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    Default Genetic relationship in East Asia

    I apologise for creating 'lazy thread' as I could probably read 27 articles online in three days and find it myself, but- I am interested in more precise genetic smilarity and distances of east Asian populations of China, Korea, Japan, Mongolia, plus maybe Vietnam for comparison.

    I am aware that Chinese is group far from being homogenous, but I would say in general, plus two Koreans, how it relate to Japan too. If someone could brief it I would be grateful.

    I wonder if 'genetic distances' are as close as in Europe between those populations, lets say Koreans and Japaneese people are as far apart as Germans and French, or maybe a bit further like apart, like Norwegians and Greeks.

    ps and Korea, people of South and North Korea, apart from being separated politically on the last century, do they differ somehow significantly?
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    Chinese, Japanese and Korean populations seem to be quite homogeneous and similar to each other. Here are some Dienekes blog entries:



    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/07...n-genetic.html


    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/07...ung-et-al.html

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    East Asians seem to be much more similar to each other than Europeans (it can be seen at 23andMe where quite distant geographically from each other East Asians will be probably more similar to each other than two Europeans originating from the same country).

    Probably due to lower genetic diversity overall (the more you move away from the African cradle the more diverisity you lose, as each time only a subset of population migrates taking with it only a subset of genetic variation).

    From Eurafrican point of view they are like clones. Probably this the reason they are much more socialised than Europeans (not to mention Africans).
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    [imglink]http://i48.tinypic.com/2dv97y9.jpg[/imglink]

    [imglink]http://i56.tinypic.com/21cshas.jpg[/imglink]

    Japanese and Korean are closer to each other than what they want to admit ( It is usually Japanese who frown upon it). While Northern Chinese branch off even further. Southern Chinese is totally in different ball game.

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    ps and Korea, people of South and North Korea, apart from being separated politically on the last century, do they differ somehow significantly?
    I read somewhere that Northern part of Korea peninsular is more tungid while central part is more sinid influence and the southern part is slightly more paleo-mongoloid. I will upload the graph if I stumble upon it again.

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    Waaaaah? seriously? it's not homogeneous as you guys think it is.

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    It's pretty much the way nobody in Asia want's it to be. CHinese are pulled much closer to South East Asian "dogs" than they would want. And Koreans and Japanese are almost family, and they absolutely hate each other.
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    not too many chinese samples.
    So Philippinnos, Malasyans and Indonesiand are practically very simiar- thats what i thought, howeveer Malaysia seems to pull apart and be quite diversed, interesting. I know Malaysia has significant ethnically chinese population, maybe thats why? I am surprised to see some chineese samples being so apart, is it maybe southern-western China and Tibet?
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    Neither Filipinos nor Indonesians are homogenous within and in themselves,so I fail to see how they are "very similair".

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    Quote Originally Posted by upyours View Post
    Neither Filipinos nor Indonesians are homogenous within and in themselves,so I fail to see how they are "very similair".
    Similar in larger context, not similar like twins. I was talking about the plot and about my impression that, despite variety, they belong to one sub-group.
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwestos View Post
    Similar in larger context, not similar like twins. I was talking about the plot and about my impression that, despite variety, they belong to one sub-group.
    there are many subgroups in both Indonesia and Philippines...how do they all belong to one subgroup??

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