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    Default Why are Samoans so big?

    Most of the Samoans both men and women I have seen in the Philippines and in Hawaii are tall and big-boned. They are well-known for their body size and the stereotype of Samoans are body builders, body guards, athletes (Sumo wrestlers, Football and Rugby players) and any other profession that requires big physiques with strength to match.

    Do you think it's mostly their diet that significantly affected their body size comparable to other Pacific Islanders? Is there a behavioral and cultural component as to why they eat so much, such as stocking up in case of famine or it's customary to eat during events such as weddings and ceremonies? Do you think it's their perception of beauty, being tall and big-boned? And what IS their diet and the calories they consume in a day?

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    They are asian hunters-gatherers, so their body is made for it and for hard physical work.

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    Well New Zealanders and Australians overall complete athletic dominance over all other peoples is probably connected.

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    Because there were so few of them and lots of food sources.

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    Why are Polynesian so huge? there could be two main reasons for this outcome.

    1) Polynesians are racially mixed asians. Polynesians were once originally a smaller southeast asian group that started out from either the Philippines or Sulawesi island. And then in the middle of their voyages, they got mixed up with much darker and more physically build Melanesian peoples. In summary, 65.8% of the Polynesian Y chromosomes can be traced back to Melanesia, while 34% of Y-DNA and 93.8% of mtDNA can be traced to southeast asia.

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    2) Polynesian evolved to become really big. I know at first glance a large and stocky body build should contradict what one would expect to find in the tropics of the Pacific, rather its more normal to be sporting a much slimier smaller anatomy instead(like the body type u find in southeast asians and negritos). However the conditions of those early primitive canoe voyages in cold ocean environment didn't offer much protection. Therefore biological adaptations may probably have pushed towards a more robust body build, because of the heightened dietary deprivation and cold stress that they faced during their long travels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jibarodepr View Post
    They are asian hunters-gatherers, so their body is made for it and for hard physical work.
    Also jibarodepr they aren't really hunters-gatherers. Polynesian practiced agriculture and also kept Pigs and chicken. Ofcourse they would have still worked hard physically in the past. But todays modern lifestyle and bad food probably is helping in creating the high rates of obesity among them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post

    1) Polynesians are racially mixed asians. Polynesians were once originally a smaller southeast asian group that started out from either the Philippines or Sulawesi island. And then in the middle of their voyages, they got mixed up with much darker and more physically build Melanesian peoples. In summary, 65.8% of the Polynesian Y chromosomes can be traced back to Melanesia, while 34% of Y-DNA and 93.8% of mtDNA can be traced to southeast asia.
    Im not sure if melanesians were much bigger and more muscular build than neighbouring southern mongolids/paleomongolids. (BTW for the maori people, a Taiwanese origin is the most dominant)

    Rather i believe the polynesian build is the cause of sexual selection with a small population, leading to quick changes in the genetic stock. The polynesian/oceanic culture is that of a relative peacefull people, but still paradoxically a dorment warrior culture where physical proweness was always held in high regard and the biggest dominant male could have multiple sexual partners, thus providing for more genetic drift from those males.

    Accompany that with a diet that is higher in fat which could lead to a more different build and metabolism and you have yourself some big boi's

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    Quote Originally Posted by solkiM View Post
    Im not sure if melanesians were much bigger and more muscular build than neighbouring southern mongolids/paleomongolids.
    I doubt if melanesians are much bigger than polynesians, but when comparing them to neighboring Southeast asians ofcourse they are more bigger. Also when I thinking of muscular build melanesian, I was thinking of someone like Hitman Aizue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solkiM View Post
    Rather i believe the polynesian build is the cause of sexual selection with a small population, leading to quick changes in the genetic stock.
    Ofcourse sexual selection in small population could also work in making quick changes for polynesian phenotype. I would say that surviving famines, plus the extreme cold oceans and building muscular build for canoe paddling would all worked together along with strong sexual selection also going on in the background.

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    this is very true alot of them tend to have huge muscles...my college roommate naturally was bigger than The Rock and he barely lift weights
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    What is the genetic makeup of polynesians?
    Are they like a australoid/mongoloid mixed race, becouse many have minor caucasoid features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRANG View Post
    What is the genetic makeup of polynesians?
    Are they like a australoid/mongoloid mixed race, becouse many have minor caucasoid features.
    Check the post of reality check.

    I believe the caucasoid features are caused by convergent evolution.

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