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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Cool story bro.
    Just typical nationalistic BS. NW Iran is the homeland of Azeris and Kurds, South Georgia of Georgians, Eastern Anatolia of Assyrians in some parts, Azerbaijan of Azeris (as well as Caucasian Albanians). But its hard to expect more given how many individuals seem to think Armenia and not the Pontic Caspian Steepe is the IE homeland,

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    Just typical nationalistic BS. NW Iran is the homeland of Azeris and Kurds, South Georgia of Georgians, Eastern Anatolia of Assyrians in some parts, Azerbaijan of Azeris (as well as Caucasian Albanians). But its hard to expect more given how many individuals seem to think Armenia and not the Pontic Caspian Steepe is the IE homeland,
    Armenians do have solid claim on part of Anatolia and a very small part of modern Georgia but not as much as some Armenian nationalists wish
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    Lets took than the Iberian peninsula, 8 distant groups of IE was there Celtici Lusitanians Greeks Vandals Suevi Alani Goths and Italic people, only haplogroup G2a have there so many subgroups.
    The R1a have only one sugroup there the R1a1a1g2* and it is almost absent in that region
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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    No. Sorry If I refuse to call native Assyrian, Iranian (old azari and azeri speakers), Azeri (and their caucasian albanian) and Georgian lands Armenian areas. No evidence that those people aren't native to those lands.
    Well, you are free to call things the way you prefer, but I just pointed to the fact that whole geographical term encompassing that area is Armenian Highland, that's about geography. And as I noted there was a political reason for the change of that term into Eastern Anatolia, in case when Anatolia itself means East, so you have a new term Eastern East with which I disagree. And it does not mean that Iranians aren't mostly natives of today's Iran, or Assyrians of former Assyria, or Georgians of today's Georgia, of course I never meant it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Armenians do have solid claim on part of Anatolia and a very small part of modern Georgia but not as much as some Armenian nationalists wish
    Which parts?

    But really no claim on Azerbaijan or Iran imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huri View Post
    Well, you are free to call things the way you prefer, but I just pointed to the fact that whole geographical term encompassing that area is Armenian Highland, that's about geography. And as I noted there was a political reason for the change of that term into Eastern Anatolia, in case when Anatolia itself means East, so you have a new term Eastern East with which I disagree. And it does not mean that Iranians aren't mostly natives of today's Iran, or Assyrians of former Assyria, or Georgians of today's Georgia, of course I never meant it.
    It just sounded like you were trying to make those areas originally Armenian. If you were just saying those areas share geography and not trying to lay a claim to those lands then I am sorry for the accusations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    Which parts?

    But really no claim on Azerbaijan or Iran imo.
    ahahaha for God's sake, this is not about claims on lands is this the first time you hear that Northern Iran is geographically in the Armenian Highland? it does not make the population there Armenians or that Armenians are going to invade those lands loool

    If you read at least, you would see the definition of that term from Britannica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    Which parts?

    But really no claim on Azerbaijan or Iran imo.

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    Javakheti/Javakh historical province (marked by Salad colour):



    As for Azeris - Armenians are native to most of Nagorny Karabkh but not to occupied territories around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George1 View Post
    Lets took than the Iberian peninsula, 8 distant groups of IE was there Celtici Lusitanians Greeks Vandals Suevi Alani Goths and Italic people, only haplogroup G2a have there so many subgroups.
    The R1a have only one sugroup there the R1a1a1g2* and it is almost absent in that region
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamil Noukhaev aka ROnald Mcdonald View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huri View Post
    ahahaha for God's sake, this is not about claims on lands is this the first time you hear that Northern Iran is geographically in the Armenian Highland? it does not make the population there Armenians or that Armenians are going to invade those lands loool

    If you read at least, you would see the definition of that term from Britannica.
    Its also the first time I heard that about Georgia and Azerbaijan. I am pretty sure most of Northern Iran lies in the Iranian plateau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Javakheti/Javakh historical province (marked by Salad colour):



    As for Azeris - Armenians are native to most of Nagorny Karabkh but not to occupied territories around it.
    What about Iranian and Anatolian territories? So very little claim on Azerbaijan then?

    How can they be native to a landlocked region in another country with no border with Armenia?
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    well, newtoboard, Armenians have absolutely righteous claims on the so-called Eastern Anatolia or Eastern Turkey, and it's no secret to anybody; Artsakh(Karabakh) should not even be discussed, it has always uninterruptedly been inhabited by the natives- Armenians, and 20 years ago was liberated after having been forcefully annexed for some decades to another country. Javakhq is another story, not for this thread, I never meant to make this some kind of claims on lands conversation, it's just funny, no Armenian ever has any claims on Northern Iran.
    This was about the geographical term that I prefer to use, cause I find Eastern Anatolia a false term, which substituted the previous term Armenian Highland for political reasons by Turkey.

    By the way, what's your nationality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre Organtino View Post
    Javakheti/Javakh historical province (marked by Salad colour):



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    they have wright to claim that territory? why are you so shameless
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    You guys and gals seem to be getting really off topic here. Please stop.

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