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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaquille View Post
    Hahaha true true, also do you have any opinion regarding the haplogroups found in the Dutch Caribbean?
    Well yes, to be frank im quite surprised that there is such high amount of european haplogroups there.

    "Maternal Haplogroups," H6a1b= 23 fuckin ppl, and its european in origin. that definitely surprised me cuz i assumed there'd be alot more ppl with african mtDNA's like i do
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhalasi View Post
    Well yes, to be frank im quite surprised that there is such high amount of european haplogroups there.

    "Maternal Haplogroups," H6a1b= 23 fuckin ppl, and its european in origin. that definitely surprised me cuz i assumed there'd be alot more ppl with african mtDNA's like i do
    Believe me that this will change if more people will test, because I definitely believe that African mtdna and Amerindian mtdna will be higher then European mtdna. But I am not so surprised about the European mtdna, since there has been many European families living since colonial time in the Dutch Caribbean, despite Euro males intermixing with the African and Native females. Also since interracial marriages were never forbidden, as long as the African and Native females were Christian.

    Some came with their wives from Europe (since the euro population was diverse as the African one) and some intermarried or had sexual relationships with the locals.

    Only the Elite, which mainly consisted of predominantly Dutch ancestry wanted to remain pure white. But they would occasionally marry someone who may have distant non-white ancestry from either the islands, or Venezuela.

    The same with the Sephardic Jews, they also spreaded their genes like everyone else but they also kept to themselves to some extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaquille View Post
    New haplogroups added: mtdna K1a4a1a, mtdna J1c3a, ydna R-L21, ydna I-M438, mtdna L3e2b1a, Q-M346 and R-M405, U5a1a (mtDNA), R-M269, L3e2b (mtDNA), T-M70 today.

    Total:
    17 European yDNAs. 2 Asian yDNAs 0 Amerindian yDNAs, 0 African yDNAs, 1 MENA yDNAs. Not that diverse (not surprised).

    6 Amerindian mtDNAs, 11 European mtDNAs, 15 Sub-Saharan African mtDNA's, and still 1 mtDNA which could be of either North African or Sub-Saharan origin. Very diverse, but again not surprised.
    At the bolded part - I'm really suprised by that. 0 men with SSA Y-DNA!? I suppose when you get more samples, we'll see that change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Hand View Post
    At the bolded part - I'm really suprised by that. 0 men with SSA Y-DNA!? I suppose when you get more samples, we'll see that change.
    Definitely, It may not be predominantly but African ydnas are definitely there. Can't wait to see those! I have always found African ydnas very interesting. Wonder how many men will carry African yDNa's.

    I wonder which African yDNAS will be found

    Ps: Your mtdna has also been found, but I think that the guy has the SSA variant like you instead of the North African one. Congrats, you have a cousin in Aruba.
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    Someone else got a opinion about my spreadsheet??
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    Interesting thread, I didn't realize Dutch Carribean had such high European ydna, especially R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaquille View Post
    Someone else got a opinion about my spreadsheet??
    Yes, it seems Africans males had no ability to procreate in the colonial Dutch Antilles. They were utterly dominated.

    Belizean Kriols have 50% SSA Y-DNAs and Belizean Mestizos can even occasionally have an SSA Y-DNA.
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    78.92% African
    • 59.05% West-African
    • 8.36% Central-African_HG
    • 3.32% East-African_HG
    • 2.22% Nilotic
    • 2.11% Omotic(?)
    • 1.78% Sahelian
    • 1.05% South-African_HG
    • 1.03% Kushitic(?)

    11.84% West Eurasian
    • 3.79% North-Sea_Germanic
    • 2.15% East-Euro
    • 1.39% Scando-Germanic
    • 1.26% Paleo-Balkan
    • 0.88% Central-Med
    • 0.54% NW-Indian(?)
    • 0.42% East-Iberian
    • 0.39% Baltic
    • 0.14% West-Med
    • 0.17% North-Iberian
    • 0.02% East-Med

    9.92% Native/Indigenous to Americas
    • 4.59% Meso-Amerind
    • 2.14% Amazonian
    • 2.01% Andean
    • 1.15% North-Amerind
    • 0.02% South-Indian(?)
    • 0.01% Tibetan(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgbk87 View Post
    Yes, it seems Africans males had no ability to procreate in the colonial Dutch Antilles. They were utterly dominated.

    Belizean Kriols have 50% SSA Y-DNAs and Belizean Mestizos can even occasionally have an SSA Y-DNA.
    Hmm, I do believe that it will change when there are more people willingly to test, but it would be strange if African males couldn't re-produce? Not saying that it will be the dominant ydna, but at least it would be significant. Don't know.

    Damn 50%!? I would suspect way less, I know that the Garifuna people would have like almost 100% SSA ydna since their ethnic group was created via African males intermarrying with Amerindian females. But didn't knew that from Kriols and Mestizos.
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    Yes I am sure we will find some African Y-DNA in the Dutch Antilles, but the current information is quite telling. Also, I suspect that the less SSA individuals are the ones being tested?

    Garifunas have majority SSA Y-DNAs, but some have Native ones as well!

    Kriols have probably even levels of SSA and Euro Y-DNA, with some having native ones as well.

    Mestizos have mostly Euro and MENA Y-DNA, with some Native, and occasional SSA Y-DNA.
    K=47 Results
    78.92% African
    • 59.05% West-African
    • 8.36% Central-African_HG
    • 3.32% East-African_HG
    • 2.22% Nilotic
    • 2.11% Omotic(?)
    • 1.78% Sahelian
    • 1.05% South-African_HG
    • 1.03% Kushitic(?)

    11.84% West Eurasian
    • 3.79% North-Sea_Germanic
    • 2.15% East-Euro
    • 1.39% Scando-Germanic
    • 1.26% Paleo-Balkan
    • 0.88% Central-Med
    • 0.54% NW-Indian(?)
    • 0.42% East-Iberian
    • 0.39% Baltic
    • 0.14% West-Med
    • 0.17% North-Iberian
    • 0.02% East-Med

    9.92% Native/Indigenous to Americas
    • 4.59% Meso-Amerind
    • 2.14% Amazonian
    • 2.01% Andean
    • 1.15% North-Amerind
    • 0.02% South-Indian(?)
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