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    East Lithuanian sub-dialect from north-western Belarus.





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    Something for fun. Different ways of saying potato in Latvian. Does any European language have more names for potato?





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    Quote Originally Posted by parastais View Post
    Yeah, I checked that page - eight categories for consonants and one category for vowels (count of vowels).
    Which means that variance in consonants is 8 times more important for phonetics than variance in vowels (actually only variance in vowels count is considered) in this research.
    Instead they could have made more categories for vowels. And if they took into account dipthongs and long vowels Latvian would be closest to Lithuanian, I can bet on that
    It's because consonants carry the meaning of the word, while vowels give a certain sound to the same word. If you take the same word and try to read it without vowels and then consonants, you'll get it right away.
    Agreed on the vowels. Diphtongs and all the vowels, short and long should be considered. For example, the sound "o". It has three different pronounciations in Latvian. The diphtong 'uo', short 'o' and long 'oo'. Also let's take into account that native Russian speakers simply can't pronounce any of the Latvian long vowels and diphtongs. What does that say about the similarity of the two languages, I wonder. The same can be said about our soft consonants - 'ķ', 'ģ', etc.
    There are different people who 'research' different aspects of langauges, concentrating on one or another subject which is more favourable to them. I remember a non Latvian who was very sure that all the long vowels, are not in fact long vowels (ā, ē, ī, oo, ū) , but simply how stress is depicted in the written language, which ofc is completely wrong, as stress in Latvian falls on the first syllable, with an exception of very few examples.

    There are also sounds in modern Latvian that were brought in by the Russian language, such, as the replacement of soft L to hard L and the lack of soft Ŕ. So I wonder how exactly this research was done. Based on the language we speak now or some theories...n
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    I believe the closest to Russian is Latvian? Lithuanian and Estonian are a way too far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt1279 View Post
    I believe the closest to Russian is Latvian? Lithuanian and Estonian are a way too far...
    Lithuanian and Estonian are two different language families. Very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeon View Post
    I think Lithuanian, because it is closer to the original Balto-Slavic. But I am no expert.
    Shouldn't that make Lithuanian least similar to Russian then? Given how much Russian and other Slavic languages have diverged from Baltic languages, and Lithuanian being one of the most conservative Indo-European languages in general. I'm no expert either
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    Shouldn't that make Lithuanian least similar to Russian then? Given how much Russian and other Slavic languages have diverged from Baltic languages, and Lithuanian being one of the most conservative Indo-European languages in general. I'm no expert either
    Russian is one of the most conservative Indo-European languages too and in some respects more conservative than Lithuanian, which have lost some PIE features like neuter gender or distinction between singular and plural in third person present tense verbs. But Latvian has lost much more. Actually, the extinct Prussian was the closest to Slavic of all Baltic languages.

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