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    Rushton's book Race, Evolution, and Behavior (1995) uses r/K selection theory to explain how East Asians consistently average high, blacks low, and whites in the middle on characteristics indicative of nurturing behavior on an evolutionary scale. Rushton suggests that East Asians and their descendants average a larger brain size, greater intelligence, more sexual restraint, slower rates of maturation, and greater law abidingness and social organization than do Europeans and their descendants, who average higher scores on these dimensions than Africans and their descendants.

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    Although independent researchers have repeatedly confirmed: (1) The geographical distribution of intelligence, (2), the relationship between intelligence and brain size, (3), the geographical distribution of brain size, and (4), the heritability of intelligence, Diamond, the author of The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee, is like a composite of the three wise monkeys and does not want to see, hear, or say anything about these topics. Therefore, I will briefly summarize them. Readers seeking a more extensive summary can consult The Bell Curve, and for a complete discussion of how brain size and IQ explain much of human behavior and are in turn explained by human evolution, see my Race, Evolution, and Behavior.

    1. The geographical distribution of intelligence. One hundred years of research has established that East Asians and Europeans average higher IQs than do Africans. East Asians, measured in North America and in Pacific Rim countries, typically average IQs in the range of 101 to 111. Caucasoid populations in North America, Europe, and Australasia typically average IQs from 85 to 115 with an overall mean of 100. African populations living south of the Sahara, in North America, in the Caribbean, and in Britain typically have mean IQs from 70 to 90 (see Lynn, 1997, for a comprehensive review).

    Parallel differences are found on relatively culture-free tests such as speed of decision making. All children can perform the task in less than one second, but children with higher IQ scores perform faster than do those with lower scores. Asian children in Hong Kong and Japan average faster than do European children from Britain and Ireland, who in turn average faster than do African children from South Africa. This same pattern of racial differences is also found in California.

    2. The relationship between intelligence and brain size. Diamond neglects to mention any of the remarkable discoveries made during the 1990's "decade of the brain" using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). Such MRI studies, which construct three-dimensional models of the brain in vivo, show a correlation of about 0.40 between brain size and IQ, as replicable a set of results as can be found in the social and behavioral sciences. The first MRI/IQ studies were published in the late 1980's and early 1990's in leading, refereed, mainstream journals like Intelligence (Willerman et al., 1991) and the American Journal of Psychiatry (Andreasen et al., 1993).

    3. The parallel geographical distribution of brain size. Racial differences in brain size have been established recently using wet brain weight at autopsy, volume of empty skulls using filler, and volume estimated from head sizes. Using endocranial volume, for example, Beals et al. (1984, p. 307, Table 5) analyzed about 20,000 skulls from around the world. East Asians averaged 1,415 cm3 (SD = 51), Europeans averaged 1,362 cm3 (SD = 35), and Africans averaged 1,268 cm3 (SD = 85). Using external head measures to calculate cranial capacities, Rushton (1992) analyzed a stratified random sample of 6,325 U.S. Army personnel measured in 1988 for fitting helmets and found that Asian Americans averaged 1,416 cm3 (SD = 104 cm3), European Americans 1,380 cm3 (SD = 92), and African Americans 1,359 cm3 (SD = 95). Moreover, a recent MRI study found that people of African and Caribbean background averaged a smaller brain volume than did those of European background (Harvey, Persaud, Ron, Baker & Murray, 1994).

    Contrary to purely environmental theories, these racial differences in brain size show up early in life. Data from the U.S. National Collaborative Perinatal Project on 35,000 children found that Asian children average a larger head perimeter at birth than do White children who average a larger head perimeter than do Black children, even though, at age seven, Asian children average smaller body size (and Africans larger body size) than do Europeans. Further, head perimeter at seven years correlates with IQ at age seven in all three racial groups (see Rushton & Ankney, 1996, for review).

    4. The heritability of intelligence. As discussed in The Bell Curve and Race, Evolution, and Behavior, the heritability of intelligence is now well established from numerous adoption, twin, and family studies. Particularly noteworthy are the heritabilities of around 80% found in adult twins reared apart (Bouchard, Lykken, McGue, Segal & Tellegen, 1990). Moderate to substantial genetic influence on IQ has also been found in studies of non-Whites, including African Americans and Japanese. Even the most critical of meta-analyses find IQ about 50% heritable (Devlin, Daniels & Roeder, 1997).

    Transracial adoption studies suggest a genetic contribution to the between-group differences. Studies of Korean and Vietnamese children adopted into White American and White Belgian homes show that, although as babies many had been hospitalized for malnutrition, they grew to excel in academic ability with IQs 10 points or more higher than their adoptive national norms (Frydman & Lynn, 1989). By contrast, Weinberg, Scarr and Waldman (1992) found that at age 17, Black and Mixed-Race children adopted into White middle-class families performed at a lower level than the White siblings with whom they had been raised.

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    1. Based from your observations, experience and opinion, which race is the most intelligent?

    2. Do you agree with the article that states that East Asians are the most intelligent ethnic group?

    3. Intelligence is both a function of genetic and environmental influences. What environmental factors are there that can significantly affect intelligence?

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    the white man.

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    Based on all practical evidence, white people. People go on about how intelligent Asians are but the only countries you'd want to live in in Asia are Japan and South Korea, the rest of quite frankly shit. It also is no conincidence that Japan and South Korea have been highly influenced by the US.
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    Jews if it is considered a race...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitefan415 View Post
    Jews if it is considered a race...
    Yes, I've read an article by Richard Lynn that Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent but I don't know how valid that is. Why is that?

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    Africans. They were smart enough to genetically evolve from apes and populate the entire planet. And maybe in the next 50-200 years when most humans have either eaten themselves out of existence, or killed most of the human race with the weaponry they thought were "intelligent"......Africans will still be somewhere living in a mud hut farming.

    Some of the actions, creations and ideas that come from people we deem "Intellegent" have already threatened and in the future may very well wipe life as we know it off the planet.

    I do understand what is so intelligent about this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

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    Yes, I've read an article by Richard Lynn that Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent but I don't know how valid that is. Why is that?
    Probably because of jewish tradition place high value on education and study....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogHouse View Post
    Based on all practical evidence, white people. People go on about how intelligent Asians are but the only countries you'd want to live in in Asia are Japan and South Korea, the rest of quite frankly shit. It also is no conincidence that Japan and South Korea have been highly influenced by the US.
    Japanese and koreans must be drugged if they welcome you. East Asia is not going to be retarded enough to copy western liberal standard of living, thank god immigrant filth stay away themself. Stick your liberal intelligence to your liberal shiithole. Influenced by the US? no, China protected them from the US colonial diseases. Go fvck with Africa, India, Southamerica.

    East Asia is not your place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioke View Post
    Rushton's book Race, Evolution, and Behavior (1995) uses r/K selection theory to explain how East Asians consistently average high, blacks low, and whites in the middle on characteristics indicative of nurturing behavior on an evolutionary scale. Rushton suggests that East Asians and their descendants average a larger brain size, greater intelligence, more sexual restraint, slower rates of maturation, and greater law abidingness and social organization than do Europeans and their descendants, who average higher scores on these dimensions than Africans and their descendants.



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    2. Do you agree with the article that states that East Asians are the most intelligent ethnic group?

    3. Intelligence is both a function of genetic and environmental influences. What environmental factors are there that can significantly affect intelligence?
    1) Define intelligence first. What type of intelligence? As far as IQ test, Asians score higher on visual-spatial, but about the same or slightly less than most Euros on linguistics. Maybe different types of intellectual aggregates form different types of societies.

    Also remember, all Euros are not equally smart, there is varience in Europeans, the most intelligent tend to be in Central Europe running from Italy up to Germany, Poland, Netherlands, etc. THe least intelligent seem to cline from Northwest to Southeast. Serbians had the lowest recorded IQ in Europe, something akin to Turks (something I pointed out before, which caused an uproar on this site. Seems the Serbs like pointing out how "dumb niggers are" but when you show actual studies showing they are not much more intelligent than African Americans, by IQ measure, well...you know...)


    2) Uhm if you are using IQ test to measure, really you are talking about Northeast Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, and some Vietnamese, because they were heavily inbred with Chinese throughout history...that's about it. Southeast Asians have an average IQ of about 90).

    3) That's the problem. Most scientist freely admit intelligence measured by "IQ" which is a pretty specific type of intelligence (that does not measure creativity for example) is about 50-60% genetic. I have never seen a peer reviewed study that estimated more than that. Although you have liars and racist on the net claiming otherwise. They never produce anything.

    However, we do not know all the factors that influence the other 40-50%...we know it is not all influenced by nutrition, stimulation as a child, etc. Although all these things create variance. So we are still in the dark as to what contributes to the environmental factors. I've even read studies that claim vitamin D levels, salt in take as a child, breast feeding...all sorts of things have been shown to add a few points to IQ. From what I've seen the most important is raw caloric intake and salt.

    Also children who weight more at birth generally have higher IQ's as adults. Why? No one is quite sure.


    I am convinced IQ measures something, but what it measure is quite narrow and the correlation between it and life outcome is not nearly as high as people think for individuals, especially after an IQ of 110 or so. Even with an IQ of 100, if the person is very creative and has a good personality they can still do quite well in life (even become quite wealthy although they might be intellectually inferior to the guy who sits in his mother's basement and plays videos games all day between jerk off sections, who has no friends, and most people dislike...) People are quite complicated.

    What I believe is that it is too early to try to figure out who is smarter than who, etc. Because we can't define intelligence well, and we have no clue how it develops genetically or through nurture, it is all deductive guess work.

    Even brain size is not a good indicator, there are people missing half their freaking brain who still have above average IQs (which I have also posted on this site...no one knows why).


    As far as those claiming Euro domination based on what they see in the present.

    Well...no one in Europe invented a writing system and most Europeans were illiterate until relatively recently in history, the last 500 years. There was writing in Europe for awhile though, but before 2000-1500 years ago there was no writing in over half of Europe.

    If you asked a Chinese man from the Song Dynasty, if he had traveled to Europe in the year 1100, I'm pretty sure he, like most Arabs at the time, would not have been impressed with European intelligence, especially in Northern and Eastern Europe. In fact he would have been appalled.

    Judging East Asia by today's standards and not taking a long view of history is fucking stupid. That's the point I'm making. It is more about grandstanding and back patting, than serious discussion or analysis.

    Since I know this thread will descend into "hate niggers", "Asians are nerds who copy technology" and "the white man is the best" I will leave you to it.

    It is quite surprising to me that Ioke, of all people would even post a topic like this on the board, as if she was going to learn anything from this rabble. Please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ioke View Post
    Yes, I've read an article by Richard Lynn that Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent but I don't know how valid that is. Why is that?
    Ashkenazis are an Ethnicity, not a race.

    If ethnicity is a standard for comparative intelligence then the discussion changes a great deal.

    For example, "Germans are smarter than most other Europeans."

    Now watch the fireworks…

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