My bad experience with Latin America

[Cinderella]

And Cuba's poverty is directly related to the Castro brothers' form of government.

I am anticommunist but I don't agree with you: Cuba was always been poor, before Castro. Read the history of that island in XXth century and you'll see it's been full of dictators like Machado, Batista...

Anyway, the problem is not Cuba or one particular country: the problem is ALL countries since Mexico until Patagonia.

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Haha I don't know, Cinderella, if you're including Chile in this opinion that you've got! So I'll let you clarify before giving mine!

I will proud of listen to your opinion.

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Then your impressions are wrong. And debt really ? Germany has even more debt than Spain. And per-capita means crap. Our Development Index is higher than that of United Kingdom, Austria or Luxembourg.

Please, don't compare Spain with Germany or United Kingdom because it seems a joke.

And this thread is about Latin America and their economical (and social-political) problems.

[Belisarius]

I agree with Acquisitorz. Being poor is really state of mind and willpower

[Cinderella]

I agree with Acquisitorz. Being poor is really state of mind and willpower

I agree too. And we have historical examples of people who were born poor but will became rich because of willpower: Benjamin Franklin or Marie Curie.

[Sakarisker]

These South American countries (Ecuador, Bolivia, Venezuela) were very rich when they belonged to Spain, was when they became independent and became in fact USA protectorates when impoverished. And now, with marxist-indigenist governments that their citizens have chosen, and culture of violence, are also condemned to poverty. In Spain, many of them are used to live on subsidies from state and exporting violence and gangs of their own countries.

On the other hand, say that Spain was a country without inventiveness is idiotic. The telescope, digital calculator, a space suit, the submarine, gyroplane, the disposable syringe, the remote control, the modern train, the musket, the water engine ... were invented by spanish.

[Pao]

Pao, about the drug wars and so on: why don't these things happen in USA?

Lol you're going to get me started on the whole reason behind my career-choice
That's a good question. Not only in Mexico, but all of Latin-America. A good documentary you should check out is War on Democracy.

Anyways, sad thing is the drug war IS shared responsibility with USA. They consume, we produce. They provided the cartels with guns, they trained the cartels, they benefit in money, some of the world's largest drug consumers, 40 million cocaine consumers, major consumers of meth, marijuana. Mexico is a large producer but veeeery small consumer. (3.7 million had even tried a drug in their lifetime by 2007)

This is a HUGE problem especially the region where I'm from. USA gets Miami and Las Vegas paid for while my family gets shootings with the all-American AK47s.

Other than personal benefit, that is what I'm still trying to find out. Out of both governments and both pueblos (people), I get Mexican citizens are the least in concern of those benefiting, but I still don't know why.

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http://youtu.be/J1zZNbqi53o

[Belisarius]

I agree too. And we have historical examples of people who were born poor but will became rich because of willpower: Benjamin Franklin or Marie Curie.

But there is one thing I completely overlook, and that's when mafia gets incorporated into government. That's exactly what destroyed my country.

[Sakarisker]

I am anticommunist but I don't agree with you: Cuba was always been poor, before Castro. Read the history of that island in XXth century and you'll see it's been full of dictators like Machado, Batista...

All these dictators, portrayed very well in the work of Valle-Inclan "Tirano Bandera"s, were placed by the US.

[AlexDelarge]

Ah, here is the jew trolling southern europeans again.

[amerinese]

As I said, there was a "spanish train" in project between those two cities but it did not build it because it was very expensive.

The cheapest and faster way of travelling is by plane.

Ironically, those railways are actually to hide the real problem of Spain: its very, very poor productivity.

Actually the cheapest way between LA and SF is by car if you own one, or bus if you don't. It's a one day trip. The flight is very short but more expensive, and time spent with airport commute and security etc. add a lot of time to the flight, much more than the actual flight.

In the USA we also have some local and regional boondoggle mass transit project which are corrupt and cost inefficient.

[Cinderella]

Lol you're going to get me started on the whole reason behind my career-choice
That's a good question. Not only in Mexico, but all of Latin-America. A good documentary you should check out is War on Democracy.

Anyways, sad thing is the drug war IS shared responsibility with USA. They consume, we produce. They provided the cartels with guns, they trained the cartels, they benefit in money, some of the world's largest drug consumers, 40 million cocaine consumers, major consumers of meth, marijuana. Mexico is a large producer but veeeery small consumer. (3.7 million had even tried a drug in their lifetime by 2007)

This is a HUGE problem especially the region where I'm from. USA gets Miami and Las Vegas paid for while my family gets shootings with the all-American AK47s.

Other than personal benefit, that is what I'm still trying to find out. Out of both governments and both pueblos (people), I get Mexican citizens are the least in concern of those benefiting, but I still don't know why.

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http://youtu.be/J1zZNbqi53o

Thanks for your explanation.

I find it strange because specially in USA there are hard anti-drugs laws. For example, if Police find marijuana hidden in your pocket, you could go to jail for 10 years.