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    Quote Originally Posted by Celph Titled View Post
    i got the picture of that Mexican girl from Acapulco with 27% SSA


    How common is the Filipino in southern Mexicans? She fits her results, do you have more photos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyva View Post
    How common is the Filipino in southern Mexicans? She fits her results, do you have more photos?
    Nope, I dont want to be a creep and ask her for pictures LOL

    very common in Guerrero (almost all of them have scored Southeast Asian, not necessarily filipino)
    I have also notice it on certain parts of Western Mexico, especially those from the coastal regions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celph Titled View Post
    I have been working on my spreadsheet
    I have divided everything up by state, regions and sub-regions
    it is the most detailed spreadsheet for Mexico thus far, I have also included haplogroups


    Right now, I have these state averages but I want to have at least 100 samples for each state
    The remaining percentages goes to the unassigned category

    Michoacan
    Sample size: 52

    Caucasian - 54.20%
    Amerindian - 34.56%
    Black African - 5.50%
    East/Southeast Asian - 0.46%
    South Asian - 0.7%



    Jalisco
    Sample size: 16

    Caucasian - 68.31%
    Amerindian - 25.16%
    Black African - 2.38%
    East/Southeast Asian - 0.06%
    South Asian - 0.1%



    Zacatecas
    Sample size: 19

    Caucasian - 63.36%
    Amerindian - 29.94%
    Black African - 1.75%
    East/Southeast Asian - 0.09%
    South Asian - 0.06%



    Guerrero
    Sample size: 17

    Caucasian - 31.95%
    Amerindian - 46.80%
    Black African - 9.42%
    East/Southeast Asian - 6.47%
    South Asian - 0.24%



    The highest SSA for Guerrero was 27.2% and she was from Acapulco including all 4 of her grandparents, but all samples from Guerrero fall in between 7-27% SSA
    And the highest Southeast Asian was 16% but most falls in between 2-16% SEA

    This is what she scored
    Caucasian 15.2%
    Amerindian 44.4%
    Sub-Saharan SSA 27.2
    East/Southeast Asia 7.8%
    South Asian 0.4%


    Her African breakdown was
    Senegambian & Guinean 8.7%
    Congolese 4.0%
    Ghanaian, Liberian & Sierra Leonean 0.8%
    South East African 0.6%
    African Hunter-Gatherer 0.4%
    Broadly West African 5.9%
    Broadly Congolese & Southern East Africa 2.6%
    Broadly Sub-Saharan African 4.2%



    Guerrero samples have been the most interesting to me, very unique results for Latin Americans, and they have a unique admixture not found anywhere else in the Americas
    What about Mexico City?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persian_Otomi View Post
    What about Mexico City?
    Michoacan - Majority of the samples came from the Central and Southern part of the state. Both regions are not the most populated regions and also not the most European. Central Michoacan is where majority of the indigenous population lives, while Southern Michoacan, it tends to have a significant minority that display SSA features and from the DNA samples I gathered, many of them were over 7% SSA and a lot of them were scoring up to 11%. Northern Michoacan is the most populated and also the most European, and from the DNA results, they were majority scoring over 60% European, the lowest Amerindian was only 3% I believe.


    Jalisco - A lot of the samples for Jalisco were coming from Los Altos, that is their most European region but also their least populated region. Majority of them were scoring between 75%-95% European but most were in the 80% Euro range. Once I started to gather from their most populated area which is Southern Jalisco, the people were scoring between 47-65% European which is close to the reality of that region.


    Zacatecas - Most (99%) of their samples were coming from Eastern and Southern Zacatecas. The most populated area is Eastern and majority of the samples from there were coming out 40-70% European. While Southern Zacatecas being one of the least, majority of them were 60-90% European, majority of them falling in the 70% Euro range.


    Guerrero - Most of the samples were coming from various regions of that state, so it is really hard to know more about that state since the sample size is very small but once I continue to update it, I will point out the differences from each region.


    Tamaulipas & Nuevo Leon - I will just talk about both states. Most of the samples in the case of Tamaulipas are coming from the northern part. While most samples from Nuevo Leon are coming from Monterrey. These people are very inbred that they are all related to each other and these two states come from the same settlers, the same European and the same Jewish settlers. Not to mention that majority of them are over 70% European and I honestly do not want to make them look very European because the reality of it is very different from what you would see if you go to those states but at the same time, I am not finding any pred Amerindians from those two states either and balance mestizos are such a small minority in their relative match list. I don't know, I guess I will continue to add them to the spreadsheet and from there see what the average comes out to be.


    The rest of the states, I am working on, with Veracruz its easier because I have a good handful of matches with some of them so I will probably have around 30 samples including one who is Native American and I believe 97% Amerindian.



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    @Persian_Otomi you should pass me Chilango results so I can add them

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    I will try to post them here but my phone freezes when I browser the relative list. I don't have a lot of Mexico City matches that have all 4 grandparents born there. Majority are either only half or only with 1 grandparent born in Mexico City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persian_Otomi View Post
    I will try to post them here but my phone freezes when I browser the relative list. I don't have a lot of Mexico City matches that have all 4 grandparents born there. Majority are either only half or only with 1 grandparent born in Mexico City.
    pass me your login info and I can grab them

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    It's a small update, but looks like 23andme decided to sort the specific regions listed under more broad ones.

    This specific example is of African getting sorted into West African and Congolese/Southeast African.

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    @a_garcia49 you are not an Angolan king like me so let it go


    Anyways, I have been working on a number of spreadsheets
    this time I am working on the African ancestry of Mexicans (and other Latin Americans like those from Central America and Dominican Republic)

    I scaled the African part to 100%, I am also doing it by region because I want to know if there are any differences between Mexican regions and the type of Africans that were taken there

    So far I have Southern Mexico (I still need to add 5 more), next I will be working on the other regions

    For Southern Mexico

    51.3% West African (Almost exclusively Senegambian & Guinean)
    28.8% Central & Southeastern African
    1.5% Northeastern African
    19.4% Broadly African

    The Broadly African percentages are so high, looking at the spreadsheet FelipeFont did on the updated African results, the only ones who score such a high Broadly African are Southeastern Africans and also some Central Africans, which proves that the Broadly African should be added to the Central & Southeast African category

    The Northeastern African is obviously coming from West Africans, maybe Fulanis? I am not sure but that is who I see scoring some

    So lets do the real calculation here

    52.8% West African (Including Northeastern African)
    48.2% Central & Southeastern African (Including Broadly African)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Celph Titled View Post
    @a_garcia49 you are not an Angolan king like me so let it go


    Anyways, I have been working on a number of spreadsheets
    this time I am working on the African ancestry of Mexicans (and other Latin Americans like those from Central America and Dominican Republic)

    I scaled the African part to 100%, I am also doing it by region because I want to know if there are any differences between Mexican regions and the type of Africans that were taken there

    So far I have Southern Mexico (I still need to add 5 more), next I will be working on the other regions

    For Southern Mexico

    51.3% West African (Almost exclusively Senegambian & Guinean)
    28.8% Central & Southeastern African
    1.5% Northeastern African
    19.4% Broadly African

    The Broadly African percentages are so high, looking at the spreadsheet FelipeFont did on the updated African results, the only ones who score such a high Broadly African are Southeastern Africans and also some Central Africans, which proves that the Broadly African should be added to the Central & Southeast African category

    The Northeastern African is obviously coming from West Africans, maybe Fulanis? I am not sure but that is who I see scoring some

    So lets do the real calculation here

    52.8% West African (Including Northeastern African)
    48.2% Central & Southeastern African (Including Broadly African)

    Lol alright dude, interesting chart though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_garcia49 View Post
    Lol alright dude, interesting chart though.
    I am working on Western-Central Mexico next
    then Northern Mexico

    then for Central Mexico


    I am also going to work on the European part as well
    I already have many samples of Spaniards from different regions

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