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Thread: West Slavic admixture in Ukraine (Mielnik-Sikorska et al. 2012)1787 days old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auduid View Post
    It would help if you were to explain yourself. Thanks in advance!
    For the really die-hard ydna enthusiasts- autosomal+ydna= Western Slav. So you may plot with Western Slav's, but were your ancestor's part of the beginning Western Slav movement? For example some who plot with Poles on a PCA do not have signature R1a-M458 line[like myself for example[R1b]]. BTW same holds true for Germans/Celtic etc....
    Here is a good way to illustrate what I mean. Using a diagram ydna R1a you can see, there are many branches of R1a, only some of these[in theory--M458,] were involved in the specific ethnogenesis of western Slavs. Until more remains are found and tested in places like Eastern Europe- Corded Ware\ Yamnaya burials, we can only give a rough guesstimate at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    For the really die-hard ydna enthusiasts- autosomal+ydna= Western Slav. So you may plot with Western Slav's, but were your ancestor's part of the beginning Western Slav movement? For example some who plot with Poles on a PCA do not have signature R1a-M458 line[like myself for example[R1b]]. BTW same holds true for Germans/Celtic etc....
    Here is a good way to illustrate what I mean. Using a diagram ydna R1a you can see, there are many branches of R1a, only some of these[in theory--M458,] were involved in the specific ethnogenesis of western Slavs. Until more remains are found and tested in places like Eastern Europe- Corded Ware\ Yamnaya burials, we can only give a rough guesstimate at best.
    https://postimg.org/image/vh8euthl9/
    You should know that there's a good reason why overlap exists, since Slavic Bohemians and Germanic Bavarians were once one Celtic Boii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auduid View Post
    You should know that there's a good reason why overlap exists, since Slavic Bohemians and Germanic Bavarians were once one Celtic Boii.
    Good point. Maybe we will get some resolution with the R1b-Z2103+L51 Bell Beaker sample.
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    I would hazard the guess that those three different ethnic versions of the same folk are part and parcel of the La Tene/Hallstatt culture. This is probably where Runes were formed.

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