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    Linguist Makes Sensational Claim: English Is a Scandinavian Language

    Nov. 27, 2012 — "Have you considered how easy it is for us Norwegians to learn English?" asks Jan Terje Faarlund, professor of linguistics at the University of Oslo. "Obviously there are many English words that resemble ours. But there is something more: its fundamental structure is strikingly similar to Norwegian. We avoid many of the usual mistakes because the grammar is more or less the same.

    Faarlund and his colleague Joseph Emmonds, visiting professor from Palacký University in the Czech Republic, now believe they can prove that English is in reality a Scandinavian language, in other words it belongs to the Northern Germanic language group, just like Norwegian, Danish, Swedish, Icelandic and Faroese. This is totally new and breaks with what other language researchers and the rest of the world believe, namely that English descends directly from Old English. Old English, or Anglo-Saxon, is a West Germanic language, which the Angles and Saxons brought with them from Northern Germany and Southern Jylland when they settled in the British Isles in the fifth century.

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    "How can you illustrate this?"
    "We can show that wherever English differs syntactically from the other Western Germanic languages -- German, Dutch, Frisian -- it has the same structure as the Scandinavian languages." Here are some examples:
    * Word order: In English and Scandinavian the object is placed after the verb:
    I have read the book.
    Eg har lese boka.
    German and Dutch (and Old English) put the verb at the end.
    Ich habe das Buch gelesen.
    * English and Scandinavian can have a preposition at the end of the sentence.
    This we have talked about.
    Dette har vi snakka om.
    * English and Scandinavian can have a split infinitive, i.e. we can insert a word between the infinitive marker and the verb.
    I promise to never do it again.
    Eg lovar å ikkje gjera det igjen.
    * Group genitive:
    The Queen of England's hat.
    Dronninga av Englands hatt.
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1127094111.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idriz View Post
    It's a brilliant claim & grammatical observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    It's a brilliant claim & grammatical observation.
    Weren't you the one who said that English wasn't a Germanic language at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idriz View Post
    Weren't you the one who said that English wasn't a Germanic language at all?
    Scandinavian isn't a Germanic language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    Scandinavian isn't a Germanic language.
    Scandinavian isn't a language.
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    A Scandinavian language with articles instead of that definite suffix? Well, English being the mongrel language it is just is 'easy' to learn for every Germanic speaker and even Romance speaker I guess.
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    English is a language with features from 3 sources.

    It isn't Romance, it isn't North Germanic and it isn't entirely West Germanic.

    But West Germanic forms the real basis of the English language and anyone who claims otherwise is likely just seeking publicity or doesn't know what they are talking about.

    This guy probably knows what he is talking about...

    Edit: 3 main sources. Obviously there is Greek influence and other stuff too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozrage View Post
    Scandinavian isn't a language.
    Yes it is a language group, not one specific language. English is an offspring of the Scandinavian language group.

    There are Scandinavian languages, Germanic languages, Slavic languages, and then Romance languages. Greek and English are European anomalies.
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    The Swedish language also has definite and indefinite articles.

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    actually something like 20% of english words are derived from french one.

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