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Thread: Origin of the Ancient Assyrians [split] //mod

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    SYRIAC and other Aramaic dialects* (source: The Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon)

    nbwḥw, nbwḥwtʾ (nāḇōḥū, nāḇōḥūṯā) n.f. ability to bark

    1 ability to bark Syr.
    2 canine reason ? Syr.

    nbḥ vb. to bark
    G
    1 to bark JLAtg, Gal, Syr, JBA, LJLA. --(a) metaph.: to speak roughly Syr.

    D
    1 to make a loud sound JBA.

    C
    1 to cause to bark Syr.
    2 ܒ_: to inflame Syr.

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    Gal Galilean
    JBA Jewish Babylonian
    JLAtg Jewish Literary Aramaic, Targumic
    LJLA Late Jewish Literary Aramaic
    Syr Syriac
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    With a grain of salt, please.


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    Saint Mari was converted by Saint Addai. He is said to have had Mar Aggai as his spiritual director. He is also believed to have done missionary work around Nineveh, Nisibis, and along the Euphrates, and is said to have been one of the great apostles to Syria and Persia. He and Addai are credited with the Divine Liturgy of Addai and Mari. Despite the fact that there is little if any concrete information on Mari, he is still venerated as a saint by the Assyrian Church of the East, the Chaldean Catholic Church, and the Syro Malabar Catholic Church. Apocryphal Acts of Mar Mari are connected with him.

    Mar Mari - A window into the world of Apostolic succession (source: Assyrian Church of the East Women)

    To the average member of the Assyrian Church of the East, the mention of Mar Mari would more than likely make us think about Mar Addai – one of Christ’s seventy two disciples. This is because together, Mar Addai and Mar Mari are infamously known and will always be remembered for composing The Church of the East liturgy in the Syriac language for the first Church they founded in Edessa. This liturgy has been translated to various languages through the years; such as English, vernacular Syriac and Arabic and is used to this day in our universal Church.

    But there is more to Mar Mari than the simple reputation he has earned as being Mar Addai’s disciple and associate worker in the Edessan Church. When we delve into the history of Mar Mari as we read from the Acts of Mar Mari the Apostle, we start to truly unveil the magnitude of this holy man’s character and personality as portrayed through his mighty faith and humble works in the name of the Lord Jesus.

    ....

    Mar Mari and his companions travelled throughout the cities of Mesopotamia performing miracles in the name of the Lord Jesus and gaining the faith of all the pagan inhabitants he had preached to by performing miracles of healing to many of the cities kings and nobles while also exposing the worthless pagan gods they worshipped through the power and light of the One true God.

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    The natives of Seleucia proved to be the most challenging and obstinate of Pagans for Mar Mari to convert. But after a whole year of perseverance and patience, he converted the king and natives of the city of Seleucia and through performing further miracles also converted the city of Ctesiphon across the river. He had the pagan temples demolished and Churches built in their place. The famous temple of the pagan goddess Ishtar that sat on the banks of the Tigris River was demolished and the famous Patriarchal Church of Kokhe was built in that area.

    ....

    Papa and his colleagues answered and said to him: “Christ who sent you to us is witness: you have taught us the true faith in which we live, and as we heard from you thus we will do!” After these events the blessed Mar Mari left this world, departing to the eternal life. His holy body was deposited and buried in the church, which he himself built and completed in Dur-Qunni, before the sanctuary, and inside which his commemoration is perpetuated to the end, following the order of Papa, the heir of his see who also continued the faithful work of the honourable and distinguished Mar Mari established priests and leaders in the whole land of the East. 4

    Let us faithful of the Assyrian Church of the East in the 21st Century also take heed of the blessed Mar Mari’s words and be encouraged by his unmoving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. The faithful works of this saint should be esteemed, remembered and praised for converting so many pagans to the Christian faith through the strength and aide of the Lord. Let us look to Mar Mari’s disease-healing, demon-exorcizing, fire-extinguishing faith and aim to live with the same zealous and passionate trust in the Lord to conquer our everyday obstacles as we continuously grow in our faith for the glory of God.

    Although he may very well have existed, if he did not, is there a word from Akkadian that may provide a clue as to why "Mar Mari?"

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    Matthew 16:15-18.

    15 He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am?
    16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
    17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
    18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

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    Our bishops are given the title, "Mar," when they are consecrated. It is said to mean, "Lord" and/or "Master." It is similar to our word for owner of property or business, "mara." Which in turn is identical to our word for "spade." The word for spade is from Sumerian, via Akkadian (refer to Khan and Krotkoff). Although our bishops receive the title "Mar," they are addressed as "abuna." Khan lists abuna as a loan from Arabic.

    Source: Melkite Greek Catholic Church Information Center

    Archpriests - Abounas / Abunas - Reverend Fathers

    An archpriest is the spiritual descendant/successor of the Holy Apostles. The Holy Apostles were appointed by Holy God the Son within the Holy Trinity / Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ to be His representatives on earth. Then, an archpriest is the representative of Holy God the Son within the Holy Trinity / Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ on earth.
    Any Arabic-speaking folks wish to chime in, please do so. I know less about Arabic than I do my own language. Which is to say, not much at all.


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    AKKADIAN - Searching for a possible meaning of "abuna," if it did not originally mean "our father."
















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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanist View Post
    Not the same, of course, but still evidence of public recitations of old Mesopotamian creation myths.

    Seleucid Babylon (312 BC–63 BC)

    The Babylonian Akitu Festival: Rectifying the King or Renewing the Cosmos?
    Benjamin Sommer
    From The Journal of the Ancient Near Eastern Society 27 (2000):81-95
    Hey, look who it is. Emesh. I am sure there is still a less than spectacular explanation (i.e. loan word from a neighboring foreign tongue).

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    Emesh and Enten, Cain and Abel

    Many scholars have pointed to the similarities between the Sumerian tale of Emesh and Enten and the Biblical tale of Cain and Abel.[7][8] Samuel Noah Kramer called the Emesh and Enten tale "the closest extant Sumerian parallel to the Biblical Cain and Abel story".[9] The Emesh and Enten tale is found on clay tablets from the 3rd millennium BCE[10] while the oldest source of the Hebrew Bible is thought to have been written during the 6th century BCE.[11]

    In the Sumerian tale, the god Enlil has sex with the Earth, which gives birth to two boys named Emesh and Enten. Emesh is a personification of summer and Enten a personification of winter. Each brother brings an offering to Enlil, but Enten becomes angry with Emesh and the two begin an argument.[12] In Genesis, Adam has sex with Eve, who gives birth to two boys named Cain and Abel. Cain worked the soil and Abel kept flocks. Each brother brings an offering to Yahweh. Yahweh looks favorably on Abel's offering but not on Cain's, so Cain becomes angry.[Genesis 4:1-5]

    At this point, however, the similarities end. In the Sumerian tale, Enlil intervenes and declares Enten the winner of the debate. Emesh accepts Enlil's judgment and the brothers reconcile.[12] In Genesis, Cain murders his brother Abel.[Genesis 4:8]

    The "Emesh" (unlikely) link aside, one thing I found interesting about the bits from Wikipedia is what is stated regarding the Hebrew Bible, and a 6th century BCE vintage. I had, for whatever reason, always believed it to be a few centuries older. I had not heard of "Panbabylonism" before, although I was aware that there were those who suggested that there existed ties between Mesopotamian myths, and the later Abrahamic faiths. Although (and it is no small matter) I remain ignorant regarding most of the issues involved, my gut tells me, based on the extremely small piece I have been exposed to, that some aspects of "Panbabylonism" are not completely far-fetched.
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    Actually, no need for the above. Akkadian for "abu."








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    SURETH/MANDAIC/LATE JEWISH LITERARY ARAMAIC (source: Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon)

    ʾšt, ʾštʾ (ˀeššaṯ, ˀeštā) n.f. foundation, base

    1 base, foundation Syr, Man, LJLA.
    2 pl.: buttocks Syr, Man.
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    For Sureth, one can include bottom of containers, pots, etc. For example, "eshtit qusarta," which means, "bottom of the pot."
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    THE ACTS OF SHARBIL AND BABAI (Feast Day Jan. 29)

    translated from the Syriac by Rev. B. P. Pratten, 1871

    The date given in the first sentence is our a.d. 112. But the Greek era commences 311 or 312 b.c., and therefore a.g. 416 would answer to a.d. 105, so there appears to be some error in the date. Moreover, the king reigning in the fifteenth year of Trajan was not Abgar VII, but Maanu Bar Ajazath, the seventh king of Edessa after Abgar I "the Black".

    The anecdote at the end beginning "This Barsamya ... " is evidently a later addition by a person unacquainted with chronology: Fabianus was not made bishop of Rome till the reign of Maximinus Thrax, about the year 236. The mention of Fabianus probably arose from the fact of his having instituted notaries for the express purpose of searching for and collecting the Acts of Martyrs.

    Words in angled brackets have been supplied by the translator.


    Acts of Sharbil, Who Was a Priest of Idols, and Was Converted to the Confession of Christianity in Christ

    In the fifteenth year of the Autocrator Trajan Cæsar, and in the third year of King Abgar the Seventh, which is the year 416 of the kingdom of Alexander king of the Greeks, and in the priesthood of Sharbil and Barsamya, Trajan Cæsar commanded the governors of the countries under his dominion that sacrifices and libations should be increased in all the cities of their administration, and that those who did not sacrifice should be seized and delivered over to stripes, and to combs, and to bitter inflictions of all tortures, and should afterwards receive the punishment of the sword.

    Now, when the command arrived at the town of Edessa of the Parthians, there was a great festival, on the eighth of Nisan, on the third day of the week: the whole city was gathered together by the great altar which was in the middle of the town, opposite the Record office, all the gods having been brought together, and decorated, and sitting in honour, both Nebu and Bel together with their fellows. And all the priests were offering incense of spices and libations [before the god Zeus]. and an odour of sweetness was diffusing itself around, and sheep and oxen were being slaughtered, and the sound of the harp and the drum was heard in the whole town. And Sharbil was chief and ruler of all the priests; and he was honoured above all his fellows, and was clad in splendid and magnificent vestments; and a headband embossed with figures of gold was set upon his head; and at the bidding of his word everything that he ordered was done. And Abgar the king, son of the gods, was standing at the head of the people. And they obeyed Sharbil, because he drew nearer to all the gods than any of his fellows, and as being the one who according to that which he had heard from the gods returned an answer to every man.

    Drawing of a statue of Nebo in the British Museum (1875).




    Ephrem, on Nebo:



    Cults and Beliefs at Edessa (1980)
    H. J. W. Drijvers


    The significance of Nebo, to the last great Assyrian king, Ashurbanipal, and Assyrians in general:

    We have already set forth the reasons for the popularity of the Nabu cult in Assyria. Suffice it to recall that the peculiar character of the god as the patron of wisdom placed him beyond the reach of any jealousy on the part of the other members of the pantheon. So Ramman-nirari III. extols Nabu as the protector of the arts, the all-wise who guides the stylus of the scribe, and the possessor of wisdom in general. He is not merely the originator of writing, but the source of all wisdom, and for this reason he is spoken of as the son of Ea. Attributes of mere brutal force are rarely assigned to Nabu, but as befits a god of wisdom, mercy, nobility, and majesty constitute his chief attractions. By virtue of his wisdom, Sargon calls him 'the clear seer who guides all the gods,' and when the last king of Assyria—Saracus, as the Greek writers called him—invokes Nabu as the 'leader of forces,' he appears to have in mind the heavenly troops rather than earthly armies. Such patrons of learning as Sargon and Ashurbanabal were naturally fond of parading their devotion to Nabu. The former significantly calls him the 'writer of everything,' and as for Ashurbanabal, almost every tablet in the great literary collection that he made at Nineveh closes with a solemn invocation to Nabu and his consort Tashmitum, to whom he offers thanks for having opened his ears to receive wisdom, and who persuaded him to make the vast literary treasures of the past accessible to his subjects.
    The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (1898)
    Morris Jastrow, Jr.
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    SURETH/IMPERIAL ARAMAIC/LATE JEWISH LITERARY ARAMAIC (source: Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon)

    ṣbʿ, ṣbʿʾ (ṣḇaˁ, ṣeḇˁā) n.f. #3 finger

    1 finger OfA, OfA, Syr, LJLA.
    2 as a measurement OfA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanist View Post
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    This word is also used to express a feeling of disgust/dissatisfaction toward another person. It may also mean "diseased." I am not sure.

    Adding to SURETH:


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    I may be mistaken, but I believe this is our word for the bread received during the Eucharist (Qurbana).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanist View Post
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    SURETH

    I may be mistaken, but I believe this is our word for the bread received during the Eucharist (Qurbana).

    Quote Originally Posted by Humanist View Post
    I should have quoted the above post when discussing the Sureth terms for the male specific organ. As well as discussion of the terms related to virginity, Ishtar, etc.

    I am not sure if the "h" is an "ḥ." If it is the latter, in my very poor Mesopotamian Aramaic, perhaps it would translate as follows: "The dough has cooled (piḥla?), its life (ḥiya?) has fallen (pila?)."

    Of course, that is only (an attempt at a) literal translation by an unqualified (illiterate) speaker of the language. And, much, I assume, would be lost in translation, as far as the meaning of the expression goes.

    Refer to the Akkadian entry, at top, and the bit in bold, immediately above.

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