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    I think its just a matter of nomenclature that can be prevalent anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirith Ungol View Post
    Horn Africans being more racist than West Africans, North Africans, Southern Africans, or diasporic African groups is a big myth. All these groups have their prejudices, all these groups have their loudmouths. As for what Horn Africans view themselves as, well i think ethnicity or clan is more important than skin color, because it would be weird for a Saho man from Eritrea to call a Harari girl from Ethiopia 'hey black girl', because the average oerson not from the Horn probably would have a hard time guessing from which group the two people originate. So its usually:

    1) From which country are you from?
    2) To which ethnic group do you belong?
    3) What is your clan?
    4) Which city or town were you born?
    This makes sense and it follows the same patterns of self-identification found in LatinAmerica and other countries. What phenotype/skin color/racial descriptors do Horners use among themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAONABO View Post
    This makes sense and it follows the same patterns of self-identification found in LatinAmerica and other countries. What phenotype/skin color/racial descriptors do Horners use among themselves?
    I'm not sure what you mean, there are no color categories because the types of skin color/tone overlaps in each region, and within different families you can find siblings who differ in shade. If you ment something else please elaborate on your question, so i can give you a proper reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAONABO View Post
    This makes sense and it follows the same patterns of self-identification found in LatinAmerica and other countries. What phenotype/skin color/racial descriptors do Horners use among themselves?
    AFAIK, Habeshas classify themselves primarily as black, brown, red-brown or red, according to their complexion. Not unlike the blonde/brunette/redhead types of whites.
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    ^I think skin color distinctions are appropriate for obvious reasons

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    Default from a somali perspective

    Quote Originally Posted by ethioboy View Post
    Well Im not sure, Im just assuming based on the few amount of somalis I have met in the states.. If we had a somali here maybe we could get a better perspective.
    as a somali {and on behalf of somalis} I see myself as an african and black, but at the same time, we do consider ourself different from the bantu africans, {central southern and western africa} it doesnt necessarily mean in a negative way, it just means we are different in many ways, some people might be surprised but let alone our direct neighbours the Arabs or religion wise, but we as somalis have life style far more similar to that of south east Asia then our fellow sub saharan brothers, as in traditional clothings, language food as well as behaviour, if you look at somalis in europe {where I live} we are more likely to settle in asian Area's then in african..that tell you something, not that we are racist but that we feel more at home in an asian neighbour hood then an african

    about the skin, we somalis have black somalis that are as black as western africa if not more black, but they are a significant minority .. maybe one of the reasons we dont like to be grouped with western africans is because we are people that have had contact with the world before colonial times and therefor feel superior in terms of history or culture wise,

    unlike the rest of sub saharan countries we {the horn }have never been formally colonized enslaved or have had western languages or way of life forced upon us, Ethiopia never got colonized and somalis fought the longest anti colonial war in africa and succesfully pushed the british and the italians out of somali lands several times, unfotunately there were 3 european powers in somalilands, ...we take pride in our history and way of life...... even though western africa is superior today in terms of economy, ..it makes us proud to see a fellow african country doing good.............to answer the question ....I view the people from the horn as africans, from horn of africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by xaaji View Post
    {and on behalf of somalis}
    Please stick to speaking for yourself, don't you know that it is I, Cirith Ungol, Sanjub_Saraswati iyo slick willy who have that blessing. Besides your new and your somaliness must first await verification.

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    Cirith Ungol got it right, who is he btw?

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    ^Come'on Yom, in 2007 Horus passed the torch to Henu, ring a bell? Welcome back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirith Ungol View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean, there are no color categories because the types of skin color/tone overlaps in each region, and within different families you can find siblings who differ in shade. If you ment something else please elaborate on your question, so i can give you a proper reply.
    What I meant was, do Horners have desciptors for phenoytpes/skin color etc. like for example an African American calling someone a 'redbone' or high yella, etc.
    nvm, I think Voradors post answered it.

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