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    Default Empires in ancient-medieval India and migrations.

    We know that empires like the Maurya or the Guptas ruled large parts of the country.
    Are there any records or any instances pointing to migrations among people from one region to another, when invasions occurred and territories were captured. Or if migrations occurred otherwise too.
    This could point to mixing among people from various parts of the country.

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    any replies??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinb View Post
    We know that empires like the Maurya or the Guptas ruled large parts of the country.
    Are there any records or any instances pointing to migrations among people from one region to another, when invasions occurred and territories were captured. Or if migrations occurred otherwise too.
    This could point to mixing among people from various parts of the country.
    Folk from Magadha are supposed to have moved to Karnataka.

    "terrible famine occurred in Magadha in 293 B.C. and 14,000 monks under the leadership of Bhadrabahu with Candragupta Maurya moved on to the South." http://www.jainworld.com/literature/.../chapter10.asp

    We know that there were Mauryas in Konkan with their capital at Puri (dislodged by the Chalukyas) and Mauryas in Gurjara with their capital in Chittor (dislodged by the Arabs). The Mauryas also settled in Ujjain, Gandhara, and Khotan.

    The Guptas went all over too - again Karnataka (Guttal), Gurjara (Balabhi), Ujjain, and the Punjab.
    Guttal - Gutta records –
    “descendant of Chandragupta … Somavamsa, or lineage of the moon” Ujjaini-puravar-adhisvara, Patali-purava-adhisvara, Pannir-bara-ganda, Chandragupta-maharaja-adiraja-kula, etc.

    The northern Indian scripts, number system, the central asian scripts, arabic numerals all date to the Guptas.

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    Were most of the migrants kshatriyas and brahmins?
    and did people migrate to the south during when muslim invasions were taking place in the north?

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    I have heard of Hindu migration during the Muslim invasion to central India and then to South India during the early 10th century. How big this was, I am unsure. Regarding migration from Magadha to the south, looks like these people were establishing a big Jaina presence in the region which may have eventually lead to the construction at Shravanabelagola by their descendants.

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    Right..I often wonder how were people absorbed into new societies, whether these migrated people settled in villages,or in the cities and how much time did they take to completely assimilate.
    For example there's a community in Gujarat which is called "Avdhichya brahmin",they are supposed to be "from the north",though they are completely assimilated, they still have a community with a different name,slightly different customs.

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    I'm curious about the migration of Romani people from the area. We know they are most likely from Punjab, but I wonder what ... caste they were from? Outcastes seem relatively likely but there is a tradition amongst Roma that they were captured and exiled warriors. What do you think?

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    If they were warriors,they ave to be kshatriyas/rajputs from the north-west. Someone else can elaborate more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saran View Post
    Folk from Magadha are supposed to have moved to Karnataka.

    "terrible famine occurred in Magadha in 293 B.C. and 14,000 monks under the leadership of Bhadrabahu with Candragupta Maurya moved on to the South." http://www.jainworld.com/literature/.../chapter10.asp

    We know that there were Mauryas in Konkan with their capital at Puri (dislodged by the Chalukyas) and Mauryas in Gurjara with their capital in Chittor (dislodged by the Arabs). The Mauryas also settled in Ujjain, Gandhara, and Khotan.

    The Guptas went all over too - again Karnataka (Guttal), Gurjara (Balabhi), Ujjain, and the Punjab.
    Guttal - Gutta records –
    “descendant of Chandragupta … Somavamsa, or lineage of the moon” Ujjaini-puravar-adhisvara, Patali-purava-adhisvara, Pannir-bara-ganda, Chandragupta-maharaja-adiraja-kula, etc.

    The northern Indian scripts, number system, the central asian scripts, arabic numerals all date to the Guptas.
    Very interesting indeed. Are the present South Indian Brahmins descended from these people? They obviously have more ANI admixture than any other group in South. I believe some also have records of migrations from other parts of India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeywhynot View Post
    I'm curious about the migration of Romani people from the area. We know they are most likely from Punjab, but I wonder what ... caste they were from? Outcastes seem relatively likely but there is a tradition amongst Roma that they were captured and exiled warriors. What do you think?
    Warrior can be from any caste. Most soliders in army of Pratap were from Bhil tribe

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeywhynot View Post
    I'm curious about the migration of Romani people from the area. We know they are most likely from Punjab, but I wonder what ... caste they were from? Outcastes seem relatively likely but there is a tradition amongst Roma that they were captured and exiled warriors. What do you think?
    Warrior can be from any caste. Most soliders in army of Pratap were from Bhil tribe

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