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Thread: Is there a diference between Sudanid and Congoloid features?3234 days old

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    Sudanid:

    [imglink]http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-sudanid.jpg[/imglink]



    SUDANID


    Negrid
    subtype. The "standard
    Negrid",
    associated with the general area extending from Senegambia to central Sudan.
    Sudanids are tall, broad-shouldered,
    robust and
    muscular, and are characterized by
    prognathism,
    extremely broad and inflated noses with flattened nasal roots, and
    characteristically bulging lips. The
    skull is long
    and narrow (
    c.i. 73 -
    77), high-vaulted, with a strongly projecting
    occipital region.
    The forehead is steep and narrow, and the face is large and rather long. The
    mouth is quite large, and the ears are small. The chin is weak, and sometimes
    receding. The skin color is rather dark.


    Congoid:
    [imglink]http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/paleo-negrid.jpg[/imglink]


    PALEO-NEGRID
    (Palaenegrid (German sp.))
    Negrid subtype. The reduced product of interbreeding
    between Negrids and Bambutids. Paleo-Negrids are
    characterized by medium to small stature, relatively long trunks, short arms
    and legs, broad build, short necks and small hands and feet. The head is round
    and relatively brachycephalic, with vaulted to
    slightly rounded occiput. The face is wide and
    relatively low - with men it often approaches a square shape, whereas with
    women it is usually more rounded. The zygomatic bones are protruding,
    the nose is small, broad and low-rooted with fleshy, vaulted nostrils, the jaw
    is prognathous, the chin weak and the lips thick. Beard and body hair growth is
    often stronger than with other races. The hair is dense, frizzy, short and
    black. The skin is thick and dark brown, the lips blue-reddish. The eyes are
    dark-brown.



    ---------- Post added 2011-06-01 at 03:34 ----------

    I do seem to have Pale-negrid and Sudanid in my African side, as i see some of both pheno in mine.

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    ^ Coon's book on African phenotypes was so limited. Africa is way more diverse than that.
    Here's my take on African phenotypes.

    Sudanid(West Africa)

    http://www.freewebs.com/jalikebba/jali%20056.jpg

    Sahelid(West/Central African Sahel)

    http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6...erqgo1_500.jpg

    Paleonegrid(Gulf of guinea)

    http://74.54.19.227/GHP/img/pics/81286808.jpg

    Igboid(Eastern Nigeria, Cameroon)

    http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Osi-Umenyiora4.jpg

    Bantuid(Central thru South Africa)

    http://newlifeglobalministries.org/S...thAfrica-S.jpg

    Athepoid(Horn of Africa)

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...509338_afp.jpg

    Nilotid(Southern Sudan, Uganda, Kenya)

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpOVQ2glpc...00/SS.Lual.jpg

    Sanid (Southern Africa)

    http://www.zanzibartrading.com/image...hmenfamily.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboyclem View Post
    ^ Coon's book on African phenotypes was so limited. It was basically Sudanid, Athepoid, Nilotoid Kafrid/Bantuid, and Paleonegrid.

    Here's my take on African phenotypes.

    Sudanid(West Africa)

    http://lh3.ggpht.com/_laNRXzQqm0w/SA...2247%20(2).jpg

    Sahelid(West/Central African Sahel)

    http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6...erqgo1_500.jpg

    Paleonegrid(Gulf of guinea)

    http://74.54.19.227/GHP/img/pics/81286808.jpg

    Igboid(Eastern Nigeria, Cameroon)

    http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Osi-Umenyiora4.jpg

    Bantuid(Central thru South Africa)

    http://newlifeglobalministries.org/S...thAfrica-S.jpg

    Athepoid(Horn of Africa)

    http://ethiovision.com/wp-content/up...u-Getachew.jpg

    Nilotid(Southern Sudan, Uganda, Kenya)

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpOVQ2glpc...00/SS.Lual.jpg

    Sanid (Southern Africa)

    http://www.zanzibartrading.com/image...hmenfamily.jpg
    You shoudl have done a thread about this and ask the mod for sticky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jibarodepr View Post
    You shoudl have done a thread about this and ask the mod for sticky.
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboyclem View Post
    ^ Coon's book on African phenotypes was so limited. Africa is way more diverse than that.
    Here's my take on African phenotypes.

    Sudanid(West Africa)

    http://www.freewebs.com/jalikebba/jali%20056.jpg

    Sahelid(West/Central African Sahel)

    http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6...erqgo1_500.jpg

    Paleonegrid(Gulf of guinea)

    http://74.54.19.227/GHP/img/pics/81286808.jpg

    Igboid(Eastern Nigeria, Cameroon)

    http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Osi-Umenyiora4.jpg

    Bantuid(Central thru South Africa)

    http://newlifeglobalministries.org/S...thAfrica-S.jpg

    Athepoid(Horn of Africa)

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...509338_afp.jpg

    Nilotid(Southern Sudan, Uganda, Kenya)

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpOVQ2glpc...00/SS.Lual.jpg

    Sanid (Southern Africa)

    http://www.zanzibartrading.com/image...hmenfamily.jpg
    On point! I'd say, howver, that this is a better representative of Paleonegrid: low cranium, heavy brow, broad face.

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    The igboid, sudanid, bantuid and paleonegrid are attractive.

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    I work with MANY Sudanese and NONE of them look like the "Sudanid." They all look "Nilotid." I have been very curious about their phenotypes, and as I was going down the list I kept thinking "Ugh, where is my friend William! (a very typical Nilotid)" then..when I came across Nilotid..I thought..."Woah. There he is!" haha.

    Theyre all very tall, thin. Dark, dark skin. Rectangle heads. What exactly IS Nilotid? Where did they come from? What is their background??

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    Quote Originally Posted by heykissmytuchus View Post
    I work with MANY Sudanese and NONE of them look like the "Sudanid." They all look "Nilotid." I have been very curious about their phenotypes, and as I was going down the list I kept thinking "Ugh, where is my friend William! (a very typical Nilotid)" then..when I came across Nilotid..I thought..."Woah. There he is!" haha.

    Theyre all very tall, thin. Dark, dark skin. Rectangle heads. What exactly IS Nilotid? Where did they come from? What is their background??
    Funny, I was just thinking to myself, "why do they call them Sudanid if most Sudanese are not Sudanid?". Well yes Nilotids are usually thin and long (stereotypical runners body). Not always tall though, they range, but they are also usually very dark brown, giving the appearance of being black. I wouldn't call most Arab Sudanese Nilotid though, they seem more mixed (Nubian, Arab, Nilote maybe?) but Nilotids are usually those speaking Nilotic languages. The Masai, and Luo are good examples.

    the name is derived from the Nile valley

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_peoples

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    Quote Originally Posted by heykissmytuchus View Post
    I work with MANY Sudanese and NONE of them look like the "Sudanid." They all look "Nilotid." I have been very curious about their phenotypes, and as I was going down the list I kept thinking "Ugh, where is my friend William! (a very typical Nilotid)" then..when I came across Nilotid..I thought..."Woah. There he is!" haha.
    The term 'Sudanid' is bit of a misnomer, it refers to the most common West African phenotype rather than what is common in Sudan. Historically Arabs refered to the southern fringe of the Sahara stretching from present-day Senegal to Sudan as "Bilad al Sudan" (Land of the Blacks) and the name stuck only recently with the modern republic. Sudan itself was known as Funj, Nuba, Sennaar, Kordofan, Darfur, etc

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