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			<title><![CDATA[Jonny's 23andme/Dodecad results]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 22:49:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello :thumbsup: 
 
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<div>Hello :thumbsup:<br />
<br />
I thought I would post my results as that seems to be quite popular here.<br />
Then maybe you can help me solve a little bit of a mystery.<br />
<br />
Paternal Haplogroup: R1b1b2a1a<br />
Maternal Haplogroup: T2b2<br />
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Europe100%<br />
Asia0%<br />
Africa0%<br />
<br />
Northern Europeans - 67.96<br />
Southern Europeans - 67.86<br />
Near Easterners - 67.23<br />
Central Asians - 66.98<br />
Northern Africans - 66.48<br />
North Americans - 66.16<br />
Siberians - 66.12<br />
South Americans - 66.04 <br />
Eastern Asians - 65.8<br />
Oceanians - 65.67<br />
Eastern Africans - 63.48<br />
Southern Africans - 63.34<br />
Central Africans - 63.31<br />
Western Africans - 63.27<br />
<br />
I did quite a bit of research into my family history before signing up to 23andme. My direct male line is from Cornwall via my great great grandfather, and my direct female line is also from Cornwall thanks to my great great grandmother. Almost everyone else in between is from Yorkshire, with a handful from nearby Derbyshire and County Durham. <br />
I have only found one person not born in England, and he was Irish.<br />
<br />
This leaves me a little confused regarding my Dodecad results. As you will see, I am somewhat different from the average British/English person and I just don't understand why. On some tests I come out as being pretty close to Orkadian, and on others I match &quot;Mixed Germanic&quot; quite closely. Being from Yorkshire, I expected to be perhaps a little bit closer to Scandinavia, but I also have a much larger South Western component than your average Englishman. This doesn't seem to be explained by the Cornish influence either.<br />
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EURO7<br />
6.97%  Caucasus            <br />
 48.49%  Northwestern        <br />
 18.90%  Northeastern        <br />
  7.41%  Southeastern        <br />
  0.03%  African             <br />
  0.02%  Far_Asian           <br />
 18.18%  Southwestern <br />
<br />
K7B<br />
 0.75%  South_Asian         <br />
 11.40%  West_Asian          <br />
  0.53%  Siberian            <br />
  0.00%  African             <br />
 14.54%  Southern            <br />
 72.79%  Atlantic_Baltic     <br />
  0.00%  East_Asian  <br />
<br />
DIY Dodecad V3<br />
9.90%  East_European       <br />
 52.74%  West_European       <br />
 28.06%  Mediterranean       <br />
  0.00%  Neo_African         <br />
  8.36%  West_Asian          <br />
  0.56%  South_Asian         <br />
  0.09%  Northeast_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  Southeast_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  East_African        <br />
  0.07%  Southwest_Asian     <br />
  0.22%  Northwest_African   <br />
  0.00%  Palaeo_African   <br />
<br />
k12a<br />
39.48%  Mediterranean       <br />
  0.00%  Far_Asian           <br />
  0.27%  Siberian            <br />
 44.12%  North_European      <br />
  0.07%  South_Asian         <br />
  0.00%  West_African        <br />
  8.55%  Caucasus            <br />
  7.18%  Gedrosia            <br />
  0.00%  East_African        <br />
  0.31%  Southwest_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  Southeast_Asian     <br />
  0.02%  Northwest_African <br />
<br />
k12b<br />
  9.13%  Gedrosia            <br />
  0.16%  Siberian            <br />
  0.14%  Northwest_African   <br />
  0.00%  Southeast_Asian     <br />
 39.38%  Atlantic_Med        <br />
 42.32%  North_European      <br />
  0.48%  South_Asian         <br />
  0.00%  East_African        <br />
  0.15%  Southwest_Asian     <br />
  0.00%  East_Asian          <br />
  8.23%  Caucasus            <br />
  0.00%  Sub_Saharan <br />
<br />
WEAC<br />
 79.13%  Atlantic-Baltic     <br />
 20.43%  Near-East           <br />
  0.41%  Far-East            <br />
  0.03%  Africa  <br />
<br />
World9<br />
0.01%  Amerindian          <br />
  0.00%  East_Asian          <br />
  0.00%  African             <br />
 72.78%  Atlantic_Baltic     <br />
  0.00%  Australasian        <br />
  0.87%  Siberian            <br />
 12.09%  Caucasus_Gedrosia   <br />
 13.40%  Southern            <br />
  0.85%  South_Asian<br />
<br />
Anyway those are my results. Hopefully this will provide something interesting for you all. Any suggestions on what to do next would be great, I have already uploaded to Gedmatch and done the Eurogenes tests etc there, but haven't found a database to compare my results to.</div>


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			<title><![CDATA[Opie's 23&me AND McDonald results!!!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 19:43:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>If anyone remembers, I stated that my father was Mex-Am (Sonora/Alta California), my mother was Euro-Am (swede/Brit/Ger) .  
 
My results are; 83.7%...</description>
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<div>If anyone remembers, I stated that my father was Mex-Am (Sonora/Alta California), my mother was Euro-Am (swede/Brit/Ger) . <br />
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My results are; 83.7% Euro (70.5% is western Euro, )<br />
                        1.7% mideast (Turk/Iran)<br />
                       14.6% Native American<br />
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:thumbsup:<br />
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I am STOKED!!<br />
<br />
<br />
It confirms our genealogy research that we've had going on several yrs.</div>


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			<title>Evon and family 23andme results plus plus..</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:45:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I decided to make a thread like this here where all my family members are in one thread rather then some here and there ect, this is essentially a...</description>
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<div>I decided to make a thread like this here where all my family members are in one thread rather then some here and there ect, this is essentially a copy of the one i made over at apricity, with the exception of the updated AF scores ect.<br />
<br />
<br />
Both my maternal and paternal ancestry is from Western Norway (here painted red):<br />
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<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Vestlandet_in_Norway_%28plus%29.svg/250px-Vestlandet_in_Norway_%28plus%29.svg.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b><br />
First my maternal and paternal lines:</b><br />
<b><br />
Mine:</b><br />
<br />
YDNA: R1b1b2a1a2f*<br />
mtDNA: U5b1b1(T16192C)<br />
<br />
<b><br />
Maternal Uncle:</b><br />
<br />
YDNA: R1b1b2a1a2d3*<br />
mtDNA: U5b1b1(T16192C)<br />
<br />
<b>Maternal Grandmother:</b><br />
<br />
mtDNA: U5b1b1(T16192C)<br />
<br />
<b>Paternal aunt:</b><br />
<br />
mtDNA: H13a1a<br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Ancestry paintings/Chromosome paintings (mcDonalds and Eurogenes K13 in that order):</b><br />
<br />
<b>Me:</b><br />
<img src="http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2585/49210976voza.png" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6456/me2tq.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b>Maternal Uncle:</b><br />
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<img src="http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6263/unc2.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b>Maternal grandmother:</b><br />
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<img src="http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8365/granny2u.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<b>Paternal aunt:</b><br />
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<img src="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1006/aunt2.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="tcattdimgresizer" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Admixture scores (Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad dv3 in that order):<br />
<b><br />
<br />
Mine:</b><br />
<br />
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				North European 62.29%<br />
Mediterranean 26.13%<br />
Caucasus 3.99%<br />
West Central Asian 3.43%<br />
South Asian 1.20%<br />
Southwest Asian 1.20%<br />
East Asian 1.19%<br />
Amerindian 0.39%<br />
West African 0.18%<br />
Northeast African -<br />
North Eurasian -<br />
Pygmy -<br />
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				East_European 8.84%<br />
West_European 67.19%<br />
Mediterranean 19.67%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 3.09%<br />
South_Asian 0.55%<br />
Northeast_Asian -<br />
Southeast_Asian 0.67%<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian -<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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Maternal uncle:</b><br />
<br />
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				North European 59.76%<br />
Mediterranean 26.47%<br />
Caucasus 5.62%<br />
West Central Asian 3.37%<br />
East Asian 1.54%<br />
Southwest Asian 1.18%<br />
South Asian 1.17%<br />
North Eurasian 0.46%<br />
Pygmy 0.39%<br />
Northeast African -<br />
East Siberian -<br />
West African -<br />
Amerindian -
			
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				East_European 12.40%<br />
West_European 58.97%<br />
Mediterranean 21.28%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 5.42%<br />
South_Asian 0.84%<br />
Northeast_Asian -<br />
Southeast_Asian 1.04%<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian -<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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				North European 60.15%<br />
Mediterranean 25.57%<br />
Caucasus 5.41%<br />
West Central Asian 3.96%<br />
Southwest Asian 2.02%<br />
South Asian 1.63%<br />
East Siberian 0.51%<br />
Amerindian 0.25%<br />
Pygmy 0.25%<br />
North Eurasian 0.15%<br />
Northeast African 0.08%<br />
West African -<br />
East Asian -
			
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				East_European 11.95%<br />
West_European 59.08%<br />
Mediterranean 21.23%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 5.35%<br />
South_Asian 1.56%<br />
Northeast_Asian -<br />
Southeast_Asian 0.32%<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian 0.51%<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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				North European 60.30%<br />
Mediterranean 26.51%<br />
Caucasus 6.84%<br />
West Central Asian 2.09%<br />
East Siberian 1.50%<br />
Southwest Asian 1.23%<br />
West African 0.42%<br />
North Eurasian 0.36%<br />
Amerindian 0.33%<br />
East Asian 0.17%<br />
Pygmy 0.15%<br />
South Asian 0.11%<br />
Northeast African -
			
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				East_European 12.30%<br />
West_European 59.11%<br />
Mediterranean 21.14%<br />
Neo_African -<br />
West_Asian 6.44%<br />
South_Asian -<br />
Northeast_Asian 1.00%<br />
Southeast_Asian -<br />
East_African -<br />
Southwest_Asian -<br />
Northwest_African -<br />
Palaeo_African -
			
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Default Ancestry finder results and then 5cM, both at 4gp:<br />
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<b>Mine:</b><br />
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Default:<br />
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				Norway 2.1%<br />
Denmark (Faeroe isle)0.2%<br />
United Kingdom 0.1%<br />
Germany 0.1%<br />
Finland 0.1%
			
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				Norway 4.2%<br />
United Kingdom 1.3%<br />
Sweden 0.7%<br />
Denmark 0.6%<br />
Ireland 0.4%<br />
Germany 0.4%<br />
Italy 0.3%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Netherlands 0.2%<br />
Uruguay 0.1%<br />
India 0.1%<br />
Greece 0.1%<br />
France 0.1%<br />
Finland 0.1%<br />
Estonia 0.1%<br />
Brazil 0.1%<br />
Russia 0.0%<br />
Luxembourg 0.0%
			
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<b>Maternal uncle:</b><br />
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Default:<br />
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				Norway 2.5%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Iceland 0.2%<br />
Finland 0.2%
			
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				Norway 5.1%<br />
United Kingdom 0.8%<br />
Sweden 0.5%<br />
Iceland 0.4%<br />
Finland 0.4%<br />
Denmark 0.4%<br />
Poland 0.3%<br />
Germany 0.3%<br />
Russia 0.2%<br />
Netherlands 0.2%<br />
Uruguay 0.1%<br />
Italy 0.1%<br />
Ireland 0.1%<br />
Estonia 0.1%<br />
Czech Republic 0.1%<br />
Cyprus 0.1%<br />
Bosnia and Herzegovina 0.1%<br />
Belgium 0.1%
			
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				Norway 3.5%<br />
Netherlands 0.3%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Germany 0.1%<br />
Denmark 0.1%
			
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				Norway 5.6%<br />
United Kingdom 1.0%<br />
Netherlands 0.6%<br />
Denmark 0.5%<br />
Sweden 0.4%<br />
Finland 0.4%<br />
Ireland 0.3%<br />
Poland 0.2%<br />
Macedonia 0.2%<br />
Italy 0.2%<br />
Germany 0.2%<br />
Uruguay 0.1%<br />
Spain 0.1%<br />
Serbia 0.1%<br />
Romania 0.1%<br />
Mexico 0.1%<br />
India 0.1%<br />
Czech Republic 0.1%<br />
Bulgaria 0.1%<br />
Belgium 0.1%<br />
Argentina 0.1%<br />
Ukraine 0.0%<br />
Russia 0.0%<br />
Portugal 0.0%
			
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				Norway 4.0%<br />
Germany 0.4%<br />
Netherlands 0.1%<br />
Ireland 0.1%
			
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				Norway 7.2%<br />
United Kingdom 0.8%<br />
Sweden 0.5%<br />
Ireland 0.5%<br />
Germany 0.5%<br />
Denmark 0.4%<br />
Netherlands 0.3%<br />
Spain 0.2%<br />
Russia 0.2%<br />
Estonia 0.2%<br />
Venezuela 0.1%<br />
Ukraine 0.1%<br />
Romania 0.1%<br />
Poland 0.1%<br />
Mexico 0.1%<br />
Greece 0.1%<br />
Finland 0.1%<br />
Cuba 0.1%<br />
Croatia 0.1%<br />
Belgium 0.1%<br />
Austria 0.1%<br />
Italy 0.0%
			
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				Not declared Ashkenazi Jewish 73.4%–73.9%<br />
Declared Ashkenazi Jewish 0.0%–0.5%
			
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Most unexpected/strange top 3 unknown Relative finder cousin:<br />
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
mtDNA: D4e YDNA: R1b1b2
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
mtDNA: P10 YDNA: J2a1b1*
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.12% (9cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1902.<br />
mtDNA: B4c1c1 YDNA: I2b1
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.24% (18cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1902.<br />
J1d1
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.09% (7cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
N9a2a'b
			
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				3rd to 6th Cousin<br />
0.19% (14cM) shared<br />
2 segments<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born between 1772 and 1902.<br />
mtDNA: R1a YDNA: R1a1a*
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.12% (9cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1902.<br />
mtDNA: H7a YDNA: D1*
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
mtDNA: H1c YDNA: O1a1*
			
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				3rd to 5th Cousin<br />
0.51% (38cM) shared<br />
2 segments<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born between 1802 and 1902.<br />
G2a
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
mtDNA: R1a YDNA: G2a5
			
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				3rd to Distant Cousin<br />
0.16% (12cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1902.<br />
mtDNA: K1c2 YDNA: J1e
			
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				4th to Distant Cousin<br />
0.10% (8cM) shared<br />
1 segment<br />
Estimated that your common ancestor was born before 1872.<br />
mtDNA: HV9 YDNA: E1b1b1a2*
			
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So far ive found German ties via my maternal aunt, which is linked to the Hansa league in all likelihood, this i see in a number of ways, i found lots of German cousins at RF and also at default AF levels i see Germany as her second highest % at 0,5%.<br />
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Ive also found Tatar ties to Russia via my maternal side using RF, i see it both in my uncle and grandmother, but strongest in my uncle, this i think is because both my maternal grandfather and grandmother came from approximately the same place and so they were likely related distantly at least and so any Tatar ancestry that came into this gene-pool would have spread like wildfire..so far with Davids help over at eurogenes we have tracked the linage (to quote him):<br />
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				It looks like you have an Uzbek match there, and so does your uncle.<br />
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In fact, both of you have quite a few Turkic hits in that region compared to other Euros (Uzbek, Turkmen, Chuvash, etc.), and you both pull towards the Altai region based on a PCA of the data. So it looks like this: Eastern China &gt; Hexi Xorridor &gt; Uzbekistan &gt; Volga region &gt; Norway
			
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Via my paternal side i found strong ties to Iceland and the Faeroe isles and from there onto the UK, these i guess are from the middle ages when Norway was at its peak in terms of colonial settling and trading with Europe, so around 12-1300's.<br />
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			<title>Phasing</title>
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			<description>Hey i have seen people at various projects like Harappa phase their own data, and i saw stuff about Beagle being able to do this. Has anyone phased...</description>
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<div>Hey i have seen people at various projects like Harappa phase their own data, and i saw stuff about Beagle being able to do this. Has anyone phased there data, whats the best way to do this (i understand for the most part you need both parents, which i have for even my own parents). Any tips would be welcome.</div>


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			<description>Mine: 
11.12% Amerindian 
0.02% East Asian 
5.84% African 
54.73 Atlantic Baltic 
0.00% Australasian 
0.40% Siberian    
9.90% Caucasus Gedrosia  ...</description>
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<div>Mine:<br />
11.12% Amerindian<br />
0.02% East Asian<br />
5.84% African<br />
54.73 Atlantic Baltic<br />
0.00% Australasian<br />
0.40% Siberian   <br />
9.90% Caucasus Gedrosia  <br />
17.43% Southern<br />
0.57% South Asian<br />
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Dads:<br />
1.13%  Amerindian          <br />
0.00%  East_Asian          <br />
0.05%  African             <br />
72.10%  Atlantic_Baltic     <br />
0.00%  Australasian        <br />
0.14%  Siberian            <br />
12.96%  Caucasus_Gedrosia   <br />
12.20%  Southern            <br />
1.42%  South_Asian <br />
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Moms : <br />
Amerindian 19.21%<br />
East Asian 0.00%  <br />
African 13.07%  <br />
Atlantic Baltic 37.89%   <br />
Australasian 0.12%  <br />
Siberian 0.54%   <br />
Caucasus Gedrosia 7.38%  <br />
Southern 21.71%  <br />
South Asian 0.08%<br />
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 Interesting McDonald nor 23andme picked up on the Amerindian for my dad.</div>


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			<description>Anyone going to be participating?  
 
http://dna.ancestry.com/ 
 
 
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<div>Anyone going to be participating? <br />
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<a href="http://dna.ancestry.com/" target="_blank">http://dna.ancestry.com/</a><br />
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				Without getting too technical, the new test analyzes your autosomal DNA, which includes the entire genome—all 23 pairs of chromosomes—as opposed to only looking at the Y-chromosome or Mitochondrial DNA (which makes other types of tests gender specific or otherwise limited).<br />
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Also, the Y-DNA and mtDNA tests look at much smaller amounts of your DNA. For example, YDNA tests only look at about 40 locations whereas AncestryDNA comprehensively looks at the entire genome at over 700,000 locations, all with a simple saliva sample. 40 vs. 700,000? You don’t need to be a scientist to see that this is a huge improvement.
			
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The opening price listed is $99 for ancestry.com subscribers. <br />
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Debating whether or not to bother with this test, I have a compulsion to test with as many platforms as I can as to find a &quot;Golden Mean&quot; so to say.</div>


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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 03:10:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Screw that. I will not be buying a kit.  
 
 
They just hiked it because they knew people will not pay for the year subscription once they get their...</description>
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<div>Screw that. I will not be buying a kit. <br />
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They just hiked it because they knew people will not pay for the year subscription once they get their raw data. <br />
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You guys who got kits for free with promos are lucky.</div>


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			<description><![CDATA[I've spent three sleepless nights trying to extract the SNP data from BAM alignments of Swedish neolithic samples & run it with EIGENSTRAT smartpca....]]></description>
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<div>I've spent three sleepless nights trying to extract the SNP data from BAM alignments of Swedish neolithic samples &amp; run it with EIGENSTRAT smartpca.<br />
And i am pleased to say that i've finally managed  to crack these hardcore (since there wasn't a straightforward conversion between formats, it took some time to call reliable SNPs from the pileup files). Because of exaustion and fatigue felt after the restless night, i wouldn't comment on the PCA plot attched below (i hope that  plot content is self-explanatory). Instead i'll be happy to hear some explanations regarding  the positions of  neolithic farmer (Gok4), hunter-gatherers (Ajv52, Ajv70) and Ötzi on this map <br />
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			<title>FTDNA Population Finder to be refined?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am curious if anyone has heard anything about a refinement of FTDNA's Population Finder? After doing some more research since I initially tested I...]]></description>
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<div>I am curious if anyone has heard anything about a refinement of FTDNA's Population Finder? After doing some more research since I initially tested I am finding my result to be less than par when I compare to other projects and my paper genealogy. <br />
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I recently sent this message over to FTDNA:<br />
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				Greetings, I am curious if the current Population Finder results are going to be refined eventually?<br />
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I ask because my current result does not match well with my genealogy (roughly 75% being from the British Isle's, remaining 24.21875% from Western Germany, 0.78125% from Portugal). <br />
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I also tested with 23andMe Complete edition and sent my raw data from both Population Finder and 23andMe to Dr. McDonald and the Eurogenes Project (I being US83), and I tested with McDonald as French= 0.330, English= 0.670 (a much closer result as someone who is for the most part a British and Western German split)with my overall clustering being with peoples from Kent and Cornwall (would presume that my Western German ancestry is pulling me Southwards in England on the maps). <br />
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With the Eurogenes Project I obtained a similar result (also clustering overall with the peoples from Cornwall and Kent). <br />
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My current result with PF is:<br />
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Europe (Western European): 	<br />
French, Orcadian, Spanish 	<br />
86.80% 	±9.72% <br />
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Europe: Tuscan, Finnish, Romanian, Russian, Sardinian: 	<br />
13.20% 	±9.72%<br />
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I know for fact that I have no recent Russian, Tuscan, Finnish, Romanian or Sardinian ancestry, so I am curious as to how that came to be in the match? If I were to apply the margin of error in favor of the West European matches (French, Orcadian, Spanish) I could see a more believable result of 96.53% W. Euro (French, Orcadian, Spanish). Would it be more wise, when discussing my results with others, to do as such with the margin of error?
			
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			<title>What exactly does 23andme do with your DNA after the analysis?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'd like to know what 23andme does with your DNA after they analyse it. Do they store it for safe-keeping or destroy it afterwords? 
 
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<div>I'd like to know what 23andme does with your DNA after they analyse it. Do they store it for safe-keeping or destroy it afterwords?<br />
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			<title><![CDATA["23andMe Eliminates Subscription Model and Announces New Price"]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Read more about it on CeCe Moore's blog, Your Genetic Genealogist...]]></description>
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<div>Read more about it on CeCe Moore's blog, <a href="http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2012/05/23andme-eliminates-subscription-model.html" target="_blank"><i>Your Genetic Genealogist</i></a>.  <br />
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New price will be $299.  <br />
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Anne Wojcicki, of 23andMe: &quot;23andMe does not have any immediate plans to introduce new premium fee-based features, but we expect to do so in the future.&quot;<br />
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CeCe Moore, responding to a comment on her blog, regarding the bit immediately above: &quot;I knew that some people would feel uneasy about that part. 23andMe tells me they have no current plans to do so, but want to leave the option open for the future.&quot;</div>


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			<description>It looks like I center in the area near the British channels from the area of Dunkirk to Antwerp. 
 
  Global Similiarity: 
   
  Northern Europe:...</description>
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<div>It looks like I center in the area near the British channels from the area of Dunkirk to Antwerp.<br />
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  Global Similiarity:<br />
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  Northern Europe: 67.81 <br />
  Southern Europe: 67.75<br />
  Near Easterners: 67.22<br />
  Central Asians: 66.85<br />
  Northern Africans: 66.50<br />
  Siberians: 65.98<br />
  North Americans: 65.95<br />
  South Americans: 65.83<br />
  Eastern Asians: 65.68<br />
  Oceanians: 65.67<br />
  Eastern Africans: 63.54<br />
  Southern Africans: 63.42<br />
  Central Africans: 63.36<br />
  Western Africans: 63.35<br />
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  Maternal DNA(H Haplogroup)<br />
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   Y-DNA(R1b1b2a1a2f)<br />
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   Cluster Plot<br />
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    Chromosome Bands<br />
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    Neanderthal Percentage<br />
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			<title>Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae Project (MDLP)</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Is this any good for non-euro's? 
 
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<div>Is this any good for non-euro's?<br />
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			<title>23andMe Results For the Last of the 10 Belizeans I have tested</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 20:11:58 GMT</pubDate>
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<font size="4"><b><u>World9 Results:</u></b><br />
18.36%  Amerindian<br />
 0.56%  East_Asian<br />
42.56%  African<br />
24.31%  Atlantic_Baltic<br />
 0.35%  Australasian<br />
 0.73%  Siberian<br />
 1.07%  Caucasus_Gedrosia<br />
10.63%  Southern<br />
 1.41%  South_Asian</font></div>


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			<description>I just got my initial results from 23andMe. My maternal haplogroup is F1a and my paternal haplogroup is E1b1b1a. I am Filipino so the E1b1b1a is...</description>
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<div>I just got my initial results from 23andMe. My maternal haplogroup is F1a and my paternal haplogroup is E1b1b1a. I am Filipino so the E1b1b1a is surprising, anybody know why my maternal haplogroup would be this? They are still calculating my ancestry painting who this is all I know so far. This is all very exciting to me and I can't wait to get my ancestry painting.</div>


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