View Full Version : R1b1b2a1a2e: Anyone know anything about this Y haplogroup?
BeijaFlor
2010-10-08, 21:35
I have been confirmed R1b1b2a1a2e via EthnoAncestry :thumbsup: Which is great, but it is also a bit frustrating.
I've found very little information on the haplogroup (http://http://www.enotes.com/topic/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)), and only have my own speculations.
My father's surname is Tolliver, which is Scottish, but I believe that the origins of this group are Norse, making its' way to Scotland during the Norse migrations.
Does anyone know anything about this haplogroup? You would think that with fewer than 10 individuals I.D'd they would be all over this one...
EliasAlucard
2010-10-12, 08:40
It's a recent subclade? I've never seen the e there before on R1b subclades so I'd assume it's a recent mutation in the Americas.
It's a recent subclade? I've never seen the e there before on R1b subclades so I'd assume it's a recent mutation in the Americas.
No this is a European mutation, although it's rare and is found in about 2% of the R1b population, like the other R1b1b2a1a2's, it's found in Western Europe.
BeijaFlor
2010-10-12, 19:42
No this is a European mutation, although it's rare and is found in about 2% of the R1b population, like the other R1b1b2a1a2's, it's found in Western Europe.
Right, so if it is rare it should therefore be highly regionalized (pre-1492)? The few tidbits of info I've found:
R1b1b2a1a2e (http://www.enotes.com/topic/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA))
This subclade is defined by the presence of the marker S68 which was reported by in 2007. It has been seen in an individual from Scotland and another from Sweden. This subclade is unlikely to be found in much more than 2% of the R1b population.[25] In Fall 2009 Family Tree DNA discovered the same SNP in and named it L165.
I'd bet that it is a Norse marker. There are parts of Sweden, notably Bohuslän which was Norse; Halland / Scania (Skåne) were Danish.
In Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Scotland): In the aftermath of the 795 Viking raid on Iona, the Norse Jarls of Orkney took hold of the Western Isles, Caithness and Sutherland, while Norse settlers mixed with the inhabitants of Galloway to become the Gallgaels.
So, in light of the very little information on my Y-Hap I'm going to assume that some vikings went to Scotland post 795. Then with the European Colonization of America, this haplogroup arrived there. Interestingly, in the 23andMe's Ancestry Finder my highest matches are 1. US 2. UK, 3. Norway, 4. Sweden, 5. Brazil, 6. Portugal....
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