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    Default My Opinion of the Origins of the Hallstatt Nordid

    FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY:

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    I think the Hallstatt type is simply a gracilized variant of the Corded-type (Proto-Nordid/ East-Nordid/ Corded-Nordid - however you like to say it). The two types are almost completely identical, with minor differences, hence gracilization from the more harsher-looking Corded types.

    Ok, basically C. Coon claimed it was a stabilized Corded-Danubian blend, well I think he over-thought it, it is simply a coincidence that the Neolithic Corded and Mediterrainid invaders where both high-skulled, fine-boned, Dolichocephals.

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    There is NO WAY in hell the Hallstatt is a result of a gracilized Cro-Magnid type (Upper Palaeolithic). I remember reading this on Skadi. Gracilized Cro-Magnids do exist and they are called Dalo-Falids, they are softer looking, but still big-boned and broad-faced.


    To conclude I doubt the Hallstatt type is the result of any racial mixing or has a Cro-Magnid origins - they are simply an offshoot of the Neolithic Corded/ Kurgan invaders.

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    could you post some examples of this phenotype ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNo.7 View Post
    To conclude I doubt the Hallstatt type is the result of any racial mixing or has a Cro-Magnid origins - they are simply an offshoot of the Neolithic Corded/ Kurgan invaders.
    modern europeans are a mix of native mesolithic hunter & gatherers (Cro-Magnid type) and Neolithic middle-easterners invaders (Mediterrainid type). Therefore nordics being racially mixed phenotype is very reasonable. The irony is nazis and white racists consider nordic type racially pure

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotibus View Post
    could you post some examples of this phenotype ?
    http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-hallstatt.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
    modern europeans are a mix of native mesolithic hunter & gatherers (Cro-Magnid type) and Neolithic middle-easterners invaders (Mediterrainid type). Therefore nordics being racially mixed phenotype is very reasonable. The irony is nazis and white racists consider nordic type racially pure
    Actually, judging by the skeletal structure, the unaltered Nordid phenotypes such as the Haltsatt and East-Nordid, are much more likely de-pigmented Mediterranid sub-types, so if that is indeed the case they are "pure".
    Last edited by Drogomir; 2012-05-16 at 04:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
    modern europeans are a mix of native mesolithic hunter & gatherers (Cro-Magnid type) and Neolithic middle-easterners invaders (Mediterrainid type). Therefore nordics being racially mixed phenotype is very reasonable. The irony is nazis and white racists consider nordic type racially pure
    I agree "pure" is such a dumb word to use.

    But seriously, the only noted differences between East-Nordid and Hallstatt Nordid are the fact that the East-Nordid is slightly higher skulled in most cases and has more of a tendency towards dolichocephalism.

    Gracilization on a phenotype is normally the 'smoothing' of primitive features, in other words, what I mean is the Hallstatt has become even less muscular, less coarse looking (e.g. a tendency towards mesocephalism) and with lower skull-height/ facial index, than its prototype.

    Then again I could be completely wrong. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogomir View Post
    http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-hallstatt.html

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    Actually, judging by the skeletal structure, the unaltered Nordid phenotypes such as the Haltsatt and East-Nordid, are much more likely de-pigmented Mediterranid sub-types, so if that is indeed the case they are "pure".
    I considered that too at one point.

    But the 'Danubian' Mediterrainids where very short. Most Mediterranean types are just to short to live up to Hallstatt morphology - literally speaking, not meant in a racist way.

    More likely de-pigmentated Corded and Kurgan invaders, who BTW, actually brought the cultures that Hallstatt type has been known to bear.[COLOR="Silver"]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogomir View Post
    Actually, judging by the skeletal structure, the unaltered Nordid phenotypes such as the Haltsatt and East-Nordid, are much more likely de-pigmented Mediterranid sub-types, so if that is indeed the case they are "pure".
    A Haltsatt nordic is no different from these men below:







    ^ judging by the skeletal structure Racially these are just pigmented caucasoids, but that still doesn't change the fact that it takes two different populations coming together to create these types of phenotypes.



    so This is similar logic behind Hallstatt Nordics, they are also a racial outcome of two different populations coming together, an middle-eastern Mediterranid invader and native european Cro-Magnid
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    Perhaps this is of interest. http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/662332

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue3000 View Post
    Perhaps this is of interest. http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/662332
    Yeah I've crossed this whole "Nordic homeland of Norway" crap.

    Norway was originally inhabited Cro-Magnids, most of whom, blended with the Corded-type invaders, creating variable strains and phenotypes.

    I do think that physical anthropology shouldn't be blocked by this "political correctness" crap.

    But the Nordic homeland of Norawy? LOL! Its the 21st Century, time for real science.

    Retarded, racist, fuckwits like Huxley, Ripley, Madison and (quite frankly) Bertil had fantasy theories- based on nothing. However, people like C. Coon, started proper physical anthropology on a good road, I can't see why their work can't be followed up on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
    A Haltsatt nordic is no different from these men below\
    Comparing Hallsatts to Nord-Indids is one thing but to Australoids?

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    The Easter Island Heads actually represent the 'Halstatt' phenotype very well. The long, rectangular facial symmetry is easy to notice, even for the most amateur "Eyeball Anthropologist".
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