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Thread: Genetic Heritage of the Balto-Slavic Speaking Populations (Kushniarevich, 2015)664 days old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    Lots of possible R1a burials in them Malopolska valleys.

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    As for that dendrogram made by LukaszM, here some more clusters:







    Rugevit is right that Belarusians cluster with each other and with Russians from Smolensk:




    PL_average includes only samples with unknown or mixed regional origin.

    It is possible that some regions are overrepresented (probably Mazovians).

    Maybe people from Warsaw more often test their DNA - and that's why.

    Probably this sample should be called PL_mixed rather than PL_average.
    Last edited by Litvin; 2017-05-24 at 09:03.
    Ancient R1b-DF27 sample:
    ~2431-2150 BC, Bell Beaker, Quedlinburg
    Ancient samples of W6a:
    ~3500-2700 BC, Yamnaya, Lopatino II
    ~3260-2630 BC, Corded Ware, Plinkaigalis
    ~2566-2477 BC, Corded Ware, Esperstedt

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    In the interest of fair and equitable treatment, dendrogram's make perfect sense for those wishing to be included in the Polish/Slavic, ethnogenesis, a really fantastic tool to treat people with dignity[In my humble opinion]. No information is required -specific ancestral snps groups/clusters; everybody is grouped by "their" ancestral paper trail combined with a snapshot of their autosomal dna. The other side of the coin -technology is advancing at a very good pace now that ancient samples can be tested for specific ancestral snp markers. TMRCA rates in a very loose sense can then be applied to paint a rough picture of those wishing to delve a little deeper into their ancestry, particularly, those who are studying paternal kinship clans of specific geographical regions..

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    It seems that there is population continuity in North-Eastern Poland since the Bronze Age.

    Here K36 nMonte results for Late Bronze Age sample RISE598 (Sudovia 908-485 BC):

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    PL_Sudovia Lithuanian PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
    22.20166 22.60709 25.38917
    Latvian Russian_Bryansk Belarusian_East
    26.05825 26.09645 27.00599
    PL_Mazovia Russian_Novgorod_Pskov
    27.49986 27.82478

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    PL_Sudovia 55.80
    Lithuanian 30.85
    PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia 7.75

    Latvian 2.30
    Russian_Bryansk 2.25
    PL_average 0.25
    Belarusian_Polesye 0.20
    Russian_Novgorod_Pskov 0.20
    Belarusian_West 0.10
    Belarusian_East 0.10
    Ukrainian_East 0.10
    Carpathian_Rusyns 0.05
    Pl_Kashubians 0.05

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    RISE598 is kit number M483824.
    Last edited by Litvin; 2017-05-24 at 17:06.
    Ancient R1b-DF27 sample:
    ~2431-2150 BC, Bell Beaker, Quedlinburg
    Ancient samples of W6a:
    ~3500-2700 BC, Yamnaya, Lopatino II
    ~3260-2630 BC, Corded Ware, Plinkaigalis
    ~2566-2477 BC, Corded Ware, Esperstedt

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    Before Litvin posts them:





    Are they German-admixed or non-Baltic (in contrast to the very North-Eastern Slavs)?

    Do I see it well that from this PCA by lukaszM:



    ... it looks as if Lusatian Sorbs came from Southern Poland/Western Ukraine/Carpathians?


    But the clustering algorithm has put them together with Western and Nortern Poles:




    I would think that Sorbs would cluster with Czechs like East Germans do, but they apparently don't.
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