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Wolverine
2010-05-18, 22:26
I recently watched a movie called "GATTACA" starring Ethan Hawke and Jude Law, that is about a (scarily near) future where most people no longer were left up to chance, their physical and mental attributes were determined through genetic engineering. This caused people who weren't genetically engineered to be "superior" to be given crappy jobs, not be considered for insurance or higher schooling or advancement in the workplace, etc.

The movie follows the life of Vincent, a "faith child" (a child born on faith and not science) who, because of his genetic makeup, is forced to live a lower class life. His younger brother, Anton, who was genetically engineered to be one of the "elite", is constantly surpassing him in every field imaginable, until one day, the unthinkable happens, Anton has a medical emergency because of a heart problem.

This causes Vincent to understand that just because he's not made like everybody else, he has a chance to be great, so, to enter the job he wants to get into(involving space travel to one of Saturn's moons) he needs to "borrow" someone else's, on of the elite's, genetic makeup. Enter Jerome(Jude Law) a swimmer who is paralyzed from the waist down. Brought together by a "gene seller" Jerome and Vincent live together in a symbiotic relaitonship, Vincent allows Jerome to live in his upperclass life style, and Jerome allows Vincent to use his DNA through urine, blood, and hair, to fulfill his dream of spacetravel.


It all pulls together in an exciting story with an unthinkable and dramatic end. But the point I'm interested in is this:

Should your genetic makeup be seen as a standard for who you are and what you can do in life? Should companies be allowed to use genetics as a statistic in whether or not you get a job?

Think about it this way, the world would be full of the best and working at its optimum. But, in exchange, there is a high chance for discrimination, not among race or religion, but among Genetic codes.

I'd just like to know your opinion, would you see a better, more efficient world? Or would you see a cold, more self-absorbed world?

Thanks! :)

Kyte
2010-05-18, 22:56
All I gotta say is fuckin' with mother nature always brings bad. Humans and the earth are so intricately designed that while genetic supremacy in one sense or another may create hard working, efficient, systematically working people I feel problems will arise from many of the potentially overlooked angles, as there will no doubt be, resulting overall in any form or possibility of genetic supremacy being completely lost. For example while a genetically 'engineered' person might work hard and be way more efficient than any person today, the tiniest genetic or chemical abnormality caused by fiddling with the genes may cause stuff like extreme inclination to depression or vulnerability to serious illnesses not known before or a greater possibility of disability (mental or physical) etc.

I think fiddling too much with the creations of mother nature is potentially catastrophic. To say the least, such extreme changes should not be applied to large scale targets. I can respect and cherish research but applying such a thing to humanity is taking it too far imo.

Zupan
2010-05-18, 22:58
Well it will surely result in that humans will become vulnerable to new diseases. Same genetics = same flaws. Now we have genetic diversity and that's what has kept us alive so far.

Unurautare
2010-05-18, 23:05
I saw that movie as a kid,great movie; genetic stuff shows predisposition,I don't think that if a guy is predisposed to be a "genetic genius" he will be a doctor or scientist,he can as well be a criminal mastermind :evilgrin: but who knows? maybe if they truly discover what and how makes us tick then they will be able to greatly predict our development and ,if given opportunity, companies will recruit people at an early age just like kids that play football are recruited(for example)

jibarodepr
2010-08-31, 18:04
"R1b1b pride, worldwide" ;)

Semitic Duwa
2010-08-31, 18:09
Just have a look at the "Genetic Atlas"... You already have an "avant-goût" of discrimination tbh.

Karl der Große
2010-08-31, 21:06
Eugenics would be good if an institution uses it to eliminate deadly genetic problems. Except humans aren't that good, so obviously the rich would abuse it and create "super" babies. I do not support eugenics for that single reason.

jibarodepr
2010-08-31, 21:09
Eugenics would be good if an institution uses it to eliminate deadly genetic problems. Except humans aren't that good, so obviously the rich would abuse it and create "super" babies. I do not support eugenics for that single reason.Like mixing certain Y-DNa and MTDNA would create "super babies", the people who believe that are out of their mind.

tomi4m10
2010-08-31, 22:20
All I gotta say is fuckin' with mother nature always brings bad. Humans and the earth are so intricately designed that while genetic supremacy in one sense or another may create hard working, efficient, systematically working people I feel problems will arise from many of the potentially overlooked angles, as there will no doubt be, resulting overall in any form or possibility of genetic supremacy being completely lost. For example while a genetically 'engineered' person might work hard and be way more efficient than any person today, the tiniest genetic or chemical abnormality caused by fiddling with the genes may cause stuff like extreme inclination to depression or vulnerability to serious illnesses not known before or a greater possibility of disability (mental or physical) etc.

I think fiddling too much with the creations of mother nature is potentially catastrophic. To say the least, such extreme changes should not be applied to large scale targets. I can respect and cherish research but applying such a thing to humanity is taking it too far imo.

I think german shepherds is pretty perfect dog race, why not create such humans ;)

jibarodepr
2010-08-31, 22:23
I think german shepherds is pretty perfect dog race, why not create such humans ;)I know dogs that are better than German Sheperds, like the Mastiff in my opinion, as they are more calm.

Unurautare
2010-08-31, 22:35
I know dogs that are better than German Sheperds, like the Mastiff in my opinion, as they are more calm.

I think that the romanian shepherd dog can pwn both(especially since it's "designed" to kill bears):

jibarodepr
2010-08-31, 22:38
I think that the romanian shepherd dog can pwn both(especially since it's "designed" to kill bears):But it is not match for the Irish WOlfhound(largest dog in the world)

Unurautare
2010-08-31, 22:41
But it is not match for the Irish WOlfhound(largest dog in the world)

That hunts wolves,romaniac one is for killing bears. :lol:

annihilus
2010-08-31, 22:44
There is no dog on the face of the planet that can kill a bear in a fair fight:whoco:

jibarodepr
2010-08-31, 22:44
That hunts wolves,romaniac one is for killing bears. :lol:I think the wolfhound could also kill bears as it is taller and bigger than the Romanian one, is just that they use them to kill wolves and not bears, but that doesn't mean he can't.also a pitbull can kill a wolf but is not a wolfhound.

Unurautare
2010-08-31, 22:50
There is no dog on the face of the planet that can kill a bear in a fair fight:whoco:

Maybe if it's a small bear. :lol:

annihilus
2010-08-31, 23:34
It is already possible to manufacture synthetic dna, replace it with the original dna of a cel and boot it up with the new code.

Genetic engineered people is only a matter of time and as a consequence the human species will divide in two. With devision comes discrimination. Wether they will be the masters or the slaves I don't know, could go both ways.

tomi4m10
2010-09-01, 06:57
There is no dog on the face of the planet that can kill a bear in a fair fight:whoco:

well obviously the trick is to catch his genitals...

Unome
2010-09-01, 16:40
Genetic "discrimination" already-exists today…