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A good chunk of them take such majors because they find it easier to graduate.
This is not always the case with psychiatrists and psychologists, but I find it to be with therapists. There are some of the STUPIDEST people who work as psychotherapists and counselors and I mean idiotic. They're probably in general below actors and models in intelligence.
Lobotomies for all socialists, it's the law!
"Pride is the recognition that you are your own highest value and, like all man's values it has to be earned." Ayn Rand.
This is not always the case with psychiatrists and psychologists, but I find it to be with therapists. There are some of the STUPIDEST people who work as psychotherapists and counselors and I mean idiotic. They're probably in general below actors and models in intelligence.
I can't speak for Psychiatrists, but I remember people who usually opted for fields like History, Literature, Psychology, Sociology, etc usually went into these fields because they found them easier. In fact many sports athletes who go to college on scholarship usually major in such fields. There are also a lot of people that just go to university for the sake of saying they have an education, so they end up in the same fields.
With that said, there are people who love being in such fields and I respect their decisions, these are usually the people that tend to go the extra mile in these majors by getting their Masters and PHD.
I agree somewhat, but females are generally more sensitive and emotionally deeper too. Their own sensitivity and emotional depth could allow them to "read" others better. Generalizing here of course, some men can be sensitive/emotionally deep too.
Females are certainly more emotional, but I wouldn't call them deep, they rather have range more than depth. I do agree with you that women are generally better to "read" people, but still that ability is subconscious and intuitive whereas psychologists work by systematic and conscious reasoning, which of course is quite a different matter. And thus if you pick up a textbook on psychology you will naturally find very few female names in it... with the possible exception of the names of the patients in the examples of course
This is a FASCINATING phenomenon of short male leaders, except that Hussein Obama is as tall as a jackrabbit.
Interestingly enough American presidents tend to be quite tall. Both Clinton and Bush are around 6'2" as well. I think this is because the American presidential election is really a type of Mr America contest more than anything else. The best-looking guy with the whitest smile and most feel-good (but ever so empty) rhetoric wins, Obama being the perfect example.
Not everyone is a math and science whiz you know. If everyone tried being a doctor, we'd have one crappy medical system. You have to have the passion for what you want to do. Personally, I believe there is no such thing as 'inferior major' unless you're the one guy who got a degree in star wars studies. (Yes, things like that exist.) I want to do psychology, but that is because I want to be a junior high school counselor. I want to help kids out not because I'm "crazy" or I'm too dumb to do anything else. This is somewhat offensive. Also, there are fields such as criminal psychology that are VERY interesting... the minds of criminals work differently than the average person. Your mind and mine doesn't work the same way as a serial killer's does.
Not everyone is a math and science whiz you know. If everyone tried being a doctor, we'd have one crappy medical system. You have to have the passion for what you want to do. Personally, I believe there is no such thing as 'inferior major' unless you're the one guy who got a degree in star wars studies. (Yes, things like that exist.) I want to do psychology, but that is because I want to be a junior high school counselor. I want to help kids out not because I'm "crazy" or I'm too dumb to do anything else. This is somewhat offensive. Also, there are fields such as criminal psychology that are VERY interesting... the minds of criminals work differently than the average person. Your mind and mine doesn't work the same way as a serial killer's does.
Oh, I didn't say all fields in psychology are stupid or inferior AT ALL. In fact, agents who work in secret intelligence need to know A LOT about psychology in order to be able to talk to people and get the information they want. They also need to know it in order to prepare themselves emotionally for the stressful situations they go through. I was talking about people who get in that to bullshit with patients, because that is mainly what people study psychology for. A school counselour is different, I suppose but in my experience they have been weird too perhaps simply because they need to appear necessary in order to keep their job.
I never said psychology isn't a useful field, that's not what I said, but I've never met a person studying that in college who was doing it for those reasons.
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Lobotomies for all socialists, it's the law!
"Pride is the recognition that you are your own highest value and, like all man's values it has to be earned." Ayn Rand.
Oh, I didn't say all fields in psychology are stupid or inferior AT ALL. In fact, agents who work in secret intelligence need to know A LOT about psychology in order to be able to talk to people and get the information they want. They also need to know it in order to prepare themselves emotionally for the stressful situations they go through. I was talking about people who get in that to bullshit with patients, because that is mainly what people study psychology for. A school counselour is different, I suppose but in my experience they have been weird too perhaps simply because they need to appear necessary in order to keep their job.
I never said psychology isn't a useful field, that's not what I said, but I've never met a person studying that in college who was doing it for those reasons.
Well, have you asked them the reason why they are doing it? I also know a lot of people who are in the medical field for the wrong reasons... "because my parents want me to" or "because if I'm a nurse I'm sure I'll find a job and it pays well." My best friend was going for nursing, she actually stopped going to school and is now working at a bank. She says she's going back, but not sure what she wants to do. I'm worried, for I know its not easy going back once you leave. Especially if you have a job that pays somewhat well. What may appear to pay well when you're 20 won't cut it when you're 28 and have a mortgage.
I can't speak for Psychiatrists, but I remember people who usually opted for fields like History, Literature, Psychology, Sociology, etc usually went into these fields because they found them easier. In fact many sports athletes who go to college on scholarship usually major in such fields. There are also a lot of people that just go to university for the sake of saying they have an education, so they end up in the same fields.
With that said, there are people who love being in such fields and I respect their decisions, these are usually the people that tend to go the extra mile in these majors by getting their Masters and PHD.
People naturally choose the major they feel most comfortable with. If that means they find it "easier" than other subjects because they are enthusiastic about it, so what? I'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to counter what I think is your probable misconception.