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    White Latin Americans are the white population of Latin America. They are the descendants of 15th–to–19th century colonial-era settlers and of post-independence immigrants. Original settlers were mostly Spanish and Portuguese, but post-independence immigrants were more diverse, among them many Italian immigrants. Other large sources of immigrants were Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Poland, Lebanon and others. Smaller numbers came from various other European and Middle Eastern countries. The immigrants came principally in the late decades of the nineteenth and early decades of the twentieth centuries. Some twelve million people arrived in South America alone in this period, although many returned or re-migrated to other countries, including the United States and Canada. The largest group in the region, White Latin Americans number approximately 204 million, or 35.63% of a total population of 572.7 million.








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    I think there are some nonwhites on these pics. Either that or the concept of white is very broad.

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    White usually means light skinned in Latin America regardless of how much indian or african ancestry you have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delevestere View Post
    White usually means light skinned in Latin America regardless of how much indian or african ancestry you have
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    Another study (covering all regions of Brazil in a sample of 200 people of different colors) found out that the average Brazilian would be about 80% European in all regions except in the South where they would be, on average, about 90% European (regardless of census classification).

    The ancestry is quite irrelevant for racial classifications in Brazil. A genetic resource conducted by UFMG on self-identified White Brazilians found that, on the paternal side, 2.5% of them had an African lineage and none of them revealed Amerindian ancestry. On the maternal side, 33% had an Amerindian lineage and 28% African. This finding reflected the centuries of miscegenation between Portuguese males and African or Amerindian females, given that few female Portuguese immigrants arrived during Brazil’s colonization. A survey in Rio de Janeiro also concluded that “racial-purity” is not important for a person to be classified as White in Brazil. The survey asked respondents if they had any ancestors who were European, African or Amerindian. As much as 52% of the Whites from Rio reported they have some non-European ancestry, with 38% reporting to have some Black African ancestry (25% of Whites reported to be of African and European ancestry, while another 15% reported to be of African, Amerindian and European ancestry). Moreover, 14% of the Whites reported to be of Amerindian and European ancestry. In consequence, only 48% of the Whites from Rio claimed to be of strictly European ancestry. Then in Brazil to have African or Amerindian ancestry and identify as White is not inconsistence, neither is it a problem for them to admit to having non-White ancestors (even though the “whitening ideology” may lead them to downplay these ancestors and the stigma associated with being Indian or African may have prevented more people from reporting non-White ancestors). The survey also found that only 25% of Black Brazilians claimed strictly African ancestry, with a larger segment of both Blacks and Browns, 35% and 36% respectively, claiming to be of African, Amerindian and European ancestries.

    The conception of Whiteness in Brazil is based on the skin color of a person, which contrasts with the conception of race and ancestry, as used in the United States. According to the 1991 Census, 55% of the children whose mother was White and father was Brown were classified as Whites. Another 6% of children born to both Brown parents were classified as Whites and 2% of children born to a Black-Black couple were also identified as Whites. This analysis shows that the ancestry of a person is quite insignificant to racially classify people in Brazil.
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    There are not Whites in Latin America. At least, the concept on an isolated superior White Race with a Manifest Destiny under the arm is allien to the region.

    We Latin Americans don't play gringo games with race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguin View Post
    There are not Whites in Latin America. At least, the concept on an isolated superior White Race with a Manifest Destiny under the arm is allien to the region.

    We Latin Americans don't play gringo games with race.

    white race is as allien from latin America as mestizo . They come from the same mixture process . This is similar to the afrikaans people . Phenotipically white latinamericans that been living in America since XVIIth century , have some amerindian admixture , and have the same surnames that mestizo . They all come from Castilian colonization .

    You can say that if you have 5-10 % of amerindian blood , you arent white , but nobody is genetically pure in the world .

    Finally , EEUU racial categories are stupids ( mainly latino or hispanic race category ) , but latinamerica is clearly more racist than EEUU . In EEUU you can see blacks or mexicans in TV everytime . In Latinamerica all the actors , presenters , music stars , etc are white or castizo . There is the case of a castiza playing the role of amerindian in a mexican telenovela . Mestizo only play servant roles , and amerindian people directly dont exist .

    Ritch people and high class people are predominantly european , then the whiter superiority rule in Latinamerica is even heavier than in EEUU .

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    Quote Originally Posted by perikolez View Post
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    Finally , EEUU racial categories are stupids ( mainly latino or hispanic race category ) , but latinamerica is clearly more racist than EEUU . In EEUU you can see blacks or mexicans in TV everytime . In Latinamerica all the actors , presenters , music stars , etc are white or castizo . There is the case of a castiza playing the role of amerindian in a mexican telenovela . Mestizo only play servant roles , and amerindian people directly dont exist .

    Ritch people and high class people are predominantly european , then the whiter superiority rule in Latinamerica is even heavier than in EEUU .
    All the people that looks white in Mexican TV are mestizos.
    In any case, those kind of "whites" are just average people in a country like mine.

    What you call mestizo is what we usually call Indian.

    Anyways. Everybody knows its place in Latin America. That's the difference.

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    The people that say people in Mexican movies or media are all white are people brainwashed by Americans who want to throw shit at us!!! You'd be damn crazy if you think Kuno Becker or Diego Luna are white ROFL. If you consider them white you'd have to at least consider 40% of the Mexican population as "white", whatever that might mean to you. Also, only some crappy soap operas which no one here watches are full of blond people. However if you take a look at better Mexican movies or series, you'll notice how most people look mestizo in varying degrees. Haven't you heard about Cantinflas? or Pedro Infante? Or Mario Almada who came from poor background? Or even Thalia?

    Besides, I'm almost sure 9 out of 10 people don't even know what a "castizo" (a term I deeply dislike, it just disturbs me, it's just way more fucking offensive than quadroon for example), mestizo or criollo means. The only difference they set appart is betwen "Mexicano" (Spanish speaking, spanish names, culture) and "Indio" (unassimilated, unable to speak spanish, etc.)

    Anyway, besides all that crap. Why would you want full-Amerindian tribe people in TV? In the life of most Mexicans interaction with tribal Amerindians is very marginal, most of them don't even speak Spanish and aren't fully assimilated into western life, so there's basically no reason to include them in any modern era TV serie or anything like that.
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