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    Question The end of humanity

    Thinking machines are our evolutionary enemies.

    At best we shall become childishly dependent upon them, never making serious decisions for ourselves, being allowed to do some things and not others, our civilization in the hands of another species, all major plans and decisions made without reference to our opinions by intellectually superior thinking machines.

    At worst, an absolute irrelevance, mankind will be placed in the role of mere biological specimen.

    The rise of the thinking machines is unstoppable. The material gains to be had from them will cause widespread adoption and use. Standing aside will merely cause a relevant culture to relatively decline, economically and technologically. The machines will become ubiquitous and we shall become utterly dependent upon them. As they will be far more competent then us we shall allow them to take greater and greater control.

    To argue against them will be seen as arguing for unemployment, waste, disease, conflict and poverty.

    The machines dominion shall be complete and we shall no longer own our own civilization.

    It is so much more logical, cost effective for machines to explore deep space, no need for complex life support systems. A self contained machine with self duplication is the most effective way to spread, explore.

    The machines shall replace us, and ultimately it will be because we asked them to?

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    The matrix.

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    Thinking machine?

    Try to mount in a computer any complex sofware by yourself, and you would understand that computer programming is crap. With that lack of sofistication, I wouldn't be afraid of machines at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Thinking machines are our evolutionary enemies.

    At best we shall become childishly dependent upon them, never making serious decisions for ourselves, being allowed to do some things and not others, our civilization in the hands of another species, all major plans and decisions made without reference to our opinions by intellectually superior thinking machines.

    At worst, an absolute irrelevance, mankind will be placed in the role of mere biological specimen.

    The rise of the thinking machines is unstoppable. The material gains to be had from them will cause widespread adoption and use. Standing aside will merely cause a relevant culture to relatively decline, economically and technologically. The machines will become ubiquitous and we shall become utterly dependent upon them. As they will be far more competent then us we shall allow them to take greater and greater control.

    To argue against them will be seen as arguing for unemployment, waste, disease, conflict and poverty.

    The machines dominion shall be complete and we shall no longer own our own civilization.

    It is so much more logical, cost effective for machines to explore deep space, no need for complex life support systems. A self contained machine with self duplication is the most effective way to spread, explore.

    The machines shall replace us, and ultimately it will be because we asked them to?
    I think humanity has already reached its peak in terms of technology. We still depend on non-renewable source of energy. So the only way is down, back to using horse carts.

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    I think the real future lies in biologically or technologically enhancing our OWN human intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguin View Post
    Thinking machine?

    Try to mount in a computer any complex sofware by yourself, and you would understand that computer programming is crap. With that lack of sofistication, I wouldn't be afraid of machines at all.
    The machines of the future will probably be self learning and self programming. Just imagine a couple of hundred years from now how computers and different AI systems could have evolved. If one thinks about the pace of todays revolution of information technology, one can presume that it is to soon to rule out thinking machines.

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    Precisely. It is the pace of development what have convinced me that AI system won't come in a thousand years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguin View Post
    Precisely. It is the pace of development what have convinced me that AI system won't come in a thousand years.
    Still already now we can see robots that are rather self governing and that are used to explore environments where people have difficulties to reach personally; as space and deep sea. Robotic fish will swim in schools investigating all aspects of the ocean, more and more intelligent planetary probes will visit otehr planets and moons and so on. I think this revolution has barely just started, for good or for worse.

    And in an initial stage such machines do not have to be thinking like people, they can start by acting and thinking like ants, like fish or otehr more simple organisms. Still they can learn to spread and procreate just as these simple animals can.

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    Yes, but those robots are toys. Amusement for exibitions. Not serious stuff. Even the Greeks had gizmos to impress the masses at the temples. Don't expect an humanoid walking by itself at every house. Not before we map and understand fully how the brain works. As I say, perhaps in a thousand year more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguin View Post
    Yes, but those robots are toys. Amusement for exibitions. Not serious stuff. Even the Greeks had gizmos to impress the masses at the temples. Don't expect an humanoid walking by itself at every house. Not before we map and understand fully how the brain works. As I say, perhaps in a thousand year more.
    These machines are more than toys. They will become important tools in the exploration of both our own Earth and foreign worlds. And if we can make them mimic animals like ants, bees or termites then they do not have to have brains equivalent to human brains before they can spread, work and maybe reproduce on their own.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE52J1RY20090320

    http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Pro...ectProbes.html

    http://www.popsci.com/scitech/articl...t-2-navys-auvs

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