debunking the false idea of "aryan" and "semitic" races

[Metal Gear]

Southern European "white nationalists" like to identify themselves with Northern Europeans and act as if they share nothing with other Mediterraneans. There's nothing more hilarious then reading some Italian or Greek writing on race forums that he/she can't stand the fact that Jews and Gypsies are "non-whites."

Let's use this thread to debunk once and for all the idea of a "European race" and a "Semitic race" divided by some bold line drawn on a map by Stromfront or the Apricity.

The first line of evidence is that European "aryans," despite their language, cluster closer to Semites then they do to Indians/Iranians/Pakis regularly and consistency.

The next line of evidence is that Europe was formed by multiple migrations, but both the Paleolithic and Neolithic migrations were tied to the near east.

Haplogroups are not perfect, but they clearly point to a Mediterranean link between the continents.

Finally, Jews repetitively cluster closer to Europeans and Turks than they do to Arabs. In some cases (but not always), they cluster closer to Northern Europe than some Southern Europeans do and physical appearance also is less exotic.

[pinguin]

Which Jews? Ashkenazi of course will cluster with norther Europeans and Sephardite with West Mediterranean peoples. However Jews are also close to theirs cousins... the Palestineans and Lebanese.

[Polako]

Which Jews? Ashkenazi of course will cluster with norther Europeans.

You gotta be kidding me.

[birko19]

Semitic is simply a Biblical term that's not valid in my opinion, if you wanna use it only stick to languages, there's no such thing as Semitic race.

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You gotta be kidding me.

Well on 23andMe some Ashkenazi Jews score very high with other Northern Europeans, so there's some truth to that.

[Metal Gear]

Jews rarely cluster with Northern Europeans, but Southern Europeans sometimes drift further than Jews in the case of Italians and Greeks and Basques. But sometimes not. It depends on the study and the Jewish population and the Southern European population.

So I'm agreeing I guess with Polako here.

But in the case of Dutch Jews, they are more Dutch than Jewish according to the Khazaria website. This however is an exception.

[Polako]

Well on 23andMe some Ashkenazi Jews score very high with other Northern Europeans, so there's some truth to that.

You gotta be kidding me.

[birko19]

You gotta be kidding me.

Jewish phobia?

I'm just saying, on 23andMe Ashkenazi Jews seem to score well with Northern and Southern Europeans.

[Polako]

I'm just saying, on 23andMe Ashkenazi Jews seem to score well with Northern Europeans.

No they don't.

[birko19]

No they don't.

On my list they do, in fact, a Pole on my list scores 74.42% with an Ashkenazi Jew, not high enough?

[Metal Gear]

The hollywood neo-nazi argument of today is that Hitler was wrong about Slavs, but right about Jews. So while the big Nazism with a capital "N" has been debunked, the little Nazism with a lower case "n" still believes in Hitler's typology but just includes Slavs as Aryans.

I'm declaring that even the lower case "n" typology is bankrupt.