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    Finally I have my computer desk set up and I am able to use my computer, therefore work on the spreadsheets that I said I would.

    This is where majority of the Mexican population lives
    North/Western-Central Mexico is more on the 60% euro range
    Central Mexico is in the balance mestizo range
    and Southern Mexico is more on the 60% Amerindian range



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    Remaining nationalities that are not showing in the second pie chart
    Flamencos 0.6%
    Austrianos 0.5%
    Navarros 0.4%
    Frances 0.4%
    Canarios 0.2%
    Alemanes 0.2%






    Other 1.0%
    Dutch/Flemish 0.6%

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    As I suspected then, most white people since colonial times were Mexican/New Spain born Criollos, with the majority of foreign born being Andalusian or Extremaduran.
    "Living or dying, it's not a big deal. What we should be concerned about is whether or not we're allowed to crawl to our graves."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_garcia49 View Post
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    As I suspected then, most white people since colonial times were Mexican/New Spain born Criollos, with the majority of foreign born being Andalusian or Extremaduran.
    I find it interesting that the Italian and Portuguese made a significant number during the colonization of Mexico. Mexico seemed very diverse back in those days, now a days since we mixed heavily, we forgot about those who contributed into our culture, genetics and traditions.

    I was reading about the racism Spanish people faced in certain parts of Mexico
    "After of the independence of Mexico, a racism emerged against Spanish people in this new nation; in August 1827 to 1834, by decree issued during the government of Lorenzo de Zavala, that expulsed many Spaniards from State of Mexico and killed Spanish families. The state government, influenced by English masons or Yorkers, based on the Plan of Iguala and Treaty of Córdoba, stripped Spaniards of their haciendas, farms, ranches and properties in this state, leading many widows and orphans fled to other Mexican states."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celph Titled View Post
    I find it interesting that the Italian and Portuguese made a significant number during the colonization of Mexico. Mexico seemed very diverse back in those days, now a days since we mixed heavily, we forgot about those who contributed into our culture, genetics and traditions.

    I was reading about the racism Spanish people faced in certain parts of Mexico
    "After of the independence of Mexico, a racism emerged against Spanish people in this new nation; in August 1827 to 1834, by decree issued during the government of Lorenzo de Zavala, that expulsed many Spaniards from State of Mexico and killed Spanish families. The state government, influenced by English masons or Yorkers, based on the Plan of Iguala and Treaty of Córdoba, stripped Spaniards of their haciendas, farms, ranches and properties in this state, leading many widows and orphans fled to other Mexican states."
    Yeah, I can trace a couple of the first settlers in my tree as Portuguese, though by the next generation, they were already Spaniard/Portuguese and eventually mestizo.

    Also have some Lomeli's with roots in Jalisco, but this lineage seems more likely to be indigenous who were baptized with that surname rather than actually related to the Italian settler.

    I've heard stories about my adoptive maternal grandmother's family having their properties burned down during 1800's Jalisco, cause they were Criollo/Spaniards with wealth. Ironically, if it wasn't for that, her family wouldn't have moved to the hacienda where my grandmother met my grandfather who came from a working class indigenous family.
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    After spending lots of time inspecting family trees, it looks like the majority of ancestors in my DNA matches' trees are within a few municipios in Western Jalisco. I think it's fascinating how most of my ancestry comes from the Western part of the state, quite different from most other Jalisco descendants I know who's roots are usually Los Altos or Guadalajara.

    Close up of municipios

    (Juchitlan, Tecolotlan, Ejutla, Tenamaxtlan, Union de Tula)


    (Just Ayutla and Cuatla)


    (Just Autlan de Navarro)


    Zoomed out photo of the state

    "Living or dying, it's not a big deal. What we should be concerned about is whether or not we're allowed to crawl to our graves."

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