User Tag List

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 39

Thread: Haplogroup E1a1441 days old

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Race Scientist Gabi's Avatar
    Last Online
    2016-03-11 @ 04:41
    Join Date
    2013-12-01
    Posts
    163
    Location
    Southwest Texas
    Gender
    Age
    25
    Y-DNA
    E1a
    mtDNA
    A2
    Race
    Triracial
    Metaethnos
    Tejano
    Ethnicity
    Mixed/Latino
    GEDmatch
    M115003
    United States Mexico Cuba Spain Italy Gay pride

    Default Haplogroup E1a

    Does anyone here share this haplogroup on their paternal line? Are there any?

    Could someone also explain the difference between this and E1b1a? I would appreciate it.
    North_Atlantic 15.72
    Baltic 4.74
    West_Med 17.46
    West_Asian 2.02
    East_Med 7.74
    Red_Sea 0.81
    South_Asian 0.51
    East_Asian 1.34
    Siberian 2.21
    Amerindian 42.39
    Northeast_African 1.01
    Sub-Saharan 4.02

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Gabi For This Useful Post:

    Power77 (2017-07-25)

  3. # ADS
    Advertisement bot
    Join Date
    2013-03-24
    Location
    ForumBiodiversity.com
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    All threads
       
     

  4. #2
    Established Member
    Evolutionary Biologist Berber_Warrior's Avatar
    Last Online
    2016-06-18 @ 02:59
    Join Date
    2014-02-04
    Posts
    248
    Location
    Genk
    Gender
    Race
    Caucasoid
    Metaethnos
    Moor
    Ethnicity
    Moroccan
    Phenotype
    Berberid + Atlanto-med
    Morocco Amazigh Amazigh Morocco

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabi View Post
    Does anyone here share this haplogroup on their paternal line? Are there any?

    Could someone also explain the difference between this and E1b1a? I would appreciate it.
    E1a is a rare North african haplogroup, E1a is found in Moroccans, his subclade E1a1a3 is found in Mali (35-45% of Malians have it), this haplogroup was found among 3,33% of guanches, pre-colonial people of canarian islands, while e1b1a not.
    E1b1a is the major haplogroup among Sub saharans.

  5. #3
    Established Member
    Junior Member Afura's Avatar
    Last Online
    2017-11-07 @ 21:33
    Join Date
    2010-03-18
    Posts
    273
    Location
    New England, CT, USA
    Gender
    Age
    43
    Y-DNA
    E1b1a1 - E-M58
    mtDNA
    L2c
    Metaethnos
    Hue-man
    Ethnicity
    "Black"
    GEDmatch
    A112928
    United States Nigeria Cameroon Mali France African Union(OAS)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Berber_Warrior View Post
    E1a is a rare North african haplogroup, E1a is found in Moroccans, his subclade E1a1a3 is found in Mali (35-45% of Malians have it), this haplogroup was found among 3,33% of guanches, pre-colonial people of canarian islands, while e1b1a not.
    E1b1a is the major haplogroup among Sub saharans.
    It's still an African haplogroup. Why does it matter which part of the continent it comes from? Does it make it less "African" being from Morocco? Mali? Jeez!
    Quote Originally Posted by Haile Selassie
    “We should accept diversity in culture and tradition and coexist peacefully...”
    Quote Originally Posted by Neely Fuller, Jr.
    "If you don't understand "White" Supremacy/Racism, everything that you do understand will only confuse you."
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Lee
    "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question, than a fool can learn from a wise answer."

  6. #4
    Established Member
    Molecular Biologist
    Last Online
    Today @ 03:06
    Join Date
    2011-03-06
    Posts
    6,753
    Location
    Everywhere
    Gender
    Age
    32
    Y-DNA
    E1b1b1b2a
    mtDNA
    L3e1e
    Metaethnos
    Nuevo Mundo
    Ethnicity
    Isleño D Puertorican
    Politics
    Liberal central left
    Religion
    Agnostic
    Puerto Rico Spain United States Outlying Islands Amazigh Palestine Hispanidad

    Default

    It is a relevant distinction, clearly.

  7. #5
    Established Member
    Biological Anthropologist
    Last Online
    @
    Join Date
    2010-07-29
    Posts
    6,347
    Gender
    Y-DNA
    E1b1a1a1g1, Q1a3a1
    mtDNA
    L2b2, L3e2b
    Race
    Triracial
    Metaethnos
    Afro-Descendant
    Phenotype
    Chulo Man
    Politics
    Legalize It
    Religion
    Believe What You Want
    Belize CARICOM United States Federal Republic of Central America Jamaica Belize

    Default

    Y-DNA E1a is most certainly and primarily a Sub-Saharan West African haplogroup that peaks in Mali, Senegambia and northern Cameroon among Atlantic-Congo speakers (Dogon, Wolof, Fulani and Fulani-like peoples). It likely reached northern Africa (and subsequently Eurasia) thousands of years ago via Fulani-like peoples during the Green Sahara.

    The frequency of Y-DNA E1a in West Africa was likely higher prior to Y-DNA E1b1a1.
    MUSIC
    Tracks on Soundcloud

    HarappaWorld
    W-African 72.82
    Pygmy 2.69
    San 1.24
    E-African 0.75

    NE-Euro 6.63
    Mediterranean 3.99
    Baloch 1.8

    American 9.99
    Papuan 0.08

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to pgbk87 For This Useful Post:

    Gabi (2014-03-27), Power77 (2017-07-25)

  9. #6
    Established Member
    Evolutionary Biologist Berber_Warrior's Avatar
    Last Online
    2016-06-18 @ 02:59
    Join Date
    2014-02-04
    Posts
    248
    Location
    Genk
    Gender
    Race
    Caucasoid
    Metaethnos
    Moor
    Ethnicity
    Moroccan
    Phenotype
    Berberid + Atlanto-med
    Morocco Amazigh Amazigh Morocco

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Afura View Post
    It's still an African haplogroup. Why does it matter which part of the continent it comes from? Does it make it less "African" being from Morocco? Mali? Jeez!
    North africans are genetically differnet than Subsaharans, but we are africans. E1b1b is not the same as E1b1a


    Quote Originally Posted by pgbk87 View Post
    Y-DNA E1a is most certainly and primarily a Sub-Saharan West African haplogroup that peaks in Mali, Senegambia and northern Cameroon among Atlantic-Congo speakers (Dogon, Wolof, Fulani and Fulani-like peoples). It likely reached northern Africa (and subsequently Eurasia) thousands of years ago via Fulani-like peoples during the Green Sahara.

    The frequency of Y-DNA E1a in West Africa was likely higher prior to Y-DNA E1b1a1.
    What about the contrary ??
    "E1a* basal haplogroup does not exist in SSA just only in northwest africa"

  10. #7
    Established Member
    Biological Anthropologist
    Last Online
    @
    Join Date
    2010-07-29
    Posts
    6,347
    Gender
    Y-DNA
    E1b1a1a1g1, Q1a3a1
    mtDNA
    L2b2, L3e2b
    Race
    Triracial
    Metaethnos
    Afro-Descendant
    Phenotype
    Chulo Man
    Politics
    Legalize It
    Religion
    Believe What You Want
    Belize CARICOM United States Federal Republic of Central America Jamaica Belize

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Berber_Warrior View Post
    What about the contrary ??
    The contrary is far less likely. Y-DNA E, E1b+ and E2 all originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. E1a peaks in Sub-Saharan Africans as well, and is present in other peoples who are at least partially, Sub-Saharan African (ie. North Africans).

    How would you counter that argument?
    MUSIC
    Tracks on Soundcloud

    HarappaWorld
    W-African 72.82
    Pygmy 2.69
    San 1.24
    E-African 0.75

    NE-Euro 6.63
    Mediterranean 3.99
    Baloch 1.8

    American 9.99
    Papuan 0.08

  11. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to pgbk87 For This Useful Post:

    Iron Hand (2014-02-26), Power77 (2017-07-25)

  12. #8
    Established Member
    Evolutionary Biologist Berber_Warrior's Avatar
    Last Online
    2016-06-18 @ 02:59
    Join Date
    2014-02-04
    Posts
    248
    Location
    Genk
    Gender
    Race
    Caucasoid
    Metaethnos
    Moor
    Ethnicity
    Moroccan
    Phenotype
    Berberid + Atlanto-med
    Morocco Amazigh Amazigh Morocco

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pgbk87 View Post
    The contrary is far less likely. Y-DNA E, E1b+ and E2 all originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. E1a peaks in Sub-Saharan Africans as well, and is present in other peoples who are at least partially, Sub-Saharan African (ie. North Africans).

    How would you counter that argument?
    Y-dna E is originated in East Africa, E1a as basal Haplogroup is found only in Northwest Africa, and it's not found among SSA, the subclades found in West Africa is E1a1a3 the major among Malians, and Senegambians, and it's found only among hartanis in Northafrica. E2 and E1b1a are specific to SSA people . By SSA, I mean all african except northern and horners.

  13. #9
    Established Member
    Molecular Biologist
    Last Online
    Today @ 03:06
    Join Date
    2011-03-06
    Posts
    6,753
    Location
    Everywhere
    Gender
    Age
    32
    Y-DNA
    E1b1b1b2a
    mtDNA
    L3e1e
    Metaethnos
    Nuevo Mundo
    Ethnicity
    Isleño D Puertorican
    Politics
    Liberal central left
    Religion
    Agnostic
    Puerto Rico Spain United States Outlying Islands Amazigh Palestine Hispanidad

    Default

    I don't know about the origins per se but at least in my haplogroup it is not common at all for it to be present in SSA, it is common in North Africans and Southern Europeans. There was a much interesting debate concerning my maternal haplo in anthroscape according to which there was a recent study which yielded a complete different story about the origin, and it is caucasoid in that version contrary to other studies. That debate lasted for a long time. It is better to talk about where it is more present even more so when the physical traits of possible groups which inhabit a region of origin do not look like the majority of the ascendants of the individual in question even more when the ones who do exhibit a higher frequency for the haplogroup. IMHO.

  14. #10
    Established Member
    Junior Member But Cool
    Last Online
    2017-11-18 @ 03:04
    Join Date
    2012-05-31
    Posts
    2,153
    Location
    Bedford England
    Gender
    Age
    31
    Y-DNA
    E-U174
    mtDNA
    U6a3
    Race
    Sub-Saharan African
    Metaethnos
    Akan/Mande/Igbo
    Ethnicity
    Jamaican
    Phenotype
    Goldwindid Sudanid
    Politics
    Monarchy over Republic
    Religion
    Nunya
    England Jamaica Skull and crossbones

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dbbrainer View Post
    I don't know about the origins per se but at least in my haplogroup it is not common at all for it to be present in SSA, it is common in North Africans and Southern Europeans. There was a much interesting debate concerning my maternal haplo in anthroscape according to which there was a recent study which yielded a complete different story about the origin, and it is caucasoid in that version contrary to other studies. That debate lasted for a long time. It is better to talk about where it is more present even more so when the physical traits of possible groups which inhabit a region of origin do not look like the majority of the ascendants of the individual in question even more when the ones who do exhibit a higher frequency for the haplogroup. IMHO.
    The thing is though Y-DNA Haplogroup E1a*/E-M33 is still mainly found amongst West Africans and rarely found amongst North Africans. North Africa clearly received E1a*/E-M33 from West Africa. Oh and btw anthroscape is even worse than this website when it comes to retarded comments.
    Last edited by Iron Hand; 2014-02-26 at 00:15.

  15. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Iron Hand For This Useful Post:

    Afura (2014-02-26), pgbk87 (2014-02-26), Power77 (2017-07-25)

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Haplogroup IJ
    By JAX in forum y-DNA Haplogroups
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 2012-06-18, 00:47
  2. J Haplogroup
    By Lilith in forum mtDNA Haplogroups
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 2012-05-19, 18:46
  3. Y-DNA Haplogroup S
    By jibarodepr in forum y-DNA Haplogroups
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 2011-02-08, 11:11

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
<