along those lines (not even a race baiter and rabble-rouser like Jackson), but you understand what he´s getting at.

Reality Check
2012-05-28, 16:55
The jewish control the media..

Still they don't mix with other races

the song/video is from sweden, so why blame the other people. All multicultural problems & even good results created and found in sweden is the responsibility of Swedish people themselves and not someone else like americans or the jews.

Dario
2012-05-28, 16:55
edit.....

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-28, 17:05
If you're accusing me of being such a person, you are wrong.


I do have problem with Blacks and Whites interbreeding with Asians particularly those from my sub-continent of ancestry. I don't really like seeing it, and don't like seeing the destruction of my phenotype.

If the above qualifies me as someone with a inferiority complex, then so be it, you may label me as such.

So is everyone else around the world.:whoco: They think the exact same.
preserving one's culture is more important than anything else since that's mainly your identity for the most part not so much your phenotype.
By the way you're being too sensitive about the subject...mixing isn't as vast as people say it is, but I've noticed it is growing rapidly due to these stupid commercials and adverts.... probably because the goverment/company brands want young confused uncultured mixed-race people to buy/download stupid mainstream music like Lady Gaga and basically to be brainwashed since they're going to want to fit in society some way or another.
A Maasai man back in Kenya was telling me how ashamed he was when more and more Maasai youths were marrying non-Maasai/Nilotes and adopting a Western culture (baggy jeans, rap music, Western clothing, clubbing.etc)...but other ethnic groups in Kenya are far worse and because of this many are losing their identity and connection with their people.

Soul Unlimited
2012-05-28, 17:15
I find it hard to believe that when someone watches a commercial, advert, or music video showcasing a interracial coupling, that all of the sudden they birth this desire for women or men of other races within themselves. The attraction is already there from the start (basic biology here folks). All that is done by these types of media is the bolstering of the social acceptability of having an interracial relationship, and the tearing down of the barriers towards such couplings.

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 17:19
OP is a racialist troll in the same vein as white eugenicists racists.

cafman21
2012-05-28, 17:20
I find it hard to believe that when someone watches a commercial, advert, or music video showcasing a interracial coupling, that all of the sudden they birth this desire for women or men of other races within themselves. The attraction is already there from the start (basic biology here folks). All that is done by these types of media is the bolstering of the social acceptability of having an interracial relationship, and the tearing down of the barriers towards such couplings.

True! If that was the case then America would be mostly mixed race. I think most people here exagerate, even that youtube link that was an obvious joke people here were already posting that was promoting race mixing,etc...

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-28, 17:24
I find it hard to believe that when someone watches a commercial, advert, or music video showcasing a interracial coupling, that all of the sudden they birth this desire for women or men of other races within themselves. The attraction is already there from the start (basic biology here folks). All that is done by these types of media is the bolstering of the social acceptability of having an interracial relationship, and the tearing down of the barriers towards such couplings.

And then these children lose their identity as well as their culture...it's happening... look at America full of mixed-race people with no culture...nothing to be proud of...nothing to show the world... :lol:

Soul Unlimited
2012-05-28, 17:29
And then these children lose their identity as well as their culture...it's happening... look at America full of mixed-race people with no culture...nothing to be proud of...nothing to show the world... :lol:

America isn't a society based on "blood", America is not an Old World society. Culture and identity do not have to be tied to ancestry in the New World. I have many relatives of varying ancestries within my family, and they do not have trouble with their identity.

cafman21
2012-05-28, 17:34
And then these children lose their identity as well as their culture...it's happening... look at America full of mixed-race people with no culture...nothing to be proud of...nothing to show the world... :lol:

A lot of people say Americans don't have a culture.

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 17:38
A lot of people say Americans don't have a culture.

In a sense they may be right. I do not think there is a unified nation-wide American culture but there are smaller regional cultures. America is a big place.

Soul Unlimited
2012-05-28, 17:42
In a sense they may be right. I do not think there is a unified nation-wide American culture but there are smaller regional cultures. America is a big place.

I would say that there is an overarching National culture. Just for an example, all Americans adhere to the same basic political structure, and hold a basic set of values and beliefs that are similar throughout the Country.

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 17:44
I would say that there is an overarching National culture. Just for an example, all Americans adhere to the same basic political structure, and hold a basic set of values and beliefs that are similar throughout the Country.

That is true. I suppose I was thinking more of local customs.

cadwallon
2012-05-28, 18:15
I would say that there is an overarching National culture. Just for an example, all Americans adhere to the same basic political structure, and hold a basic set of values and beliefs that are similar throughout the Country.

I've heard reference to basic sets of values and beliefs for Americans but lecturers never specify what those are. I'm inclined to think that they mean constitutional ideals but those are not always universally accepted either so I'm still drawing a blank as to what the American essence is. :p Perhaps dissent is the American essence?

amerinese
2012-05-28, 18:20
I don't think any society ever had a Borg-like set of national ideals that were universally held.

Probably the most common ideals that unify Americans are concepts like "Freedom" of speech, religion, association, self-defense, etc. and some economic concept of "meritocracy" or success through education, hard work, innovation, entrepreneurial risk taking, etc.

These concepts are clearly not universally held among all Americans, but they probably are by a fair majority of them.

Soul Unlimited
2012-05-28, 18:30
I don't think any society ever had a Borg-like set of national ideals that were universally held.

Probably the most common ideals that unify Americans are concepts like "Freedom" of speech, religion, association, self-defense, etc. and some economic concept of "meritocracy" or success through education, hard work, innovation, entrepreneurial risk taking, etc.

These concepts are clearly not universally held among all Americans, but they probably are by a fair majority of them.

They are held by a big enough segment of the population to keep our country cohesive to a degree. But you are right, there are pockets of people who are fairly opposed to "Americaness". Like those people who drive around with those Texas flag bumper stickers that have the words "Secede" on them in bold print.

amerinese
2012-05-28, 18:34
I haven't seen those, LOL. I'm not surprised though. Texas is probably the most seccesionist modern state in the continental 48.

El Andullero
2012-05-28, 18:37
I haven't seen those, LOL. I'm not surprised though. Texas is probably the most seccesionist modern state in the continental 48.

Aren't Alaskans as similarly seppie minded these days?

cadwallon
2012-05-28, 18:43
Aren't Alaskans as similarly seppie minded these days?

If both Texas and Alaska secede would be interesting to see if another Confederacy forms and in what incarnation (what states?). I could see Upper Southern States seceding not because they have stakes in oil as Texas and Alaska (just as they had little stake in cotton during the prior war, felt it necessary to stress little as a preemptive measure, these States distinct from the Deep Southern States) but because of an axe to grind for the carnage wrought during the last war, this would give an opportunity for revenge and would potentially restore old lands to families as my own whose land were seized for the formation of State Parks (federally funded and manned projects).

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 18:45
I haven't seen those, LOL. I'm not surprised though. Texas is probably the most seccesionist modern state in the continental 48.

Actually I think Vermont has the most serious secessionist movement.

El Andullero
2012-05-28, 18:46
If both Texas and Alaska secede would be interesting to see if another Confederacy forms and in what incarnation (what states?). I could see Upper Southern States seceding not because they have stakes in oil as Texas and Alaska (just as they had little stake in cotton during the prior war, felt it necessary to stress little as a preemptive measure, these States distinct from the Deep Southern States) but because of an axe to grind for the carnage wrought during the last war, this would give an opportunity for revenge and would potentially restore old lands to families as my own whose land were seized for the formation of State Parks (federally funded and manned projects).

Yeah, it would be interesting to see if those two would ally with them or simply choose to follow their separate ways.

cadwallon
2012-05-28, 18:46
Actually I think Vermont has the most serious secessionist movement.

Now I like the sound of that, get the New England and the Upper Southern States who've retained most of their folk population (of British Islander stock) to secede and make a new Anglo Confederation. :D

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 18:50
Now I like the sound of that, get the New England and the Upper Southern States who've retained most of their folk population (of British Islander stock) to secede and make a new Anglo Confederation. :D

I think Vermont's platform is based on Left-Libertarianism.


A Time magazine article about the campaigns quoted Naylor as describing the Second Vermont Republic as "left-libertarian, anti-big government, anti-empire, antiwar, with small is beautiful as our guiding philosophy."

+>=
2012-05-28, 19:06
Many AA's are brainwashed by the concepts of western culture, due to most spending their entire lives submerged in it. The thought of what are "good" and "bad" characteristics are often than of European basis. for them, this is just a scientific way of meaning deemed "inferior by birth", as it did in the past.

amerinese
2012-05-28, 19:09
Aren't Alaskans as similarly seppie minded these days?

Yes, and Hawaiians have an independence movement as well, but from the contiguousl 48 states, Texas is the state which makes the most noise about independence.

I haven't heard anything about Vermont independence... are they independent groups or government figures?

El Andullero
2012-05-28, 19:13
Yes, and Hawaiians have an independence movement as well, but from the contiguousl 48 states, Texas is the state which makes the most noise about independence.

I haven't heard anything about Vermont independence... are they independent groups or government figures?

I see then that the Feds will have their hands full trying to quell all those brushfires, specially if things keep deteriorating on the economic front. Will this be enough for them to forget any future foreign adventures?

amerinese
2012-05-28, 19:15
I doubt it. The independence movements look like fringe groups and some populist sabre rattling by mainstream state politicians to me.

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 19:15
Yes, and Hawaiians have an independence movement as well, but from the contiguousl 48 states, Texas is the state which makes the most noise about independence.

I haven't heard anything about Vermont independence... are they independent groups or government figures?

Well looking at the Wiki page it seems to be a citizens group and I guess it can't be that serious actually considering...


In January 2005 the Second Vermont Republic claimed it had 125 card-carrying members

I always hear about it up here though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vermont_Republic

Maybe there are other groups besides that one. Dunno. :lol:



No matter the level of popularity I do not think any US state is going to secede any time soon. Maybe if America has a total crash of some sort.

El Andullero
2012-05-28, 19:19
I doubt it. The independence movements look like fringe groups and some populist sabre rattling by mainstream state politicians to me.

They certainly seem to be more popular than the American commie party ever was, so I wouldn't be quick in discarding them. Granted, they are nothing to be paranoid about (yet), but insurgencies can always come up from the most trifling of motives.

amerinese
2012-05-28, 19:23
I would say the more likely future domestic scenario for our military is deployment along the southern border, as part of some enhanced border control and "war on drugs".

El Andullero
2012-05-28, 19:24
I would say the more likely future domestic scenario for our military is deployment along the southern border, as part of some enhanced border control and "war on drugs".

There has been some reports about the flow of illegal inmigrants reducing its pace over there on recent years, but I don't know how much credence to put into them.

Gungnir
2012-05-28, 19:25
I would say the more likely future domestic scenario for our military is deployment along the southern border, as part of some enhanced border control and "war on drugs".

That should have been done a long time ago. I don't care about the war on drugs but if it make a good pretext...

amerinese
2012-05-28, 19:28
There has been some reports about the flow of illegal inmigrants reducing its pace over there on recent years, but I don't know how much credence to put into them.

Yes, I have seen those too, and believe them, as they tend to trend with construction stats like new housing starts. I mean to say that if drug cartel violence spills across the border in any meaningful or publicized way, there will be pressure (or an excuse) to send those desert combat experienced guys from Iraq and Afghanistan to "solve the problem", which might actually be part of some other agenda.

jonboyclem
2012-05-28, 19:30
America isn't a society based on "blood", America is not an Old World society. Culture and identity do not have to be tied to ancestry in the New World. I have many relatives of varying ancestries within my family, and they do not have trouble with their identity.

The US is called the melting pot for a reason;) Most Bi Racials I know don't have identity crisis, because there are so many recently mixed people here to identitify with them. There would be a bigger identity crisis if the biracial comes from a more Black/White town.

Wickedgirl
2012-05-28, 19:53
OP is a racialist troll in the same vein as white eugenicists racists.

And you're not a racialist? You once said that you were only interested in black women. So why (according to you) aren't people of other races be allowed to state their preference of dating within their own race (if they have that preference) without being called "racialists" or "eugenicists"? Why is it okay for you but not okay for others?

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 20:10
And you're not a racialist? You once said that you were only interested in black women. So why (according to you) aren't people of other races be allowed to state their preference of dating within their own race (if they have that preference) without being called "racialists" or "eugenicists"? Why is it okay for you but not okay for others?

My preference for black women isn't based on some silly quest to "preserve" African American biodiversity, I prefer women who I relate to and can understand me. Racialists are the ones who are obsessed with preserving physical traits and genetic purity, your white ancestors created the "one drop rule" just for that purpose.

Wickedgirl
2012-05-28, 20:19
My preference for black women isn't based on some silly quest to "preserve" African American biodiversity, I prefer women who I relate to and can understand me.

So maybe most of these people also prefer people who can understand them and they can relate to more. I mean, if people want to "mix" then there's nothing wrong with that and if people want to "preserve" there shouldn't be anything wrong with that either. I don't think their reasons should even matter. I think that's irrelevant.


Racialists are the ones who are obsessed with preserving physical traits and genetic purity, your white ancestors created the "one drop rule" just for that purpose.

nope... WASPs created the one drop rule, my ancestors had nothing to do with it.

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 20:20
So maybe most of these people also prefer people who can understand them and they can relate to more. I mean, if people want to "mix" then there's nothing wrong with that and if people want to "preserve" there shouldn't be anything wrong with that either. I don't think their reasons should even matter.



nope... WASPs created the one drop rule, my ancestors had nothing to do with it.

Go back and read the OP before you make another response to me.

Wickedgirl
2012-05-28, 20:28
I already read it, it's about racial preservation. I definitely wasn't defending him, just noting your hypocrisy for calling someone else a racialist when you have racialist views whether you want to admit it or not.

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 20:33
I already read it, it's about racial preservation. I definitely wasn't defending him, just noting your hypocrisy for calling someone else a racialist when you have racialist views whether you want to admit it or not.

There was no hypocrisy, my preference for Black women, more specifically Afram women has nothing to do with "race preservation" and the OP does speak the same babble as white racialists. I have no racialist views, I don't believe anyone is superior to anyone, I don't seek "race preservation," none of my views overlap with that of racialists. I don't waste my time worrying about why people from "Race A" and marry people from "Race B and C" and how it annoys me because I can less about who marries who.

Wickedgirl
2012-05-28, 20:35
There was no hypocrisy, my preference for Black women, more specifically Afram women has nothing to do with "race preservation" and the OP does speak the same babble as white racialists. I have no racialist views, I don't believe anyone is superior to anyone, I don't seek "race preservation," none of my views overlap with that of racialists. I don't waste my time worrying about why people from "Race A" and marry people from "Race B and C" and how it annoys me because I can less about who marries who.

Okay. Fair enough then.

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-28, 20:48
There was no hypocrisy, my preference for Black women, more specifically Afram women has nothing to do with "race preservation" and the OP does speak the same babble as white racialists. I have no racialist views, I don't believe anyone is superior to anyone, I don't seek "race preservation," none of my views overlap with that of racialists. I don't waste my time worrying about why people from "Race A" and marry people from "Race B and C" and how it annoys me because I can less about who marries who.

Exactly, same here. I like darker women especially Indians, Southeast Asians and SSA (both Eastern and Western Africans), but I'm just not diggin New Worlders...
I get this vibe they have a chip on their shoulders...well this is from my experience cause I'm not saying they're all like that...it's just they like mentioning "we Blacks like this" and "we Black people do this.", but I don't see the world that way and I'm colourblinded, although I'm not ethnic blind ;)

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Racialists are the ones who are obsessed with preserving physical traits and genetic purity, your white ancestors created the "one drop rule" just for that purpose.

They don't like mix-racing, but they love fucking their sisters, brothers and cousins :lol: :whoco:

http://www.quirkins.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/redneck-randall.png

Game Theory
2012-05-28, 21:05
Exactly, same here. I like darker women especially Indians, Southeast Asians and SSA (both Eastern and Western Africans), but I'm just not diggin New Worlders...
I get this vibe they have a chip on their shoulders...well this is from my experience cause I'm not saying they're all like that...it's just they like mentioning "we Blacks like this" and "we Black people do this.", but I don't see the world that way and I'm colourblinded, although I'm not ethnic blind ;)


How many New Worlders do you know? Unless you're here to see what we face every day how would you know about chips being on our shoulders? We live in a society where 40-43 million people are judged daily by the negative actions of a comparative handful of that amount, this is not a society that judges us as individual people or by the actions of the majority.



They don't like mix-racing, but they love fucking their sisters, brothers and cousins :lol: :whoco:



I can't speak for them, you'd have to ask them.

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-28, 21:31
I know a few Jamaicans and other light skinned carribeans ...not quite sure where there from but I'm guessing. I understand the racism and yeah even here I get ignorant shits telling me who my people are when they no absolutely nothing about my people. America has spread that racist infestation worldwide thanks to TV and Hollywood films.

Cygnus
2012-05-28, 21:34
Masturbating with Jesus Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05loouqsAY

The faggots are to blame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lvMJ-l0_A

I cut myself (the emo thing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrfkdmZrR8

I really don't care about the stuff in this thread at all. But I responded since people here seemed to get the impression that the prime minister and the swedish government was behind it, lol. Here's that comedy group:

http://s14.postimage.org/xgm7kcw7l/Grotesco_g_nget.jpgIs the guy in the middle an ethnic Swede?

A title like "Masturbating with Jesus Christ" already sounds very Jewish.

mr simon
2012-05-28, 21:36
I know a few Jamaicans and other light skinned carribeans ...not quite sure where there from but I'm guessing. I understand the racism and yeah even here I get ignorant shits telling me who my people are when they no absolutely nothing about my people. America has spread that racist infestation worldwide thanks to TV and Hollywood films.

You have the same issues as OP, his are just more serious. The world was racist long before TV a lot of it coached in the Euros.

BootyMan
2012-05-29, 12:44
So maybe most of these people also prefer people who can understand them and they can relate to more. I mean, if people want to "mix" then there's nothing wrong with that and if people want to "preserve" there shouldn't be anything wrong with that either. I don't think their reasons should even matter. I think that's irrelevant.



nope... WASPs created the one drop rule, my ancestors had nothing to do with it.

You just gave yourself away, you know that now?

Pulaar
2012-05-29, 13:27
"race doesnt exist"...Blacks cannot afford to believe that and 99.9% dont.

End

Reality Check
2012-05-29, 17:10
Blacks cannot afford to believe that and 99.9% dont.

Why cannot they afford to believe in race? Just by using terms like Black, White, Asian means the person understands that there is race difference. Oringinally I thought OP was talking bullshiting and trolling, but you just restated as a black person that 99.9% blacks don't believe in Race

Anyways people have 100% choice in perserving or mixing their race. But in my opinion most indian people who really want to mix with whites are people who hate their culture or have self-esteem/self hate issues. Race mixing for dumb meaningless reasons will always bring bad results in the end

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-29, 17:21
Why cannot they afford to believe in race? Just by using terms like Black, White, Asian means the person understands that there is race difference. Oringinally I thought OP was talking bullshiting and trolling, but you just restated as a black person that 99.9% blacks don't believe in Race

He doesn't represent the global black population....I think he's talkin about New World blacks and others, but generally I know there are differences...However, why emphasis on their differences! I don't care if you're Arab, Jewish, White or Black.... That's just not how I see things...when you become colourblind then you'll understand how beautiful and unique this world is instead being intolerant and racist. Do you what everyone to be the same? Or do you want individuals
I want individuals...:evilgrin:
Do I believe in a race/races...Yes and no.
Yes, because I believe we're all different from one another, but still I can see a relation.
No, because when you strip off the flesh from the body you'll see the exact same skeletal structure. Deep down, we're all still primitive.

Zero
2012-05-29, 17:29
He doesn't represent the global black population....I think he's talkin about New World blacks and others, but generally I know there are differences...However, why emphasis on their differences! I don't care if you're Arab, Jewish, White or Black.... That's just not how I see things...when you become colourblind then you'll understand how beautiful and unique this world is instead being intolerant and racist. Do you what everyone to be the same? Or do you want individuals
I want individuals...:evilgrin:
Do I believe in a race/races...Yes and no.
Yes, because I believe we're all different from one another, but still I can see a relation.
No, because when you strip off the flesh from the body you'll see the exact same skeletal structure. Deep down, we're all still primitive.

You have a bad habit of bring up New World Blacks, even he doesn't represent all of us. He just edited his post it makes sense now.

Reality Check
2012-05-29, 17:32
He doesn't represent the global black population....I think he's talkin about New World blacks and others, but generally I know there are differences...However, why emphasis on their differences! I don't care if you're Arab, Jewish, White or Black.... That's just not how I see things...when you become colourblind then you'll understand how beautiful and unique this world is instead being intolerant and racist. Do you what everyone to be the same? Or do you want individuals
I want individuals...:evilgrin:
Do I believe in a race/races...Yes and no.
Yes, because I believe we're all different from one another, but still I can see a relation.
No, because when you strip off the flesh from the body you'll see the exact same skeletal structure. Deep down, we're all still primitive.

me I put more of a deal on culture rather than race. I known some pure indians who hated everything about indian-culture and indian people and tried the level best to be white-washed. I could not stand those kind of people. But I also knew half black and half indian guyanese girl who loved her indian culture/hertiage, and I would rather be with people like her even if her ansestry isn't completely from india

beyoku
2012-05-29, 17:37
I always do a "sigh-facepalm" when people start comparing humans to dogs.

sigh-facepalm :whoco:

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-29, 17:45
You have a bad habit of bring up New World Blacks, even he doesn't represent all of us. He just edited his post it makes sense now.

Why do you want to think I dislike the New Worlders? I don't hate them!
Where are you getting this idea.

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I always do a "sigh-facepalm" when people start comparing humans to dogs.

sigh-facepalm :whoco:

Maybe if certain people stopped acting like bloody dogs then we wouldn't have this problem

Zero
2012-05-29, 17:57
Why do you want to think I dislike the New Worlders? I don't hate them!
Where are you getting this idea.

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Maybe if certain people stopped acting like bloody dogs then we wouldn't have this problem

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/ethiopia/TQGEC6MDV4H62HSEL/p20


you disrespectful arrogant afram bastard, at least i address my enemies by there real name and show some respect to them unlike you ungrateful bastards with no dads. most of afram dads are eithier drug dealers or addicts, you refuse to address me by my full name and am judging you for that. typical afram, no respect, manners, or intelligence. if East Africa rises, the 1st people on our list is you Aframs and bantus, afram because they throw their worthless meaningless culture into our beloved nations and Bantus because there animals from the jungles.
hey professor didn't notice you.

Obama is half kenya(Nilotic) half Anglo-Irish(celtic-Nordic

You have a history of trolling New worlders especially Aframs for some reason.

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-29, 18:02
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/ethiopia/TQGEC6MDV4H62HSEL/p20



You have a history of trolling New worlders especially Aframs for some reason.

Why do you keep bringing that shit up...It's a whole lot of bollox anyway and besides I don't even believe half of that shit I posted a year ago. I don't hate Bantus or New World blacks...I'm saying there are certain individuals who have issues...is that so bad? Do you really believe I meant any of that shit I posted not to mention I was younger and more ignorant back then :whoco: Forgive and forget.

Pulaar
2012-05-29, 18:04
Why cannot they afford to believe in race? Just by using terms like Black, White, Asian means the person understands that there is race difference. Oringinally I thought OP was talking bullshiting and trolling, but you just restated as a black person that 99.9% blacks don't believe in Race

Anyways people have 100% choice in perserving or mixing their race. But in my opinion most indian people who really want to mix with whites are people who hate their culture or have self-esteem/self hate issues. Race mixing for dumb meaningless reasons will always bring bad results in the end

You misunderstood or miss read. Im saying that 99.9% of black people do believe in race. Race has largely defined their experience in the New World at least.

Zero
2012-05-29, 18:14
Why do you keep bringing that shit up...It's a whole lot of bollox anyway and besides I don't even believe half of that shit I posted a year ago. I don't hate Bantus or New World blacks...I'm saying there are certain individuals who have issues...is that so bad? Do you really believe I meant any of that shit I posted not to mention I was younger and more ignorant back then :whoco: Forgive and forget.

You haven't changed that much this past year. I mean you have toned down your trolling of Bantus and Aframs but, just because you have a problem with certain individuals doesn't give your the right to generalize whole groups. I don't even see why would you even have problems with these groups since your living in Ireland.

Esekon Kimatt
2012-05-29, 19:07
Trolling I wouldn't call it that. Anyway I dislike the Stereotype New World culture mainly because I hate being associated with them not to mention some do get on my nerve. Especially Those who brag about how many women ....etc

Game Theory
2012-05-29, 19:13
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/ethiopia/TQGEC6MDV4H62HSEL/p20



You have a history of trolling New worlders especially Aframs for some reason.

Did he insinuate that this wasn't trolling? :lol: :lol:

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Trolling I wouldn't call it that. Anyway I dislike the Stereotype New World culture mainly because I hate being associated with them not to mention some do get on my nerve. Especially Those who brag about how many women ....etc

You live in Dubai :lol:, how are you being associated with us? :lol:

jonboyclem
2012-05-29, 23:38
You misunderstood or miss read. Im saying that 99.9% of black people do believe in race. Race has largely defined their experience in the New World at least.

There isn't a day when I don't think about Race, in reality most Black Americans think about race more than White Americans do, because we are a tiny fish in a big pond.

Zero
2012-05-29, 23:45
Trolling I wouldn't call it that. Anyway I dislike the Stereotype New World culture mainly because I hate being associated with them not to mention some do get on my nerve. Especially Those who brag about how many women ....etc

lol then what is it?:whoco:


Did he insinuate that this wasn't trolling? :lol: :lol:

---------- Post added 2012-05-29 at 12:15 ----------



You live in Dubai :lol:, how are you being associated with us? :lol:

At least it's funny when he trolls more than I can say for other NWB haters.

No he's a Kenya mulatto living in Ireland apparently. So I don't know how he's being associated with us?


There isn't a day when I don't think about Race, in reality most Black Americans think about race more than White Americans do, because we are a tiny fish in a big pond.

Same.

EclectYummination
2012-06-05, 18:46
Let's be a bit fair though. It was part of a comedy series called "Grotesco" on national swedish television in which they intentionally push a lot of boundaries (hence the name).

To call it "propaganda" is a bit exaggerated. :lol: But yeah, the production was probalby financed using public funds, as are all productions on national television. Judging by the number of dislikes in the youtube clip, people seem to have really hated this sketch, but other things they do are quite well liked. I guess it's not fun to watch if you don't understand the language, but here are some other songs they've made anyway:

Masturbating with Jesus Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05loouqsAY

The faggots are to blame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lvMJ-l0_A

I cut myself (the emo thing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVrfkdmZrR8

I really don't care about the stuff in this thread at all. But I responded since people here seemed to get the impression that the prime minister and the swedish government was behind it, lol. Here's that comedy group:

http://s14.postimage.org/xgm7kcw7l/Grotesco_g_nget.jpg

Finally, someone with a friggin head on here.

People over-react to ish too much, a joke about whites in a whitest-of-nations nation mixing, oh lord. I guess in their minds the Swedish white race is so fragile and pathetic the situation is desperate. lol. Paathetic.

TheGuru
2012-06-05, 19:06
Black peopl need to stay within their own group and mind their own as it should be.

justme1828
2012-06-05, 21:37
actually my mom was always for racial preservation growing up but also she had no desire for white guys until she grew up. She always thought it was diluting the race it wasn't a good idea then she realized for black people even if we mix we'll still be black because we're such a strong rooted race mixed people who mix with black people are primarily black it easily be overrided by any mix. She still decided to have a child (me) with a black man though. I personally do know race exists it's the reason I'd never date guys of certain races while I'm crazy about other races. I know the east asian guy I'd never date simply because I can't appreciate their beauty. I know why I like east indians hispanic (mestizo) and middle eastern guys more than any other ethnicities. It's not like I'm against preservation. It's just what is my type of guy and race happens to be apart of that. I still can like some black or mix black guys it's just nowhere near as much that my type of guy I like is met with other guys of other races compared. Nothing to do with preservation at all...


Overall race really isn't a thing in my life but I like the subject a lot to discuss but it's not like well I don't feel in this day and age it is a thing that matters in my life that much everyday it's just like how I have large eyes. It's there with me everyday but I don't think of it everyday unless I'm getting ready and like doing make up I guess you could say I think of my race (skin color) every time I put on foundation but not deeply... It's just a thing I was born like so much else about my appearance...

sgh
2012-06-05, 22:25
A few points:

- Humans ≠ Biodiversity (oxymorons actually)
- "races" don't exist indeed
- "blacks" aren't particularly different from others when it comes to discuss the scientific validity of race

Good point...this observation even goes beyond human beings. Humans tend to homogenize any environment they settle. When they show up many animal species end up extinct and the native flora is displaced by invasive species...the end result after several generations is a reduction in biodiversity.

miaozu
2012-06-13, 06:17
lol I wonder what or who I'm going to breed with?

amerinese
2012-06-13, 06:20
lol I wonder what or who I'm going to breed with?

Just try to make sure they're human. :lol:

miaozu
2012-06-13, 06:21
Just try to make sure they're human. :lol:

:evilgrin:

Maroon King
2012-06-13, 17:14
They are held by a big enough segment of the population to keep our country cohesive to a degree. But you are right, there are pockets of people who are fairly opposed to "Americaness". Like those people who drive around with those Texas flag bumper stickers that have the words "Secede" on them in bold print.
:lol::lol:

pgbk87
2012-06-13, 18:31
The people in my family tree who were "against preservation of Human-biodiversity" were mostly some white guys :|

jonboyclem
2012-06-13, 18:40
The people in my family tree who were "against preservation of Human-biodiversity" were mostly some white guys :|

Same in my family tree. In the US, the Whites wanted to keep themselves "pure" and not the other way around.;)

jibarodepr
2012-06-13, 18:42
Same in my family tree. In the US, the Whites wanted to keep themselves "pure" and not the other way around.;)I think pgbk meant that his white ancestors didn't want to keep "pure"but that mixed a lot with his non-whites ones.

jonboyclem
2012-06-13, 18:54
I think pgbk meant that his white ancestors didn't want to keep "pure"but that mixed a lot with his non-whites ones.

But in the US standpoint, the main people who were against miscegination where doing the most race mixing ie segregationist Strom Thurmond who's daughter was half black.

pgbk87
2012-06-13, 18:56
I think pgbk meant that his white ancestors didn't want to keep "pure"but that mixed a lot with his non-whites ones.

This too. Also, I always wonder what the dynamic of the Arawak-Carib and West/Central Africans was in the ethnogenesis of Garifunas. Like if it was consentual or was it a hostile take over.

jibarodepr
2012-06-13, 18:58
This too. Also, I always wonder what the dynamic of the Arawak-Carib and West/Central Africans was in the ethnogenesis of Garifunas. Like if it was consentual or was it a hostile take overThey intermarried each other as a way of survival and to mix their cultures.

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But in the US standpoint, the main people who were against miscegination where doing the most race mixing ie segregationist Strom Thurmond who's daughter was half black.But that could be said about Belize settlers?

pgbk87
2012-06-13, 19:02
They intermarried each other as a way of survival and to mix their cultures

It seems like it was consentual because the Y-DNA is completely African and the native mtDNA seems almost as common as the African. The language is native, so it seem's like a complete language replacement out of necessity.


But that could be said about Belize settlers?

The Baymen (Pirates, colonizers, ex-cons, etc..) pretty much got dissolved in Kriols. I can almost guarantee that you won't find a European mtDNA among Belizeans (minus the Mennonites)

jibarodepr
2012-06-13, 19:06
It seems like it was consentual because the Y-DNA is completely African and the native mtDNA seems almost as common as the African. The language is native, so it seem's like a complete language replacement out of necessity.Native Kalinago men were killed by the Encomiendas, so women has to replace them with African men for the ethnicity's survival, the same thing happened here, but it was distributed between Euros and Afros, Africans contributed on the genetic material while the Natives contributed in the culture the most.[/QUOTE]

pgbk87
2012-06-13, 19:18
Native Kalinago men were killed by the Encomiendas, so women has to replace them with African men for the ethnicity's survival, the same thing happened here, but it was distributed between Euros and Afros, Africans contributed on the genetic material while the Natives contributed in the culture the most.

Would you say Native culture was more important in the creation of Puerto Ricans or African? I always thought African, because of music and food

jibarodepr
2012-06-13, 19:20
Would you say Native culture was mosre important in the creation of Puerto Ricans or African? I always thought African, because of music and foodNative, because it influenced in both Euro and Afro cultures.Jibaro origin is moslty Euro/Native, African culture developed on its own

Maroon King
2012-06-13, 23:42
This too. Also, I always wonder what the dynamic of the Arawak-Carib and West/Central Africans was in the ethnogenesis of Garifunas. Like if it was consentual or was it a hostile take over.

It's pretty simple man. Black men love cholitas.

Monkey
2012-06-15, 00:42
Black peopl need to stay within their own group and mind their own as it should be.

^
Why do you hate Black people so much?

Jason
2012-06-15, 01:05
Why people always include blacks in nearly half of all topics on here?!

Esekon Kimatt
2012-06-15, 18:37
Why people always include blacks in nearly half of all topics on here?!

Because we're interesting and peculiar ;)

Jason
2012-06-15, 19:07
Because we're interesting and peculiar ;)

Human still. I would not call the race as a group peculiar because that would mean weird. Weirdness, strangeness is found in a personality which differentiates people more than ethnicity.

Esekon Kimatt
2012-06-15, 21:59
Human still. I would not call the race as a group peculiar because that would mean weird. Weirdness, strangeness is found in a personality which differentiates people more than ethnicity.

But we are wierd, wait....everyboudy wierd like me;)

EliasAlucard
2012-06-28, 05:25
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?It's not that blacks are against biodiversity; they deny race for political reasons because it's in their genetic interest to do so, since they believe it will decrease racism by wishing away race and convincing people race isn't real.

pgbk87
2012-06-28, 12:48
It's not that blacks are against biodiversity; they deny race for political reasons because it's in their genetic interest to do so, since they believe it will decrease racism by wishing away race and convincing people race isn't real.

And this is the mind state of all "Blacks" all around the world, right? Because an Afram, Somali, Nigerian, South Sudanese, Jamaican, "Afro"-Belizean and Afro-Brazilian are, and think basically the same...:rolleyes:

Black-UK-Guy
2012-06-28, 12:50
I've been reading different forums here and there for a while, and I've noticed that loudest voices against Human Biodiversity are definitely the Blacks.

They are usually the ones who say "race doesn't exist" or "there only one race" or something along those lines. They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

My question is for all the above mention groups, but particularly for Blacks. Why don't you like Race? What is wrong with Race preservation?
HBD is pseudoscience.

When I read all I can about something in science or history or when I see a new city or country, I am always surprised because things are never quite as you expect. You learn new things, your understanding of the world becomes a bit truer and deeper.

HBD is not like that.

Everything is just as you expect: blacks turn out to be everything white people say we are :


More given to crime and sex
Less given to intelligence and learning

Instead of deepening our understanding of black people, they remain the same old cardboard cut-outs they ever were.

True science would find surprises, it would challenge old ideas, it would deepen our understanding. HBD does none of that – it merely puts a fresh coat of paint of long words on ideas that go back to the slave owners and slave traders of the 1700s.

Black people compared to white people according to:

Thomas Jefferson in 1787: less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, good self-control
J. Philippe Rushton in 1995 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control

The main difference is that Rushtonian blacks have less self-control and more “aggressiveness”. But even that was not some new discovery made by science: it goes back to the 1870s when White Americans began to fear the newly freed blacks, blacks who were no longer slaves, blacks who were no longer under white “control”. It became the excuse for Jim Crow laws and Klan terror. And, in Rushton’s 1990s, to build prisons like mad and lock up black men in record numbers.

The same goes for HBD findings that Asians have more intelligence. Again, it falls right in line with the current White racist stereotypes – which are themselves partly a side effect of immigration laws that favour Asian doctors, engineers and university students.

EclectYummination
2012-06-29, 23:43
Anyone who doesn't understand that belief in diversity isn't synonymous with belief in races (the existence of different races within this species) is a muthrfckin retard, case closed. Thread done.

A person can be different from they're brother or sister and both be pure Swedes. That's bio-diversity even without different races. They're different things.

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For instance, you could even seperate the issue into three:

1.) I could say I don't believe in races (but believe in one race).

2.) I could say there is obviously diversity.

3.) I could hypothetically say that "I do not believe in it" and want everyone to mix 'till kindgom come (I say 'hypothetically' because in reality I actually like all the vastly different types of people and variety of phenotypes -- though at the same time myscegenation is cool with me -- people can have kids with whoever they think best).



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It's not that blacks are against biodiversity; they deny race for political reasons because it's in their genetic interest to do so, since they believe it will decrease racism by wishing away race and convincing people race isn't real.

OMFG,

Do people realise how much more Politically Correct and progressive whites often are than blacks, in real life?

I mean the vast majority of blacks outside of Cyber-Space for people who've been living out from under a rock.

For the majority of blacks, blacks have no problem with its existence otherwise you're all bullshitting when you refer to ppl "pulling of the race-card" for those of you who say it.

In this thread it seems some can't help but confuse what Scientists / some Biology junkies say with the opinions of random lay-people who are black.

The majority of black people =/= random internet individual ones. Yeah, the opinion exists. In those that it does I think it's a good thing though, and a testament to that person's soul and lack of egotism. So if it does exist as a racial thing, I think it's a testament to the race's virtuous lack of egotism.

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They, along with yellow fever White males, White worshiping Asian Females, Black admiring White women, always want to fight against preserving our races for the future.

LOL, now that I think about it though, those are the main groups of people who could care less about the race concept(s), those who are wantin' to, lookin to or open to mixin with others.

Marllon
2012-06-30, 04:39
Not all blacks are against "racial" preservation. Stop generalizing. In Colombia, most blacks have children with blacks, and they're not even the majority in Colombia. The same goes for every country with a black majority. Also, mixed-race people are also fundamental to human biodiversity, so preventing interracialism is also limiting diversity. There are pletny of monoracial people in the world who will continue to have monoracial children. Monoracial diversity is not going anywhere anytime soon.

Rolando4
2012-06-30, 04:42
Besides it takes two people to race mix lmao, so non-blacks are just as guilty...