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    Default Differences between Amhara's, Oromo's, Tigray's?

    I find it hard to tell the differences between them in features, especially the ones in Addis Ababa, how do you tell the differences between them? i know Oromos outside of addis look very different and tigrays can sometimes be a little darker.

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    Tigrayans tend to have more rectangular faces (longer length-wise) vs. Amharas, but it's difficult. With Oromos, they look a bit "off" from Amharas. Sometimes, it's obvious, because they look like Sidamas with a very large face and wide robust jaw, but Oromos vary greatly based on region. A Welega Oromo isn't going to be too distinct from a Gojjame. Eastern Oromos look kind of Somali sometimes, so they're easy to tell apart, and southern Oromos look like S. Somalis or Gabras, which are also distinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezana View Post
    Tigrayans tend to have more rectangular faces (longer length-wise) vs. Amharas, but it's difficult. With Oromos, they look a bit "off" from Amharas. Sometimes, it's obvious, because they look like Sidamas with a very large face and wide robust jaw, but Oromos vary greatly based on region. A Welega Oromo isn't going to be too distinct from a Gojjame. Eastern Oromos look kind of Somali sometimes, so they're easy to tell apart, and southern Oromos look like S. Somalis or Gabras, which are also distinct.
    yeah also, many oromos are not really pure oromos, especially the ones you find in shewa and welega, they seem to be a mix of amhara and oromo, yet they speak oromigna

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    Quote Originally Posted by iateyourheadphons View Post
    yeah also, many oromos are not really pure oromos, especially the ones you find in shewa and welega, they seem to be a mix of amhara and oromo, yet they speak oromigna
    That's true of Amharas, too. The original Oromo homeland was a (relative to today) small area in S. Ethiopia, while the original Amhara ethnic group was a small Amharic-speaking group in the medieval province of Amhara, a relatively small area between the Walaqa and, if I remember correctly, Bashilo rivers in Wollo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezana View Post
    That's true of Amharas, too. The original Oromo homeland was a (relative to today) small area in S. Ethiopia, while the original Amhara ethnic group was a small Amharic-speaking group in the medieval province of Amhara, a relatively small area between the Walaqa and, if I remember correctly, Bashilo rivers in Wollo.
    I don't exactly recall walaqa being mentioned but according to Donald Levine's : the evolution of a multiethnic society (Pg.76), the original Amhara Homeland was bordered to the south by the Wanchet river (basically menze area) to the North by the Bashillo river (Angot area), to the west by the Eastern bend of the Abay river and to the east by where the highlands end and lowland begins.
    Which would make the region to be centered somewhere around the confluence of the pre-TPLF provinces of Shewa, Wello, Gonder and Gojam, like so:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aware_Dog View Post
    I don't exactly recall walaqa being mentioned but according to Donald Levine's : the evolution of a multiethnic society (Pg.76), the original Amhara Homeland was bordered to the south by the Wanchet river (basically menze area) to the North by the Bashillo river (Angot area), to the west by the Eastern bend of the Abay river and to the east by where the highlands end and lowland begins.
    Which would make the region to be centered somewhere around the confluence of the pre-TPLF provinces of Shewa, Wello, Gonder and Gojam, like so:
    Possibly, where's Wanchet, is it just north of Walaqa? I remember the name Walaqa, but there was also a small province by that name, which I think was just to the south.

    I can't remember the exact sources, though. I thought one of them was Le domaine des rois éthiopiens, 1270-1527, but I can't seem to find any specifics from a quick search.

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=MmeqC2Da4DMC

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    Shewa in my opinion seems to be a state occupied by a majority "amharas" yet it is declared a Oromo state, the only pure oromos i can think of in that region are the ones in "sellalae".

    i also have doubts that Oromos are 62% in population compared to Habeshas, i dont think all oromo speakers should be classified as Oromo, based only on the fact that they speak Oromigna. Oromos tend to have mingled with amhara groups, yet they keep their Oromo culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezana View Post
    Possibly, where's Wanchet, is it just north of Walaqa? I remember the name Walaqa, but there was also a small province by that name, which I think was just to the south.

    I can't remember the exact sources, though. I thought one of them was Le domaine des rois éthiopiens, 1270-1527, but I can't seem to find any specifics from a quick search.

    http://books.google.fr/books?id=MmeqC2Da4DMC
    The Wanchet is slightly downstream of the Walaqa river, i.e. it is between the Abay tributary rivers of Walaqa and Jamma , although the Wanchet is also a tributary to the Jamma river.

    Here is the Levine source I mentioned earlier (look at Pg.76) : http://books.google.com/books?id=Ttm...page&q&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by iateyourheadphons View Post
    i also have doubts that Oromos are 62% in population compared to Habeshas,
    Source for Oromos being 62%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aware_Dog View Post
    The Wanchet is slightly downstream of the Walaqa river, i.e. it is between the Abay tributary rivers of Walaqa and Jamma , although the Wanchet is also a tributary to the Jamma river.

    Here is the Levine source I mentioned earlier (look at Pg.76) : http://books.google.com/books?id=Ttm...page&q&f=false

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    Source for Oromos being 62%?
    Then that's probably the river I was thinking of. Oromos are 34.5% according to the most recent census.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezana View Post
    Then that's probably the river I was thinking of. Oromos are 34.5% according to the most recent census.
    sorry, i dont know were i got 62% from

    this is the population by ethnic group

    Oromo 35.1%, Amhara 26,9%, Tigray 6.2%, Somali 6.0%, Gurage 4.3%, Sidama 3.4%, Wolayta 2%, Afar 2%, Hadiya 2%, Gamo 1%

    i dont think all people who speak oromigna are actually considerd oromo

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