Who would you want to be ruled by if you could choose a culture that is not your own?

[evon]

Well i thought this would be interesting, if you say you had to be ruled by a outside culture, meaning not your own, who would you prefer?

i think it would have to be a culture that has a stroke of humanism, as i would hate to be labled as "sub" something...so that leaves out Japanese culture...Jewish culture is interesting there as if you follow the nohaide laws you are free to live your own life, but since they are also very paranoid and military aggressive i think this way of thinking would be overshadowed by their need for internal security...so they are also out.. hmm... any suggestions?

ah, also the ruling culture must be a present culture..so no romans etc....

[hero]

I'm already ruled by the 'white man' so what can I say.... (shrugs) :lol:

[Azvarohi]

I'm already ruled by the 'white man' so what can I say.... (shrugs) :lol:

You don't seem too sad about it.

[PolskiMoc]

I want to be ruled by Ashke NAZI Jews
Because I love their plans for a Jew World Order

[hero]

You don't seem too sad about it.

It's been going on for so long that I'm used to it. Been fightin 'the man' all my life. :lol:

[evon]

I'm already ruled by the 'white man' so what can I say.... (shrugs) :lol:

so your happy with that? i think maybe its the best culture (Western) to be ruled by because we are so liberal, but i am biased since i am western:confused:

[asdrubal cabrera]

Mexico seems pretty laissez-faire. I would pick Mexican, or Thai.

[Alto Impacto]

I would like to be ruled by blacks so I get to understand their victim trolling tactics and irrational power trips and fallacies and defense-state they constantly live in.

[PolskiMoc]

Mexico seems pretty laissez-faire. I would pick Mexican, or Thai.

If Mexicans ruled the world it would be great!

We would abandon our progression towards more technology.

Put that Energy towards making more Donkey shows, Cock fights & bull fights.

[Alto Impacto]

If Mexicans ruled the world it would be great!

We would abandon our progression towards more technology.

Put that ENErgy towards making more Donkey shows, Cock fights & bull fights.

:sick: Have you been in one of these?? Becuase I have never heard about a donkey or a cock fight before. Bull fights, well... I don't like that, that's a costume we got from Spain.

[asdrubal cabrera]

Hmm Costa Rican culture is another possibility. IIRC they abolished the military in their constitution.

[Alto Impacto]

Hmm Costa Rican culture is another possibility. IIRC they abolished the military in their constitution.

I've always found Costa Rica's case very interesting. I imagine if they had a "strong" military they would be like any other central american nation. Those military funds were instead put into more infrastructure and other farming projects.

[hero]

so your happy with that? i think maybe its the best culture (Western) to be ruled by because we are so liberal, but i am biased since i am western:confused:

My previous comments were jokes.... just in case anybody else didn't get em. That's why I made the laughin face ( :lol: ). I never said anything about me being happy that I'm being ruled by 'the man.'


But anyways there's some truth to my original comment as well. I live in the corporate-run America; I answer to 'the man' everyday and night. When I got to the movies, grocery store, gas station, or even sit in front of my TV... I'm being 'ruled' by 'the man.'

[JoshK]

I'm already ruled by the 'white man' so what can I say.... (shrugs) :lol:


You speak English
You use a computer, created by the White man.
Wait,all the inventions you take for granted were created by the white man
You listen to English music
You eat Western food.
and many more such aspects..


There, you guys are even.

[hero]

If Mexicans ruled the world it would be great!

We would abandon our progression towards more technology.

Put that Energy towards making more Donkey shows, Cock fights & bull fights.

Don't forget about the tequila!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

[PolskiMoc]

Hmm Costa Rican culture is another possibility. IIRC they abolished the military in their constitution.

Yes, From being Polish. I know how of little of importance miltary is.

It is not like if we had a Stronger miltary that Poland would be better off today or anything like that.



P.S
Miltary weapon manufacture in WW2 is what stimulated the U.S Economy & Even the World Economy
Which is what got us out of the Great Depression.

[hero]

You speak English
You use a computer, created by the White man.
Wait,all the inventions you take for granted were created by the white man
You listen to English music
You eat Western food.
and many more such aspects..


There, you guys are even.

Actually, my computer was created by the Japs.... so there.

And lol at you claiming everything I enjoy/live by is created by the 'white man.' How do you think 'western' food/music/culture/etc came about? Western = Globalist/Globalism to me.

[PolskiMoc]

Don't forget about the tequila!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Tequila is decent.
But, Vodka is the best quality alcohol.

[asdrubal cabrera]

Yes, From being Polish. I know how of little of importance miltary is.

It is not like if we had a Stronger miltary that Poland would be better off today or anything like that.



P.S
Miltary weapon manufacture in WW2 is what stimulated the U.S Economy & Even the World Economy
Which is what got us out of the Great Depression.

Polands situation is complicated. You have to remember Poland's strong military invaded Russia and captured Moscow in 1610. Not saying that Poland got it coming to them, but militarism in general leads to problems.

[JoshK]

Actually, my computer was created by the Japs.... so there.

And lol at you claiming everything I enjoy/live by is created by the 'white man.' How do you think 'western' food/music/culture/etc came about? Western = Globalist/Globalism to me.

You're right..you win.

[Pallantides]

Inuits

[PolskiMoc]

Polands situation is complicated. You have to remember Poland's strong military invaded Russia and captured Moscow in 1610. Not saying that Poland got it coming to them, but militarism in general leads to problems.

Yes 1610 the Battle of Klushino
When 4,000 Polish Winged Hussars beat 48,000 Russian + Swedish forces. Beautiful.


Poland has been fighting since the dawn of history. That is all we know.

The idea of Poland not having a Miltary or any country for that matter is insanity.


Alot of those roots go back to the Livonian wars.
then the Muscovite war came about.

Poland was at war with Kievan Rus too before. LOL

[sgh]

The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints...preferably the Prophet/Seer/Revelator of this group...I've heard that this position makes you popular with the ladies :lol:

[PolskiMoc]

The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints...preferably the Prophet/Seer/Revelator of this group...I've heard this position makes you popular with the ladies :lol:

How about Jim Jones?

We will find a way to bring him back to life. So Jim Jones can rule the world.

[sgh]

How about Jim Jones?

We will find a way to bring him back to life. So Jim Jones can rule the world.

Yeah but we would have to keep him away from the flavor aid...we wouldn't want another incident now would we.

[Zupan]

Poland was at war with Kievan Rus too before. LOL

Don't know if a pole union was something in the western slavs heads by then ;)

Even Kievan Rus wasn't unified totally.

[EiCibaeño]

Hmm Costa Rican culture is another possibility. IIRC they abolished the military in their constitution.


I've always found Costa Rica's case very interesting. I imagine if they had a "strong" military they would be like any other central american nation. Those military funds were instead put into more infrastructure and other farming projects.

Costa Rica's model is definitely something I would like the DR to follow.

[Philip Daniel]

I want to be ruled by Ashke NAZI Jews
Because I love their plans for a Jew World Order

NAZISM=Nationalsozialismus, i.e. National Socialism

ASHKENAZ=Biblical Name for Armenia, Medieval Name for Germany

"Jew World Order"? Lol :lol:. Yeah, Jews wanna take over the world, which is why they forged the following --

“It is narrated on the authority of Abu Malik: I heard the Messenger of Allah say: He who professed that there is no god but Allah and made a denial of everything which the people worship beside Allah, his property and blood became inviolable.”—Sahih Muslim Book 1 Number 34

“Narrated AbuAyyub al-Ansari: AbuAyyub heard the Apostle of Allah say: Capitals will be conquered at your hands, and you will have to raise companies in large armies.”–Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2519

“Narrated Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious.”–Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2527

“Thauban reported that Allah’s Messenger said: Allah drew the ends of the world near one another for my sake. And I have seen its eastern and western ends. And the dominion of my Unimah would reach those ends which have been drawn near me and I have been granted the red and the white treasure.”–Sahih Muslim Book 41 Number 6904

“51 – ‘Abdullah bin ‘Ubayd bin ‘Umayr narrated:
“It was asked: O Messenger of Allah, which Jihad is the best?” So, the Prophet said: “The one in which one’s horse becomes injured and his blood is spilt.”"–ibn al-Mubarak’s “Kitab al-Jihad”

-- to make Sunnis look bad, and deflect their own sinister plans onto poor "Honorary Brown People". Whatever :rolleyes:.

You fail. Don't forget who Jan Sobieski III fought against. If you do choose to forget, I hope you enjoy paying jizya, just to survive as a dhimmi under al-dawla al-islamiyyah. Because, you know, JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS are the real enemy. Kill the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS, and all that shit. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOS are a threat, but not all the violent offshoots of al-Ikhwan al-Muslimin which ultimately plan to conquer and Islamize the world.
(http://www.theirownwords.com/site/showvideo/54)
Hope all the antisemites contract polio somehow :).

Anyway, if I had to choose a "regime" other than American, I'd choose New Zealand :).

[CAONABO]

Costa Rica's model is definitely something I would like the DR to follow.

I've always held that opinion that they should try to see what they can apply to DR from Costa Rica. I'd add Panama too, but I think their geographical location was a big factor.

[tweet]

I would love to be ruled by the happiest nation in the world.

[Ozrage]

I think I would enjoy the Netherlands. Sweden is too muslim friendly. And if Mona Stalin get to be head of parliament in Sweden no one know where it might end.

[ghostface]

I'll take Islam, I would love to be an outlaw in a Totalitarian society, plus I love Middle Eastern food

[slick willy]

NAZISM=Nationalsozialismus, i.e. National Socialism

ASHKENAZ=Biblical Name for Armenia, Medieval Name for Germany

"Jew World Order"? Lol :lol:. Yeah, Jews wanna take over the world, which is why they forged the following --

“It is narrated on the authority of Abu Malik: I heard the Messenger of Allah say: He who professed that there is no god but Allah and made a denial of everything which the people worship beside Allah, his property and blood became inviolable.”—Sahih Muslim Book 1 Number 34

“Narrated AbuAyyub al-Ansari: AbuAyyub heard the Apostle of Allah say: Capitals will be conquered at your hands, and you will have to raise companies in large armies.”–Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2519

“Narrated Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious.”–Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2527

“Thauban reported that Allah’s Messenger said: Allah drew the ends of the world near one another for my sake. And I have seen its eastern and western ends. And the dominion of my Unimah would reach those ends which have been drawn near me and I have been granted the red and the white treasure.”–Sahih Muslim Book 41 Number 6904

“51 – ‘Abdullah bin ‘Ubayd bin ‘Umayr narrated:
“It was asked: O Messenger of Allah, which Jihad is the best?” So, the Prophet said: “The one in which one’s horse becomes injured and his blood is spilt.”"–ibn al-Mubarak’s “Kitab al-Jihad”

-- to make Sunnis look bad, and deflect their own sinister plans onto poor "Honorary Brown People". Whatever :rolleyes:.

You fail. Don't forget who Jan Sobieski III fought against. If you do choose to forget, I hope you enjoy paying jizya, just to survive as a dhimmi under al-dawla al-islamiyyah. Because, you know, JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS are the real enemy. Kill the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS, and all that shit. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOS are a threat, but not all the violent offshoots of al-Ikhwan al-Muslimin which ultimately plan to conquer and Islamize the world.
(http://www.theirownwords.com/site/showvideo/54)
Hope all the antisemites contract polio somehow :).

Anyway, if I had to choose a "regime" other than American, I'd choose New Zealand :).

That's the thing, Mslims do not deny that world conquest is their ultimate goal...otoh people have the suspicion that World Jewry says one thing bt means another, concealing their true intentions.

[Malcolm Z]

Yes, From being Polish. I know how of little of importance miltary is.

It is not like if we had a Stronger miltary that Poland would be better off today or anything like that.



P.S
Miltary weapon manufacture in WW2 is what stimulated the U.S Economy & Even the World Economy
Which is what got us out of the Great Depression.

As Keynes said: you could get out of that depression by paying people to bury money at some place. Or to build pyramids. Any kind of public work would do it, it didn't have to be weapons. Keynes himself preferred social works, like schools and hospitals.

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I would love to be ruled by the happiest nation in the world.

Bhutan? (http://www.developments.org.uk/articles/bhutan-where-happiness-outranks-wealth/)

[asdrubal cabrera]

Weapons manufacture did not solve the depression, nor would public social works solve a depression. WWII AKA the slaughter of millions of unemployed people worldwide, solved the great depression.

[Philip Daniel]

otoh people have the suspicion that World Jewry says one thing bt means another, concealing their true intentions.

Yes...my true intention is to encourage Southern Sudanese, Darfuri, Kurdish, Assyrian, Amazigh, Artsakh Armenian, and maybe even Coptic and Maronite separatism.

I'm such an evil Zionazi Imperialist :).

[PolskiMoc]

Weapons manufacture did not solve the depression, nor would public social works solve a depression. WWII AKA the slaughter of millions of unemployed people worldwide, solved the great depression.

Right before WW2 started. The U.S had over 17 percent Unemployment.

by 1945 the Unemployment rate was only 1.5 percent.

In fact it seems over the years we have purposefully kept the Miltary Industrial Complex going just to keep us from going under.

Reagan had Trickle down Economics & Increased Miltary Weapon Manufacture.
&
When Reagan entered Office Unemployment was 10.8 percent & by the time he left it was 5.2 percent.

It seems to me we have become actually dependent on the Miltary Industrial Complex to keep our country going.

Most Rural areas of the U.S would likely become Third World Countries without the Miltary Industrial Complex.

[Iranian]

Yes...my true intention is to encourage Southern Sudanese, Darfuri, Kurdish, Assyrian, Amazigh, Artsakh Armenian, and maybe even Coptic and Maronite separatism.

I'm such an evil Zionazi Imperialist :).

There are 15 million of you and 1 billion of us
I say "us" even though i dont practice Islam; i still identify with the intrests of muslim people

Count your blessings and keep a low profile if you want to get by

Meh, non-Ashkenazi jews dont impress me; they play the part but dont deliver the goods

[PolskiMoc]

That's the thing, Mslims do not deny that world conquest is their ultimate goal...otoh people have the suspicion that World Jewry says one thing bt means another, concealing their true intentions.


Really??????
I keep hearing that Islam is the Religion of Peace. ALL THE TIME I hear this.

Yet, the very Center of ISlam (Mecca) Which Msulims pray towards & make pilgrimages too.

Well this Center of Mecca in ISlam.

Is celebrated to celebrate when Muhammad attacked & Slaughtered the Meccan Pagan people & Converted them to islam. (Which was seen as an act of god)


The very center of Islam is based upon war.

[slick willy]

meh, non-ashkenazi jews dont impress me; they play the part but dont deliver the goods

lmao

[asdrubal cabrera]

Right before WW2 started. The U.S had over 17 percent Unemployment.

by 1945 the Unemployment rate was only 1.5 percent.

In fact it seems over the years we have purposefully kept the Miltary Industrial Complex going just to keep us from going under.

Reagan had Trickle down Economics & Increased Miltary Weapon Manufacture.
&
When Reagan entered Office Unemployment was 10.8 percent & by the time he left it was 5.2 percent.

It seems to me we have become actually dependent on the Miltary Industrial Complex to keep our country going.

Most Rural areas of the U.S would likely become Third World Countries without the Miltary Industrial Complex.
If WWII didnt happen, and we just built weapons, we'd just have ended up with a huge pile of bombs and battleships and a gigantic national debt. Only the destruction of other country's industries and the killing of unemployed people proved to be a permanent 'solution' to the depression.

USA needs to wean itself off government industrial complexes military or otherwise.

[birko19]

I've never been ruled by my own culture, so the answer is simple, I would like to be ruled by my own culture for once :D

[slick willy]

Really??????
I keep hearing that Islam is the Religion of Peace. ALL THE TIME I hear this.

Yet, the very Center of ISlam (Mecca) Which Msulims pray towards & make pilgrimages too.

Well this Center of Mecca in ISlam.

Is celebrated to celebrate when Muhammad attacked & Slaughtered the Meccan Pagan people & Converted them to islam. (Which was seen as an act of god)


The very center of Islam is based upon war.

First of all, people dont understand the concept behind "peace" in Islam.

Islam, first of all does not mean 'peace', rather it means submission to the will of Allah. The 'peace' comes subsequent to said submission, as in 'peace of mind and spirit'.

Second of all, get your history right...when Mohammed entered Mecca, the pagans surrendered and Mohammed offered amnesty to all when he could have wrought his final revenge on them for their assasination attempts, his exile from Mecca, the losses the early Muslims incurred in the battle of uhud, or the collabaration the pagan Meccans attempted with the Jews of Medina.

[asdrubal cabrera]

Islam is fake period. Get your history right, prophet did not ride up into the sky in a horse.

That said Islam has produced worthwhile cultural artefacts.

I've never been ruled by my own culture, so the answer is simple, I would like to be ruled by my own culture for once :D
You're a welfare state Canadian.

[Philip Daniel]

There are 15 million of you and 1 billion of us
I say "us" even though i dont practice Islam; i still identify with the intrests of muslim people

Count your blessings and keep a low profile if you want to get by

Yawn.

Sorry, I refuse the dhimma. I reject the notion of paying jizya.

Also, I take it that you don't associate yourself with the dissident-secularists in Iran...

You're technically a munafiq anyway, if not a full-fledged zindiq or murtadd, according to the Ja'fari madh'hab. You think the mujahedin would spare you?

I should add that I do support secular-leaning Muslim groups like Kurds and Amazigh. I'm sure you find the "Free Kurdistan" avatar irritating. They're Iranians after all--no self-determination for them (or for the horribly-persecuted Ahwazi Arabs of Khuzestan, but that's another story.)


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First of all, people dont understand the concept behind "peace" in Islam.

Islam, first of all does not mean 'peace', rather it means submission to the will of Allah. The 'peace' comes subsequent to said submission, as in 'peace of mind and spirit'.


You are correct.


"Fasad, literally 'corruption', in Qur'anic terminology, means creating disorder and corruption [on] earth by following a path other than God's. Islam maintains that true peace and happiness emanate only through the observance of God's commands and through making a conscious effort to see that His laws alone are implemented in every sphere of life. Fasad occurs when man violates God's laws and disobeys Him. Fasad may therefore be partial as well as total; partial when one disregards God's law in one aspect of life while acknowledging His sovereignty in other spheres. If a society is based on the denial of God, that society is bound to be a corrupt and exploitative society - hence full of fasad."--Glossary of Islamic Terms
(http://www.islam101.com/selections/glossaryEF.html)

"Shirk is worse than Killing

Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:

[وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ]

(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:

[وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ]

(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''"--Tafsir ibn Kathir "Surat al-Baqarah [Q 2]" (http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=5008)

"Types of Kufr (Disbelief)
Imaam ibn Katheer rahimahullaah
Adapted from ‘Tafseer ibn Katheer’

The following information was excerpted from the appendices to the English translation of TAFSEER IBN KATHEER.

The Qur’aan uses the word Kufr to denote people who cover up or hide realities. The Qur’aan uses this word to identify those who denied Allaah’s favors by not accepting His Dominion and Authority. Kufr thus is an antonym for Iman or disbelief in Allaah and a Kaafir is a non-believer. This type of Kufr is called AL-KUFR UL AKBAR or major kufr. There are many types of Al-Kufr ul Akbar:

1. Kufrul-’Inaad: Disbelief out of stubborness. This applies to someone who knows the truth and admits to knowing the truth and admits to knowing it with his tongue, but refuses to accept it and refrains from making a declaration. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Throw into Hell every stubborn disbeliever [Soorah Qaaf (50), Ayah 24]

2. Kufrul-Inkaar: Disbelief out of denial. This applies to someone who denies with both heart and tongue. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: They recognize the favors of Allaah, yet they deny them. Most of them are disbelievers. [Soorah Nahl (16), Ayah 83]

3. Kufrul-Kibr: Disbelief out of arrogance and pride. The disbelief by the devils (Iblees) is an example of this type of Kufr.

4. Kufrul-Juhood: Disbelief out of rejection.This applies to someone who aknowledges the truth in his heart, but rejects it with his tongue. This types of kufr is applicable to those who calls themselves Muslims but who reject any necessary and accepted norms of Islam such as Salaat and Zakat. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: They denied them (OUR SIGNS) even though their hearts believed in them , out of spite and arrogance. [Soorah Naml (27), Ayah 14]

5. Kufrul-Nifaaq: Disbelief out of hypocrisy.This applies to someone who pretends to be a believer but conceals his disbelief. Such a person is called a MUNAFIQ or hypocrite. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Verily the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of Hell. You will find no one to help them. [Soorah An Nisaa (4), Ayah 145]

6. Kufrul-Istihaal: Disbelief out of trying to make HARAM into HALAL. This applies to someone who accepts as lawful (Halal) that which Allaah has made unlawful (Haram) like alcohol or adultery.Only Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala has the prerogative to make things Halal and Haram and those who seek to interfere with His right are like rivals to Him and therefore fall outside the boundries of faith.

7. Kufrul-Kurh: Disbelief out of detesting any of Allaah’s subhanahu wa ta’ala commands. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Perdition (destruction) has been consigned to those who disbelieve and He will render their actions void. This is because they are averse to that which Allaah has revealed so He has made their actions fruitless. [Soorah Muhammed (47), Ayah 8-9]

8. Kufrul-Istihzaha: Disbelief due to mockery and derision. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Say: Was it at Allaah, His signs and His apostles that you were mocking? Make no excuses. You have disbelieved after you have believed. [Soorah Taubah (9), ayah 65-66]

9. Kufrul-I’raadh: Disbelief due to avoidance. This applies to those who turn away and avoid the truth. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: And who is more unjust than he who is reminded of his Lord’s signs but then turns away from them. Then he forgets what he has sent forward (for the Day of Judgement) [Soorah Kahf (18), Ayah 57]

10. Kufrul-Istibdaal: Disbelief because of trying to substitute Allaah’s Laws. This could take the form of:

(a) Rejection of Allaah’s law (Sharee’ah) without denying it

(b) Denial of Allaah’s law and therefore rejecting it, or

(c) Substituting Allaah’s laws with man-made laws. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Or have they partners with Allaah who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed. [Soorah Shuraa(42), Ayah 8] Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely (that) is lawful and this is forbidden so as to invent a lie against Allaah. Verily, those who invent a lie against Allaah will never prosper. [Soorah Nahl (16), Ayah 116]"--islaam.org.uk (http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=avideditor.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunnahonline.com%2Film%2Faqee dah%2F0038.htm&sref=http%3A%2F%2Favideditor.wordpress.com%2Fdirec tly-from-the-pens-of-mujahedin%2F)

“It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action…Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them…If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”–Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4294

“Narrated Anas ibn Malik: Jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.”–Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2526

[Iranian]

I've never been ruled by my own culture, so the answer is simple, I would like to be ruled by my own culture for once :D

I go to school in america but ive never felt that im ruled by a different culture

my apartment is my little piece of Iran that ive transplanted over to america and i dictate what happens in my immediate enviornment
when you come to my apartment you take off your shoes, you hear persian more often than english, you see persian carpets, persian paintings, persian furniture, persian hookahs etc. , you see a farvahar engraving on the wall, a painting of imam ali, and you eat lamb for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

i have friends who come over on the weekends and they respect my environment and adhere to its rules (not in a chauvinistic way ofcourse). I just go to lecture in the mornings but i otherwise live in my apartment (aka Fort Iran). i dont even go out for meals, i order virtually every meal from an iranian restaurant.

the second i feel as though im being "ruled" by another culture, i will pack my bags and go back to Iran

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Sorry, I refuse the dhimma. I reject the notion of paying jizya.


Then i suggest you avoid societies where muslims are the majority

if you ever find yourself in such a predicament and if you really do feel strongly about rejecting dhimmi status then im sure youll find the courage to fight and die for your convictions

Im not a muslim but i am a realist
Islam is inherently expansionist
You can see it in the Persian Jihads were waged against the christians of the caucasus and you can see it in the Somali Jihads which were waged against the christian ethiopians

You need to suck it up and come to terms with reality

[pinguin]

Very hard question. Very hard question. It is hard for me to accept living in a host foreign country instead of my own land. I guess I was going to say Japanese.

[asdrubal cabrera]

Then i suggest you avoid societies where muslims are the majority

if you ever find yourself in such a predicament and if you really do feel strongly about rejecting dhimmi status then im sure youll find the courage to fight and die for your convictions

Im not a muslim but i am a realist
Islam is inherently expansionist
You can see it in the Persian Jihads were waged against the christians of the caucasus and you can see it in the Somali Jihads which were waged against the christian ethiopians

You need to suck it up and come to terms with reality
Reality is Muslims are becoming more liberal, thank god. Eventually the pockets of Islamic barbarians will disappear too and no one has to be a dhimmi anymore, no more master-slave relationships.

[Angharad]

Mexico seems pretty laissez-faire. I would pick Mexican, or Thai.

Most individual Mexican people are nice, but the country is seriously out of control at the moment with all the kidnappings and the drug war. No thanks.

The problem with Mexico is that it is pretty laissez-faire. The government is so corrupt and useless that it might as well be ruled by the mafia. The last thing that I"d want is to be ruled by the Mexican mafia.


Thailand is a monarchy that intermittently deposes its government, so that would be interesting, but I'm not sure if it would be in a good way.

****

I am pretty sure that I would hate just about any government. I like the idea about the happiest country on earth, that is Denmark, so that might be okay. Probably not though. :(

[Iranian]

I'm sure you find the "Free Kurdistan" avatar irritating. [COLOR="Silver"]


No i dont find you avatar frustrating at all
A good part of my mom's family is Kurdish
Im "technically" not Persian; im half Lur and half Gilak but im very persianized and i strongly identify with Persians

Persian culture has sex appeal and people dont avoid it like the plague, as is often the case with jewish culture

There are 80 million persians and we are not surrounded on three side by people who are thirsty for our blood (the Mediterranean sea is your friendliest neighbor) . oh and we are not going to be bred into a minority in our country within the next 50 years

sucks to be you

[birko19]

I go to school in america but ive never felt that im ruled by a different culture

my apartment is my little piece of Iran that ive transplanted over to america and i dictate what happens in my immediate enviornment
when you come to my apartment you take off your shoes, you hear persian more often than english, you see persian carpets, persian paintings, persian furniture, persian hookahs etc. , you see a farvahar engraving on the wall, a painting of imam ali, and you eat lamb for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

i have friends who come over on the weekends and they respect my environment and adhere to its rules (not in a chauvinistic way ofcourse). I just go to lecture in the mornings but i otherwise live in my apartment (aka Fort Iran). i dont even go out for meals, i order virtually every meal from an iranian restaurant.

the second i feel as though im being "ruled" by another culture, i will pack my bags and go back to Iran

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I don't see it that way, yes I'm Assyrian and I practice some of my traditions and what not at home, but I try to adopt and mix as much Canadian culture as I can, by blood I am Assyrian, but as a Canadian citizen I feel that this is my country and therefore, I must accept most of its culture, if not, why live there?

This was the case in Iraq, a side from wars we also did not like the culture, which is why I only identify as Canadian Assyrian and not Iraqi Assyrian, although I'm Iraqi by birth.

[asdrubal cabrera]

I belong to God I don't care for culture. Do good, fight evil, etc etc.

[Iranian]

I don't see it that way, yes I'm Assyrian and I practice some of my traditions and what not at home, but I try to adopt and mix as much Canadian culture as I can, by blood I am Assyrian, but as a Canadian citizen I feel that this is my country and therefore, I must accept most of its culture, if not, why live there?

This was the case in Iraq, a side from wars we also did not like the culture, which is why I only identify as Canadian Assyrian and not Iraqi Assyrian, although I'm Iraqi by birth.

well, i suppose its because we are taking different paths
I plan to go back to Iran after i complete my studies while i suppose you plan on staying in canada

my father completed his studies in england before returning to Iran and my great-grandfather studied/worked in russia before the bolshevik revolution forced him to come back to Iran

it goes pretty far back

[birko19]

well, i suppose its because we are taking different paths
I plan to go back to Iran after i complete my studies while i suppose you plan on staying in canada

my father completed his studies in england before returning to Iran and my great-grandfather studied/worked in russia before the bolshevik revolution forced him to come back to Iran

it goes pretty far back

And I plan to go back to.... Well, you get the point, no Assyria to go back to lol, just a bunch of blood greedy thirsty Arabs and Kurds cock fighting over the small piece of soil that some of our people still live on.

In the end of the day I would rather live under Canadian or western culture over any country in the middle east, while culturally we are middle eastern, our goals are more western.

[Iranian]

And I plan to go back to.... Well, you get the point, no Assyria to go back to lol, just a bunch of blood greedy thirsty Arabs and Kurds cock fighting over the small piece of soil that some of our people still live on.
.


Like i said, i have quite a few Kurdish relatives on my mom's side of the family (through marriage) and i must say that they are a rather "difficult" people :lol:

i have seen some epic marital fights involving my family members and their kurdish spouses
it usually doesnt stop until a good number of plates have flown

PS. im sure the ninenveh area still contains assyrian majority districts and if the kurds could get their own autonomous region they why shouldnt assyrians?

[PolskiMoc]

If WWII didnt happen, and we just built weapons, we'd just have ended up with a huge pile of bombs and battleships and a gigantic national debt. Only the destruction of other country's industries and the killing of unemployed people proved to be a permanent 'solution' to the depression.

USA needs to wean itself off government industrial complexes military or otherwise.

The U.S Unemployment rate dropped 15 percent during WW2. the U.S had 130 million people at the start of World War 2.
So at least 20 million Americans would have had to die to have cuased that drop in unemployment.
The losses in American life were 400,000 nopt 20 million.

So it is a fact that Miltary Manfuacturing, & Hiring people to be Soldiers did in fact help in dropping the U.S Unemployment rates by about 15 percent During WW2.

It is an unfortunate fact that in Rural areas of America people do depend on the Miltary for income & for things like Prisons & Miltary bases. Without that the Rural areas would be Third World in status.
It is unfortunate that the Miltary Industrial Complex & Prison systems have become a profitable business. One that supplies massive amounts of profits & jobs for U.S Citzens.


But, I do agree with you that we should lower Miltary spending & then Lower Taxes with that.

Our Miltary spending in the U.S is NEARLY as High as all of the other countries in the world combined.
It is out fo control.

[Philip Daniel]

There are 80 million persians and we are not surrounded on three side by people who are thirsty for our blood (the Mediterranean sea is your friendliest neighbor).

Yes, but you are oppressing the Ahwazi Arabs, Balochs, Baha'is, and political dissidents (so-called moharebin). A keg, ready to explode at any moment.


oh and we are not going to be bred into a minority in our country within the next 50 years

No, you'll just be chastised severely -- figuratively torn from the pages of history -- if the mad mullahs try anything vile to create the necessary fitnah in order to bring back Hujjat ibn al-Hasan from the well and thus commence the establishment of the Imamate. But that's unlikely, of course ;)...

And, as for your comments on Jewish culture...

Fail. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmdlVWy7BDg)

Jews are a part of Western Culture -- the West is defined by the values of Jerusalem as well as Athens and Rome -- and have constituted many of her greatest intellectuals and artists.

[windie]

I would probably to be under the Japanese.

[Philip Daniel]

I would probably to be under the Japanese.

The Japanese have this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12BV6zVPvPg)...

But, also sadly, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEhubSOtcI)

But no culture, no polity is perfect...

[Iranian]

Yes, but you are oppressing the Ahwazi Arabs, Balochs, Baha'is, and political dissidents (so-called moharebin). A keg, ready to explode at any moment.[/URL]

I would probably be classified as a "Mohareb" and a "Murtad" by some fundmentalists within the regime
Nevertheless, im still an iranian and the only disagreement is over what path best serves the interests of Iran

Your enemies, on the other hand, want nothing short of your full extermination.
I sincerely hope that doesnt happen because i consider ashkenazi jews an asset to humanity

however, the sephardim and mizrahim are expendable :lol:

[Philip Daniel]

I sincerely hope that doesnt happen because i consider ashkenazi jews an asset to humanity

however, the sephardim and mizrahim are expendable :lol:

I'm half-insulted...

I hope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lazarus) you're kidding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Spinoza) about (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Sassoon) Sephardim/Mizrahim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Louri%C3%A9)...

[Iranian]

I'm half-insulted...

I hope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lazarus) you're kidding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Spinoza) about (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Sassoon) Sephardim/Mizrahim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Louri%C3%A9)...

you havent heard of the ashkenazi one drop rule? :o

you better start getting full-insulted :lol:

[slick willy]

dude's only half Sephard...anyways, Im with Iranian on this. When I think of Ashkenazi, I think of Einstein...When I think of Sephardic Jews I think of those pony tailed guys at the mall selling sea salt manicure/pedicure sets.

[pinguin]

dude's only half Sephard...anyways, Im with Iranian on this. When I think of Ashkenazi, I think of Einstein...When I think of Sephardic Jews I think of those pony tailed guys at the mall selling sea salt manicure/pedicure sets.

Who are you, and where are you from, to feel you are better than Sephardic Jews? After all, Einstein admired Spinoza: a Sephardic Jew.

[Iranian]

When I think of Sephardic Jews I think of those pony tailed guys at the mall selling sea salt manicure/pedicure sets.

LOL! i know exactely what youre talking about

There were a bunch of sephardim looking fellows at our mall who represent this Israeli company called "Dead Sea Spa"

They have been at our mall for over a year and a few months ago they finally managed to trick my mom into buying one of their damn creams while she was in the US visiting me

I showed my mom the label on the back of the cream that said "Made in Israel" and she started hyperventilating :lol:

[slick willy]

Who are you, and where are you from, to feel you are better than Sephardic Jews? After all, Einstein admired Spinoza: a Sephardic Jew.

When did I claim feel I am better than Sephardic Jews? Who cares who einstein admired, I dont...I care abot the theory of relativity.

[pinguin]

When did I claim feel I am better than Sephardic Jews? Who cares who einstein admired, I dont...I care abot the theory of relativity.

Einstein copied it, anyways.:whoco:

[Iranian]

Who are you, and where are you from, to feel you are better than Sephardic Jews? After all, Einstein admired Spinoza: a Sephardic Jew.

pinguin he was simply making a personal observation

dont bring your racism and your poor english into every damn thread

[pinguin]

pinguin he was simply making a personal observation

dont bring your racism and your poor english into every damn thread

Fellow.Sephardic means Spaniard!!!! Anyways. I leave.

[asdrubal cabrera]

Einstein copied it, anyways.:whoco:

Btw Einstein also surmised the Photoelectric Effect, Brownian Motion, and Mass Energy Equivalence. All of which could have won him a Nobel Prize. He didn't even win a Nobel Prize for Relativity, he won it for the Photoelectric Effect.

[slick willy]

LOL! i know exactely what youre talking about

There were a bunch of sephardim looking fellows at our mall who represent this Israeli company called "Dead Sea Spa"

They have been at our mall for over a year and a few months ago they finally managed to trick my mom into buying one of their damn creams while she was in the US visiting me

I showed my mom the label on the back of the cream that said "Made in Israel" and she started hyperventilating :lol:

LOL yeah, pushy mofos never take no for an answer, and they hit on any female with a pulse.

[M16]

By the Austrians.

[Iranian]

they hit on any female with a pulse.

They set up a virtual blockade on area in front of their store
They look out for couples
They isolate the males and females
They start flirting with the female and rub all sorts of lotions all over her :whoco:
Then they try to gilt trip the male in front of the female in order to get him to buy her something

I go to this particular mall all the time and there were times when i was on a date and i felt ready to buy whatever they wanted me to buy just so i could get them to stop rubbing lotions into my date :mad:

The problem is that they are right on a major passageway in the mall so now when im with someone i take the elevator to the second floor, walk past them on the floor above, and then i take the elevator back to the 1st floor when ive passed them, lol

its a waste of 10 min but its worth not getting humiliated and not having a bunch of sephardics rub your date up

[birko19]

Like i said, i have quite a few Kurdish relatives on my mom's side of the family (through marriage) and i must say that they are a rather "difficult" people :lol:

i have seen some epic marital fights involving my family members and their kurdish spouses
it usually doesnt stop until a good number of plates have flown

PS. im sure the ninenveh area still contains assyrian majority districts and if the kurds could get their own autonomous region they why shouldnt assyrians?

The Nineveh area still has villages that are Assyrian majority, but the Arabs and Kurds are the majority in the areas around and they're fighting over that land, the minorities simply don't matter to them.

[carlos]

By the Japanese people.

[OldPretan]

dude's only half Sephard...anyways, Im with Iranian on this. When I think of Ashkenazi, I think of Einstein...When I think of Sephardic Jews I think of those pony tailed guys at the mall selling sea salt manicure/pedicure sets.

Intriguing, they're at my mall in W. England, one of them buffed a fingernail of mine last december whilst trying to sell me solstitial presents for my wife.
It's clear evidence of a global conspiracy to feminise western males.

[paleolithic]

[QUOTE=JoshK;113768]

Wait,all the inventions you take for granted were created by the white man



Many of the inventions and discoveries we take for granted here in the west actually originates in other places, As for example paper money, rockets, tea, compass (if you ever camp or hike or are boating), advanced ship hull technology, wheel barrows (handy if you have a garden) comes from China, syringes, rubber, corn, chocolate, vanilla comes from native Americans, art, religion, coffee comes from Africans. And the wheel, agriculture and domestication of many animals comes from the Middle Easterners (who are not considered very white).

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Maybe it would be nice to be governed by some more natural culture that is free from many of the neurosis we have here in the west (and of course in the middle east) and that originally stems from the Abrahamitic religions. maybe it would be nice to be governed by the Trobriand island people or by some peaceful Amazon Native American group. Or maybe by the San from Southern Africa.

[JoshK]

And tons more from Bharat..

[Grasshoppa]

From a person oblivious to politics: Japan. I'm sure there's shit I don't know about but I'm a Japanophile.

[windie]

From a person oblivious to politics: Japan. I'm sure there's shit I don't know about but I'm a Japanophile.

I chose Japan too :D . I guess it's because Tokyo city looks good. I know little about their history. In Africa it would be the Pygmies.

[Pallantides]

Japan is cool and all but I'd rather not be a subhuman gaijin under Japanese overlords.

[carlos]

Japan is cool and all but I'd rather not be a subhuman gaijin under Japanese overlords.

Yeah, I guess you are right. Maybe under their political regime and using their advanced techonology, but not living among the society.

[Creature]

In its purest - not puritan - form, Islamic civilisations gave historically been the most tolerant.

Though the modern 'Islamic republics' and false historical misconstructions have never truly allowed the glorious history of civilisations such as Andalusia be tryly remembered.

[Yautja_BR]

Any culture that departs itself from Religion..


Religion SUCKS!!

[Creature]

Sure.

Its not as if Nazi Germany discriminated on appearance.

hitler is soooo misunderstood.
Any culture that departs itself from Religion..


Religion SUCKS!!

[sean]

Any culture with a monarchy with the exception of the UK.

[Trolljegeren]

no way...there´s a saying in my land that goes..."Better the known evil that the goodness unknown"

[aregint]

By the Sweddish or Finnish, I don't mind to pay 70% of my salary in taxes if we're going to get that quality of life.

[DragonRouge]

Any culture with a monarchy with the exception of the UK.

Canada's ruled by the British monarchy, it's not so bad.

Although I'd totally high-five the Queen if she kicked out our neocon in office.

The Queen does have the power to overthrow the Canadian government. I doubt it'll even happen, though. She did prorogue it a couple years ago under the request of the PM though.

[CWF]

1. Mexicans. So I can sneak back into the U.S.
2. Canadians. For the same reason, but slightly harder because I'd have to become a television personality first.

Barring that, I'd go for:

3. Brazilians because the women are kinda hot and their economy is taking off; or

4. people of the Caribbean, since I might pass and it's not like my ancestors haven't rolled through there before.

[sgc2009]

By the Sweddish or Finnish, I don't mind to pay 70% of my salary in taxes if we're going to get that quality of life.

What quality of life? Sweden have some of Europe's worst schools, high crime etc. Finland is probably good, Sweden aren't the same since the 60s/70s since our extremist socialists got their politics established.

[sean]

Canada's ruled by the British monarchy, it's not so bad.

Although I'd totally high-five the Queen if she kicked out our neocon in office.

The Queen does have the power to overthrow the Canadian government. I doubt it'll even happen, though. She did prorogue it a couple years ago under the request of the PM though.

You are right, i was thinking in the UK. Canada and Australia are beautiful countries, but my problem is with the House of the Windsor, i dont like any of them, maybe Prince William could change the image i have of them.

[elone]

I'm already ruled by the 'white man' so what can I say.... (shrugs) :lol:

lulz.



i want to be ruled by myself..i dont want anyone to hold me down.

FREEBURDS.

[AlexDelarge]

Anyone but spaniards ;)

[DragonRouge]

You are right, i was thinking in the UK. Canada and Australia are beautiful countries, but my problem is with the House of the Windsor, i dont like any of them, maybe Prince William could change the image i have of them.

I'm pretty apathetic about the monarchy, really.

[Ekarfi]

Canada , & perhaps Germany ..my 2 cents ^

[alfieb]

Switzerland.

[Ekarfi]

Richer people love Switzerland lolz

[Incanal]

From the Americas: The Canucks.

From Europe: The Dutch.

From Asia: Singapore.

[Masahiroguren]

Brazilian jungle indians, since they are the purest distant brothers of us and I love their way of life. I seriously do not want to be ruled by christians and jews.

[sean]

I'm pretty apathetic about the monarchy, really.

I like the Monarchy, the Tradition, etc. But there is something about the Queen Elizabeth i don't like, i don't know. She is a very important woman and intelligent. But i don't like her neither Charles. A English friend i have told me that their are not English but foreign and the Windsor House was an invent the actually were saxo-somthing... i don't know (i suck at history) :confused:

[AlexDelarge]

I like the Monarchy, the Tradition, etc. But there is something about the Queen Elizabeth i don't like, i don't know. She is a very important woman and intelligent. But i don't like her neither Charles. A English friend i have told me that their are not English but foreign and the Windsor House was an invent the actually were saxo-somthing... i don't know (i suck at history) :confused:

European royal families have married each other for centuries. None of them are 100% local people by ancestry. The english royal family is no different.

Unless you take exceptions like princess Diana or princess Letizia, which were commoners or "normal people".

[DragonRouge]

European royal families have married each other for centuries. None of them are 100% local people by ancestry. The english royal family is no different.

Unless you take exceptions like princess Diana or princess Letizia, which were commoners or "normal people".

Well, aren't the English royal family really of German descent?

[AlexDelarge]

Well, aren't the English royal family really of German descent?

I'm not an expert on them but that's the general rule in Europe: royals marry other royals, many times from other european countries. If we go down the family tree of the english royal family i'm sure we will observe that.

[DragonRouge]

I'm not an expert on them but that's the general rule in Europe: royals marry other royals, many times from other european countries. If we go down the family tree of the english royal family i'm sure we will observe that.

Well yeah, I knew that. But in the really old days they inbred to keep their lines "pure", and didn't start marrying royals from other countries until quite recently.

That's why hemophilia runs in many European royal families (and probably genetic diseases run in royal families elsewhere).

[Papa Anodyne]

Well yeah, I knew that. But in the really old days they inbred to keep their lines "pure", and didn't start marrying royals from other countries until quite recently.

That's why hemophilia runs in many European royal families (and probably genetic diseases run in royal families elsewhere).

Royal families have been marrying other royals from foreign nations since as far back as the 11th century. It's how alliances were formed.

[DragonRouge]

Royal families have been marrying other royals from foreign nations since as far back as the 11th cnetury. It's how alliances were formed.

Yeah but Europe is older than the 11th Century.

The royals in the ancient Middle East and North Africa used to inbreed as well.

[Incanal]

Well, aren't the English royal family really of German descent?

I think most of the European Royalty is.

[sean]

I have found the history of the Windsor House, they were Saxe-Coburg and Gotha before 1917 then they change the surname to hide the German image, specially in war times. They have English ascendancy only by the Queen Victoria and now by Princess Diana.

[AlexDelarge]

Our last king was quite mixed. His full name was:

Carlos Fernando Luís Maria Vítor Miguel Rafael Gabriel Gonzaga Xavier Francisco de Assis José Simão de Bragança Sabóia Bourbon Saxe-Coburgo-Gotha

The bolded names point to various foreign origins, his mother was an italian princess from Savoy (half austrian Habsbourg) and his father was the previous portuguese king, half austrian (which had belgian ancestry too), half "portuguese-bourbon-habsbourg".

Quite complex and inbred, via the Habsbourgs.

[sean]

I think most of the European Royalty is.

The House of Bourbons in Spain were French at some point, but im not sure if they have German roots deep in the past.

[Incanal]

The House of Bourbons in Spain were French at some point, but im not sure if they have German roots deep in the past.

Through Philip the Handsome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_I_of_Castile).

[Arminfrench]

Mexico seems pretty laissez-faire. I would pick Mexican, or Thai.

Hahahahaha you don't know what youre saying.....Mexican politicians soon would erase every possibility you could have a good lever of life and a future for you and your family and you'll end up jumping the border or becoming member of a drug cartel...:whoco:

[Atesh]

Japanese.

[Loxias]

The Chinese. I like their pragmatic approach to life and politics, as well as their materialism (in a Marxist sense), I like their art (in a wide sense of the word) from the past and from nowadays a lot. And I don't mind the conformism.

I would be really happy to have a good incentive to properly learn mandarin too.

[daraccount2]

If not Western than another free culture. No idea which.

[Luckybastard]

:sick:
My country has been ruled by arabs long enough.
Now is our time :mad: