Donate Now
Goal amount for this month: 180 EUR, Received: 55 EUR (31%)
By donating, you not only support the continued existence of this site, you also improve this site in various ways, by making it affordable for ForumBiodiversity to upgrade the server with better hardware and licensed non-free proprietary software, but also motivating the staff to work harder. ABF will always be free of charge (gratis) to use. However, if everyone donates a small monthly amount, it makes a tremendous difference for the forum's overall quality in the long haul.
Look my friend I am Muslim and I will defend my religion.
However I have my doubts about any religious text.
You can not come to a land and claim ownership using some 5000 year old text. OK?
Jews came here and stayed, all right.
But they have no right over this land other than some belief. Their belief doesn't guarantee them any ownership over anything.
Ahmedinejad is fundamentally right when he asks why in the hell Europeans didn't give up a part of Europe to the Jews for the Holocaust. Who gave them the right to come to Palestine and take over the land of other people?
Now as a Turk and mostly secular person I say ok they came, let them live. But they've got to give something in return like East Jerusalem that holds the 3rd holly site of Islam where according to the Muslim belief Prophet Mohammad rose to heaven with his horse Burak through the Dome of Rock.
It is as believable as Moses' story. Not more not less.
The worst thing that has happened to the world is the evangelical Christian Sionists. Total maniacs.
Originally Posted by alfieb
Muslims have no right to East Jerusalem. Yes, Arabs constituted the majority of the population there, but the Muslim claim to the city is weak. Muhammad never once stepped foot in the city and how many times is it referred to in the Quran? Zero!
Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish world since time immemorial. The Dome of the Rock must be protected and whatnot, and freedom of worship must be respected, but the idea of a Palestinian state with its' capital in Jerusalem is just silly.
Jews had been in Palestine for thousands of years. It's not like they all got up and left. You built the Dome of the Rock over their Temple Mount. You took their city. They took it back, and they're keeping it. If you don't believe God gave the "Chosen People" the "Promised Land", that's up to you. However, they do, and they're never giving up East Jerusalem peacefully.
Before being shocked go read the paper I posted. The author is Jewish and left academia for a lucrative hedge fund job and the paper got published at one of the top journals of the time. An open mind and sound empirical analysis are always important in the understanding of human affairs. My likely guess for who traded those options would include some people close to the Bush administration. Many options trades are placed through the Caymans but if someone really wants it those put trades can be linked to certain brokerage houses and eventually distinct people.
Why didn't the American people ask of their senators and executive branches to analyze the abnormal option activity that preceded and predicted the events of 9/11?
Originally Posted by alfieb
I'm shocked.
But, thank you very much for going through that entire nonsensical rant without using the words "Jew", "Israel", and "Zionist".
You can find anyone if you look hard enough for them. A Jew who believes 9/11 was an inside job, a Jew who believes the holocaust is a myth, even a Jewish organization that welcomes the destruction of Israel. Self-hating is more common among Jews than any other group.
That doesn't make it true. Nineteen Arab men hijacked four airplanes and tried to destroy the American economy and government.
Jews took the whole area from the Canaanites who took it from God knows who...nobody will permanently own that piece of useless real estate...but Muslims sure had it for the longest time...642 AD to 1948 with temprary setbacks like the crusades, the british mandate, etc
My friend this guy is a good empiricist and his paper got published at a top finance journal. He doesn't believe in anything he simply shows in the data that some SON OF A BITCH SHORTED THE MARKET IMMENSELY PRIOR TO 9/11 USING PUT OPTIONS AND NO ONE IN THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT EVEN SEARCHED FOR THIS.
I don't think it was bin laden who traded the PUTS. THEN WHO IN THE FUCKING WORLD DID THIS?
Originally Posted by alfieb
You can find anyone if you look hard enough for them. A Jew who believes 9/11 was an inside job, a Jew who believes the holocaust is a myth, even a Jewish organization that welcomes the destruction of Israel. Self-hating is more common among Jews than any other group.
That doesn't make it true. Nineteen Arab men hijacked four airplanes and tried to destroy the American economy and government.
There are a lot of really, really weird coincidences out there.
I'll give you a completely unrelated one out of left field, but it's flabbergasting.
In June 2007, professional wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and his son, then killed himself. Shortly before Benoit killed himself, a Wikipedia user reported that Benoit had missed a wrestling event because his wife had died. This was two days before anyone found the bodies. The Wikipedia user was even from the same town where World Wrestling Entertainment is headquartered, but he was completely unrelated to the company and to Benoit, but rather just your typical internet vandalism loser.
No conspiracy, no advanced knowledge. Just a kid with a random idea and absolutely perfect timing.
You are talking about one event, that can be a coincidence.
This professor analyzed over thousands of trading days and characteristics before statistically determining that pre 9/11 trading was abnormal.
You should first go learn about the law of large numbers, the central limit theorem and statistics before you make any comparisons of this academic study and this freak event.
Originally Posted by alfieb
There are a lot of really, really weird coincidences out there.
I'll give you a completely unrelated one out of left field, but it's flabbergasting.
In June 2007, professional wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and his son, then killed himself. Shortly before Benoit killed himself, a Wikipedia user reported that Benoit had missed a wrestling event because his wife had died. This was two days before anyone found the bodies. The Wikipedia user was even from the same town where World Wrestling Entertainment is headquartered, but he was completely unrelated to the company and to Benoit, but rather just your typical internet vandalism loser.
No conspiracy, no advanced knowledge. Just a kid with a random idea and absolutely perfect timing.
Originally Posted by alfieb
Reply With Quote
