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Thread: Why Do Russians Have High Rates of Neuroticism

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAONABO View Post
    I know its a stereotypical gross overgeneralization, but the impression I get from China is similar to what I get looking at a vast colony of ants. All moving as a group, no individuality, etc. The queen directing every facet of their daily life.
    Nah China is not that totalitarian, it is more like Beijing doesn't have enough control in some areas, hence the extreme corruption in rural areas.

    There is a saying in China that the mountains are high and the Emperor is far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Definitely agreed. Russia has had hard times and I hope they them better future. We have in Finland growing Russian minority and people like them. They are one of the most wanted comers.
    Russians aren't liked in Switzerland, I can tell you that. No Slavs are really...

    Run that through google translator:

    http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/re...story/27551417

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackKnightstick View Post
    Nah China is not that totalitarian, it is more like Beijing doesn't have enough control in some areas, hence the extreme corruption in rural areas.

    There is a saying in China that the mountains are high and the Emperor is far away.

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    Russians aren't liked in Switzerland, I can tell you that. No Slavs are really...

    Run that through google translator:

    http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/re...story/27551417
    Ok, but we want here rich Russians
    "It is Chinese for sure"
    "no, it is Mongolian"
    "no, it is Siberian"
    "no, it is Amerindian"
    "no, it was Santa Claus from Lapland"

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" - Joseph Goebbels about ethnic genetics.

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    My IBS-similarity by country

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackKnightstick View Post
    No one else has experienced Russian "craziness"?
    Haven't we all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
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    Sad thing is a lot of Russian women are hot as hell and crazy as batshit. :-) Damn waste if you ask me.

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    Authoritarianism breeds neuroticism, and neuroticism requires ever-more authoritarian management. It is a deadly cycle.

    I believe neuroticism has to do with social trust. The lower the amount of social trust, the more neuroticism there is. Decentralized, autonomous, self-governing communities are based on social trust, which is the trust that your neighbors will not take advantage of you and that you, in reciprocation, will not take advantage of your neighbors. That is to say, social trust is related to personal responsibility in both oneself and ones's neighbors.

    I think it is true that people like Russians and Chinese are highly neurotic. Their communities have low amounts of social trust, are not autonomous, and not self-governing. I've noticed Russians and Chinese are always paranoid that other people will take advantage of them (by other people I mean other people in their communities) When an authoritarian Tzarist-style government attempts to rule and micromanage the entire country, like in Russia or China, then individuals start to abdicate personal responsibility, leading to higher neuroticism, crime ,etc. This higher neuroticism justifies - at least in the eyes of the ruling classes - ever-increasing amounts of authoritarian rule.

    In my experience Somalis have very low neuroticism because their society is nearly anarchic. There is no expectation in Somali culture for some authoritarian intervention from on high to correct disputes and injustices between people. The expectation is for individuals to settle their differences in a cooperative, non-neurotic way. In that manner, Somalis' mindsets do not suffer from paranoia and neuroticism, unlike many Russians or Chinese who have lived under Tzarist-style systems for so long.

    Neuroticism can be cured, I believe through decentralizing and "democratizing" reforms. Taiwanese people are much less neurotic than Mainland Chinese people, I believe the reason for this is Taiwan does not suffer the harmful psychological effects of a hypercentralized totalitarian regime.

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    Look who is talking. Everybody knows one of the more mentally sick country is Holly U.S.A.

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    Yeah that's right America is more dysfunctional than Russia, if you consult the original study I posted info too, you will see on the graph that Americans are not nearly as neurotic as Russians, not even close.

    We are just slightly above average, we are very extroverted. Russians are way off in their own universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackKnightstick View Post
    We are just slightly above average, we are very extroverted. Russians are way off in their own universe.
    I actually agree that Russians are very neuroticized on average. However, I do not think that neuroticism and extroversion are the same thing or that they even correlate. I do not think Russians are particularly introverted, at least not in comparison with the Chinese or Japanese. Russians are neurotics, but they are not shy neurotics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackKnightstick View Post
    http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_im...rs1-725321.jpg

    It's even higher than Japanese (which is very high) Since I was married to a Japanese woman and lived in Japan, but have also dated and known many of Former Soviets (Russians and Ukrainians mostly) I can tell you that Japanese people are often quite 'strange' but many Russians are just dysfunctional, the one's I know here are quite smart, but usually in their personal lives shit is jacked up...the Japanese I know are pretty stable, but they often have some weird quirks, such as generally calm and rarely show negative emotions in public, but when they do get mad (like at a loss of face) they explode in a way that I rarely see in most Americans. It's like they keep too much stuff bottled up. I think this is why Japanese drink a lot, it is the only time in public they are free to speak their mind without fear of offense...

    Russians on the other hand just seem very erratic in their behavior. Almost every Russian I've ever known drinks heavily (by American standards), the women seem very emotional and negative always talking about their "rok" (fate) and not at all hard to get into bed (I'm not saying they are whores, I just means easier than most American women...it's all relative) that being said, it seems they have hard times maintaining stable relationships. Many of the women seem very emotional, irrational (way more than most women, definitely more than American or Japanese women)...


    I've seen this many times, it can' be coincidence. One of my Russian male friends said that it is due to Communism, but I don't think so, if you read Russian history, I think you can see a lot of this in the elites as well.

    An ex-girlfriend (ethnic Russian) said that she thinks it is just "vodka"...she right now is coming off her 2nd marriage, and she is my age. :-O Most of her friends (almost all Russian and Ukrainians) are also divorced at least once, all of them are under 35...but all are educated professionals, in their personal lives they seem to live more like trailer park people. :-( It's very very odd.


    Coming from a "Sub Saharan African American"

    Who African Americans have a Murder rate about 1/3rd higher than Russia. Even though Russia has the highest Murder rate in Europe.
    Not including the fact that African Americans have a Income level that is about on par with The European Union.


    Russians have come to America & have done great things.

    Like Russian Zyworkin who invented Television first in America. Which is above & beyond that of anything that Sub Saharans have ever done.

    No
    Sub Saharan Africans are never crazy. Only in my area a Sub Saharan African female murdered her boy friend.
    I would prefer "BEAUTIFUL INTELLIGENT FEMININE RUSSIAN WOMEN to that of what your people offer LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackKnightstick View Post
    No one else has experienced Russian "craziness"? lol My opion is that Russia will always have a very strong authoritarian leadership because I seriously doubt the society would function without that, the temperament of the people...they just need to be controlled.
    Yes, Sudanese are not mentally ill at all!! Do well with their Government! Sudan has made a great functioning Society!

    Sudan does not have an Authoritive government at all. They function great as a society.

    While Russia put people into Space.

    Sudan does what???????

    Sudan is doing very well with their Mental illness!

    The 1 million + Dinka SLaughtered in Sudan + 200,000 Enslaved.

    With Sudanese Chopping off people's heads. Burning their Villages. Raping children & women & selling them to slavery.


    I think it has more to do with Intellect. Russians & Japanese are more "Aware & Intelligent"
    So they are aware of when they have a Neurotic problem.

    While with Sudanese they are not smart enough so it comes out by beheading someone & raping them. Like seen in Darfur.
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    Better question: Why are Russians so mean?

    Blunt motherfuckers. lol.

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