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    Default DNA tribes SNP analysis..

    i got my uncles data today. i expected more then i got, but some of it was intriguing to say the least.

    here is the world admixture regions (nothing surprising here):



    here is the regional admixture (now this is more interesting):




    and finally top populations (what i would expect with the lack of North european samples):




    The most surprising for me was the link to Manchuria and Mongolia in the regional admixture, i was expecting east and south east Asian to light up as they have in Dodecad and eurogenes, this could confirm Tatar ancestry with roots in Manchuria/Mongolia, but i should ask Polako to help me look into this? so as to confirm the results further before i go bananas over it...

    the results only took two days to receive, i dont know if i should test my grandmother too or not yet...the speacial offer is on for a few more days..
    Last edited by Aino; 2011-11-02 at 17:40. Reason: Removed pics as requested //mod
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    the latest Eurogenes and Dodecad numbers to compare:

    Eurogenes:

    Maternal Uncle (NO4):

    North + East European: 50%
    Southwest + West European: 45,8%
    South Asian: 1,45%
    West Asian: 1,33%
    Southeast Asian: 1,31%

    Dodecad:

    0.00% Sub_Saharan
    6.99% West_Asian
    80.91% Atlantic_Baltic
    1.03% East_Asian
    7.89% Southern
    2.78% South_Asian
    0.40% Siberian
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    I always get North Asian (Nganassan and Dolgan), Altaic (Evenk and Yakut), Eastern Siberian (Chukchi and Koryak), East Asian (Japanese and North Chinese), and Southeast Asian (South Chinese and Dai) clusters.

    Their Mongolian seems to correspond to my Altaic, and their Manchurian to my East Asian.

    It's difficult to say what they've found without being able to look at the data they used. Like, the actual sheet put into ADMIXTURE.

    Also, I wonder how many markers they ran, because it appears that they used the Xing data, plus all the other usual samples. That would mean they used much less than 100K, because of overlap issues. If true, then that's not a lot of markers for so many clusters.

    That might also explain the very strange similarity sheet, which puts Spain above Hungary, for example, which is something I've never seen for a Norwegian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polako View Post
    I always get North Asian (Nganassan and Dolgan), Altaic (Evenk and Yakut), Eastern Siberian (Chukchi and Koryak), East Asian (Japanese and North Chinese), and Southeast Asian (South Chinese and Dai) clusters.

    Their Mongolian seems to correspond to my Altaic, and their Manchurian to my East Asian.

    It's difficult to say what they've found without being able to look at the data they used. Like, the actual sheet put into ADMIXTURE.

    Also, I wonder how many markers they ran, because it appears that they used the Xing data, plus all the other usual samples. That would mean they used much less than 100K, because of overlap issues. If true, then that's not a lot of markers for so many clusters.

    That might explain the very strange similarity sheet, which puts Spain above Hungary, for example, which is something I've never seen for a Norwegian.
    http://www.dnatribes.com/snp.html

    its the main page to the SNP deal...

    i will e-mail them about what data they use..
    I once tried thinking for an entire day, but I found it less valuable than one moment of study. I once tried standing up on my toes to see far out in the distance, but I found that I could see much farther by climbing to a high place.
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    Ask them how they managed to put your uncle closer to Spain than to Hungary in that similarity sheet. That looks off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polako View Post
    Ask them how they managed to put your uncle closer to Spain than to Hungary in that similarity sheet. That looks off.
    i asked if they used Xing and also about the Spain thing, plus i will ask about east Asian % and so on..

    here is what it says in the report:

    DNA Tribes® SNP analysis identifies your geographical “deep ancestry” using more than 29,000
    autosomal SNPs (Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms). The number of SNPs used in your analysis can vary
    depending on the data available from your prior SNP microarray testing
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    They do use Xing, cos I can see the samples listed. That's why they're only running "more than" 29,000 SNPs. In other words, much less than 100,000.

    And that's probably why the similarity sheet looks a bit odd.

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    I haven't touched DNA tribes since I came out Berber and Canary Islander on one of their older tests.

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    some modified pictures:



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    ---------- Post added 2011-11-02 at 17:46 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Polako View Post
    They do use Xing, cos I can see the samples listed. That's why they're only running "more than" 29,000 SNPs. In other words, much less than 100,000.

    And that's probably why the similarity sheet looks a bit odd.
    ah, so their runs are less reliable then your admixture runs in Eurogenes then..

    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    I haven't touched DNA tribes since I came out Berber and Canary Islander on one of their older tests.
    yeah, i would not do a SRT with them..this is based on SNP.. but i think it was not that helpful...
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    ive looked some more into it, it seems that almost all the regional % with the exception of minor African admixture is related in part to Central Asia and Siberia/East Asia..as the labels are misleading..the Indus valley should be called central Asian, the south Asian should be called central and sub continental Asian.

    so now i just wait for a e-mail reply...
    I once tried thinking for an entire day, but I found it less valuable than one moment of study. I once tried standing up on my toes to see far out in the distance, but I found that I could see much farther by climbing to a high place.
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