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    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    Run the new mthap tool on your results to be sure and also see if you match a new terminal haplogroup.
    I think I did, you can see that on my first post on the first page of this thread.

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    For anyone that cares below is what the author of mthap tool had to say about the new PhyloTree Build 14.

    Here are some interesting things about the new build:

    Build 14 has 3550 haplogroups, up from 2520 in Build 13, an increase of 1030 haplogroups, or about 41%. This means that a lot of you will have a new haplogroup in this new build.

    rCRS is now H2a2a1; previously it was H2a2a.

    Some haplogroups have C repeat insertions of widely varying length. Previous builds made an attempt to get the right number of insertions for haplogroups that have them, but there's often too much variation to accurately reflect in the haplogroup tree. Build 14 introduces a new .XC notation which indicates an arbitrary number of insertions (e.g. 573.XC instead of 571.1C 571.2C ... or 573.1CC ...). (As previously mentioned, mthap doesn't fully support this yet.)

    This build also marks the first step in transitioning from the Revised Cambridge Reference Sequence (rCRS) to the new Reconstructed Sapiens Reference Sequence (RSRS) which better represents a common ancestor rather than an arbitrary human rather far down the phylogenetic tree. After the Build 14 issues are worked out, I'll be looking at how to support this new convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    There are 122 terminal haplogroups under H1!! 23andme results do not have the defining markers for about all the new haplogroups. You will need an FGS to know which one.
    Which company offers that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowwhite View Post
    Which company offers that?
    www.ftdna.com:

    mtFullSequence
    Close info... ORDER NOW $299.00
    For both men and women.
    Highest level mtDNA test.
    Tests both HVR1 and HVR2 (Hypervariable Regions 1 and 2) and the Coding Region. This is all of the mtDNA.
    Provides most recent ancestral origins.*
    Includes HVR1, HVR1+HVR2, and FMS matches.
    FMS matches are related within the past 16 generations.**
    Recommended for confirming a relationship on the direct maternal line.
    We store your DNA for free so that you can upgrade the test in the future
    NO subscription fees

    Note: April 20th is DNA Day which in the past FTDNA had ~35% off sale. I got my MtDNA FGS last year for $199. It's the last MtDNA test you will EVER need since it is the Full Genome Sequence for your MtDNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetick View Post
    www.ftdna.com:

    mtFullSequence
    Close info... ORDER NOW $299.00
    For both men and women.
    Highest level mtDNA test.
    Tests both HVR1 and HVR2 (Hypervariable Regions 1 and 2) and the Coding Region. This is all of the mtDNA.
    Provides most recent ancestral origins.*
    Includes HVR1, HVR1+HVR2, and FMS matches.
    FMS matches are related within the past 16 generations.**
    Recommended for confirming a relationship on the direct maternal line.
    We store your DNA for free so that you can upgrade the test in the future
    NO subscription fees

    Note: April 20th is DNA Day which in the past FTDNA had ~35% off sale. I got my MtDNA FGS last year for $199. It's the last MtDNA test you will EVER need since it is the Full Genome Sequence for your MtDNA.
    Thank you very much for the information.
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    FTDNA sale is real and includes MtDNA FGS and FGS uprades!
    http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=31921

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    The new mthap link above is now Version 0.18pre4 (2012-04-24)

    From the mthap author: "Version 0.18pre4 (2012-04-24) is now up. This corrects some problems with long insertions and other small problems. This'll probably become the released version assuming nothing else is found."

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    Default H1an2 - might be my best bet

    Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):

    HVR2: 151T 152C 263G (315.1C)
    CR: 1438G 3010A 4769G
    HVR1: 16325C (16519C)

    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H1an2

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1an2:
    HVR2: 151T 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 8860G 15326G 15394C
    HVR1: 16325C

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1an2 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G[ ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 152C ⇨ H1(T152C) ⇨ 15394C ⇨ H1an ⇨ 151T 16325C ⇨ H1an2 ⇨ (315.1C) (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(7): 151T 152C 263G 1438G 3010A 4769G 16325C
    Mismatches(4): 750A 8860A 15326A 15394T <--- NOT TESTED YET-->
    Extras(0): (315.1C) (16519C)

    This is results from genebase.com with a subclade test btw. I have to test the full sequence to find out if this is the subclade I belong to.

    I found this:

    http://www.myheritage.no/dna-tests/m...nce?s=68939511

    I have an account there, but what I would like to know is if this would give me the opportunity to also join a project at FTDNA? I have written to MyHeritage.com just recently. Maybe someone in here might know.

    Oh, and I can't seem to find any information about this haplogroup subclade yet, is there anyone here that share this with me?

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    Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):

    HVR2:
    CR:
    HVR1: 16259T (16519C)

    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H2a2a1

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1:
    HVR2:
    CR:
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Good Match! Your results also had extra markers for this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)

    2) H2a2a

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR:
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(1): 263

    2) H2a2a1a

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1a:
    HVR2:
    CR: 15314A
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1a (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 15314A ⇨ H2a2a1a ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(1): 15314

    2) H2a2a1b

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1b:
    HVR2:
    CR: 9299G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1b (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 9299G ⇨ H2a2a1b ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(1): 9299

    3) H2a2((A16235G))

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2((A16235G)):
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 8860G 15326G
    HVR1: (16235G)

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2((A16235G)) (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ (16235G) ⇨ H2a2((A16235G)) ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Mismatches(0): (16235A)
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(3): 263 8860 15326

    3) H2a2a2

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a2:
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 6716G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a2 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 152C 6716G ⇨ H2a2a2 ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(3): 152 263 6716

    3) H2a2

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(3): 263 8860 15326

    3) H2a

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Extras(1): 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(4): 263 750 8860 15326

    I put upgrade in (HVR2). So my mtdna prediction is H2a2a1.

    So let´s see...
    Last edited by Gomorra; 2012-05-29 at 12:25.

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    I was a little stupid to make haste conclusion for HVR1 results. And I´m stupid also now to show my results. You cannot predict haplogroup yet. These are my results now. This is a dead thread. The Norwegian girl has a very interesting results. Nobody comments. I´d comment if i can. This is only hobby for me.

    Alfredo has a same kind skull shape like i have. But let´s hope the best that we don´t have a same haplogroup

    Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):

    HVR2: 152C 263G (315.1C)
    CR:
    HVR1: 16259T (16519C)


    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H2a2a2

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a2:
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 6716G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a2 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 152C 6716G ⇨ H2a2a2 ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(1): 6716


    2) H(T152C)

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H(T152C):
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H(T152C) (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 152C ⇨ H(T152C) ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(5): 750 1438 4769 8860 15326


    3) H16(T152C)

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H16(T152C):
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 10394T 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H16(T152C) (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 10394T ⇨ H16 ⇨ 152C ⇨ H16(T152C) ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 4769 8860 10394 15326


    3) H69

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H69:
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 4646C 4769G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H69 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 152C ⇨ H(T152C) ⇨ 4646C ⇨ H69 ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 4646 4769 8860 15326


    3) H52

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H52:
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 14220G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H52 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 152C ⇨ H(T152C) ⇨ 14220G ⇨ H52 ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 4769 8860 14220 15326


    3) H1(T152C)

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1(T152C):
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1(T152C) (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 152C ⇨ H1(T152C) ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 3010 4769 8860 15326


    3) H9

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H9:
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 13020C 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H9 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 152C ⇨ H(T152C) ⇨ 13020C ⇨ H9 ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 4769 8860 13020 15326


    3) H3(T152C)

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H3(T152C):
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 6776C 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H3(T152C) (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 6776C ⇨ H3 ⇨ 152C ⇨ H3(T152C) ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 4769 6776 8860 15326


    3) H46

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H46:
    HVR2: 152C 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 2772T 4769G 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H46 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 152C ⇨ H(T152C) ⇨ 2772T ⇨ H46 ⇨ (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(2): 152C 263G
    Extras(1): (315.1C) 16259T (16519C)
    Untested(6): 750 1438 2772 4769 8860 15326

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