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    Default The Genomic History Of Southeastern Europe (Mathieson et al. 2017)

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    Farming was first introduced to southeastern Europe in the mid-7th millennium BCE - brought by migrants from Anatolia who settled in the region before spreading throughout Europe. However, the dynamics of the interaction between the first farmers and the indigenous hunter-gatherers remain poorly understood because of the near absence of ancient DNA from the region. We report new genome-wide ancient DNA data from 204 individuals-65 Paleolithic and Mesolithic, 93 Neolithic, and 46 Copper, Bronze and Iron Age-who lived in southeastern Europe and surrounding regions between about 12,000 and 500 BCE. We document that the hunter-gatherer populations of southeastern Europe, the Baltic, and the North Pontic Steppe were distinctive from those of western Europe, with a West-East cline of ancestry. We show that the people who brought farming to Europe were not part of a single population, as early farmers from southern Greece are not descended from the Neolithic population of northwestern Anatolia that was ancestral to all other European farmers. The ancestors of the first farmers of northern and western Europe passed through southeastern Europe with limited admixture with local hunter-gatherers, but we show that some groups that remained in the region mixed extensively with local hunter-gatherers, with relatively sex-balanced admixture compared to the male-biased hunter-gatherer admixture that we show prevailed later in the North and West. After the spread of farming, southeastern Europe continued to be a nexus between East and West, with intermittent steppe ancestry, including in individuals from the Varna I cemetery and associated with the Cucuteni-Trypillian archaeological complex, up to 2,000 years before the Steppe migration that replaced much of northern Europe's population.
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    So the Balkan hypothesis of the spread of Proto-Anatolian just gained a lot of ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simi View Post
    So the Balkan hypothesis of the spread of Proto-Anatolian just gained a lot of ground.
    Or perhaps it didn't, I sure hope there's data from Ezero in there! What I do know is that linguistically, it still makes more sense than a migration from the Steppe to Anatolia through the Caucasus.

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    Anyway, to me, this is far more interesting than the BB behemoth. It could potentially have some serious implications for R1b's origins, if there's data from Vucedol for example. Fingers crossed for Mycenaean and Iron Age genomes from Greece.
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    Those Bronze Age samples are just red herrings to distract you from the actual arrivals of populations with Semitic ancestry. Don’t take the bait by focusing on the wrong samples, lol. He is passing off Bronze Age Levantines with no evidence of strong predynastic input, as “Semites“. This way, he can flip it around and say Proto-Semitic speakers and predynastics were more or less identical to the Bronze Age Levantines sampled so far.
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    @Semitic Duwa

    Wonder what the resident Proto-Semite has to say about this. I thought unmixed Egyptians were supposed to be Abusir with less/zero Chl?

    In your view, does this prove you wrong, or is it just a coincidence () that M1 is absent in one of the three subsamples from Abusir, and rare overall?

    And don’t change your signature now, please. I’m looking forward to you looking more and more incompetent as more aDNA is published. Wish there was a way to speed this up. But the extra wait and seeing you with your pants down every day, kinda has its own appeal, too.

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    The paper is here.
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    Holy shit, R1b in the Balkans - and that old?

    9221-8548 calBCE (9480±110* BP, AA-57771) Iron_Gates_HG Serbia U5b2c R1b1a(xR1b1a1a,xR1b1a1a2)
    I1819 (8825-8561 calBCE (9420±50 BP, Poz-81128), Ukraine_Mesolithic, Vasil'evka) - R1a
    You guys reading this shit?
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    “At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races."

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    Samples from this paper:















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    Mesolithic:

    R in France

    apart of I2 quite a lot of R1b1a in Iron Gates (Serbia)

    R1a, R1b1a2 and I2a1 in Vasilevka (Ukraine) - all 3 sample U5b2b like Villabruna

    Q1a2 in Latvia

    maybe J in France


    Neolithic:

    R1b1a in Lepensky Vir (Serbia)

    GAC dominated by I2a2

    Dereivka mostly R1b1a but also I2a2 and R1a

    E1b1b1a1b1 in Croatian Cardial

    J2 in Austrian LBK


    Eneolithic/Chalcolithic:

    R1 in Varna

    R1b1a in Bulgaria


    Bronze Age:

    Bulgarian Yamnaya Outlier Bul4 is I2a2a1b1b

    J2b2a in EMBA Croatia

    Yamna type of R1b (R1b1a1a2a2 CTS1078/Z2103) in Vucedol

    Asian type of R1a (R1a1a1b2 F992/S202/Z93) in Bulgarian MLBA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojewoda View Post
    Samples from this paper:

    Pfft...nothing from Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Hades View Post
    Pfft...nothing from Greece.
    Look again.

    EDIT. There are 4 samples from Greek Neolithic - all females.
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    Looks like Peloponnese_Neolithic is very close to Tepecik.


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    @Semitic Duwa

    Wonder what the resident Proto-Semite has to say about this. I thought unmixed Egyptians were supposed to be Abusir with less/zero Chl?

    In your view, does this prove you wrong, or is it just a coincidence () that M1 is absent in one of the three subsamples from Abusir, and rare overall?

    And don’t change your signature now, please. I’m looking forward to you looking more and more incompetent as more aDNA is published. Wish there was a way to speed this up. But the extra wait and seeing you with your pants down every day, kinda has its own appeal, too.

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