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Actually, I was thinking something like that as well, I think first and foremost he looks like Dutch or Scandinavian.
However, I think his looks are quite common among anglo-males all-over US & Canada, Vanilla Ice comes to my head immeadiately:D
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
PeterThaGreat
2010-05-17, 19:03
only in some areas of the US such as the midwest or parts with heavily scandinavian or northern continental euro influence, and those areas just make a small part of the whole US. Your average joe is more likely to look like robbie williams or some average dark haired atlantid than dolph lundgren or other northern fair types who the common sight in scandinavia, netherlands and northern germany. I compare white americans with most west brits and irish people who look more like dark haired atlantids and not with very tall people with mainly germanic features as other northern europeans usually are.
BS,
your above statement applies only Urban East coast with its heavy Italian/Sicilian, Jewish, Greek and other "white ethnic" communities. The basic fair anglo-german looks dominate not only in Mid-west but in Texas, California, Arizona, New England, Colorado, etc pretty throughout the US.
Rochefaton
2010-05-17, 19:16
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being tall and blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a tall blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
You are right for the most part.
There are a lot of nordic looking individuals around Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, the surrounding areas, and a few other places, but most White Americans look Atlantid as you stated. However, while blond hair is not that common, blue eyes is nothing out of the ordinary.
Tall women are not really in high demand here either. Stereotypical beauty in White America is for women to be blond haired and blue eyed, and for men to be tall, dark, and handsome.
BTW, who the hell is Maria Sharapova? :)
jonboyclem
2010-05-17, 19:18
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being tall and blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a tall blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
Peter the Great's lowkey right right. Germanic phenotypes predominate across the US with the exception of the Northeast with all the Italians/Jews/Greeks/Poles, and the Southeast which is mainly British Isles phenotypes.
You are right for the most part.
There are a lot of nordic looking individuals around Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, the surrounding areas, and a few other places, but most White Americans look Atlantid as you stated. However, while blond hair is not that common, blue eyes is nothing out of the ordinary.
Tall women are not really in high demand here either. Sterotypical beauty in White America is for women to be blond haired and blue eyed, and for men to be tall, dark, and handsome.
BTW, who the hell is Maria Sharapova? :)
well then i will correct the tall part.
just some random tennis player
:p
Audiophile
2010-05-17, 20:28
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
Mormons are not from midwest, they are from Utah nor do they have heavy scandinavian descent. They are mostly descended from the English. Scandinavian descent is common in North Dakota, Minnesota, and northern Wisconsin. I would say that blond hair and dolicocephaly is more common than Germany and Russia for sure though.
I think there may well have been some mass "social engineering" on the subconscious level, which has been a part of American society from the beginning. A kind that has favored blondism as something most preferrable on a scale of attractive value. More so than in England or in places where blonde hair is "native."
This may be a result of cultural anxiety, due to this trait being somewhat peculiar in a New World of African, Indian, Mexican, etc., -descended peoples. Call it bigoted, but I think this kind of "circlcling of the wagons" is just plain human. It becomes inhuman when it is overtly broadcast as a mark of human superiority, as seen displayed by WWII Germany.
Tropical
2010-05-17, 23:48
Brazilians are also obssessed with blond hair. If you are blond and have light eyes in Brazil, you are lucky. The Media has a lot to do with that, because Brazilian television actors are mostly of Italian and German descent, while the "med" Whites, mixed-race and Black people have a lower representation than they should have to represent real life.
It's not a surprise that only recently Brazil had a Black actress as a protagonist of a soap-opera, while the most famous Brazilian model, Gisele Bundchen (what a surprise) is blonde and of German descent.
Bundchen represents a tiny minority of Brazil. The model who gets closer of the average Brazilian beauty is Adriana Lima, but Lima is much less popular in Brazil than Bundchen. Another one who looks more Brazilian is Emanuele de Paula
This may be a result of cultural anxiety, due to this trait being somewhat peculiar in a New World of African, Indian, Mexican, etc., -descended peoples. Call it bigoted, but I think this kind of "circlcling of the wagons" is just plain human.
I've always felt this to be basically true; blondism as an indicator of racial background and European ethnic background. My father's family is from NE Ohio and it is interesting how vestiges of the old ethnic hierarchy amongst whites still persists up there. Tall, blond/light hair, blue eyes are seen as physical proof of being 'white-white', vs 'ethnic' white I suppose, or 'questionable' like those of southern Italian immigrant descent in a neighboring town who were basically thrown in with the Puerto Ricans and AAs socially (schools, neighborhoods - also Appalachians, lol) as they weren't considered white enough to blend in with the 'regular Americans' (Anglos of course), and immigrant families of German, Scandinavian, northern Italian origins who lived on 'The Hill' and made up the town's elite.
It has been such a cherished trait at times folks become irrational when a 'non-white' possesses it.
A great aunt of mine was always mistaken as 'white' as a child in Georgia. Even while out with her nearly as light-complected older sister and her blue-eyed, light-haired mother who were always identified as light AAs, but she had blond hair and people insisted she couldn't be AA because blacks, no matter how light/mixed, can't be blond.
I have a cousin that is two shades away from just looking like a West African albino. Features are clearly 'negroid', hair is kinky, looks just like his brothers and mother who are never, ever questioned. Yet, his blond hair is a sticking point for too many ninnies who ask if he is 'white or something' in spite of his clear, predominant SSA features.
It is still perceived by many as a trait that only 'whites' have naturally and is proof of pure European descent. Calling into question the 'purity' of darker 'whites' and floundering against the actual existence of blond 'non-whites'.
jonboyclem
2011-02-15, 03:41
bump
i dont meet very many true blonds in america.most are brunettes.
for the most part whites are typically chestnut brown and have an atlantid appearance on average.
i find it interesting though,when im in the airport or something,i can point out which ones are midwesterners,specifically kansans and missourians,just by their looks.the women in particular have this look about them.its probably indicative of the overall ancestry in this area.there are alot of dutch and swedish descended people here,as well as germans.idk.but some people just have that midwestern look about them,where you know their family has been in the area for quite some time.kinda plain looking really.
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
Yes, you are correct in many respects.....but not all. Dark hair Atlantids are quite common in the U.S. .....blond is desirable, but U.S. is so diverse , such a melting pot.
jonboyclem
2011-02-15, 04:10
i dont meet very many true blonds in america.most are brunettes.
for the most part whites are typically chestnut brown and have an atlantid appearance on average.
i find it interesting though,when im in the airport or something,i can point out which ones are midwesterners,specifically kansans and missourians,just by their looks.the women in particular have this look about them.its probably indicative of the overall ancestry in this area.there are alot of dutch and swedish descended people here,as well as germans.idk.but some people just have that midwestern look about them,where you know their family has been in the area for quite some time.kinda plain looking really.
True dat. I think Matt Hughes and Jennifer Morrison are typical of midwestern White Americans.
matt hughes would if he wasnt so huge.but i can see it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1221/646048742_ec47622d81.jpg
typical kansan look.girl on the right.probably closest to the look im talking about.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/660197599_39227814fc.jpg
http://www.spoweb.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kansas-women-fan-into-flame-2-580x.jpg
the 3rd girl from the left is pretty typical of the midwest,most of these girls are with an exception of one or two.
i wish i had pics of my cousins friends.if you saw them in real life they all have a very distinct look about them that is just unmistakably midwestern.i have no clue how to explain it.its just a very plain look,the kinda thing where its obvious when someone isnt from here.you know it without them every speaking a word.something i picked up while living in kansas for the past couple years.its sorta different in KC but topeka and witchita its much more noticable.
Geto-Thracian
2011-02-15, 04:29
what blondes lack is intellect and athletic ability--on par with darker whites. I wonder if there has ever been any studies to prove this age-old stereotype.
How many MMA blondes are there--hardly any. Look at how brock lesnar moves compared with other fighters--maybe it is that latent neandertal clumsiness, lol! Big, but rarely graceful.
jonboyclem
2011-02-15, 04:32
matt hughes would if he wasnt so huge.but i can see it.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1221/646048742_ec47622d81.jpg
typical kansan look.girl on the right.probably closest to the look im talking about.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/660197599_39227814fc.jpg
http://www.spoweb.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kansas-women-fan-into-flame-2-580x.jpg
the 3rd girl from the left is pretty typical of the midwest,most of these girls are with an exception of one or two.
i wish i had pics of my cousins friends.if you saw them in real life they all have a very distinct look about them that is just unmistakably midwestern.i have no clue how to explain it.its just a very plain look,the kinda thing where its obvious when someone isnt from here.you know it without them every speaking a word.something i picked up while living in kansas for the past couple years.its sorta different in KC but topeka and witchita its much more noticable.
Mainly Borreby types. Reminds me of alot of White Californians as most of them are from the midwest like Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa etc. Typical White Californians
except for the guy on the right.
http://www.lavistamchs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/redondo-nerd-day.jpg
http://img.poptower.com/pic-7379/big-john-mccarthy.jpg?d=1024
http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/files/2010/11/1102_henrikson.jpg
except for girl no 5
http://photos.mycapture.com/TRDB/1111944/32555467E.jpg
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what blondes lack is intellect and athletic ability--on par with darker whites. I wonder if there has ever been any studies to prove this age-old stereotype.
How many MMA blondes are there--hardly any. Look at how brock lesnar moves compared with other fighters--maybe it is that latent neandertal clumsiness, lol! Big, but rarely graceful.
Please:lol: You can't even name one domininant med fighter in MMA.:lol:
i think most mma fighters that ive seen are predominantly cromagnid or faelid in appearance.but its been a while since ive watched that kinda stuff.
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
I live in the Midwest myself, and I must say blondes are a dime dozen over here. In my area (bigger city) its pred. German, Anglo, and Scandinavian descent with some Poles and Italians here and there. Overall I'd say I don't fit the typical Midwestern White American.
Anyways, even though I'm a blond guy I get so sick and tired of the blondism here, it seems annoying and fake (mainly when girls dye their hair). Maybe this explains my natural exclusive attraction to dark haired girls.
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what blondes lack is intellect and athletic ability--on par with darker whites. I wonder if there has ever been any studies to prove this age-old stereotype.
How many MMA blondes are there--hardly any. Look at how brock lesnar moves compared with other fighters--maybe it is that latent neandertal clumsiness, lol! Big, but rarely graceful.
Not my case what so ever. They're stereotypes nothing more.
EDIT: I have a hunch this is going to turn into another anti-blonde thread.
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
You'll have to ask Hollywood.....their the ones that create these types of stereotypes.
Are people from utah , salt lake city to be specific not typically representative for your average white american in the US? There is also this new yorker looks which tends to be quite different, mainly irish/italian mixed up.
EDIT: I have a hunch this is going to turn into another anti-blonde thread.
What can you do? Haters gonna hate on us golden sons. ;)
What can you do? Haters gonna hate on us golden sons. ;)
where did hate ever start in this thread?
It's mainly analizing whites in the US, and that the all american girl is often portrayed as blonde, but often of the fake variety, atlantid or very mixed (euro-mutt)types are far more common in the US than anything else.
what blondes lack is intellect and athletic ability--on par with darker whites. I wonder if there has ever been any studies to prove this age-old stereotype.
How many MMA blondes are there--hardly any. Look at how brock lesnar moves compared with other fighters--maybe it is that latent neandertal clumsiness, lol! Big, but rarely graceful.
:D we the meddish excel on sports and sciences also arts but shhhhh.... let the blondes have their moment.
It is the middle not the extremes were perfection lays.
--Aristotle (a Mediterranean)
What can you do? Haters gonna hate on us golden sons. ;)
I guess you're right, but a lot of the hate on us is usually irrational and unfounded which annoys the hell out of me.
where did hate ever start in this thread?
It's mainly analizing whites in the US, and that the all american girl is often portrayed as blonde, but often of the fake variety, atlantid or very mixed (euro-mutt)types are far more common in the US than anything else.
I just that this could turn into a hate thread after I read Geto's post (not sure if he was joking though).
It almost always is fake (like 95 % of the time), or dirty blonde dyed lighter. Atlantid is common here, along with Alpinids and Borreby's.
:D we the meddish excel on sports and sciences also arts but shhhhh.... let the blondes have their moment.
It is the middle not the extremes were perfection lays.
--Aristotle (a Mediterranean)
What about blond Meddish people? (Yes it can happen if you're mixed like myself).
And, do you consider Romanians meddish to an extent?
I guess you're right, but a lot of the hate on us is usually irrational and unfounded which annoys the hell out of me.
I just that this could turn into a hate thread after I read Geto's post (not sure if he was joking though).
It almost always is fake (like 95 % of the time), or dirty blonde dyed lighter. Atlantid is common here, along with Alpinids and Borreby's.
Borreby's are very often blonde, at least those coming from north germany and denmark.
Borreby's are very often blonde, at least those coming from north germany and denmark. Maybe you have more often than not borreby/atlantids from the british isles than real borreby's.
Yeah, I think that is the case. Most people around here are usually of North Atlantid stock, but dye their hair blonde so we do have those more often real Borreby's, but Borreby's are still very common here because of the high Scandinavian ancestries here. And, we also have a high Alpinid population due to all the German and Czech heritage around here.
what blondes lack is intellect and athletic ability--on par with darker whites. I wonder if there has ever been any studies to prove this age-old stereotype.
Meh. The blonde hair must make their occipital lobe and extensor tendons drain away right? Are you trying to cement the myth that blondes are dumb? Most `dumb` blondes get it out of the bottle.
Meh. The blonde hair must make their occipital lobe and extensor tendons drain away right? Are you trying to cement the myth that blondes are dumb? Most `dumb` blondes get it out of the bottle.
So true. All the dumb blondes I know are the fake dyed ones.
Meh. The blonde hair must make their occipital lobe and extensor tendons drain away right? Are you trying to cement the myth that blondes are dumb? Most `dumb` blondes get it out of the bottle.
zvit what proportion of girls would you estimate as blonde in wales(18-25 yo) out of all women i have met from southern england, mostly corwnwall, devon and london area i hardly have seen any real blonde, most were dyed blondes or some mousy brown or even dark brown/black natural hair tone. Dont know much about the northern english as i have been there only very few times and mostly driving along.
Are people from utah , salt lake city to be specific not typically representative for your average white american in the US? There is also this new yorker looks which tends to be quite different, mainly irish/italian mixed up.
Yes I think so. Much of the Upper Midwestern U.S. has that "glorified" blond / blue demographic. I think more than Utah, but Utah is very "white" as well. East Coast U.S. is Atlantid, Mediterranean, Polish .......as well as German, but now German mixed, whereas Upper Midwest U.S. is much more homogeneous light Nordic. I live in the southern U.S., which tends to be Atlantid, a good bit of red hair as well.
zvit what proportion of girls would you estimate as blonde in wales(18-25 yo)
There are very few blondes in my part of the world and it would be difficult to quantify them in percentage terms. 10% perhaps?
There are very few blondes in my part of the world and it would be difficult to quantify them in percentage terms. 10% perhaps?
Same estimation i would do for southern england, makes sense.
It doesn't matter what social trend is dominant, Maria Sharapova is universally hot.
It doesn't matter what social trend is dominant, Maria Sharapova is universally hot.
Nahh ..she is quite overrated imo, elena dementieva and caroline wozniacki are much prettier than maria..
ghostface
2011-02-16, 01:28
if white americans are so white then why they white population is so obssessed with blondes? look the way media, specially american media portray maria sharapova as "sexy" only for being blond. She would be just a common sight in russia with no particular attention at all. Admit it Blond hair and blue eyes are much rarer in the US than in central or northern europe, specially if we talk about scandinavian countries, low countries, northern germany and baltic states.
For an average white americam its like a trophy to have a blonde wife, they are not that white at all, they are mostly dark haired atlantids like most of western brits or irish people. Your average joe dont look scandinavian, dutch or northern german at all, with the exception of some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
Your just making things up, how many Americans do you even know? And why are some Iberians around here so obsessed with labeling British Isles people with the term "Atlantids"? Seriously the trend is strong with you people
Your just making things up, how many Americans do you even know? And why are some Iberians around here so obsessed with labeling British Isles people with the term "Atlantids"? Seriously the trend is strong with you people
Atlantids are very common in the UK and Ireland. Being the most common phenotype in southern England and Wales, not even including all those atlanto/brunns. Even british posters would agree with me. I didnt make this thread alive again if that's your matters...
Wickedgirl
2011-02-16, 01:35
Not many people give a shit about Blondes in America. stop with the dumbass stereotypes. blond is just seen as "cute".
In the U.S. Brunettes>Blondes.
Not many people give a shit about Blondes in America. stop with the dumbass stereotypes. blond is just seen as "cute".
In the U.S. Brunettes>Blondes.
That's only applied to the females here...lol.
Wickedgirl
2011-02-16, 01:41
That's only applied to the females here...lol.
haha guys hair color doesnt really matter as much. thats why guys dont change their hair color every month like we do. And no, I have never dyed my hair blond, and I never will. :p
haha guys hair color doesnt really matter as much. thats why guys dont change their hair color every month like we do. And no, I have never dyed my hair blond, and I never will. :p
Interesting I thought it mattered...And, the only guys around here that dye their hair are the emo types that feel the need to have black hair.
Wickedgirl
2011-02-16, 02:23
Interesting I thought it mattered...And, the only guys around here that dye their hair are the emo types that feel the need to have black hair.
It matters for some people I guess. it's all subjective ;)
It matters for some people I guess. it's all subjective ;)
Ah ok, probably only the superficial ones. I'm just glad that most girls don't care for hair color that much.
Wickedgirl
2011-02-16, 02:41
Ah ok, probably only the superficial ones. I'm just glad that most girls don't care for hair color that much.
overall personality>body (not including hair color)>looks>age>misc talents>>>>hair color.
guys are the more superficial ones and this is how they look at it in general. upper body (including hair color)>lower body>face>misc talents>age>>>>>personality.
lol.
some midwest people with heavily scandinavian descent such as mormons.
I think you'll find Mormons are of English descent, not Scandanavian descent. Look at where the most English communities are in America, Utah.
overall personality>body (not including hair color)>looks>age>misc talents>>>>hair color.
guys are the more superficial ones and this is how they look at it in general. upper body (including hair color)>lower body>face>misc talents>age>>>>>personality.
lol.
they did a study not to long ago to see where guys focus their eyes when first viewing an attractive woman and where they spent the most time looking.and you know what,it was the face...just throwin that out there.
i personally wouldnt date a girl with a fucked up grill no matter how nice her body was.im not too keen on big girls either but id rather be with a chubby girl with a nice face than a ugly chick with a great body,or even worse,a completely georgeous woman with a shitty personality.bad personalities are the number one killer of your chances of getting a date,no one likes a douche haha.
overall personality>body (not including hair color)>looks>age>misc talents>>>>hair color.
guys are the more superficial ones and this is how they look at it in general. upper body (including hair color)>lower body>face>misc talents>age>>>>>personality.
lol.
Yeah we are known to be superficial. I used to be real bad about that when I was a freshman. lol. I look it at like:
personality>face (with hair color)>age>upper body>lower body> talents
ghostface
2011-02-16, 03:55
Atlantids are very common in the UK and Ireland. Being the most common phenotype in southern England and Wales, not even including all those atlanto/brunns. Even british posters would agree with me. I didnt make this thread alive again if that's your matters...
The term Atlantids doesn't even mean anything, Carleton Coon, the only typologist worth anything, never even used the term and the term itself can be used to describe any Caucasian with darker hair, untanned skin, long or longish Meso-Dolichocephalic skull and without a convex nose (hence Dinaromorphic traits)
Papa Anodyne
2011-02-16, 04:07
they did a study not to long ago to see where guys focus their eyes when first viewing an attractive woman and where they spent the most time looking.and you know what,it was the face...just throwin that out there.
i personally wouldnt date a girl with a fucked up grill no matter how nice her body was.im not too keen on big girls either but id rather be with a chubby girl with a nice face than a ugly chick with a great body,or even worse,a completely georgeous woman with a shitty personality.bad personalities are the number one killer of your chances of getting a date,no one likes a douche haha.
If we're talking about the same study, then a nice body but not so great face is for quick flings. Nice face but not so great body for long term. If the choice is between the two.
Day Tripper
2011-02-16, 05:01
I think you'll find Mormons are of English descent, not Scandanavian descent. Look at where the most English communities are in America, Utah.
I think most are Anglo, but there are some Scandis also. In fact, my great grandparents (one half Swedish/half Danish and one half Danish/half Swiss) were Mormons from Utah (before they came to Canada, that is).
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