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    Default friend's 23andme results

    I decided to do a thread to see if you guys can help me out with her results, she has send her rawdata to McDonald twice and got different responses. Maybe Lemba can help me on this.

    Her first results she got from McDonald

    Most likely fit is 34.4% (+- 0.3%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 16.4% (+- 1.0%) Africa(all East Africa)
    and 49.2% (+- 0.8%) America (all Native (Central) American)

    The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
    most likely at the top

    Irish=0.347 T-Ethiop=0.154 Maya=0.500
    Finland=0.341 T-Ethiop=0.175 Maya=0.484
    Irish=0.346 A-Ethiop=0.154 Maya=0.500
    Findland=0.341 A-Ethiop=0.175 Maya=0.484

    and clearly it is half Native American. But the actual mix above looks improbable
    so I found by hand:

    English=0.282 Spain=0.055 Moroccan=0.116 Maya=0.507 Mandenka=0.041

    Which looks very good. This is Latin American.
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    This is what she got a few days ago when she decided to send McDonald her rawdata again, this time with no Spanish ancestry.

    Most likely fit is 34.4% (+- 0.3%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 16.4% (+- 1.0%) Africa (all East Africa)
    and 49.2% (+- 0.8%) America (all Native (Central) American)

    The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
    most likely at the top

    Irish=0.347 T-Ethiop=0.154 Maya=0.500 or
    Finland=0.341 T-Ethiop=0.175 Maya=0.484 or
    Irish=0.346 A-Ethiop=0.154 Maya=0.500 or
    Finland=0.341 A-Ethiop=0.175 Maya=0.484

    and this fits quite OK.
    however a "best" fit is

    English=0.312 Moroccan=0.140 Maya=0.384 Na-Dene=0.132 Mandenka=0.033

    This is not typical Latin American, which usually is Spanish and just plain Mayan. However, the Na-Dene can be replace by lots of Siberian places, so its probably just an indication that it has something from the north of the real Maya added in.

    But it is in the general flavor of the typical Latin American.
    The Asian seen on the X chromosome and almost not all on the autosomes is also unusual and I have no idea whether it means anything.

    Doug McDonald






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    English=0.282 Spain=0.055 Moroccan=0.116 Maya=0.507 Mandenka=0.041

    Seems the most probable as mcdonald noted, he is almost a perfect mestizo! Now his African compnoent is whats confusing it is Definetely not as high as mcdonald put it in the first panel, but its also not as low as it is in this bolded panel. The Ethiopian in the first panel is a mistake, it just means your friend has ALOT of west asian, and seems to also have alot of north-african. The Moroccan is more admixed then the mozabite with recent African ancestry, therefore it will pull down his African percent slightly. He's likely about 10% Mena, 5-6% west-african.

    As far as the European the irish and finnish in the first panels mean that he might have some eastern european ancestry, such as german. I dont think mcdonald has germans. I think this mexican may have recent german or non-spanish eastern european ancestry.

    Also, although its hard to tell with people with low African admixture < ~10% . It seems that one of your friends parents had NO African admixture, so one parent is 0-2% African and the other is 7-10%. When he has more native populations it will be cool to see how people match in his panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemba View Post
    English=0.282 Spain=0.055 Moroccan=0.116 Maya=0.507 Mandenka=0.041

    Seems the most probable as mcdonald noted, he is almost a perfect mestizo! Now his African compnoent is whats confusing it is Definetely not as high as mcdonald put it in the first panel, but its also not as low as it is in this bolded panel. The Ethiopian in the first panel is a mistake, it just means your friend has ALOT of west asian, and seems to also have alot of north-african. The Moroccan is more admixed then the mozabite with recent African ancestry, therefore it will pull down his African percent slightly. He's likely about 10% Mena, 5-6% west-african.

    As far as the European the irish and finnish in the first panels mean that he might have some eastern european ancestry, such as german. I dont think mcdonald has germans. I think this mexican may have recent german or non-spanish eastern european ancestry.

    Also, although its hard to tell with people with low African admixture < ~10% . It seems that one of your friends parents had NO African admixture, so one parent is 0-2% African and the other is 7-10%. When he has more native populations it will be cool to see how people match in his panels.
    Interesting, my friend told me she has eastern europeans and northern europeans on relative finder. From what i know is that her maternal grandmother believed her father had recent "Italian" ancestry, and they were wealthy people living in Mexico City. She definitly doesnt have Italian ancestry, but some other European.

    I told my friend to do DNA Tribes since they have more samples.

    Thanks for your help Lemba

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    Have you done world9 for your friend? It is a bit more accurate than mcdonald % wise.

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