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    http://www.slate.com/id/2284198/

    Shocking history that makes me think that any ideology without compassion at its core is doomed to commit more misery upon humanity.

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    Ive read the article and I find it interesting, to be honest it’s the first time I hear about the famines in ukrain. But I cannot say that I am totally convinced that it was all part of a greater plan that stalin had made.

    at least not by the article or by the page on Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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    Evidence of widespread cannibalism was documented during the Holodomor.[55] The Soviet regime printed posters declaring: "To eat your own children is a barbarian act."[56] More than 2500 people were convicted of cannibalism during the Holodomor.[57][
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    Quote Originally Posted by ageladakos View Post
    But I cannot say that I am totally convinced that it was all part of a greater plan that stalin had made.
    I would strongly suggest starting with movie "Soviet Story". To bo leeched by torrents as I do not believe it is somewhere to buy.

    Link to this movie info at IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1305871/

    It's where all of middle and eastern europe was sentenced to by allies to for 50 years of imprisonment after WWII (much of those nations was on allied side).

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    The Holodomor was a combination of planned extermination and incompetence. Around 6 million people starved to death, while living on some of the most fertile farmland in the world. Rich peasants deliberately chose to burn the crops and slaughter the livestock in order to prevent collectivization. Once they made that choice, famine was inevitable.

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    Brief Intro about Holodomor:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silk View Post
    (...) Rich peasants deliberately chose to burn the crops and slaughter the livestock in order to prevent collectivization. Once they made that choice, famine was inevitable.
    Blaming kulaks? Interesting choice for a self proclaimed far-rightist. Now the producer, the saint owner of means of production, the enterpreneur is to be blamed? Zdrastvuyte Tavarischtch!

    The "liquidation of the kulaks as a class" was announced by Joseph Stalin on 27 December 1929.[1] Stalin had said that "Now we have the opportunity to carry out a resolute offensive against the kulaks, break their resistance, eliminate them as a class and replace their production with the production of kolkhozes and sovkhozes."[4] The decision was formalized in a resolution "On measures for the elimination of kulak households in districts of comprehensive collectivization" on 30 January 1930. All kulaks were divided into three categories: (I) to be shot or imprisoned as decided by the local secret political police; (II) to be sent to Siberia, North, the Urals or Kazakhstan, after confiscation of their property; and (III) to be evicted from their houses and used in labour colonies within their own districts.[1] OGPU secret police chief Efim Georgievich Evdokimov (1891–1939) organized and supervised the roundup of peasants and the mass executions.
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    Similar great famine happened in China 10-12 years after communist take-over:

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    The Three Years of Great Chinese Famine (simplified Chinese: 三年大饥荒; traditional Chinese: 三年大饑荒; pinyin: Sānnián dà jīhuāng), referred to by the Communist Party of China as the Three Years of Natural Disasters (simplified Chinese: 三年自然灾害; traditional Chinese: 三年自然災害; pinyin: Sānnián zìrán zāihài), the Three Years of Difficulty (simplified Chinese: 三年困难时期; traditional Chinese: 三年困難時期; pinyin: Sānnián kùnnán shíqī) or Great Leap Forward Famine, was a period in the People's Republic of China between the years 1959 and 1961 characterized by widespread famine. Drought, poor weather, and the policies of the Communist Party of China contributed to the famine, although the relative weights of the contributions are disputed due to the Great Leap Forward.
    According to government statistics, there were 15 million excess deaths in this period. However, the Chinese government at this time was taken over by market reformers who were strongly opposed to the Great Leap Forward.[2] Unofficial estimates vary, but scholars have estimated the number of famine victims to be between 20 and 43 million.[3] Historian Frank Dikötter, having been granted special access to Chinese archival materials, estimates that there were at least 45 million premature deaths from 1958 to 1962, although far from all these deaths came about as a result of starvation.[4][5]
    Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng concluded there were 36 million deaths due to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that "China's total population loss during the Great Famine then comes to 76 million."[6] The term "Three Bitter Years" is often used by Chinese peasants to refer to this period.[7]

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    ^ Mają rozmach, skurwysyny*!

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    It is a well established truth that Socialism always results in misery, famine and cannibalism. We saw it in Soviet, there are reports about cannibalism in North Korea too and the phenomenon is soon to appear in Venezuela too.

    As a the Libertarian I am, I often bring this fact up in debates, but my opponents often think i am just exaggerating and trying to be funny when I say that Socialism always results in cannibalism.

    I really don't see why this would be surprising to anyone.
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