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Thread: The Jiroft culture!

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    Default The Jiroft culture!

    Jiroft civilisation (Persian تمدن جيرفت) is a postulated Early Bronze Age (3rd millennium BC) archaeological culture located in what is now Iran's Sistan and Kermān Provinces. The hypothesis is based on a collection of artifacts that were confiscated in Iran and accepted by many to have derived from the Jiroft area in south central Iran, reported by online Iranian news services beginning in 2001.
    The proposed type site is Konar Sandal near Jiroft in the Halil River area. Other significant sites associated with the culture include Shahr-i Sokhta (Burnt City), Tepe Bampur, Espiedej, Shahdad, Iblis, and Tepe Yahya.
    The proposition of grouping these sites as an "independent Bronze Age civilization with its own architecture and language", intermediate between Elam to the west and the Indus Valley Civilization to the east, is due to Yousef Majidzadeh, head of the archaeological excavation team in Jiroft. Majidzadeh speculates they may be the remains of the lost Aratta Kingdom. Majidzadeh's conclusions have met with skepticism from some reviewers. Other conjectures (eg. Daniel T. Potts, Piotr Steinkeller) have connected the Konar Sandal with the obscure city-state of Marhashi, that apparently lay to the east of Elam proper.
    Taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiroft_culture

    My questions:

    1) who were they?
    2) is there any connection between them and the persians?
    3) Your opinions!

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    No opinions? Guys on the forum you really need to stop the classification for a bit it has gone too far! Only classify this,her,me,him threads on this forum now..

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    Probably people related to Dravidians, before being pushed into India, by the incoming Aryan invaders into Iran. Dravidian Bahuris still live in that area, and have siginficantly intemarried with the Baluch and Sistanis. They are also the darkest Iranians. They can also be relatives of the Elamites, whom are hypothesized to be Dravidic peoples, thus if their is more decoding of the langauge and culture it can be link of the two groups, and it might in turn be supportive of the Dravidian origins of the Sumerians, whom are belived to have relations to the Elimates. Later the Dravidians would be pushed even further into Southern India, by incoming waves of Indic Aryans.

    Their connection to modern day Persian would be minimal, however their connection to Baluch and Sistanis is much greater.

    Their has to be more research both on the lingustic, cultural, and genetic landcaspe until we understand whom those people are. What we have is just speculations as with the Sumerians and Elamites. However their defenite link between those two civilizations and India in my opinion, and the same will hold true of the Jifrots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephilim View Post
    Probably people related to Dravidians, before being pushed into India, by the incoming Aryan invaders into Iran. Dravidian Bahuris still live in that area, and have siginficantly intemarried with the Baluch and Sistanis. They are also the darkest Iranians. They can also be relatives of the Elamites, whom are hypothesized to be Dravidic peoples, thus if their is more decoding of the langauge and culture it can be link of the two groups, and it might in turn be supportive of the Dravidian origins of the Sumerians, whom are belived to have relations to the Elimates. Later the Dravidians would be pushed even further into Southern India, by incoming waves of Indic Aryans.

    Their connection to modern day Persian would be minimal, however their connection to Baluch and Sistanis is much greater.

    Their has to be more research both on the lingustic, cultural, and genetic landcaspe until we understand whom those people are. What we have is just speculations as with the Sumerians and Elamites. However their defenite link between those two civilizations and India in my opinion, and the same will hold true of the Jifrots.
    So you think that they were dravidian? I think that whoever the people behind the Jiroft were they became sponged up into the later iranian cultures. The aryans surely assimilated them fast and effective..

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