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			<title>of what country I could be?</title>
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			<title>Desmond Hatchett: Man With 30 Kids Requests Child-Support Break</title>
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			<description>What incentives can be offered to keep men like Hatchett from shooting his powerful sperm into any woman who gives him the time of day? 
   
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<div>What incentives can be offered to keep men like Hatchett from shooting his powerful sperm into any woman who gives him the time of day?<br />
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				A 33-year-old Knoxville, Tenn. man with 30 children appeared in court this week to ask the state for child-support help, Memphis news station WREG reported Wednesday.<br />
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Desmond Hatchett has fathered 30 children</b> -- which is believed to be the record in Knox county, according to the Los Angeles Times -- with 11 different women. His youngest children are toddlers and his oldest is 14.<br />
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Hatchett reportedly asked the court to give him a break on his payments, claiming that he's struggling to make ends meet with his minimum-wage job. Currently, the state requires him to divide 50 percent of his earnings among the 11 women, some of whom receive as little as $1.49 a month, WREG reports.<br />
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How did Hatchett come to father so many children? “I had four kids in the same year. Twice,&quot; he told Volunteer TV in 2009. He also told a local news station that year that he was &quot;done&quot; having kids (he had only 21 at the time).<br />
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Hatchett isn't the only serial father to make headlines. NFL player Antonio Cromartie, 28, famously fathered 10 children by eight women in six states.<br />
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			<title>Male Pattern Baldness:Which ethnic group is most likely?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 09:45:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>As stated,I know it is probably Caucasoids,but can someone tell me which meta ethnicities?I always had though it was certain peoples around the...</description>
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<div>As stated,I know it is probably Caucasoids,but can someone tell me which meta ethnicities?I always had though it was certain peoples around the Meditteranean basin and particularly Jews,but I am not too sure.I also heard it is an epidemic in Armenia and the Caucasus? Also among Australoids,I am curious to see what their rates are.</div>


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			<title>Is there REALLY someone out there for everyone?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 08:11:04 GMT</pubDate>
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<div>DISCLAIMER: I don't say this to be negative, and this is not meant to be a negative perspective. In fact, it is quite the opposite.<br />
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Personally, I think part of the problem is that being 'single' is viewed as a negative thing. True, as humans we all desire the companionship of another human being at some point or another, and eventually we all get this companionship, even if it doesn't necessarily last forever. But somehow, we all get this idea, that EVERYONE is meant to find that someone to spend forever with. When in reality, some people are probably better off alone or don't make great long-term partners. Do you really think serial killers and child molesters deserve a wife and family? What about those men who beat their wives? The men- aren't deserving of it. And the women... are probably better off alone than with one of those scumbags. Sadly, some of the 'undeserving' ones are able to find a long-term mate. While some with the more 'deserving' qualities, sometimes have difficulty finding one. And we worry about finding Mr. or Mrs. right, because we have this belief that we are ALL entitled to a loving relationship. <b>Our time on this Earth is borrowed, and no one is entitled to anything.</b> The same way some people work hard all their lives and never get rich, some of us work hard on being a good 'boyfriend' or good 'girlfriend', like those who work hard, of course, we'll all get SOMETHING out of it, but not all of us hit the jackpot. <br />
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A lot of the older women in my family (50s and 60s) are single and didn't find 'the one'. Yet, they live happy and wholesome lives. Of course, they fell in love a few times in their life. But they were either in good relationships that just happened to fall apart, or bad ones that were better off getting out of. That doesn't mean there is something wrong with them. In fact, some people function more efficiently when they are not in a relationship than in one. <br />
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MY ideal in a relationship, isn't someone who completes me, but someone who complements me. Brings out the best in what I already have. Someone who I can share my talents, dreams, and ambitions with. Someone we can make something out of our lives together with. Someone who builds you up, not brings you down. And they have to be a little competitive, 'cause with competitiveness, there is arguing and just a little bit of arguing, is supplemental to a relationship because it challenges you to think, and if they are competitive, they will try to outdo you, and you will try to outdo them, and before you know it, you'll be better each other that way, and it will never be boring. Everyday will be a challenge, but a healthy one. And If I can't find that, I'd rather be alone.</div>


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			<title>Influence of Islam in LatinAmerica</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 06:56:15 GMT</pubDate>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">Oh yeah you have worked in Brazil and lived in Argentina too if I remember quite correctly right? Well I don't buy your stuff. I just think you make out stuff because you don't have anything better to do.<br />
I'll just answer this because the rest had a very emotional tone, maybe you are on one of those days. Anyway, Latin America has its differences and similarities but most of the governments here have a similar position regarding never pull down the pants to immigrants and similar pariahs.</div>
			
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You don't have to believe me, I will just post some facts sustaining my point with the respective objective sources:<br />
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				<div style="font-style:italic">Because the more Western the world gets, the best for everybody.<br />
And second, overwhelmingly most of the MENAs who came here were Christians thank God.</div>
			
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				<div style="font-style:italic">It does, because that way muslims expand making the world a worst place to live while their original countries remain as backward too.</div>
			
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1) Middle East  population in Latinamerica is not only Christians, there are a numerous population of Jewish and Muslims:<br />
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				 Muslim leaders estimate that there are <b>between 700,000 and 3 million Muslims</b>, with the lower figure representing active practitioners. There are significant Muslim communities in the industrial suburbs of the city of São Paulo and in the port city of Santos, as well as in smaller communities in Paraná State in the coastal region and in Curitiba and Foz do Iguazu in the Argentina-Brazil-Paraguay triborder area. The community is overwhelmingly Sunni; the Sunnis are almost completely assimilated into broader society. The recent Shi'ite immigrants gravitate to small insular communities in São Paulo, Curitiba, and Foz do Iguazu. Sunni and Shi'a Islam are practiced predominantly by immigrants who arrived during the past 25 years from Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt.
			
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_del_Este" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_del_Este</a><br />
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				The city has a large Asian-born population, specifically Taiwanese, Koreans, Lebanese, and Iranians, evident in the city's <b>mosque</b> and pagodas. The Taiwanese government paid for the construction of the city's town hall in exchange for Paraguayan support in the United Nations, hence the Taiwanese flag that flies on the building. The total population of its metropolitan area is estimated at 700,000 people.<br />
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From the 1970s,<b> Sunni Muslim Arabs moved to the city. This changed in the 1980s to Shia Muslim Arabs from South Lebanon.[1]</b>
			
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2) Middle East Christians and Jewish in LatinAmerica go along and help each other, specially because the food, traditions and values are similar regardless their beliefs. They all immigrated together<br />
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This photo is from Brazil you can see Religious Arab leaders of Islam and Christianity reunited.<br />
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3) Muslims in Latinamerica made it a better place and have a big impact in culture. <br />
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Menem an Argentinian Muslim of Syrianand Lebanese parents improved the Argentina that was devastated by the dictatorship, also ended with the mandatory conscription that was used to punish the poor people:<br />
<a href="http://www.economist.com/node/208025" target="_blank">http://www.economist.com/node/208025</a><br />
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				WHEN Carlos Menem took over as Argentina’s president in 1989, he did so amid chaos. His hapless predecessor stepped down five months early, overwhelmed by hyperinflation. After a decade of Mr Menem, Argentina is now much stronger. Its currency board, which pegs the peso at par to the dollar and limits the money supply to the level of hard-currency reserves, killed inflation years ago.
			
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Mosque in Foz do Iguaçu:<br />
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Brazil is full of Islamic Benificience centres to help people and teach culture.<br />
This video show Boy Scouts kids in a islamic centre.<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/35836458" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/35836458</a><br />
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3) Muslims in Latinamerica are involved in the society and considered valuable members of the society.<br />
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Sao Paulo<br />
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Cristians and Muslims in Brazil togheter in a meeting for the world peace<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/39122371" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/39122371</a><br />
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2) Muslims living in LatinAmerica have the same rights than anyone else<br />
3) Muslim living in Brazil or Argentina are more Brazilian or Argentinian than you and have more rights, you are Peruvian and not a pan LatinAmerican.<br />
4) Muslim and other Middle east groups including Jewish, Christians and Atheist have a privileged position in the society, they are in a Power position and don't have to give explanations to you.<br />
They are into politics, communication, science and business and arts, usually live in the best neighbourhoods and they deserve that because they study and work hard. <br />
Sao Paulo (Richest city in LatinAmerica) most powerful groups are the Italians, Greeks, Germans and Middle Eastern (Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Atheist).<br />
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This woman owns several factories and is married now with the next President of Argentina and heir of a big fortune<br />
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Muslim (now Atheist) owner of media, telecommunication and news agency in many latinamerican countries:<br />
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			<title>rate Johnny Depp on masculinity</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 02:29:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Drogomir</dc:creator>
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			<title>middle-class people in Mexico?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 00:19:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>how many people in Mexico are middle-class according to western standards?</description>
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			<title>12 Lost Tribes of Israel</title>
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<div>So, what is everyones take on who exactly these tribes are?<br />
There's the 'Black Hebrew Israelites' who believe Afram, Latinos and Native Americans descend from those tribes, then there's Brit-Am, the people who believe the English descended from the children of Israel and of course the theory of Pakhtuns and Kashmiri ethnics having supposed links to the lost tribes of Israel.<br />
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<div>One thing that's really puzzled and annoyed me in such forums. What is this obsession with being labelled &quot;white&quot; or being labelled &quot;European&quot;? And we all know how subjective those terms are to start with :lol:<br />
<br />
Why are people intent on having their ethnic groups labelled into such subjective constructs? Whatever happened to just focusing to your ethnic group's label and the unique characteristics and elements that come with it? I just see this obsession of being labelled white as so one-dimensional and petty. For example, cramming Irish, Welch people with Greek, Bulgarian people under one label is just moronic in my view. For the record, I'm not one of the people on the other hand that ignores that there are different races and different people, I just view this obsession of being labelled under such terms a bit childish at times. I think we have to be more &quot;localised&quot; in viewing ethnic groups rather than trying to look at it at such a large scale thus blurring the many differences that exist...</div>


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			<description>Hello :thumbsup: 
 
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<div>Hello :thumbsup:<br />
<br />
I thought I would post my results as that seems to be quite popular here.<br />
Then maybe you can help me solve a little bit of a mystery.<br />
<br />
Paternal Haplogroup: R1b1b2a1a<br />
Maternal Haplogroup: T2b2<br />
<br />
Europe100%<br />
Asia0%<br />
Africa0%<br />
<br />
Northern Europeans - 67.96<br />
Southern Europeans - 67.86<br />
Near Easterners - 67.23<br />
Central Asians - 66.98<br />
Northern Africans - 66.48<br />
North Americans - 66.16<br />
Siberians - 66.12<br />
South Americans - 66.04 <br />
Eastern Asians - 65.8<br />
Oceanians - 65.67<br />
Eastern Africans - 63.48<br />
Southern Africans - 63.34<br />
Central Africans - 63.31<br />
Western Africans - 63.27<br />
<br />
I did quite a bit of research into my family history before signing up to 23andme. My direct male line is from Cornwall via my great great grandfather, and my direct female line is also from Cornwall thanks to my great great grandmother. Almost everyone else in between is from Yorkshire, with a handful from nearby Derbyshire and County Durham. <br />
I have only found one person not born in England, and he was Irish.<br />
<br />
This leaves me a little confused regarding my Dodecad results. As you will see, I am somewhat different from the average British/English person and I just don't understand why. On some tests I come out as being pretty close to Orkadian, and on others I match &quot;Mixed Germanic&quot; quite closely. Being from Yorkshire, I expected to be perhaps a little bit closer to Scandinavia, but I also have a much larger South Western component than your average Englishman. This doesn't seem to be explained by the Cornish influence either.<br />
<br />
EURO7<br />
6.97%  Caucasus            <br />
 48.49%  Northwestern        <br />
 18.90%  Northeastern        <br />
  7.41%  Southeastern        <br />
  0.03%  African             <br />
  0.02%  Far_Asian           <br />
 18.18%  Southwestern <br />
<br />
K7B<br />
 0.75%  South_Asian         <br />
 11.40%  West_Asian          <br />
  0.53%  Siberian            <br />
  0.00%  African             <br />
 14.54%  Southern            <br />
 72.79%  Atlantic_Baltic     <br />
  0.00%  East_Asian  <br />
<br />
DIY Dodecad V3<br />
9.90%  East_European       <br />
 52.74%  West_European       <br />
 28.06%  Mediterranean       <br />
  0.00%  Neo_African         <br />
  8.36%  West_Asian          <br />
  0.56%  South_Asian         <br />
  0.09%  Northeast_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  Southeast_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  East_African        <br />
  0.07%  Southwest_Asian     <br />
  0.22%  Northwest_African   <br />
  0.00%  Palaeo_African   <br />
<br />
k12a<br />
39.48%  Mediterranean       <br />
  0.00%  Far_Asian           <br />
  0.27%  Siberian            <br />
 44.12%  North_European      <br />
  0.07%  South_Asian         <br />
  0.00%  West_African        <br />
  8.55%  Caucasus            <br />
  7.18%  Gedrosia            <br />
  0.00%  East_African        <br />
  0.31%  Southwest_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  Southeast_Asian     <br />
  0.02%  Northwest_African <br />
<br />
k12b<br />
  9.13%  Gedrosia            <br />
  0.16%  Siberian            <br />
  0.14%  Northwest_African   <br />
  0.00%  Southeast_Asian     <br />
 39.38%  Atlantic_Med        <br />
 42.32%  North_European      <br />
  0.48%  South_Asian         <br />
  0.00%  East_African        <br />
  0.15%  Southwest_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  East_Asian          <br />
  8.23%  Caucasus            <br />
  0.00%  Sub_Saharan <br />
<br />
WEAC<br />
 79.13%  Atlantic-Baltic     <br />
 20.43%  Near-East           <br />
  0.41%  Far-East            <br />
  0.03%  Africa  <br />
<br />
World9<br />
0.01%  Amerindian          <br />
  0.00%  East_Asian          <br />
  0.00%  African             <br />
 72.78%  Atlantic_Baltic     <br />
  0.00%  Australasian        <br />
  0.87%  Siberian            <br />
 12.09%  Caucasus_Gedrosia   <br />
 13.40%  Southern            <br />
  0.85%  South_Asian<br />
<br />
Anyway those are my results. Hopefully this will provide something interesting for you all. Any suggestions on what to do next would be great, I have already uploaded to Gedmatch and done the Eurogenes tests etc there, but haven't found a database to compare my results to.</div>


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<div>Can it eliminate all or at least most genetic diseases?  Of course, it can't prevent new mutations from taking place, but it can eliminate the deleterious genes which are already present, right?  If so, to what degree?  Can it really create a &quot;master race&quot;?  Can it achieve, say, a 30 pt average IQ increase?  Can it undo thousands of years of evolution and turn, say, the Negritos into a tribe of tall, muscular athletes?  Can it backfire and cause an increase in serious genetic diseases or a significant drop in IQ?<br />
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Basically what I'm asking is how far can it go?  And, how can it backfire and become detrimental to a population?</div>


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<div>Or, in other words, which race has the hottest body?</div>


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			<title>Beautiful women and ugly men</title>
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			<description>What draws beautiful women to repulsive men?  I see it all the time, beautiful women with slightly less-than-perfect to downright brutal looking...</description>
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<div>What draws beautiful women to repulsive men?  I see it all the time, beautiful women with slightly less-than-perfect to downright brutal looking guys.  What's the deal?  <br />
<br />
Someone told me that women actually prefer ugly dudes because they think they're less likely to cheat or be approached and seduced by other women. Is this true?</div>


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			<description>If anyone remembers, I stated that my father was Mex-Am (Sonora/Alta California), my mother was Euro-Am (swede/Brit/Ger) .  
 
My results are; 83.7%...</description>
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<div>If anyone remembers, I stated that my father was Mex-Am (Sonora/Alta California), my mother was Euro-Am (swede/Brit/Ger) . <br />
<br />
My results are; 83.7% Euro (70.5% is western Euro, )<br />
                        1.7% mideast (Turk/Iran)<br />
                       14.6% Native American<br />
<br />
:thumbsup:<br />
<br />
I am STOKED!!<br />
<br />
<br />
It confirms our genealogy research that we've had going on several yrs.</div>


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<div>I decided to make a thread like this here where all my family members are in one thread rather then some here and there ect, this is essentially a copy of the one i made over at apricity, with the exception of the updated AF scores ect.<br />
<br />
<br />
Both my maternal and paternal ancestry is from Western Norway (here painted red):<br />
<br />
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Vestlandet_in_Norway_%28plus%29.svg/250px-Vestlandet_in_Norway_%28plus%29.svg.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b><br />
First my maternal and paternal lines:</b><br />
<b><br />
Mine:</b><br />
<br />
YDNA: R1b1b2a1a2f*<br />
mtDNA: U5b1b1(T16192C)<br />
<br />
<b><br />
Maternal Uncle:</b><br />
<br />
YDNA: R1b1b2a1a2d3*<br />
mtDNA: U5b1b1(T16192C)<br />
<br />
<b>Maternal Grandmother:</b><br />
<br />
mtDNA: U5b1b1(T16192C)<br />
<br />
<b>Paternal aunt:</b><br />
<br />
mtDNA: H13a1a<br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Ancestry paintings/Chromosome paintings (mcDonalds and Eurogenes K13 in that order):</b><br />
<br />
<b>Me:</b><br />
<img src="http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2585/49210976voza.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6456/me2tq.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b>Maternal Uncle:</b><br />
<img src="http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7026/maternaluncle.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6263/unc2.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b>Maternal grandmother:</b><br />
<img src="http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/757/maternalgran.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8365/granny2u.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b>Paternal aunt:</b><br />
<img src="http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8428/paternalaunt.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1006/aunt2.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Admixture scores (Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad dv3 in that order):<br />
<b><br />
<br />
Mine:</b><br />
<br />
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				North European 62.29%<br />
Mediterranean 26.13%<br />
Caucasus 3.99%<br />
West Central Asian 3.43%<br />
South Asian 1.20%<br />
Southwest Asian 1.20%<br />
East Asian 1.19%<br />
Amerindian 0.39%<br />
West African 0.18%<br />
Northeast African -<br />
North Eurasian -<br />
Pygmy -<br />
East Siberian -
			
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				East_European 8.84%<br />
West_European 67.19%<br />
Mediterranean 19.67%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 3.09%<br />
South_Asian 0.55%<br />
Northeast_Asian -<br />
Southeast_Asian 0.67%<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian -<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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Maternal uncle:</b><br />
<br />
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				North European 59.76%<br />
Mediterranean 26.47%<br />
Caucasus 5.62%<br />
West Central Asian 3.37%<br />
East Asian 1.54%<br />
Southwest Asian 1.18%<br />
South Asian 1.17%<br />
North Eurasian 0.46%<br />
Pygmy 0.39%<br />
Northeast African -<br />
East Siberian -<br />
West African -<br />
Amerindian -
			
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				East_European 12.40%<br />
West_European 58.97%<br />
Mediterranean 21.28%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 5.42%<br />
South_Asian 0.84%<br />
Northeast_Asian -<br />
Southeast_Asian 1.04%<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian -<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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				North European 60.15%<br />
Mediterranean 25.57%<br />
Caucasus 5.41%<br />
West Central Asian 3.96%<br />
Southwest Asian 2.02%<br />
South Asian 1.63%<br />
East Siberian 0.51%<br />
Amerindian 0.25%<br />
Pygmy 0.25%<br />
North Eurasian 0.15%<br />
Northeast African 0.08%<br />
West African -<br />
East Asian -
			
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				East_European 11.95%<br />
West_European 59.08%<br />
Mediterranean 21.23%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 5.35%<br />
South_Asian 1.56%<br />
Northeast_Asian -<br />
Southeast_Asian 0.32%<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian 0.51%<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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				North European 60.30%<br />
Mediterranean 26.51%<br />
Caucasus 6.84%<br />
West Central Asian 2.09%<br />
East Siberian 1.50%<br />
Southwest Asian 1.23%<br />
West African 0.42%<br />
North Eurasian 0.36%<br />
Amerindian 0.33%<br />
East Asian 0.17%<br />
Pygmy 0.15%<br />
South Asian 0.11%<br />
Northeast African -
			
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				East_European 12.30%<br />
West_European 59.11%<br />
Mediterranean 21.14%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 6.44%<br />
South_Asian -<br />
Northeast_Asian 1.00%<br />
Southeast_Asian -<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian -<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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Default Ancestry finder results and then 5cM, both at 4gp:<br />
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<b>Mine:</b><br />
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Default:<br />
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				Norway 2.1%<br />
Denmark (Faeroe isle)0.2%<br />
United Kingdom 0.1%<br />
Germany 0.1%<br />
Finland 0.1%
			
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				Norway 4.2%<br />
United Kingdom 1.3%<br />
Sweden 0.7%<br />
Denmark 0.6%<br />
Ireland 0.4%<br />
Germany 0.4%<br />
Italy 0.3%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Netherlands 0.2%<br />
Uruguay 0.1%<br />
India 0.1%<br />
Greece 0.1%<br />
France 0.1%<br />
Finland 0.1%<br />
Estonia 0.1%<br />
Brazil 0.1%<br />
Russia 0.0%<br />
Luxembourg 0.0%
			
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				Norway 2.5%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Iceland 0.2%<br />
Finland 0.2%
			
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				Norway 5.1%<br />
United Kingdom 0.8%<br />
Sweden 0.5%<br />
Iceland 0.4%<br />
Finland 0.4%<br />
Denmark 0.4%<br />
Poland 0.3%<br />
Germany 0.3%<br />
Russia 0.2%<br />
Netherlands 0.2%<br />
Uruguay 0.1%<br />
Italy 0.1%<br />
Ireland 0.1%<br />
Estonia 0.1%<br />
Czech Republic 0.1%<br />
Cyprus 0.1%<br />
Bosnia and Herzegovina 0.1%<br />
Belgium 0.1%
			
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				Norway 3.5%<br />
Netherlands 0.3%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Germany 0.1%<br />
Denmark 0.1%
			
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				Norway 5.6%<br />
United Kingdom 1.0%<br />
Netherlands 0.6%<br />
Denmark 0.5%<br />
Sweden 0.4%<br />
Finland 0.4%<br />
Ireland 0.3%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Macedonia 0.2%<br />
Italy 0.2%<br />
Germany 0.2%<br />
Uruguay 0.1%<br />
Spain 0.1%<br />
Serbia 0.1%<br />
Romania 0.1%<br />
Mexico 0.1%<br />
India 0.1%<br />
Czech Republic 0.1%<br />
Bulgaria 0.1%<br />
Belgium 0.1%<br />
Argentina 0.1%<br />
Ukraine 0.0%<br />
Russia 0.0%<br />
Portugal 0.0%
			
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				Norway 4.0%<br />
Germany 0.4%<br />
Netherlands 0.1%<br />
Ireland 0.1%
			
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				Norway 7.2%<br />
United Kingdom 0.8%<br />
Sweden 0.5%<br />
Ireland 0.5%<br />
Germany 0.5%<br />
Denmark 0.4%<br />
Netherlands 0.3%<br />
Spain 0.2%<br />
Russia 0.2%<br />
Estonia 0.2%<br />
Venezuela 0.1%<br />
Ukraine 0.1%<br />
Romania 0.1%<br />
Poland 0.1%<br />
Mexico 0.1%<br />
Greece 0.1%<br />
Finland 0.1%<br />
Cuba 0.1%<br />
Croatia 0.1%<br />
Belgium 0.1%<br />
Austria 0.1%<br />
Italy 0.0%
			
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				Not declared Ashkenazi Jewish 73.4%–73.9%<br />
Declared Ashkenazi Jewish 0.0%–0.5%
			
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				Not declared Ashkenazi Jewish 57.5%–58.2%<br />
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
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Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
mtDNA: D4e YDNA: R1b1b2
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
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mtDNA: P10 YDNA: J2a1b1*
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.12% (9cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1902.<br />
mtDNA: B4c1c1 YDNA: I2b1
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.24% (18cM) shared<br />
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J1d1
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.09% (7cM) shared<br />
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N9a2a'b
			
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				3rd to 6th Cousin<br />
0.19% (14cM) shared<br />
2 segments<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born between 1772 and 1902.<br />
mtDNA: R1a YDNA: R1a1a*
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.12% (9cM) shared<br />
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mtDNA: H7a YDNA: D1*
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
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mtDNA: H1c YDNA: O1a1*
			
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				3rd to 5th Cousin<br />
0.51% (38cM) shared<br />
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G2a
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.16% (12cM) shared<br />
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mtDNA: K1c2 YDNA: J1e
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
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So far ive found German ties via my maternal aunt, which is linked to the Hansa league in all likelihood, this i see in a number of ways, i found lots of German cousins at RF and also at default AF levels i see Germany as her second highest % at 0,5%.<br />
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Ive also found Tatar ties to Russia via my maternal side using RF, i see it both in my uncle and grandmother, but strongest in my uncle, this i think is because both my maternal grandfather and grandmother came from approximately the same place and so they were likely related distantly at least and so any Tatar ancestry that came into this gene-pool would have spread like wildfire..so far with Davids help over at eurogenes we have tracked the linage (to quote him):<br />
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				It looks like you have an Uzbek match there, and so does your uncle.<br />
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In fact, both of you have quite a few Turkic hits in that region compared to other Euros (Uzbek, Turkmen, Chuvash, etc.), and you both pull towards the Altai region based on a PCA of the data. So it looks like this: Eastern China &gt; Hexi Xorridor &gt; Uzbekistan &gt; Volga region &gt; Norway
			
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Via my paternal side i found strong ties to Iceland and the Faeroe isles and from there onto the UK, these i guess are from the middle ages when Norway was at its peak in terms of colonial settling and trading with Europe, so around 12-1300's.<br />
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