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    Default French Revolution - Hypothetical question

    Hypothetically speaking if you were alive during the French revolution, who would you side with and why? I view it has having 2 separate main factions, the Royalists/Counter-Revolutionaries and the Revolutionaries. Personally, I think I would side with the Royalists after having read Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France I believe the revolution brought with it backwards ideas, corruption and the unneeded loss of thousands of lives. I am curious to hear what supporters of the French revolution have to say.
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    Like many reform movements, they start out with good intentions, or - regarding many - with the pretense of good intentions, but those who lead these movements are often just as much of a megalomaniac, if not more so, than those they replaced. The royalists kept the peasants down, saying "let them eat cake," but within a short period of time the revolutionaries were more repressive and reviled. As most of you know, this created the perfect environment for Napoleon to step in, with his talk of glory and an empire.

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    I'd side with neither and move to Switzerland, Austria or a German state.

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    I would have joined the fight at Vendée

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vendée

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    Generally I side with monarchy over democracy, but when the king is being an insufferable dick, you cut off his head and find a new one.

    What's odd is how democratic politicians are invariably insufferable dicks, despite being chosen, while royals for the most part are usually pretty awesome, despite being born into the role.

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    Any other opinions?
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    Both my Iberian and African lineages have fought for the princes since time immemorial, so Royalism it is. Besides, the French Revolution, just like it's American older sister, would show its hypocrisy as far as the slavery question was concerned. As Adam Smith would point out, slavery have more chances of thriving under a republic than under a monarch to whom everyone has to answer to, be them high or low.

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    What is my class, occupation and regional origin in this hypothetical scenario? It seems like a pointless question to ask 21st-century people, as the answer in the actual French Revolution would have been mostly dependent on the aforementioned variables. The nobility, the clergy and the peasantry were generally opposed to the revolution, while the bourgeoisie and the urban underclasses were mostly in favor.

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    I'd side with none, as both the Royalists and Revolutionaries were backwards and anti-intellectual. Instead, I'd concoct my own revolutionary intellectual counter-movement... why be a follower by the sidelines when you can be the leader?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post
    I'd side with none, as both the Royalists and Revolutionaries were backwards and anti-intellectual. Instead, I'd concoct my own revolutionary intellectual counter-movement... why be a follower by the sidelines when you can be the leader?
    Something like this, then, but more EliasAlucardish (more hemp, Open Source etc.):

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/National_socialism



    Personally, assuming that I'd have been born and raised in France (or Europe in general) during the 1700's, I can see myself supporting the revolutionaries (I used to be some sort of pseudo-syndicalist at roughly age 16). Of course, as Bittereinder pointed out, I would've acted differently depending on my conditions of life.

    With modern knowledge, though, I would probably also attempt to create my own kind of revolution against both the proto-bolsheviks and the decadent, globalist drug dealer aristocracy, saving France from becoming the negrized USSR that I consider it to be in modern times, and managing to create the perfect combination of traditional and radical ideas, more than a hundred years before Kjellén, Hitler et al. actually created it, though those 100+ years of course made an impact on their ideas, so my "national revolution" and its ideology would probably have had to be somewhat different from national socialism.
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