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    Quote Originally Posted by Ieez1 View Post
    Some people told me Hitler considered Eastern Europeans inferior, because he thought the population there was mixed with Mongol blood. In addition, almost none have blue eyes and hardly any have naturally blonde hair.

    Is that true?

    I have been on Russian and Ukraine dating websites before, a lot of women on them looked Asian, blonde ones too, but not all of them.

    Why did Hitler consider Eastern Europeans inferior?

    This topic made me remember one interesting interview with an American historian Liulavicius. Things he say probably haven't been mentioned here.

    - We know that Hitler and nazis viewed Eastern Europe as a living-space for their nation, there was possibilty of killing the natives. Is such view is specifically nazist or had it been formed through centuries?
    - I argument (in my book) that nazis plans in Eastern Europe were partially formed by earlier influences. Their plans were a radicalized version of earlier - 19th c or 22th c. beginning - swings to create utopias. Nazis took over the early views on Eastern Europe and added radical racism and antisemitism.
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    From 19th c. beginning Germans viwed Eastern Europe as a distinct world, "Der osten", whichc had a lot potential and threat for germans. So Eastern Europe was a paradox - attractive and at the same time repellent , dangerous.

    -How did E. Europe attracted Germany, why did "the myth of the East" formed?
    - E. Europe very strongly fugured in developing german self-awareness conception, other words, the way how they realized their national identity. Because Germany was politically united only in 19th c. beginning (whereas for example Great Britain, France or Russia were united way earlier), Geran nationalism often emphasized cultural values which had to unite Germans despite political borders of different kingdoms.
    German nationalists stated that Germany is in cultural highland, they emphasized this by stating there practically are no culture in E. Europe and even of there were it was a heritage of earliel German immigration. Through 19 c. emerged a belief that Germany has an exceptional national calling - bring culture to the Eastern deserts.

    - You have written in your book that E. Europe for Germany was sort of Wild West. Could you explain this?
    - In 19th c. end the imperialism of the most powerful European countried was established. Quickly almost all Agrican continent and a big part of Asia were divided. At the time Germany only relatively late joined this movement, that's why Germany searcged compensation nearlier home - in Europe.
    Similarly like USA expanding tpwards the West, German nazis imagined that in E. Europe there should be a lot of possibilities.

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    The real reason is because they were the only ones whom dared to challenge Hitler by refusing to bow when told to. In the multi-composite government of Yugoslavia before the war broke out, the Croatians had the largest influence in the decision making process, however, the Serbian politicians were anti-Nazi and never agreed to what Hitler was getting up to. Unfortunately however, the Croatians had different idea's as they were pro-Nazi. As far as they were concerned, Hitler was king, so, when Hitler ordered their Royal Prince to pay his respects in Berlin, the Serbian officer Corp pulled the plug on this planned visit by the prince and deposed him outright, to be replaced by another prince only 17 years old albeit of royal stock after which they wasted no time in celebrating the event on a rather large scale throughout Belgrade. Put short, they had sent a message to Berlin 'to get-nicked' to put it mildly which infuriated the Fuehrer to the point of no return. As you well know, more than one country had already been 'bullied' by Hitler prior to the war breaking out proper with the threat that if they did not 'back-down' on his demands to at least toe the Nazi line they would have to accept the consequence of facing a forced take-over ultimately creating a blood-bath.
    Czechoslovakia was a prime example of this, the transition of the Nazis taking over in that country
    had not gone without incident, although bloodless, Hitler had threatened the aged president of the country pretty bad leading up to it, telling him he either signed it all over to him or he could side with him at the balcony (The Czechoslovakian leader was visiting Hitler in Berlin at the time) in the hope of catching the sound effects of his countries Capitol City being literally leveled by Nazi bombers that were converging on his home ground as they were speaking. The shock of it all caused the aged President from the threatened country to almost have a heart attack right there after learning about this outrage and whilst doing so, the likes of Hitler and three of his closest associates (Herman Georing) being one of them could not avoid the laughter and offer no more than a glass of water for him.
    But the Serbian act of defying Hitler in such a manner did not come without a high price, Hitler was not just angry, he was livid with rage. Hitler immediately canceled the 'Barbarossa' operation to invade Russia on a temporary basis and ordered his generals to converge into Yugoslavia with the specific instruction to teach those Slav's once and for all who is in charge. The assault was brutal and unforgiving, people were literally hanged of the Belgrade street lamp posts by the Nazis after they entered the country and the atrocities were countless. The Serbians were brave in defying Hitler
    but one would have to ask the question, was it wise to do so given that they were vastly out-
    numbered against the Nazi armed forces?

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    Czechs are Mongols, but its visible only when they have mustaches (according to Mary quoting Adolf Hitler).
    Take pic of a Czech, put muctaches on- Mongol.
    What to do with Vaclav Havel though, he already has mustaches- glue on another set???

    ---------- Post added 2012-04-08 at 15:01 ----------

    btw to the subject, Hitler an Nazi disliked Poles, Czechs etc largely cause they were resisting being dominated by Germans (germanised). No surprise there was a resentment growing, especially during uniting Germany. Their cultures were less advanced, instead of being thankfull they resisted ( German settlers in Poland, Bohemia, Slovakia etc lived already in 12-th century). Obviously, Germans had large impact on medieval eastern Europe, noone questions that, but they never managed to make it own land and it was probably a large contributor to create racist theories to separate 'traitors'.
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    Mein Gott. Ze ignoranz ist astounding. Ze policy towards ze Mongol East vass entirely on POLITICAL grounds. Ze Slavs made good Nazis! Otto Skorzeny, Odilo Globocnik, Walter Nowotny... just some of zee Slavic (Untermensch) who loyally served zee Führer.

    I blame zee Yankee edJewcational system. *Mussolini fist shake*

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    Even by the standards of German science before WW2, the Slavs were Aryans. German anthropologists seemed perfectly aware of this. The Nazi propaganda about the "racial inferiority of the Slavs" was the product of purely political.

    "Slavic racial inferiority" did not prevent Hitler an alliance with the Croats, Bulgarians and Romanians. Until April 1939, Joachim von Ribbentrop tried to persuade Poland to the alliance with Hitler. When Poland finally refused, Hitler gave the order, the preparation of aggression to the east of the part of propaganda. Then stepped up a propaganda slogan of "Slavic racial inferiority."

    Just as happened during the Barbarossa. In this case, also appeared in the propaganda that the Russians are a some mixture of Slavic / mongoloid. This was to justify the aggression. But again it did not prevent Hitler, an alliance of 100% mongoloid Japanese.

    It is interesting that before WW2 german scientists were ordered to prove that in Germany there is much more pure Aryans - Nordic type (tall slim blond with blue eyes and model body and skull) than in the Slavic Poland. There has been some extensive research and ... results have become a top secret. It turned out that such a person in Germany is 9% and in Poland 11%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtkristall View Post
    Ze Slavs made good Nazis! Otto Skorzeny, Odilo Globocnik, Walter Nowotny... just some of zee Slavic (Untermensch) who loyally served zee Führer.
    Do not forget Erich von Manstein (Erich von Lewinski) and general Nikolaus von Falkenhorst (von Jastrzembski - commander in the Norwegian campaign) who were of Polish origin

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    Agreed. This ridiculous Polish blood libel is disgusting.

    Poland already stole Danzig, Pommern, Schlesien, and other lands they had no business taking.

    If anything, Poland owes Germany and not the other way around.


    Quote Originally Posted by WIKIPEDIA
    Mass execution of Poles in Piaśnica (Groß Piasnitz) in the Darzlubska Wilderness (Polish Pomerania) conducted by nazi Germans. The picture was taken by Waldemar Engler - volksdeutscher from Wejherowo and member of the SS (he was photographer in civilian life) Prints of photos that he made in Piaśnica were stolen by his Polish workers.
    The movie about this German crime:



    Quote Originally Posted by WIKIPEDIA
    Intelligenzaktion Pommern

    The Intelligenzaktion Pommern[1][2][3][4] was a Nazi German operation aimed at the eradication of the Polish intelligentsia in Pomeranian Voivodeship and the surrounding areas at the beginning of World War II. It was part of a larger genocidal Intelligenzaktion,[5][6] that took place across most of Nazi-occupied western Poland in the course of Operation Tannenberg (Unternehmen Tannenberg),[7] purposed to install Nazi officials from Sipo, Kripo, Gestapo and SD at the helm of a new administrative machine.[6]

    On the direct orders of Adolf Hitler carried out by Reinhard Heydrich's bureau of Referat Tannenberg along with Heinrich Himmler's SS-RSHA (Main Security Office), Poles from among intelligentsia and elites were rounded up,[7] and executed without any due process by the SS-Einsatzgruppen in dozens of remote locations such as the forest massacres in Piaśnica and the cavernous Valley of Death.[8] Starting right after the invasion in September 1939,[7] with a second wave in the spring of 1940,[9] these actions were an early measure of the German Generalplan Ost colonization.
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    Even before the Nazi invasion of Poland, German police and Gestapo cooperated with the German minority in Poland to prepare special lists of Poles "Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen" whom they regarded as representative of Polish government, administration, culture and life in the region. People on this list were called ""The enemies of Reich" and were designated to be executed.[14] According to official criteria, the Polish "intelligentsia" included anyone with a middle school or higher education, priests, teachers, doctors, dentists, veterinarians, veteran military officers, bureaucrats, members of Polish administration, police, medium and large businessmen and merchants, medium and large landowners, writers, journalists and newspaper editors.[14] Furthermore, all persons who during the interwar period had belonged to many Polish cultural and patriotic organizations such as Polski Związek Zachodni (pl) or Polish Union of the West, Związek Obrony Kresów Zachodnich, Polish Gymnastic Society "Falcon" and Maritime and Colonial League.[14]

    Between the fall of 1939 and spring of 1940, in the Intelligenzaktion and other actions, the Nazis killed around 100,000 Polish intellectuals and other prominent citizens, 61,000 of whom came from special lists.[6] The main site of these murders were the forests around Wielka Piasnica.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion_Pommern

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac..._Pia%C5%9Bnica



    I believe all Germans should be periodically examined by psychiatrists in order to preemptively detect genocidal tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ieez1 View Post
    Some people told me Hitler considered Eastern Europeans inferior, because he thought the population there was mixed with Mongol blood. In addition, almost none have blue eyes and hardly any have naturally blonde hair.

    Is that true?
    @ all the lies the average Joe believes.

    He didn't like them because of political reasons. Nothing more nothing less.
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