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  • all Latin America is part of the west

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  • some countries are 'western' and some are not

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  • Latin America is not western at all

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    When I think of "western" what comes to mind is America, Canada and Western Europe and that's pretty much it. Maybe Australia even though they're technically not western geographically. I think Latin America is its own sphere.
    Last edited by Wickedgirl; 2012-03-15 at 15:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wickedgirl View Post
    When I think of "western" what comes to mind is America, Canada and Western Europe and that's pretty much it. Maybe Australia even though they're technically not western geographically.
    its the case when you take into consideration culture, economy and politics, in addition- in 2012. If you go back to 1912 some western European countries were as same or more backwards than some areas of Latin America.
    Also, why Spanish and Italians in Argentina cannot be western, but can be in Spain and Italy? Also- if not western- whats then? How would you classify Latin America?(I exclude Bolivia or Peru, which have very pronounced Indian and Asian influence, but lets say Argentina or Uruguay).
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    Some Euros living in Latin America are Westerners.
    A few cities or townships inhabited by an European majority could be considered Westerner.

    But Latin America, as a whole, is definitely not westerner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aregint View Post
    Some Euros living in Latin America are Westerners.
    A few cities or townships inhabited by an European majority could be considered Westerner.

    But Latin America, as a whole, is definitely not westerner.
    so you would option- some aountries/area s are, some are not.
    I share this view too.
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    For me to being Western is to live the culture, not to be of the Euro race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jibarodepr View Post
    For me to being Western is to live the culture, not to be of the Euro race.
    Save a few countries our cultures are as mixed as our race.
    I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jibarodepr View Post
    For me to being Western is to live the culture, not to be of the Euro race.
    Well, if you took only race into account, you would have to cross off Bill Cosby and even Barack Obama from western culture.

    Some areas, like eg Netherland or France, are the essence of both common perception and technical perception of 'the west', tick all the boxes to be 'western'- they are rich now, they have been rich for the last 200 years, they have no other culture, they are the root of the west, their population is european, etc etc.
    Some are 'basically western' like USA or Spain, some are borderline, like Russia or Latin America, and some are not western at all, like China or India etc.

    I believe this borderline case is the wider area and its also the widest to speculate. The problem with the tag 'western' is that due to both some objective reasons (eg wealth, democracy) well as as propaganda too, it is automatically considered 'better', or 'default good' and its hard to step out if this logic and think objectively. Within this logic some non-western will make up or exagareta their 'westerness' while some westerners will diminish or negate the same 'westerness', while it shoudl be debated like other things, with no bias.
    Am I right or am I wrong?

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    "The West" is the places where the ancient customs of Rome and Greece were preserved and fostered, where critical thinking survived. That region corresponds to Western Christianity, and that's the original meaning of the word 400 years ago.

    It has two supernatural views that are extremely european: 1) the belief in an afterlife with a reward for the "best" people - be it christian heaven, walhall, or the elysian fields. 2) Especially the belief in total death and anihilation of the Self. This is opposed to the eastern cycles of reincarnation.

    In music, Europe traditionally prefers harmony and Latin America prefers rhythm.

    The European is individualistic, it is not common to see gangs of Europeans, or any other kind of tribal behaivor. Also European families are (or used to be) led by the father; Latin America is more equal, almost matriarchal.


    Unfortunately the concept of Westerner is changing quickly to mean "american culture".

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    Quote Originally Posted by aregint View Post
    The European is individualistic, it is not common to see gangs of Europeans, or any other kind of tribal behaivor.
    Unlike euro neo-nazis who ae tribal too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwestos View Post
    its the case when you take into consideration culture, economy and politics, in addition- in 2012. If you go back to 1912 some western European countries were as same or more backwards than some areas of Latin America.
    Also, why Spanish and Italians in Argentina cannot be western, but can be in Spain and Italy? Also- if not western- whats then? How would you classify Latin America?(I exclude Bolivia or Peru, which have very pronounced Indian and Asian influence, but lets say Argentina or Uruguay).
    The main "western" countries are America, Canada, Great Britain, France and Germany and probably other parts of western Europe. I wouldn't consider any parts of Latin America "western" because their culture and everything is a lot different from "western" culture which is mostly based on Anglo and Northern European values.

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